Worried by lack of transfers?

Chunkylad said:
Point is, unless we sign under 21s or release players in whatever manner, we are already at capacity.

I’m scratching around on who to release. Certainly we have 3 current left backs and 1 current right back.

I’ve read posts about us signing 6 or 7 players? We’d need to clear some out for better or worse to make that happen unless we are lining up 4 or 5 U21 signings (which again is potentially possible if not improbable)
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Carey counts as U21, so we have space for a RB, Tharme needs league experience, so I presume the club will be looking to loan him out, Virtue missed almost all of last season and would probably benefit from a spell out on loan, so the club can probably afford to bring in one or two in central midfield without ending up in a Howe/Nuttal/Sarkic situation.
 
Scaramanga said:
Surely someone has to leave first ? Is the squad not already maxed out at 25 ? Genuine question by the way.
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I thought we were on 24 if you discount Bez.
Apter may also get game time this season and maybe other youth players.
Think we will get maybe 2 loans from Prem academies, other than that yes players need to leave to free slots as we do not have the like of Sarkic, Howe and Nuttall who rightly were not given squad places, none of the current squad are that bad that they would be left out
 
Alfie Conn said:
Massive peice of uninformed guesswork,I sometimes wish club officials dont read this message board,it must be a slap in the face to Simon Sadler for all the good he has done for our club reading shite like this.
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In fairness I think this kind of stuff has to just be water off a ducks back for any F.C. owner, manager, player etc..

One week the fans are slagging you off and the next week they’re chanting your name from the stands. The overwhelming majority is just people reacting, sounding off and largely just talking shit between ourselves…

I think you also have to throw a whole load of knobber wind ups (like Seasiderzzz) into the mixing pot as well 😉

I mean SS did respond to the criticism of Michael Appleton and I’ll hold my hand up, I wasn’t (aren’t) his greatest fan, but the reality is that anyone who said (here or elsewhere) that they wouldn’t buy a ST because of that appointment was just talking out of their arse… You can’t really give it any more credit than that… So a statement to the effect

“We’ve heard that a few people are threatening not to buy Season Tickets, due to the signing of Michael Appleton… So please stop talking out of your arses and give him your support” would have sufficed 👍

Regardless of the numerous criticisms of this and that, which people will always do, think it’s fair to say that an overwhelming majority (if not all) Blackpool Fans are right behind SS and the board and appreciate the investment and transformation of the Club..,
 
Seasiderzzz said:
Anyone worried by the lack of incoming players, everyone we are linked with, joins another team, whether its sallary, training facilities or a hangover from the Oyston years players just dont seem to want to join us. I believe its financial Sadler just hasn't got the money needed to fund a club at this level.
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You say “everyone we are linked with” which really means those the press/media have linked with us. In reality they have no idea who we are linked with. The press more often than not just speculate…
 
Seasiderzzz said:
Anyone worried by the lack of incoming players, everyone we are linked with, joins another team, whether its sallary, training facilities or a hangover from the Oyston years players just dont seem to want to join us. I believe its financial Sadler just hasn't got the money needed to fund a club at this level.
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Your belief seems to be at complete odds with the £30-£40 million pound personal commitment towards a world class training ground.
 
tangysider said:
I thought we were on 24 if you discount Bez.
Apter may also get game time this season and maybe other youth players.
Think we will get maybe 2 loans from Prem academies, other than that yes players need to leave to free slots as we do not have the like of Sarkic, Howe and Nuttall who rightly were not given squad places, none of the current squad are that bad that they would be left out
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1542811162718388224

If you count them up we have 25, not including Carey who is noted as under 21. So that means we have to move some out, or just not name them in our 25 man squad, to be able to add players.
For me Bez has to go along with Reece James, loan Tharme out, that would free up three places
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
In fairness I think this kind of stuff has to just be water off a ducks back for any F.C. owner, manager, player etc..

