Why McCarthy has been an absolute disaster

When I say playing out from the back I don't mean like Swansea or Man City making 50 passes on the edge of our own box

I just mean passing it to one of our players from defence
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
-Completely stuck in his ways and trys to fit players into a pre conceived system

-Doesn't like flair players

-Doesn't like smaller players

-Plays for set pieces

-Instructs players to play long balls

-Doesn't play out from the back

-Doesn't play any sort of possession based football

-Didn't do one jot of homework on the club or players he was taking over

The last time I watched such a negative, long ball playing Blackpool team we had Nigel Worthington in charge, unfortunately Mick will take us down and be remembered as one of our worst ever managers playing some of the dullest football I've ever seen at Bloomfield Road. The board also have to take some of the blame for bringing a manager in who plays such an out dated negative style of football, which given the players we had on our books is completely unacceptable

Even if 3 teams have points deductions we still won't stay up given the way we go into games. January was the time to really have a go at teams playing our creative players on the front foot, this idiot has done the complete opposite with a safety first approach

Not one away point so far under this clown
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Phil, the unfortunate thing is I think Appleton would have earned us more points by now
 
MM, it does not look like its worked out for him , but how easy is it for someone who has little knowledge of football tactics to criticise someone who was left with a failing substandard team . They have no answers themselves so they list off what has been done wrong and pretend they know by saying the opposite must be done. Clever because some people believe what they are told . I don't know who should have been brought in ,but most fans thought that MM was a good bet at the time . If we had won 3 or 4 more games would we have anyone having a go at the style of play ? I don't think so ,but as we have lost more then we have won ,he doesn't know as much as every Tom Dick and Harry on the terraces.
 
Fargo99 said:
The reason our possession stats are so low is because by lumping it you give the ball to the opposition who tend to keep it
McCarthy's appointment has been disastrous. Don't know what the Board were thinking of assuming that the fans would be happy to turn up and watch this shite.
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We havent played any more long balls under McCarthy than we have under either Critchley or Appleton. We have done a lot worse possession wise though. MIick's average is about 33%. Over a similar period under Appy it was about 47%
 
I can understand why the board appointed him, they thought get an experienced manager in who will stop the goals at our end and with the flair players we’ve got, we’ll score the goals we need. Problem is, first of all it was too late and second they didn’t expect that he would not play the flair players. He absolutely now needs to go for it, no point in setting up not to lose. I think he might do that against Preston, but after that, throw everything at every game
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
MM, it does not look like its worked out for him , but how easy is it for someone who has little knowledge of football tactics to criticise someone who was left with a failing substandard team . They have no answers themselves so they list off what has been done wrong and pretend they know by saying the opposite must be done. Clever because some people believe what they are told . I don't know who should have been brought in ,but most fans thought that MM was a good bet at the time . If we had won 3 or 4 more games would we have anyone having a go at the style of play ? I don't think so ,but as we have lost more then we have won ,he doesn't know as much as every Tom Dick and Harry on the terraces.
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It was obvious to any football fan who actually watches football what sort of style and tactics McCarthy would use

It was also obvious that given the players we have in our squad that the above tactics wouldn't work
 
20togo said:
If if if... or more like it from you excuses,excuses,excuses.

This is a football message board for Blackpool fans where everything to do wit the club is discussed. And why was it a failing substandard team? The players and the tactics perhaps? If you don't want to discuss these things then clearly AVFTT isn't for you! And are you that stupid not to realise that if something isn't working then try something else, you know the opposite. As for Tom, Dick and Harry on the terraces, clearly you are the Dick.
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I had to unhide the ignored content to see what mister delusional had posted 😵😵

Jeez, I can't believe the penny still hasn't fully dropped with him yet, it took me up to the 🦖 picked the 3rd team of his reign to realise we were in the deepest 💩
 
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Ditch_the_Dino🦖_Simonized said:
I had to unhide the ignored content to see what mister delusional had posted 😵😵

Jeez, I can't believe the penny still hasn't fully dropped with him yet, it took me up to the 🦖 picked the 3rd team of his reign to realise we were n the deepest 💩
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yeah, the more you read his post the more stupid it sounds. Is there anyone on here who hasn't at some point commented on tactics.He probably got my post deleted too.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The best and the worst thing about this thread is that people just rinse and repeat the same bullshit and pay no attention to their own or others factual incompetence.

Never has “repeat something often enough and it becomes fact” been more apparent than on AVFTT.

