Well done Ben Mansford and the board

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On getting the deal done for the young Arsenal lad.
only fair he gets Ben gets credit when things go right as the amount of abuse he gets especially on twitter is pathetic.
plenty of championship clubs will be looking at Blackpool with envy wondering what we’ve got that they haven’t.
well, the answer to the is that we have a forward thinking proactive board of directors (and manager) that are doing their best for the club 👍🏻🧡
 
Blackpools finest said:
On getting the deal done for the young Arsenal lad.
only fair he gets Ben gets credit when things go right as the amount of abuse he gets especially on twitter is pathetic.
plenty of championship clubs will be looking at Blackpool with envy wondering what we’ve got that they haven’t.
well, the answer to the is that we have a forward thinking proactive board of directors (and manager) that are doing their best for the club 👍🏻🧡
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Well said lad. As you know, Most of the people giving abuse on Twitter Facebook etc, are the same people who have to ask what's the nearest train station to Stoke, from a list of four Stokes that come up on Trainline, and don't get me started on asking which stand is the away end at Burnley . A large percentage of our fan base can't dress themselves without googling it first.

It's moan moan moan on a daily basis. Imagine if they had to put up with what we had to, and go for a shit in the old airlocked Scratching Shed bogs back in the day for example.
 
Whilst some "signings" fail to come fruition Its unfair to blame the board , There's a multitude of reasons why some transfers dont happen . As with Brannigan most likely just a ploy by his agent to negotiate a better deal to stay put .
 
Can't wait to Charlie Patino in Tangerine.
Let's give him a big welcome when he plays the next home game.
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
Whilst some "signings" fail to come fruition Its unfair to blame the board , There's a multitude of reasons why some transfers dont happen . As with Brannigan most likely just a ploy by his agent to negotiate a better deal to stay put .
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You're right but how many times did he and his agent make a mug of us.
 
I'm feeling the love today after reading this thread so I've just gone after the postman up the street to thank him for doing the basics of the job that he's paid to do, having delivered my letters.

Appleton has publicly told the board he wants them to be more aggressive on signings. Which is code for get your arse in gear if you expect me to try and do this job properly.

If you can't buy in because you keep failing at it and you're dealing with previous decisions made on recruitment and juggling the numbers where they still need paying, then loans are the easy wins. Particularly where the manager has his own contacts book and the parent club has their own reasons to agree to send someone your way for their development.

Lot of hype around this Arsenal fella. If it works for all involved then brilliant but don't get too attached and expect a second year as it'll be a one and done thing.
 
A great piece of work by the club & full credit must go to MA, as the PL clubs who have loaned us players, will only trust certain managers to develop their valuable assets.
Let's hope the couple of weak points in our best 11 are soon filled with permanent signings, Josh stays & our injury list is shortened.
UTMP 🧡
 
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Well said lad. As you know, Most of the people giving abuse on Twitter Facebook etc, are the same people who have to ask what's the nearest train station to Stoke, from a list of four Stokes that come up on Trainline, and don't get me started on asking which stand is the away end at Burnley . A large percentage of our fan base can't dress themselves without googling it first.

It's moan moan moan on a daily basis. Imagine if they had to put up with what we had to, and go for a shit in the old airlocked Scratching Shed bogs back in the day for example.
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Scratching Shed Bogs.Now you’re talking!!
 
20togo said:
You're right but how many times did he and his agent make a mug of us.
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I think thats just some fans feeling like mugs tbh. We tried to sign him. We failed. We lost nothing. Oxford had to fork out more. He fucked his own employer over if anything.
 
I don’t really go on Twitter much… I struggled with the idea of limiting my comments under a fixed number of words… and it seems to be full of twats….

The club have obviously had to work harder than normal to try and improve the squad during this window and I’m very happy with the players we’ve brought in so far…

Ben Mansford has done a fantastic job from the outset and deserves plenty of credit … I don’t get why anyone would give him abuse tbh… Totally ridiculous 👎
 
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Philbfctrois said:
Yeah well done to the CEO for doing his job

Squad not finished yet though so hopefully he can continue to do his job for a bit longer
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But he was getting berated for doing a good job in many quarters.

You can’t have it both ways.
 