One week the fans are slagging you off and the next week they’re chanting your name from the stands. The overwhelming majority is just people reacting, sounding off and largely just talking shit between ourselves…

I think you also have to throw a whole load of knobber wind ups (like Seasiderzzz) into the mixing pot as well 😉

I mean SS did respond to the criticism of Michael Appleton and I’ll hold my hand up, I wasn’t (aren’t) his greatest fan, but the reality is that anyone who said (here or elsewhere) that they wouldn’t buy a ST because of that appointment was just talking out of their arse… You can’t really give it any more credit than that… So a statement to the effect

“We’ve heard that a few people are threatening not to buy Season Tickets, due to the signing of Michael Appleton… So please stop talking out of your arses and give him your support” would have sufficed 👍

Regardless of the numerous criticisms of this and that, which people will always do, think it’s fair to say that an overwhelming majority (if not all) Blackpool Fans are right behind SS and the board and appreciate the investment and transformation of the Club..,
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Right on Daz
 
AngelBFC said:
We have a new manager . Only been in the job two weeks. He will be assessing our needs.
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Critchley and the others would've done that before he left, the club isn't going to abandon their existing plans based on a handful of training sessions by the new manager.
 
Mildly disappointing that we haven't signed anyone now, that means that we haven't managed to find or persuade any out of contract players, so anyone coming in now is either going to be on loan, or with a fee attached.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Critchley and the others would've done that before he left, the club isn't going to abandon their existing plans based on a handful of training sessions by the new manager.
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Maybe not abandon their existing plans but perhaps revisit them in the light of the new Manager's views. He surely must have a say in
who comes in and goes.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Critchley and the others would've done that before he left, the club isn't going to abandon their existing plans based on a handful of training sessions by the new manager.
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I dont think thats right MA will want his own additions not those that the last manager fancied.
 
FessParker said:
Maybe not abandon their existing plans but perhaps revisit them in the light of the new Manager's views. He surely must have a say in
who comes in and goes.
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Less than some on here might expect, they're not going to move on a player they otherwise planned to keep based on a new manager's say-so, they might keep one they'd planned to move on though.

The biggest impact that Appleton might have is on loans, he's worked with a few players from City and Arsenal in the last couple of years that might be ideal for our needs, his contacts and previous relationship with the players might move them from unlikely targets to plausible or possible ones.
 
Grayth said:
It's definitely a concern. Appleton has had plenty of time to get players in now and last year we started early, so that's clearly how we want to do things.

As Kurt says, momentum lost. Clearly we're struggling. Can't pretend we're not.
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I'm not sure about that tbh. Struggling? Appo has only been here 2 weeks, daft to rush. We can start the season with a full squad as things stand, and do our ins and outs between now and 1/9 as and when the right things occur.

The biggest influence on the team isn't individual players, it's the head coach, and we have a new one. He'll make us stronger or weaker, or about the same. But we should get renewed energy, new ideas, new momentum. For a while at least.

He'll decide what he wants, he'll talk to other clubs about players he fancies, we'll sign those we can persuade within our budget.

Our budget might not allow for much in fees. We didn't do Brannagan in January. We don't have much purchasing clout. We are attractive for loan placements though, an established and stable Championship club with a respected coach who is well regarded for handling loan players. It may be the strategy this season. We might get 3 or 4 quality loans that make a significant difference. We might sign 2 or 3 on 3 year deals that cost 200 to 500k. Or nothing, released from Prem clubs. We won't struggle to get loans, sub 500k signings and free released players, like Bowler, Yates, Grimmy, Kenny, Keshi, Lavery etc.

I think it's more important to get the best people, than the quickest signings, personally. We just need to cherry pick the Prem releases and loans really, to bring in about 5 players who are looking for a great opportunity. Grimmy and Bowler saw that opportunity and have flourished. Dujon did himself a favour with us. I don't think we've missed out on this year's crops?
 
AngelBFC said:
I dont think thats right MA will want his own additions not those that the last manager fancied.
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I don't think that's how the system works these days, and the club aren't going to recruit someone they haven't scouted previously on the manager's say-so.
 
voyeur said:
I'm not sure about that tbh. Struggling? Appo has only been here 2 weeks, daft to rush. We can start the season with a full squad as things stand, and do our ins and outs between now and 1/9 as and when the right things occur.

The biggest influence on the team isn't individual players, it's the head coach, and we have a new one. He'll make us stronger or weaker, or about the same. But we should get renewed energy, new ideas, new momentum. For a while at least.

He'll decide what he wants, he'll talk to other clubs about players he fancies, we'll sign those we can persuade within our budget.