Maybe Mad Mick should take a leaf out of the AVFTT ARMCHAIR EXPERT’s books and simply ‘imagine’ our route to success 😂

He could imagine a world where Josh Bowler dribbles the ball and passes or crosses to a team-mate instead of losing it and forgetting to track back…. Or one where Janice Poveda isn’t wandering around aimlessly thinking about his next solarium session and actually does something remotely useful for a change… He could imagine us gracefully passing the ball out from the back, instead of Grimshaw just passing it straight to the opposition striker for a free shot on goal…

Come up on Big Mick with a head like yours, the possibilities are endless…

Imagine Ian Poveda
And he would really try
Josh would take the Gloves Off
And we might win on Sky

Imagine all the people
Lovin life again

Ah

Imagine there’s no Offside
Then Jerry just might score
No dodgy reffing
And we get three or four

Imagine all the People
Cheering for a goal

You hoo

You might say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope some day that you’ll join us
And put some forwards on
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Well done.
 
How to sink a ship in midstream. he may keep us up he may not its another achievement or a relegation ?, I think MM had 2/3 days to decide if he wanted the challenge. MM is a very experienced football manager anyone with any serious nouse of this game can see that. Man management comes with experience some on here again show no respect as usual, Phil duex thinks he knows it all constantly tells us what should be done hindsight is a wonderfull thing, apply for the job why dont you ! in every club there are issues to deal with errors , discipline, attitudes, injuries etc. Why not just support the club instead of this constant critism , he's 'shit shite' (Nelson) technical term I think after one game !. SS had to make a decision and stand by it, he's spending his own money and taking the club forward. Get behind the boys they face a massive challenge without us they dont have a chance. I sometimes wonder what the players must think and feel if they read some of the stupid comments posted. What sort of attitudes are the players left with. At the end of the day we are all in this together. Please dont tell me its free speach and 'dont come on here if you dont like' it etc etc.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
-Completely stuck in his ways and trys to fit players into a pre conceived system

-Doesn't like flair players

-Doesn't like smaller players

-Plays for set pieces

-Instructs players to play long balls

-Doesn't play out from the back

-Doesn't play any sort of possession based football

-Didn't do one jot of homework on the club or players he was taking over

The last time I watched such a negative, long ball playing Blackpool team we had Nigel Worthington in charge, unfortunately Mick will take us down and be remembered as one of our worst ever managers playing some of the dullest football I've ever seen at Bloomfield Road. The board also have to take some of the blame for bringing a manager in who plays such an out dated negative style of football, which given the players we had on our books is completely unacceptable

Even if 3 teams have points deductions we still won't stay up given the way we go into games. January was the time to really have a go at teams playing our creative players on the front foot, this idiot has done the complete opposite with a safety first approach

Not one away point so far under this clown
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Phil

1. You have posted all this before

2. It’s not very helpful

3. If you could do better you had the chance to apply

4. Mick McCarthy’s record on paper is pretty impressive - he has a 5 month contract, no money, can’t change much, tonnes of injuries (more now than when he arrived), young Prem players who act worse than Junior Skool players but a lot of fans hope.

5. why don’t you stop posting all your negative drivel, sing a few songs at the matches and just let the players and Manager do their best.

6. Yes, it‘s a tough ask but with more positivity we might pull it off

7. Whar I do promise is that if we don’t we are absolutely knavkeredand in a far worse state than 3 years ago

8. We simply muststay up and I couldn’t give a hoot how.
 
Old_Laytonian said:
Always the problems , never the solutions
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The Exec team are paid good salaries to have the solutions; its only fair fans hold them to account. TBH the departure of Appleton was telegraphed for weeks and those who should have prepared the solutions seem to have been caught napping and their strategy was to get a old timer him and pay him a big reward if he kept us up but not part of a long term solution. We had inherited a squad from Critchley that was selected to play football and not the long ball game but we went for a manager who was going to rigidly stick to the latter. TBH this is pretty basic stuff. The problem and the solution is in recruitment, which has been poor. A club like ours with a limited finances needs to seek out the up and coming (like we did with Critchley) and not try and buy ourselves out of the self induced mess we had got ourselves into. I would be delighted if we stay up, which I see as unlikely but we do need a long term strategy which is top down.
 
SIDEFOOT_SID said:
MM will rightly shoulder some of the blame if we do go down but ultimately it is the poor recruitment, a sub-standard crop of players and long-term injuries to all of the experienced midfielders will be the main reason. Lessons need to be learned.
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Can't see him being blamed.
He'll just say, 'They should have got me in earlier and I would have had time to sort it out'.
In one way he might even be right.
 
We were screwed the minute critchley left pre-season with no succession plan. That is the truly pathetic thing for a professional elite sports club. Executives role.

We recruit players who are susceptible to injury - and unsurprisingly they get injured. Executives role.

We have not funded the playing staff at the expense of the infrastructure. It’s a choice - not necessarily saying right or wrong - but in explaining our near relegation status it is certainly a factor. Executives role.