20togo said:
You're right but how many times did he and his agent make a mug of us.
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done purely for self gain , I don't see it as "making a mug of us" We offered what we thought would be the right amount but Oxford were determined to keep him . Just the way agents & players play clubs off against one another
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
done purely for self gain , I don't see it as "making a mug of us" We offered what we thought would be the right amount but Oxford were determined to keep him . Just the way agents & players play clubs off against one another
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Yes of course but how many times did he play us off?! Anyway, it's gone now and he's done well getting Patino in.
 
Pretty happy with most of the new faces to be fair. It’s harsh to fully blame the board for not getting signings over the line, it happens and we’re not the first club it’s happened too.

I don’t think Brannagan ever wanted to come here we just activated his release clause and he said no
 
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Made a mug of us?

Surely we just tried to sign a player we were interested to sign. I’m not really sure the player or agent’s motivation for dealing with us really matters, so long as we’re in there trying to do deals.

This is the problem when your ego gets in the way of practicality.

As I alluded to the other day, it the same as failing to ask a girl to dance out of fear she might say no or ‘take the piss out of you’…
 
Philbfctrois said:
Yeah well done to the CEO for doing his job

Squad not finished yet though so hopefully he can continue to do his job for a bit longer
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To be fair Phil I don't think its in his job description that he must sign on loan one of the best if not THE best youngster in the country.

This is an exceptional deal on paper.

He was valued at 5m last year before he'd even kicked a ball for the Gunners.
 
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poolfc said:
I'm feeling the love today after reading this thread so I've just gone after the postman up the street to thank him for doing the basics of the job that he's paid to do, having delivered my letters.

Appleton has publicly told the board he wants them to be more aggressive on signings. Which is code for get your arse in gear if you expect me to try and do this job properly.

If you can't buy in because you keep failing at it and you're dealing with previous decisions made on recruitment and juggling the numbers where they still need paying, then loans are the easy wins. Particularly where the manager has his own contacts book and the parent club has their own reasons to agree to send someone your way for their development.

Lot of hype around this Arsenal fella. If it works for all involved then brilliant but don't get too attached and expect a second year as it'll be a one and done thing.
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Some true words here but loans have done and still can make the difference for us - Joe Hart, Seamus, Charlie to name just three average ones. Can't wait to see this lad play and his signing sends a positive message to our midfield that no-one is guaranteed a shirt 👍
 
Loads of people, me included, thought loans from Prem clubs wouldn't materialise until they finalised their own plans in late August.
So to get 4 such loans in by now from high ranking clubs has to be seen as an achievement by all those involved in recruitment, including BM.

As others have said, it's unrealistic to expect every potential deal to come off, for loads of reasons.
So I've found the criticism of BM out of order. The insults especially so.
But hey, it's social media, so it seems that some folk need a target and there are bound to be OTT comments.

I have it on very good authority that SS is a hard taskmaster, as you would expect of someone who built up a very successful business.
So I'm sure that anyone on the staff who isn't pulling their weight - bearing in mind the vagaries and limited controllables of running a football club, you can't have every outcome you desire - will feel the consequences.
And having full knowledge of the facts, SS will know (better than anyone on here) who's performing their duties to the expected standard.
 
Once this was out in the open BM could not be seen to f it up. So credit for not doing. Appleton would not have been happy I think.

The reality to me is Appleton is the one who deserves the (potential) praise, because ultimately Arsenal don't give a poop about the new TG or anything else other than how can MA improve the player. I'm warming to MA.
 
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Once this was out in the open BM could not be seen to f it up. So credit for not doing. Appleton would not have been happy I think.

The reality to me is Appleton is the one who deserves the (potential) praise, because ultimately Arsenal don't give a poop about the new TG or anything else other than how can MA improve the player. I'm warming to MA.
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Yep completely down to Appleton and his standing in the game
 
fcblackpool said:
Once this was out in the open BM could not be seen to f it up. So credit for not doing. Appleton would not have been happy I think.

The reality to me is Appleton is the one who deserves the (potential) praise, because ultimately Arsenal don't give a poop about the new TG or anything else other than how can MA improve the player. I'm warming to MA.
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Then the Board and Big Ben need to be applauded for the managerial appointment and providing the support to ensure he lands these players.

We can’t use the “Book Stops” argument only when it suits.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Then the Board and Big Ben need to be applauded for the managerial appointment and providing the support to ensure he lands these players.

