Will Simon Sadler be regretting taking over?

Ginge 2 said:
My answer to all your points is, I don't know, I wasn't at the meeting.

NEITHER WERE YOU.

You just make things up.
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What have a made up

I'm giving examples of where there has been no planning or proven strategy

Not sure what your issue is?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
What have a made up

I'm giving examples of where there has been no planning or proven strategy

Not sure what your issue is?
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Phil_bfc deux said:
What have a made up

I'm giving examples of where there has been no planning or proven strategy

Not sure what your issue is?
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You are 'saying'you are giving examples of where there has been no planning?
How do you know there has been no planning in the examples you give?

How do you know that there is no plan in place regarding the Rhodes situation?
You DONT, you just made it up. Theres an example for you.....of a fact that you are making things up.
You throw things out there, and you're not alone in this, of things you make up in your head because you think you know things based on rumour.

Is Kenny Dougall going to play in Thailand?
Is Marvin Ekpiteta leaving?
Is Pennington going to Stoke?
It's all rumour based on no facts.
Nobody knows, people like you assume things then start to believe your own imaginings....State facts or don't say anything.
It's a dangerous sport as many so disgustingly found out in the past.
 
Ginge 2 said:
You are 'saying'you are giving examples of where there has been no planning?
How do you know there has been no planning in the examples you give?

How do you know that there is no plan in place regarding the Rhodes situation?
You DONT, you just made it up. Theres an example for you.....of a fact that you are making things up.
You throw things out there, and you're not alone in this, of things you make up in your head because you think you know things based on rumour.

Is Kenny Dougall going to play in Thailand?
Is Marvin Ekpiteta leaving?
Is Pennington going to Stoke?
It's all rumour based on no facts.
Nobody knows, people like you assume things then start to believe your own imaginings....State facts or don't say anything.
It's a dangerous sport as many so disgustingly found out in the past.
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You aren't making any sense

None at all ...........
 
How do you know there is no plan in place for Rhodes?
Simple question. Answer it.
You stated there is NO PLAN IN PLACE FOR RHODES. How do you know?
Answer the question.
 
Ginge 2 said:
How do you know there is no plan in place for Rhodes?
Simple question. Answer it.
You stated there is NO PLAN IN PLACE FOR RHODES. How do you know?
Answer the question.
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You miss understand again

Shock horror

I'm talking about the signing given he can only play with a strike partner and Dembele plays best in a front 3

What's the plan to get the best out of those two expensive loans, which one are you compromising?
 
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Phil_bfc deux said:
You aren't making any sense

None at all ...........
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If you can't understand basic English in a debate then the easy answer for you is to not start a debate unless you can back up your points with solid facts, which you can't.

I bet you can understand that.
 
Ginge 2 said:
If you can't understand basic English in a debate then the easy answer for you is to not start a debate unless you can back up your points with solid facts, which you can't.

I bet you can understand that.
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You are clearly as thick as pig shit if you can't understand what I've posted, I've tried to explain it numerous times

As for solid facts I don't even know what that means are you saying you can't post on an obscure internet forum without solid facts?

Where are the fact police?
 
I find it quite disturbing that fans are questioning Simon Sadler, he is a very successful, wealthy businessman, born in Blackpool & a fan.
Our club is on a stable footing (unlike many) , he has undoubtedly made mistakes over the last 5 years, but I am sure he has learned from them.
I am very comfortable with him in charge & I have every belief that he will get it right.
 
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Lala said:
His only repeated mistake is his management appointments. Backward thinking nonsense the last 3 have been.

I back Sadler and always will for what he has done for the club.

But, he needs to grow a pair when assigning a manager. Think outside the box and stop being frozen in time with has been’s and never were’s.
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What about all the tellings off and dressing downs he's directed towards the fans?
 
Arriedirk said:
Get your facts right,sadler on record ,stating he knows nothing about running a football club.You would have thought he would have got some people in that do,then try and learn off them.He doesn’t even go to all the games.
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Do you ?
 
Well if he reads this board or Twitter then he will have a full understanding of our fan base.

The season Critchley took us up and got us promotion finally back to the Championship then he was “one of our own” and “he knows what we want”.
He got the first rumblings against him the season after despite mid table finish by Critchley.
He now knows that is only applicable if we are in the top 6 of any league we are in.

