Why do BBC, SKY and ITV apologise for ******* bad language

I said exactly the same thing the other day, they have no control over what is said so why apologise?
 
Time to go x 8 (go home) doesn't quite the same ring as fuck off. I don't personally join in this popular chant but it always makes me laugh & means we've won well, usually.
 
They could beep it out, at least most of it, or overplay some generic fan noise instead, so if they broadcast it then it is to some extent their fault.
 
Goforgoal said:
I think they, you and I are wasting our time in trying to maintain said modicum. Profanity, abuse and bad language, by both sexes, seems to be the norm nowadays. I’m beginning to think if expletives were removed from the language the majority of people would be speechless.😁
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It's time and place though isn't it? A bloke will expect to F and Jeff in the pub after work with his mates but not on a night out with his wife. Everyone should be able to know when it's OK and when it isn't.
 
As Stephen Fry says


"Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a ** lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous... or they say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life."
 
1966_and_all_that said:
It's time and place though isn't it? A bloke will expect to F and Jeff in the pub after work with his mates but not on a night out with his wife. Everyone should be able to know when it's OK and when it isn't.
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I spent most of my working life in a transport environment and boy, can those guys swear. So I’m in no way a prude. As you say there is a time and place, however these days it seems that the place is anywhere and the time is anytime in any company and as loudly as possible. Without any consideration for other people or whether or not they can hear, the attitude seems to be if you don’t like it tough.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
As Stephen Fry says


"Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a ** lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous... or they say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life."
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Take no notice of Stephen Fry, he’s as crazy as a box of frogs.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
It's time and place though isn't it? A bloke will expect to F and Jeff in the pub after work with his mates but not on a night out with his wife. Everyone should be able to know when it's OK and when it isn't.
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Different world now, women I work with swear just as much as the men. All about context and intent for me. The actual words unless directed with violent intent at an individual are just sounds. Can only speak for myself but doesn't bother me whatsoever.
 
gjr69 said:
Different world now, women I work with swear just as much as the men. All about context and intent for me. The actual words unless directed with violent intent at an individual are just sounds. Can only speak for myself but doesn't bother me whatsoever.
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The relevant part of your post is when you said ‘can only speak for myself’. Just because it doesn’t bother you doesn’t mean it doesn’t bother other people. A little consideration for others of a more sensitive nature costs nothing, but may mean a great deal.
 
Goforgoal said:
The relevant part of your post is when you said ‘can only speak for myself’. Just because it doesn’t bother you doesn’t mean it doesn’t bother other people. A little consideration for others of a more sensitive nature costs nothing, but may mean a great deal.
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I get that my 80 year old ex mother in law hated swearing but as background noise watching football she wasn't bothered.
Like I said it's a very different thing directing it at an individual compared to 5000 people singing a swear word in a football chant.
 
The word fuck is my favourite in the English language. So I'm obviously a big fan of swearing.

This apologising for language started becoming common during the games with no crowds. It seems to have persisted since fans returned.

The thing for me though is that the first time I'm aware of swearing is generally when the commentator draws attention to it. And that's with a decent sound system.

It's football. It's normal. Ignore it.
 
gjr69 said:
I get that my 80 year old ex mother in law hated swearing but as background noise watching football she wasn't bothered.
Like I said it's a very different thing directing it at an individual compared to 5000 people singing a swear word in a football chant.
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Swearing as part of a chant is perfectly acceptable, it occurs in every match at every ground and as was said earlier if you don’t like it don’t go. I am talking about, walking down the street, in shops, cafés and just about anywhere else. If you’re walking down the street with a few mates having the craich, swearing etc. fine but not so loud that everyone else can hear. As I said a little consideration costs nothing.
 
Goforgoal said:
The relevant part of your post is when you said ‘can only speak for myself’. Just because it doesn’t bother you doesn’t mean it doesn’t bother other people. A little consideration for others of a more sensitive nature costs nothing, but may mean a great deal.
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Realistically speaking though, the people it bothered are just a bit up their own arses, if we’re being honest.
 