We can’t use the “Book Stops” argument only when it suits.
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Firstly the board and BM are not a separate entity, which probably helped and secondly it's early doors for MA and one aspect which he has shown himself to be capable is in bringing young loan players on. Let's wait and see on the all revealing win v loss equation.
 
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Firstly the board and BM are not a separate entity, which probably helped and secondly it's early doors for MA and one aspect which he has shown himself to be capable is in bringing young loan players on. Let's wait and see on the all revealing win v loss equation.
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The board comprises of a group of 3 individuals and includes BM as a member. BM also performs a role as CEO within the business… To that extent they are definitely quite separate entities.

You’re right, it is early doors for MA, but not for BM, who already has one extremely successful Manager, a promotion, successful first Championship Season, solid recruitment record, transformation of the Club and internal restructuring to his name. Not to mention the delivery of a suitable site for the new training facility, agreement with the council to support the East Stand development and a complete overhaul of the Stadium, Pitch and existing training facility… All in less than 3 years.

So whilst it is early days for MA .. Big B deserves more than his share of any credit we might associate with MA…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The board comprises of a group of 3 individuals and includes BM as a member. BM also performs a role as CEO within the business… To that extent they are definitely quite separate entities.

You’re right, it is early doors for MA, but not for BM, who already has one extremely successful Manager, a promotion, successful first Championship Season, solid recruitment record, transformation of the Club and internal restructuring to his name. Not to mention the delivery of a suitable site for the new training facility, agreement with the council to support the East Stand development and a complete overhaul of the Stadium, Pitch and existing training facility… All in less than 3 years.

So whilst it is early days for MA .. Big B deserves more than his share of any credit we might associate with MA…
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Are you saying that BM has a bigger say in manager recruitment than the rest of the board? I'd have thought it a joint decision, but stand to be corrected.
 
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Are you saying that BM has a bigger say in manager recruitment than the rest of the board? I'd have thought it a joint decision, but stand to be corrected.
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Of course he will…. Clearly SS will have the ultimate say, but BM is going to be the man who presents a list of options, offers up his expertise and influences the ultimate decision….
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Of course he will…. Clearly SS will have the ultimate say, but BM is going to be the man who presents a list of options, offers up his expertise and influences the ultimate decision….
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Surprised then Heckingbottom didn't get the job then before NC.........
 
Fair play for this one indeed.

After the Lord Mayor's show and everyone super excited about Charlie Potato (Big Spuds) watch him be absolutely gash now.
 
Philbfctrois said:
He's gonna be brilliant

Plays like a cross between Phil Foden and Bill Gilmour
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I was of course kidding. The lad looks to be a highly regarded talent. Hopefully it will be a privilege to watch him learn his trade.

Just looking at his Wiki page:

He is seen as one of Arsenal's most promising youth prospects, with head of scouting at Arsenal, Sean O’Connor, describing him as the "best player who has ever walked through the doors at Hale End", and Arsenal scout Brian Stapleton calling him "the best kid I've ever seen.".
 
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Surprised then Heckingbottom didn't get the job then before NC........
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I didn't want Heckingbottom personally, but he wouldn't have been a terrible choice by the looks of it and let's face it whether him or NC, it was certainly a more inspired choice than Simon Grayson. We've really had nothing but success since BM arrived at the Club and that doesn't strike me as mere coincidence.
 
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I didn't want Heckingbottom personally, but he wouldn't have been a terrible choice by the looks of it and let's face it whether him or NC, it was certainly a more inspired choice than Simon Grayson. We've really had nothing but success since BM arrived at the Club and that doesn't strike me as mere coincidence.
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Not sure I would have wanted him either. The point I was trying to make was that he and BM are very closely linked to the point where I thought if BM had the 'big say' PH would have been hired.

Would be nice if all board members had an equal input.
 
fcblackpool said:
Not sure I would have wanted him either. The point I was trying to make was that he and BM are very closely linked to the point where I thought if BM had the 'big say' PH would have been hired.

Would be nice if all board members had an equal input.
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I'm sure the board members do all have an input, but he's the CEO and the football man.. Can't see why it would have been PH either... Yes they had a historic relationship and yes, he was certainly worthy of an interview. The rest would have come down to how the process went.
 
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