Otherwise he gets compared to Oyston and told it’s expected to lose tens of millions each season as he bought it.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
You are clearly as thick as pig shit if you can't understand what I've posted, I've tried to explain it numerous times

As for solid facts I don't even know what that means are you saying you can't post on an obscure internet forum without solid facts?

Where are the fact police?
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You say things as fact when they are not.......and then get your big girly knickers in a twist when someone calls you out on your imaginary world.
You can call me what you like but at least I live in a real world and not in a Welsh Alice in Wonderland world where bullshit is real.

You can't even answer the simplest of questions about a point YOU made yet say I'm thick.

You can't debate because you make things up and can't back them up.
Your starting position is weak and one of your own making .
You can't close the debate because you can't argue a myth...

I'll finish there because you bore me.
 
Lala said:
Some fans leave themselves open to that, so I’m not overly concerned with that side of things at all.
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After 5 years almost I'm just not sure that this is his forte. But you're right it's mainly his poor managerial decisions that have cost us. Can't really comment on what goes on other than that.

I think what's more annoying was his blind faith in critch in that interview he did of the appointment. Literally making it impossible for himself to sack him due to basically saying all roads point to Critch and that he can do no wrong. Sacking him is admission of how wrong he was.

I'm half convinced that if sadler thinks critch can't do it then he probably thinks noone can.
 
Ginge 2 said:
You say things as fact when they are not.......and then get your big girly knickers in a twist when someone calls you out on your imaginary world.
You can call me what you like but at least I live in a real world and not in a Welsh Alice in Wonderland world where bullshit is real.

You can't even answer the simplest of questions about a point YOU made yet say I'm thick.

You can't debate because you make things up and can't back them up.
Your starting position is weak and one of your own making .
You can't close the debate because you can't argue a myth...

I'll finish there because you bore me.
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Good

Don't respond to me then

Oh and you have still failed to answer any of my points properly
 
Chunkylad said:
Well if he reads this board or Twitter then he will have a full understanding of our fan base.

The season Critchley took us up and got us promotion finally back to the Championship then he was “one of our own” and “he knows what we want”.
He got the first rumblings against him the season after despite mid table finish by Critchley.
He now knows that is only applicable if we are in the top 6 of any league we are in.

Otherwise he gets compared to Oyston and told it’s expected to lose tens of millions each season as he bought it.
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Incorrect.

We weren't top 6 when we finished in the championship first time round and everyone was happy.

Anyway, football isn't about 3 years ago - noone gives a toss.

It's about right ** now.
 
SwannDangerous said:
Incorrect.

We weren't top 6 when we finished in the championship first time round and everyone was happy.

Anyway, football isn't about 3 years ago - noone gives a toss.

It's about right ** now.
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I didn’t say that. I said it was all “we love you Simon” when we went up as a top 6 side. Following season first rumblings started against him when we finished mid table.
Now he’s being slated on threads here and on Twitter. Because we are not top 6.

So…. He now knows what we want (expect/demand) from ‘one of our own’. Top 6 or he’s not funding it enough.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
Big commitment, big spend, a lot at stake and it’s not going well. He had no need to get involved, he has and that’s his choice….is it one he is Currently regretting?
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It’s a stupid post about a man who’s taken a huge risk and frankly doesn’t need daft questions like this if you don’t mind - imagine him reading the garbage on here

Why not pop down to Oxford and knock on his front door and ask him ?
Ridiculous post
 
Bloodtangerine said:
Big commitment, big spend, a lot at stake and it’s not going well. He had no need to get involved, he has and that’s his choice….is it one he is Currently regretting?
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Shouldn’t this be a question you ask him ?

How are we supposed to know ?
 
Chunkylad said:
I didn’t say that. I said it was all “we love you Simon” when we went up as a top 6 side. Following season first rumblings started against him when we finished mid table.
Now he’s being slated on threads here and on Twitter. Because we are not top 6.

So…. He now knows what we want (expect/demand) from ‘one of our own’. Top 6 or he’s not funding it enough.
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"Now he's being slated on threads here and on Twitter. Because we are not top 6."

