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Dave-p-

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I for one will not be happy if Appleton becomes our new manager and will seriously consider a NAPM stance in responce to this. Firstly it would seem that our Simon does not understand the fan base or rather doesn't care (oystonesque) If he were to appoint that rat, and secondly I dont give a shite how well he's done at Lincoln, just the mention of his name leaves a bad taste
 
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Never go back is all im saying. He is a rat cos rats desert sinking ships.last time he came to us he came with glowing credentials and fair do's he did one cos he sussed old rapeys morals and attitude towards the pool thats to his credit but thats the best i can do in favour of him. Maybe if hes the messiah in tour eyes then you would be happy if pince came back next time he does one cos he might be ok this time around hey
 
Appleton left because of Karl Oyston and the way he ran the club. Appleton said at the time he left, that there was no forward planning and it the club was run on a day to day basis! I think he got totally frustrated with Oyston and found he could not work with him!
 
Dave-p- said:
I for one will not be happy if Appleton becomes our new manager and will seriously consider a NAPM stance in responce to this. Firstly it would seem that our Simon does not understand the fan base or rather doesn't care (oystonesque) If he were to appoint that rat, and secondly I dont give a shite how well he's done at Lincoln, just the mention of his name leaves a bad taste
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he didn’t even do that well at Lincoln
 
Dave-p- said:
Never go back is all im saying. He is a rat cos rats desert sinking ships.last time he came to us he came with glowing credentials and fair do's he did one cos he sussed old rapeys morals and attitude towards the pool thats to his credit but thats the best i can do in favour of him. Maybe if hes the messiah in tour eyes then you would be happy if pince came back next time he does one cos he might be ok this time around hey
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Let's wait and see first as seems a lot of bull going around.

Also support the team regardless, the board will choose who they believe will be best for us all in every way.

We support BFC, the boycott was a one off unique circumstance, not something to be threatened after you hear something you don't like.
 
AngelBFC said:
So you wont go and support the club and the players after all the investment thats been made and the plans in place for training ground etc just because they appoint a manager you dont like sounds fickle to me
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Fans should have a say in everything connected to their club. Doesn't mean the board will always follow fan reaction but it's a great guide. It's clear to see that if Appleton is employed then there will be unrest, you won't stop that no matter how hard you try Angel 👍🏻
 
NewburyOne said:
Not quite true, he walked out to grab more money at Blackburn. It wasn't just the Os.
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We have no idea what the O's were paying him. He was on the infamous rolling contract after a poor spell at Pompey. Knowing them it would be as little as possible. If you are offered more money, in a more supportive environment, for doing the same job, would you refuse that opportunity? I don't know but I assume he had family to support. At Oxford he had a 45% win rate over three years, which is good.
Not saying he'd be my pick, but I don't think he's the nightmare many seem to fear.
 
Just to let you know im not a wum i am a vein bulger i was napm i have loved the pool all my life and always will do so water of a ducks back call me what you want im tangerine theough and through
 
Dave-p- said:
Just to let you know im not a wum i am a vein bulger i was napm i have loved the pool all my life and always will do so water of a ducks back call me what you want im tangerine theough and through
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I would like to know exactly what you think is 'Oystonesque' (re your OP) about Simon Sadler, because I can't think of any football club owner less like Oyston, than Sadler.
 
Dave-p- said:
I for one will not be happy if Appleton becomes our new manager and will seriously consider a NAPM stance in responce to this. Firstly it would seem that our Simon does not understand the fan base or rather doesn't care (oystonesque) If he were to appoint that rat, and secondly I dont give a shite how well he's done at Lincoln, just the mention of his name leaves a bad taste
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im not a huge fan but grow up if the club are happy thats what matters.
 
I didn't really warm to him or that aggressive assistant whoever he was, but really know little about him. Whoever our board chooses I'll go along with & support the team as I have done for many years (barring the boycott years) I do believe we are in good hands. If they pick the right person hopefully we can progress & if they don't get it right well there'll be another forced change sooner than we would like.
 
Gazboro said:
Is this a nobber I dont recognise this poster
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You dont recognise me cos i just read posts on here i dont usualy post cos most post bollocks. I just posted my opinion about Appleton being our new manager thats all you prick
 
Top Gun said:
Not true at all, those who don't buy were never going to anyway.
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This isn't true. I'm waiting till pay day to get mine and my daughters season tickets, but I wont be getting one if Appleton is manger.

Like I said in another post, I dont go to every game because of work, but get a season ticket to make it easier than having to buy individual tickets. This also encourages me to go to more games. I will pick and chose which games I go to even though I know this means I won't go to as many.