Goforgoal said:
Swearing as part of a chant is perfectly acceptable, it occurs in every match at every ground and as was said earlier if you don’t like it don’t go. I am talking about, walking down the street, in shops, cafés and just about anywhere else. If you’re walking down the street with a few mates having the craich, swearing etc. fine but not so loud that everyone else can hear. As I said a little consideration costs nothing.
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Not going to disagree why would anybody want to knowingly upset others, but in football grounds there is no reason for commentators to apologise for the words of others.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Realistically speaking though, the people it bothered are just a bit up their own arses, if we’re being honest.
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Not necessarily, people of my generation were brought up in an era which treated others with a little respect. Just because those days are gone, and I fully embrace change, doesn’t mean that the values a lot of people have held all there lives should be abandoned. My generation will soon be gone, just wait a little longer and you can all swear yourselves into oblivion.
 
gjr69 said:
Not going to disagree why would anybody want to knowingly upset others, but in football grounds there is no reason for commentators to apologise for the words of others.
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There’s no reason for anyone to apologise for others. A very old friend of mine had a son with Tourettes Syndrome, he spent a lot of time apologising for the lads swearing until eventually gave up and took the view no need to apologise for someone who doesn’t know how to stop. Most people used to find it , daft as it sounds, a little quaint and just ignored it. Whoever is swearing on the broadcast doesn’t know it’s been broadcast so what’s to apologise for?
 
Goforgoal said:
Not necessarily, people of my generation were brought up in an era which treated others with a little respect. Just because those days are gone, and I fully embrace change, doesn’t mean that the values a lot of people have held all there lives should be abandoned. My generation will soon be gone, just wait a little longer and you can all swear yourselves into oblivion.
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The problem is that your era had no real clue what ‘respect’ really means and your value systems and morality were all arse about tit.

On the one hand you’d happily engage in racism, homophobia and gender inequality. You condoned physical abuse of children as acceptable means of enforcing ‘good behaviour’ etc…

Yet you get all upset if someone swears or puts their elbows on the dinner table.

You couldn’t make that shit up 😂
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
As Stephen Fry says


"Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a ** lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous... or they say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life."
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He’s a posh ** though……A ** posh ** at that….the **!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The problem is that your era had no real clue what ‘respect’ really means and your value systems and morality were all arse about tit.

On the one hand you’d happily engage in racism, homophobia and gender inequality. You condoned physical abuse of children as acceptable means of enforcing ‘good behaviour’ etc…

Yet you get all upset if someone swears or puts their elbows on the dinner table.

You couldn’t make that shit up 😂
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He’s talking about “the good old days”
 
Every now and then I find myself swearing at Bloomfield Rd, usually at the officials, then glance round guiltily checking there are no kids in close vicinity.

However, as I used to tell the kids when they came to games, what you hear there you don't repeat to family members.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The problem is that your era had no real clue what ‘respect’ really means and your value systems and morality were all arse about tit.

On the one hand you’d happily engage in racism, homophobia and gender inequality. You condoned physical abuse of children as acceptable means of enforcing ‘good behaviour’ etc…

Yet you get all upset if someone swears or puts their elbows on the dinner table.

You couldn’t make that shit up 😂
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And impose the death penalty for littering.
 
Goforgoal said:
Not necessarily, people of my generation were brought up in an era which treated others with a little respect. Just because those days are gone, and I fully embrace change, doesn’t mean that the values a lot of people have held all there lives should be abandoned. My generation will soon be gone, just wait a little longer and you can all swear yourselves into oblivion.
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To be honest I know a lot of people from what I assume is your generation that say a lot of stuff that really isn't acceptable to many, sometimes they even throw a few expletives in aswell. Better to speak for yourself and not those born over a 20 year timespan, too many of them you wouldn't want to align yourself with!!
 
My Dad never swore, except at the football, the most mild mannered gent you could hope to meet unless you were a referee.

My mum swore like a trooper mind.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The problem is that your era had no real clue what ‘respect’ really means and your value systems and morality were all arse about tit.

On the one hand you’d happily engage in racism, homophobia and gender inequality. You condoned physical abuse of children as acceptable means of enforcing ‘good behaviour’ etc…

Yet you get all upset if someone swears or puts their elbows on the dinner table.

You couldn’t make that shit up 😂
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You’re tarring a whole generation with a brush that wasn’t of their making. Homosexuality was against the law until the late sixties, we didn’t make those laws, there were homophobes then just as there are now, the same applies to the other two. Regarding, so called, physical abuse of children. The majority of children, in those days, weren’t physically punished in any way , I myself was caned once in my whole childhood. The thing that maintained discipline was knowing the threat was there. That’s why we grew up respecting others and not the disobedient, self centred beings we have today.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
He’s talking about “the good old days”
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I wondered when some clown would bring out that old chestnut. They were certainly not the good old days and I never said they were, we had a hard time of it and I wouldn’t wish them back. To repeat,yet again, I’m talking about respect for other people who don’t want to listen to constant effing and jeffing for no particular reason. Like anything else that’s overused it tends to lose it’s efficacy.
 