Our budget might not allow for much in fees. We didn't do Brannagan in January. We don't have much purchasing clout. We are attractive for loan placements though, an established and stable Championship club with a respected coach who is well regarded for handling loan players. It may be the strategy this season. We might get 3 or 4 quality loans that make a significant difference. We might sign 2 or 3 on 3 year deals that cost 200 to 500k. Or nothing, released from Prem clubs. We won't struggle to get loans, sub 500k signings and free released players, like Bowler, Yates, Grimmy, Kenny, Keshi, Lavery etc.

I think it's more important to get the best people, than the quickest signings, personally. We just need to cherry pick the Prem releases and loans really, to bring in about 5 players who are looking for a great opportunity. Grimmy and Bowler saw that opportunity and have flourished. Dujon did himself a favour with us. I don't think we've missed out on this year's crops?
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You're right about loans. Easiest way to improve your starters in 3 or 4 positions. We won't be alone in wanting the pick of them though. Plenty already done around the division.

I said we're struggling because I've seen how we've done business so far under Sadler. I sort of hope we're struggling and not just standing still. That's a dangerous game. You're either getting better or worse.
 
Grayth said:
You're right about loans. Easiest way to improve your starters in 3 or 4 positions. We won't be alone in wanting the pick of them though. Plenty already done around the division.

I said we're struggling because I've seen how we've done business so far under Sadler. I sort of hope we're struggling and not just standing still. That's a dangerous game. You're either getting better or worse.
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Definitely being thrifty, a form of struggling I guess. But I hate wastefulness and throwing money around carelessly. Make the most of what you've got, I think we're doing that.
 
Seasiderzzz said:
Anyone worried by the lack of incoming players, everyone we are linked with, joins another team, whether its sallary, training facilities or a hangover from the Oyston years players just dont seem to want to join us. I believe its financial Sadler just hasn't got the money needed to fund a club at this level.
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The fact that Appleton said we were after a couple of players and weren't being rushed actually gives me more hope that we're not rushing in and getting any old random Jonny.
 
Not.many Championship sides have made, signings I am envious of
Burnley signing Twine and Sunderland signing Ballard are probably the pick of the bunch. Though is Twine better than Carey and Ballard better than Eki?
No I take it back Woodburn TO PNE is the Stella signing
 
Seasiderzzz said:
Anyone worried by the lack of incoming players, everyone we are linked with, joins another team, whether its sallary, training facilities or a hangover from the Oyston years players just dont seem to want to join us. I believe its financial Sadler just hasn't got the money needed to fund a club at this level.
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Not at all. Many other clubs haven't made changes either.
 
AngelBFC said:
I dont think thats right MA will want his own additions not those that the last manager fancied.
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The role of the Head coach means they get to coach players found by the team of Mansford and Stephenson. Appleton will have an input but not like it used to be and certainly not finding and signing players as of old.
 
Wizaard said:
The role of the Head coach means they get to coach players found by the team of Mansford and Stephenson. Appleton will have an input but not like it used to be and certainly not finding and signing players as of old.
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I bet he's giving them names of people he would like. He seems to have contacts.
 
BFC95 said:
"players just don't seem to want to join us". Have I missed something here, or do you know something we don't? The club run a tight ship, nothing leaks, everything you see about players is paper speculation. We don't know what's happening on the inside, what players were talking to or chasing etc. For all we know next week we might go and announce 3 great signings. To be worried about a lack of transfer activity when there's still 4 weeks until the season starts, as well as a new manager being in the job for just over 2 weeks seems an over reaction to me.

And to talk about Sadler not having the money is just the most stupid and ridiculous comment, because I'd say 30m on a new stand and new training ground shows some real financial capability.

Sit back, chill out, get some perspective 👍
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Hows your perspective now?
 
AngelBFC said:
Your belief seems to be at complete odds with the £30-£40 million pound personal commitment towards a world class training ground.

This money has already been promised in writing has it? Or is it just the sort of speculation we've all heard before?

Call me selfish but I would rather have a competitive football squad now rather than the promise of a new east stand (for away fans) and a training ground on the outskirts of Blackpool in the next 10 years.
 
The thing is a properly run club should have all 3, a squad of players of the ability of the league they are in, a proper training ground and a proper stadium. The O's completely fucked it up but anyone buying the club had to know that it needed to do all 3 of those not one or two of them, at the moment we have none of those things.
 
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