Appleton is uninspiring and a knobber. Hopefully all this is just rumours and we don't get him, but I've already made my mind up if we do.
 
Someone supposedly ITK mentions a name on social media and it immediately becomes fact to a few. We have progressed from the Oyston days when most things were leaked on a regular basis.
 
Kyle Seasider said:
This isn't true. I'm waiting till pay day to get mine and my daughters season tickets, but I wont be getting one if Appleton is manger.

Like I said in another post, I dont go to every game because of work, but get a season ticket to make it easier than having to buy individual tickets. This also encourages me to go to more games. I will pick and chose which games I go to even though I know this means I won't go to as many.

Appleton is uninspiring and a knobber. Hopefully all this is just rumours and we don't get him, but I've already made my mind up if we do.
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Exception to the rule.
 
tangible said:
We have no idea what the O's were paying him. He was on the infamous rolling contract after a poor spell at Pompey. Knowing them it would be as little as possible. If you are offered more money, in a more supportive environment, for doing the same job, would you refuse that opportunity? I don't know but I assume he had family to support. At Oxford he had a 45% win rate over three years, which is good.
Not saying he'd be my pick, but I don't think he's the nightmare many seem to fear.
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I'm biased, I knew both him and his wife when I/they lived in Preston. He was a grade A prick. Nothing I've seen in any of his interviews makes me think he's changed. Mansford talked about character and knowing what someone who fits Blackpool looks like, well for me Appleton is the polar opposite. An obnoxious prat who'd feck off as soon as he had a whiff of a better offer.
 
NewburyOne said:
I'm biased, I knew both him and his wife when I/they lived in Preston. He was a grade A prick. Nothing I've seen in any of his interviews makes me think he's changed. Mansford talked about character and knowing what someone who fits Blackpool looks like, well for me Appleton is the polar opposite. An obnoxious prat who'd feck off as soon as he had a whiff of a better offer.
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All I know is that the football under him was shit!
 
Kyle Seasider said:
When I've already spoken to a few other friends and family that think the same way as me. That's tells me I'm not.
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Kyle Seasider said:
When I've already spoken to a few other friends and family that think the same way as me. That's tells me I'm not.
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The only time a true Blackpool fan would stop going was during the boycott of all things Oyston. A manager can be liked or disliked, but it won't stop somebody who was going to buy a season ticket from getting one, it simply won't. Like I said, always an exception to a rule and the exception proves the rule 👍🏻
 
NewburyOne said:
I'm biased, I knew both him and his wife when I/they lived in Preston. He was a grade A prick. Nothing I've seen in any of his interviews makes me think he's changed. Mansford talked about character and knowing what someone who fits Blackpool looks like, well for me Appleton is the polar opposite. An obnoxious prat who'd feck off as soon as he had a whiff of a better offer.
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Well I don't have your first hand knowledge, and I don't know your reasons for saying he's a 'grade A prick', but they sound very personal. I don't know him. I'm just going off his record as a manager, which, recently, isn't that bad. As I say, he wouldn't be my choice, but I trust the club to appoint the best candidate available. Is it possible that Mansford knows him better than you do? He's done reasonable stints at Oxford and Lincoln, so he's not done much fecking off since leaving Blackpool in 2013, nine years ago.
 
GTFsTwinBrother said:
I agree with you other than this...

Just sounds like a (edit: drunk) WUM to me.
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Fair point. Now that I've re read it it does seem a bit slurred right enough
Although, after reading his subsequent posts he seems to have totally sobered up. I'll put it down to him just not thinking very much of old Apple Barrel
 
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Top Gun said:
The only time a true Blackpool fan would stop going was during the boycott of all things Oyston. A manager can be liked or disliked, but it won't stop somebody who was going to buy a season ticket from getting one, it simply won't. Like I said, always an exception to a rule and the exception proves the rule 👍🏻
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Not sure about that, I've said of course we should all go whatever, we are pool fans and I and many others will.

But you're forgetting there's levels of pool fan, a smaller number are relatively casual and non-committal, probably even some with a ST. Many are struggling financially and the thought of bringing back a figure people don't want would be enough for some to be put off. Whether they buy again when we win is another matter. For eg bring Grayson back again and sales would fall so clealry it can have an effect.

Football for some is not life and death like it is for the hardcore.

We can say they're not as hardcore pool fans but the club should not be risking annoying some fans. Not saying it is.