Goforgoal said:
I wondered when some clown would bring out that old chestnut. They were certainly not the good old days and I never said they were, we had a hard time of it and I wouldn’t wish them back. To repeat,yet again, I’m talking about respect for other people who don’t want to listen to constant effing and jeffing for no particular reason. Like anything else that’s overused it tends to lose it’s efficacy.
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Bad language?…..you’ve just called me a Clown?
 
gjr69 said:
To be honest I know a lot of people from what I assume is your generation that say a lot of stuff that really isn't acceptable to many, sometimes they even throw a few expletives in aswell. Better to speak for yourself and not those born over a 20 year timespan, too many of them you wouldn't want to align yourself with!!
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There aren’t many of them left to align myself with even if I wanted to.😁
 
Wizaard said:
Every now and then I find myself swearing at Bloomfield Rd, usually at the officials, then glance round guiltily checking there are no kids in close vicinity.

However, as I used to tell the kids when they came to games, what you hear there you don't repeat to family members.
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Fuck the kids!


Not like Saville of course….I mean they can’t all expect their elders and “betters” to be perfect and they can fuck off if they are sensitive cunts or Gaylords, swearing wise, the wankers
 
Goforgoal said:
You’re tarring a whole generation with a brush that wasn’t of their making. Homosexuality was against the law until the late sixties, we didn’t make those laws, there were homophobes then just as there are now, the same applies to the other two. Regarding, so called, physical abuse of children. The majority of children, in those days, weren’t physically punished in any way , I myself was caned once in my whole childhood. The thing that maintained discipline was knowing the threat was there. That’s why we grew up respecting others and not the disobedient, self centred beings we have today.
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Like I said… Your era had some pretty mixed up values.

The threat of physical abuse as a means to enforce your will is totally abhorrent. And plenty of parents regularly chastised their kids with physical abuse (smacks, the belt etc)

Racism was just a way of life… all over the TV

Men could rape their wives until 1992…

You’re right that society has moved on though and in most ways (especially in terms of how we treat others) it has moved on for the better.

Of course their are times where swearing is inappropriate, but please do not try to convince me that your era had some kind of superior moral value system…. It’s simply not true….

Compared to my era your lot were savages.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Like I said… Your era had some pretty mixed up values.

The threat of physical abuse as a means to enforce your will is totally abhorrent. And plenty of parents regularly chastised their kids with physical abuse (smacks, the belt etc)

Racism was just a way of life… all over the TV

Men could rape their wives until 1992…

You’re right that society has moved on though and in most ways (especially in terms of how we treat others) it has moved on for the better.

Of course their are times where swearing is inappropriate, but please do not try to convince me that your era had some kind of superior moral value system…. It’s simply not true….

Compared to my era your lot were savages.
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Can’t ** argue with that you auld Twatspunker!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Like I said… Your era had some pretty mixed up values.

The threat of physical abuse as a means to enforce your will is totally abhorrent. And plenty of parents regularly chastised their kids with physical abuse (smacks, the belt etc)

Racism was just a way of life… all over the TV

Men could rape their wives until 1992…

You’re right that society has moved on though and in most ways (especially in terms of how we treat others) it has moved on for the better.

Of course their are times where swearing is inappropriate, but please do not try to convince me that your era had some kind of superior moral value system…. It’s simply not true….

Compared to my era your lot were savages.
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Nowhere in any of my posts did I mention moral values, superior or otherwise. I was and am talking about respect for other people, and there sensitivities.
 
gjr69 said:
Different world now, women I work with swear just as much as the men. All about context and intent for me. The actual words unless directed with violent intent at an individual are just sounds. Can only speak for myself but doesn't bother me whatsoever.
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The ones that deliver down my street are not to shabby on the eye, but you’ve just put me off em now😉
 
Goforgoal said:
Nowhere in any of my posts did I mention moral values, superior or otherwise. I was and am talking about respect for other people, and there sensitivities.
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You said that you were brought up in an era where you ‘treated people with respect’

And I’m saying that is a load of bollocks…

You treated black people horrifically (as a society in general)… You had zero respect for children and (as you admit) constantly held them in fear of violent abuse. People with minor disabilities were locked away in institutions.

So you weren’t brought up in an era where you treated people with respect at all. We now have an era where people are treated with respect.

Perhaps we do a bit more swearing these days and people might not use their knife and fork correctly, but as a society we are far more respectful to each other.
 
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