And, as a closing addendum to the sentence quoted above: " And, also, because the players are feeling totally disillusioned. Tactically, we are 'all over the shop'. Morale is lower than a snake's belly. When, in games, we are evidently bereft of ideas, there is never a plan B put in place. Certain squad members are clearly being played out of position. Then there are squad members who simply shouldn't be named in the starting line-up - nor even as part of the bench, come to that. Substitutions, though they've improved a little, often seem to lack purpose and never result in any kind of meaningful impact. And, lastly, and, maybe most worryingly, currently, there is absolutely no demonstrable evidence of passion, or spirit, from the players for the full 90 minutes they are on the pitch."

All I am saying, is that there is so much more behind the fans' current disillusionment (beyond not being in the top 6) with how things stand, at present, at BFC. And, it is for that reason, that I felt it necessary to draw up a brief outline of some of the areas that are giving rise to the greatest level of concern amongst a sizeable section of our fanbase. I'm certainly not levelling this as a 'dig', or criticism, at any given party connected with the club. I'm just wishing to enlighten certain individuals, if they aren't aware already, of some of the grievances that many fans are starting to feel, often with a sense bordering on resentment.

Basically, despite the numerous changes that have been made, and which continue to be made, there are still certain aspects of the club positively crying out for change. And so that we're all singing from the same hymn, I'm just wanting to make that point crystal clear here.
 
I’m crystal clear on the issues around the playing performances (or lack of) and recruitment.

I’m not crystal clear why fans are turning on the owner and suggesting he’s not invested enough or isn’t committed to the club - hence my statement that he’s gone from being “one of our own” to being not fit to own the club in the eyes of some posters. Some questioning why we boycotted suggesting this is another Oyston situation.

It doesn’t feel very enlightened to me?
 
I certainly hope not. He's been let down by football people whom he had every reason to expect good things from: Grayson was excellent as a League One manager but second time around it was too late for him. Critchley badly let Sadler down by leaving and whilst Sadler believed he would take him back with the same bond and commitment, sadly, he isn't the same hungry young man who left us to take Gerrard's shilling.
 
Seasider1953 said:
I find it quite disturbing that fans are questioning Simon Sadler, he is a very successful, wealthy businessman, born in Blackpool & a fan.
Our club is on a stable footing (unlike many) , he has undoubtedly made mistakes over the last 5 years, but I am sure he has learned from them.
I am very comfortable with him in charge & I have every belief that he will get it right.
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If Sadler had learned from Grayson, Appy and Mac, Critch would not have returned.
 
He’ll only be regretting taking over when he reads comments from ungrateful fans on here slagging him off.

He may have made a mistake with Critch, it happens, football is a tough industry.

But concrete plans for a training ground, stadium completion, massive investment in all areas tell us that he is all in and we should back him no matter what.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
He’ll only be regretting taking over when he reads comments from ungrateful fans on here slagging him off.

He may have made a mistake with Critch, it happens, football is a tough industry.

But concrete plans for a training ground, stadium completion, massive investment in all areas tell us that he is all in and we should back him no matter what.
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Totally agree, he’s not the first owner to make mistakes employing managers and he won’t be the last.
 
Camberwell1 said:
It’s a stupid post about a man who’s taken a huge risk and frankly doesn’t need daft questions like this if you don’t mind - imagine him reading the garbage on here

Why not pop down to Oxford and knock on his front door and ask him ?
Ridiculous post
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People who say “ridiculous” all the time add nothing to a debate Campervan mate. It’s a great OP that many would say is the best OP of December
 
Camberwell1 said:
It’s a stupid post about a man who’s taken a huge risk and frankly doesn’t need daft questions like this if you don’t mind - imagine him reading the garbage on here

Why not pop down to Oxford and knock on his front door and ask him ?
Ridiculous post
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Plus which it’s nice to have a Knock now and then. My wrists aren’t up to a regular innings anymore but I can still just about work my way to a Century once in a while …..regard it as like Tiger Woods winning a Major if you will old boy 🏏👍

thanks for the runs Camberwick Green 👍
 
Sadler is clearly investing money and committing to BFC. Have my doubts that he’s seeking advice or acting consistently. We see that on football matters. On non football matters, who knows as this is less transparent each week. The return he’s getting on his money because of this is getting worse with time
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No I haven't it's there for all to see