I've said many times but an appointment like an Evatt would get the fans excited and sell more ST or tickets on the nostalgia and the football he plays.

BTW we should be trying to fill the ground as much as possible, given were still rebuilding after years of crap and missing a promotion without the usual sell out home game and Wembley 30k to encourage to attend.

Thats why I've wanted a cheap deal or we need some big friendlies and try and fill the ground, get people hooked and hopefully come again. Or even a good cup run, but obviously that means us actually progressing which we never seem to do....
 
NewburyOne said:
I'm biased, I knew both him and his wife when I/they lived in Preston. He was a grade A prick. Nothing I've seen in any of his interviews makes me think he's changed. Mansford talked about character and knowing what someone who fits Blackpool looks like, well for me Appleton is the polar opposite. An obnoxious prat who'd feck off as soon as he had a whiff of a better offer.
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interesting that New, so an arrogant prick on a personal level ?
 
JJpool said:
Not sure about that, I've said of course we should all go whatever, we are pool fans and I and many others will.

But you're forgetting there's levels of pool fan, a smaller number are relatively casual and non-committal, probably even some with a ST. Many are struggling financially and the thought of bringing back a figure people don't want would be enough for some to be put off. Whether they buy again when we win is another matter. For eg bring Grayson back again and sales would fall so clealry it can have an effect.

Football for some is not life and death like it is for the hardcore.

We can say they're not as hardcore pool fans but the club should not be risking annoying some fans. Not saying it is.

I've said many times but an appointment like an Evatt would get the fans excited and sell more ST or tickets on the nostalgia and the football he plays.

BTW we should be trying to fill the ground as much as possible, given were still rebuilding after years of crap and missing a promotion without the usual sell out home game and Wembley 30k to encourage to attend.

Thats why I've wanted a cheap deal or we need some big friendlies and try and fill the ground, get people hooked and hopefully come again. Or even a good cup run, but obviously that means us actually progressing which we never seem to do....
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a lad i spoke to tonight said he will ask for a refund if Appleton gets the job - don’t know if he will follow through with that but he was quite strong in his opinions. I’ve also got mine and wouldn’t ask for a refund but really don’t want appleton.
 
JJpool said:
Not sure about that, I've said of course we should all go whatever, we are pool fans and I and many others will.

But you're forgetting there's levels of pool fan, a smaller number are relatively casual and non-committal, probably even some with a ST. Many are struggling financially and the thought of bringing back a figure people don't want would be enough for some to be put off. Whether they buy again when we win is another matter. For eg bring Grayson back again and sales would fall so clealry it can have an effect.

Football for some is not life and death like it is for the hardcore.

We can say they're not as hardcore pool fans but the club should not be risking annoying some fans. Not saying it is.

I've said many times but an appointment like an Evatt would get the fans excited and sell more ST or tickets on the nostalgia and the football he plays.

BTW we should be trying to fill the ground as much as possible, given were still rebuilding after years of crap and missing a promotion without the usual sell out home game and Wembley 30k to encourage to attend.

Thats why I've wanted a cheap deal or we need some big friendlies and try and fill the ground, get people hooked and hopefully come again. Or even a good cup run, but obviously that means us actually progressing which we never seem to do....
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Cheapening the product, as was the case under the Oyston's, has a long term effect. There is always the next generation that will be seen as those to target with cheap tickets, but they are also the generation that demand success. It takes finance to do that and books need to balance, albeit an owner understands that they will be required to invest substantially into a football club.

It is important that the club and the town regenerate together, and as one. More job opportunities for local people mean more chance they will be able to afford a season ticket. More jobs in the area mean more people move to the town and the population grows. More school children mean more target audience. Its a long project that in reality will never end, amd nor should it. I for one would love to see the day that Blackpool Football Club host a 30k crowd. It may seem a lifetime away, but it's possible👍🏻
 
Top Gun said:
Cheapening the product, as was the case under the Oyston's, has a long term effect. There is always the next generation that will be seen as those to target with cheap tickets, but they are also the generation that demand success. It takes finance to do that and books need to balance, albeit an owner understands that they will be required to invest substantially into a football club.

It is important that the club and the town regenerate together, and as one. More job opportunities for local people mean more chance they will be able to afford a season ticket. More jobs in the area mean more people move to the town and the population grows. More school children mean more target audience. Its a long project that in reality will never end, amd nor should it. I for one would love to see the day that Blackpool Football Club host a 30k crowd. It may seem a lifetime away, but it's possible👍🏻
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30k isn’t possible though. Even with the completion of Bloomers, it will be 20k max.
To get to the that sort of attendance would take a lifetime of work and huge money, unless we get to the prem and stay there for a few years, which again will take a substantial amount of money, or like 2010, the stars just align.
 