Signs were there that Appleton was not succeeding pre-World cup and he should have been replaced earlier. Executives role.

Do you see a theme here?

All else has really been about the manner in which we have slid down the league.

MM has not stopped the rot - but it’s like sending Red Adair to put out the Deepwater Horizon with just what he has in his car while all the Executives deny that there is actually a problem and that planning for the long term is more important than putting out todays fire.

Whilst this mindset and poor Executive decision making remains in place I cannot see how the situation improves.

Shame - but I have supported Pool in every division and will continue to do so!

COYP!
 
Can you let everyone know how many more threads you are going to start about Mcarthy saying the exact same thing. Give it a f’ing rest. We can all see the issues, we don’t need to see a new thread on it every other day.
 
Roy Kent said:
We were screwed the minute critchley left pre-season with no succession plan. That is the truly pathetic thing for a professional elite sports club. Executives role.

We recruit players who are susceptible to injury - and unsurprisingly they get injured. Executives role.

We have not funded the playing staff at the expense of the infrastructure. It’s a choice - not necessarily saying right or wrong - but in explaining our near relegation status it is certainly a factor. Executives role.

Signs were there that Appleton was not succeeding pre-World cup and he should have been replaced earlier. Executives role.

Do you see a theme here?

All else has really been about the manner in which we have slid down the league.

MM has not stopped the rot - but it’s like sending Red Adair to put out the Deepwater Horizon with just what he has in his car while all the Executives deny that there is actually a problem and that planning for the long term is more important than putting out todays fire.

Whilst this mindset and poor Executive decision making remains in place I cannot see how the situation improves.

Shame - but I have supported Pool in every division and will continue to do so!

COYP!
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It's hard to disagree with you and of course the Board are responsible for those decisions.
BUT rather than just keep blaming them I'd like to think they are learning from their mistakes.
Of course the proof will be in the pudding and those mistakes need to be rectified with the next recruitment programme for both manager and players.
I wonder where we'll be this time next season?
 
Just support the team & manager until the end of the season. That’s all we can do. If that means the drop it’ll be a shame, but not the end of the world.
 
Wizaard said:
That's the point. We are unable to do that. Week after week our ball retention is shocking.
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that's exactly the point. When Grimmy was 1st choice we played into Ekpitetas feet he turned around and forwards were bearing down on him.
OR
it went back to Grimmy out to the right or left and ended up as a long punt upfield or an attack for the opposition.
 
Without a doubt we have gone worse under mm .It's the worst football I can remember seeing and that's with a slightly better squad .Spoke to a few people that have said they can't bear watching it anymore .Under Appleton we at least looked ok in some games and we were doing alright until sendings off in others . Yes there were some bad ones as well but our play at times is now so bad it defies belief .I seriously think we would have won some of these games under Appleton as some of the teams we have played have been dreadfull and there for the taking
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No you are talking nonsense again

I'm on about players under McCarthy just booting it and not even looking for a pass
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That's patently not true. The standard and accuracy of passing is no worse under McCarthy than it was under Appleton.
I'm not defending McCarthy but you are at it again. You're making statements without any reference to facts.
 
We played long ball under Appleton too. We were under pressure from being wide open in the middle of the park and the long ball was the out ball.
 
Whilst I agree in principal with many of Phil’s views, the fact is he was brought here to do a job. His job was to keep us up and in every game he’s gone in to he’s obviously felt that the team he was sending out had the best chance to win a game.

If it had been me in charge I would’ve done things differently and the results suggest he hasn’t got it right .. however .. bearing in mind the shit show he took over, the injuries and squad available and where we are .. I genuinely don’t think other alternatives would have necessarily been any better.

You only have to look at other sides around us who have swapped their managers - very few actually succeed in pulling off a great escape.
 
Dougall said:
Whilst I agree in principal with many of Phil’s views, the fact is he was brought here to do a job. His job was to keep us up and in every game he’s gone in to he’s obviously felt that the team he was sending out had the best chance to win a game.

If it had been me in charge I would’ve done things differently and the results suggest he hasn’t got it right .. however .. bearing in mind the shit show he took over, the injuries and squad available and where we are .. I genuinely don’t think other alternatives would have necessarily been any better.

You only have to look at other sides around us who have swapped their managers - very few actually succeed in pulling off a great escape.
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Getting Rogers in and Bowler back could have been massive under Appleton who had obviously worked with both players before

Bringing McCarthy in at that time didn't make any sense at all given not only McCarthys proven way of playing but also the apparent lack of research McCarthy did on what he was taking over

I honestly think keeping Appleton would have given us a better chance of survival
 
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