What was the planning or strategy in getting rid of Appleton when he just signed 4 players that he wanted only to be replaced by a bloke in McCarthy who obviously wouldn't play football in a way to suit what we had

You must be Stevie ** Wonder to not see that the McCarthy appointment was lazy with absolutely no planning or strategy

We then re appoint a bloke who walked out on us and sell our best player, what's the thought process in signing Dembele when we don't play with wide forwards or Rhodes when he can only play in a front two

352 is about the only system we can play to suit our 2 best loan players, it doesn't suit everyone though

What's the strategy in signing Oakley Booth? He has a heart even smaller than CJs

What planning was in place with Big Marv or Kenneth Dougal given it appears they are both running down their contracts and are now out of the team?

What's in place if Rhodes goes back?

So yeah very little planning or strategy from the top
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I think you're contradicting yourself quite badly particularly over Jordan Rhodes and Dembele! Jordan Rhodes has been phenomenal and Dembele is probably one of the most exciting players in Lg1 and both have been playing in a 5-3-2.

I agree about Big Marv and Kenny Dougall and the apparent poor man-management by Critchley. I think this is a major blind spot of Critchley and would have been helped by having an experienced no.2. The unswerving tactic of sticking to 5-3-2 way from home also defies belief. It is plainly not working and should have been ditched sometime ago. He could have gone to a more solid 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I certainly hope not. He's been let down by football people whom he had every reason to expect good things from: Grayson was excellent as a League One manager but second time around it was too late for him. Critchley badly let Sadler down by leaving and whilst Sadler believed he would take him back with the same bond and commitment, sadly, he isn't the same hungry young man who left us to take Gerrard's shilling.
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What makes you say Critchley isn’t as hungry as he was before and that his commitment isn’t the same ?

I’m not seeing that.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
Plus which it’s nice to have a Knock now and then. My wrists aren’t up to a regular innings anymore but I can still just about work my way to a Century once in a while …..regard it as like Tiger Woods winning a Major if you will old boy 🏏👍

thanks for the runs Camberwick Green 👍
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You would score ten in my day in tge Palace shield !
 
Arriedirk said:
Get your facts right,sadler on record ,stating he knows nothing about running a football club.You would have thought he would have got some people in that do,then try and learn off them.He doesn’t even go to all the games.
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He runs a successful business which helps to pay for the football club … if you think he should be at every game you’re not very bright.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
Big commitment, big spend, a lot at stake and it’s not going well. He had no need to get involved, he has and that’s his choice….is it one he is Currently regretting?
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Look, when you decide to take over a club, you know what you’re getting into. It’s a big commitment, sure, and there’s a lot at stake. But regret? That’s not the game. You make a choice, you stand by it. Things not going well? That’s football. It’s not about if you need to get involved or not. It’s about taking responsibility once you’re in. You can’t just dip your toes in and then question your decision when the going gets tough. He’s made his bed, now he has to lie in it. Roll up your sleeves, get stuck in, and turn it around. That’s what leadership is about. No point in talking about regret.
 
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Dr Hfuhruhurr said:
Look, when you decide to take over a club, you know what you’re getting into. It’s a big commitment, sure, and there’s a lot at stake. But regret? That’s not the game. You make a choice, you stand by it. Things not going well? That’s football. It’s not about if you need to get involved or not. It’s about taking responsibility once you’re in. You can’t just dip your toes in and then question your decision when the going gets tough. He’s made his bed, now he has to lie in it. Roll up your sleeves, get stuck in, and turn it around. That’s what leadership is about. No point in talking about regret.
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So your answer is No…got it 👍
 
On the money side, it depends on how much money he's got. If he's worth 400 million and he's spunked 20-30 mil so far whilst experiencing the joy of leading the club to promotion to the second tier for only the second time in 40 odd years then maybe he can justify it.

If he's worth significantly less then it will likely bite a bit more. Then again I get heady if my bank balance is in 5 digits and am currently reeling from an unexpected 12.99 charge from Amazon so I can hardly relate.
 
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