Dewster said:
30k isn’t possible though. Even with the completion of Bloomers, it will be 20k max.
To get to the that sort of attendance would take a lifetime of work and huge money, unless we get to the prem and stay there for a few years, which again will take a substantial amount of money, or like 2010, the stars just align.
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A long project indeed, but an enjoyable one 👍🏻
 
Top Gun said:
Cheapening the product, as was the case under the Oyston's, has a long term effect. There is always the next generation that will be seen as those to target with cheap tickets, but they are also the generation that demand success. It takes finance to do that and books need to balance, albeit an owner understands that they will be required to invest substantially into a football club.

It is important that the club and the town regenerate together, and as one. More job opportunities for local people mean more chance they will be able to afford a season ticket. More jobs in the area mean more people move to the town and the population grows. More school children mean more target audience. Its a long project that in reality will never end, amd nor should it. I for one would love to see the day that Blackpool Football Club host a 30k crowd. It may seem a lifetime away, but it's possible👍🏻
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I'm not saying to cheapen the product, although there can be a sweetspot in a poor town, its about being as affordable as possible too, but to fill the stadium with as many lapsed fans, new fans etc.

Some will need a kick to attend or attend again. The occasional offer you can't refuse will do that.

Sadler did one when he first took over, ST holders could bring x amount of new fans or whatever it was.

A cheap friendly against good opposition, anything like that that can fill the stadium with people who haven't been in a while or before will help in the short term.

As for the long term project, thats great but a while off, but still vital.

In the here and now we have had a large section of the ground empty.

Logistics aside if that could be filled with fans it's only a benefit.

I'd like to see what crowd we could get in a decent game for a cheap price, it would give an idea of how much price can affect things, what sort of size fanbase we have to tap into etc.

It's about getting people hooked and short term enticing them through the door. Success will do that but not guaranteed, a cheap deal will too. The big games are all previous purchase history only and new fans may miss out and the big games are when you should grow as that's the ones most likely to lure new casual fans in and hook them.

You can have a leaflet campaign and volunteers knocking on doors, many ways to try and get more fans coming. New fan special deal so almost nothing to lose....
 
NewburyOne said:
I'm biased, I knew both him and his wife when I/they lived in Preston. He was a grade A prick. Nothing I've seen in any of his interviews makes me think he's changed. Mansford talked about character and knowing what someone who fits Blackpool looks like, well for me Appleton is the polar opposite. An obnoxious prat who'd feck off as soon as he had a whiff of a better offer.
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I know someone who spoke to him in freckleton once, can’t remember what they said about him so I can’t comment & in the morning I’ll wonder why I even typed this
 
SpionKop said:
a lad i spoke to tonight said he will ask for a refund if Appleton gets the job - don’t know if he will follow through with that but he was quite strong in his opinions. I’ve also got mine and wouldn’t ask for a refund but really don’t want appleton.
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I bet a lot are just venting and may reconsider but some won't.

I can't see it happening anyway.

But yeah doesn't seem the right choice at all.

You want someone who will galvanise and excite the fans.
 
JJpool said:
I'm not saying to cheapen the product, although there can be a sweetspot in a poor town, its about being as affordable as possible too, but to fill the stadium with as many lapsed fans, new fans etc.

Some will need a kick to attend or attend again. The occasional offer you can't refuse will do that.

Sadler did one when he first took over, ST holders could bring x amount of new fans or whatever it was.

A cheap friendly against good opposition, anything like that that can fill the stadium with people who haven't been in a while or before will help in the short term.

As for the long term project, thats great but a while off, but still vital.

In the here and now we have had a large section of the ground empty.

Logistics aside if that could be filled with fans it's only a benefit.

I'd like to see what crowd we could get in a decent game for a cheap price, it would give an idea of how much price can affect things, what sort of size fanbase we have to tap into etc.

It's about getting people hooked and short term enticing them through the door. Success will do that but not guaranteed, a cheap deal will too. The big games are all previous purchase history only and new fans may miss out and the big games are when you should grow as that's the ones most likely to lure new casual fans in and hook them.

You can have a leaflet campaign and volunteers knocking on doors, many ways to try and get more fans coming. New fan special deal so almost nothing to lose....
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There’s loads of ideas that could be listened to. But trying to get an extra 15k on attendance seems unreal. Ultimately success breeds success, so we will see what happens.
 
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