Bullshit Ben

TarletonTangerine said:
Simms - deal agreed & chose Sunderland

Cameron - release clause met, assuming he'd have known what wages we were willing to pay before travelling up

Wonder if both of those spoke to Appleton and declined the moves? Can't recall as many issues pre-Appleton (post Koko)
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Exactly this
 
Do we even have any confirmation that he was actually interested in moving?

It's the oldest trick in the book to force your way into getting a new contract.
 
Sadler said when he took over that he had no idea how to run a football club, which is fair enough so those he employs to do that job need to be top of their game, I’m not sure they are though so he needs to have a serious think about some changes because frankly, our efforts at signing players this summer have been ** embarrassing
 
Why is it the CEO at fault if a player decides he is happy where he is, Certain Posters and especially the original one seem to like running down the club no matter what the situation, We will have success and failure in all the things we do we are not the richest club in the world and cannot expect everyone to want to play for us. We just try our best, I did not see any official post saying Brannigan would be joining so why is it our fault
 
I've just given up right now. We're either seem to be doing things on the cheap or getting played by players and agents. Again, I feel really disheartened. This transfer window has been a complete joke so far. I keep hoping that it will turn around, but what little hope I had left is fading quickly.
 
Although none of this is of Appleton's making, I do hope for his sake we don't start badly.
The board made for some, an unpopular choice of manager and then failed miserably to get his choice of players in ( other than loans )
We started last season without a right back and doing exactly the same this, with the added bonus failing to bring in, Simms, Lyons, Bishop and now Brannagan.
Start badly and it could get a bit toxic, hope not, but it could.
 
ste said:
Do we even have any confirmation that he was actually interested in moving?

It's the oldest trick in the book to force your way into getting a new contract.
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The money that's being paid out on making sure we've got the best qualified football and business people in charge to run the show you'd think one of them would have been perceptive enough to recognise and understand when they're being strung along if that's the case.

It's not a one-off random punt. It's three reported attempts over three different transfer windows now. And it's not like they've just moved on and signed the next one and left him behind. There was something motivating them to keep going back in.
 
Some massive over reactions here. Our club are being professional and not announcing anything until player is signed. If players are happy where they are, or prefer other places to live, then not a lot the club can do. Players are not always going to choose us, even if we've offered the higher wage. We are biased, but I am sure lots of players prefer other locations in the country.
 
Oneofthebigboys said:
Basically hes been given a contract which Oxford can’t afford, they hope with a long term deal they may get big money soon.
Big gamble as I don’t see any big hitters coming in for him, nobody else triggered the clause, so don’t see that changing any time soon?
Strange as his value will decrease over the next few years?
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whose to say Oxford can’t afford his wages? Do they have tinpot owners?
 
hertfordseasider said:
Sadler said when he took over that he had no idea how to run a football club, which is fair enough so those he employs to do that job need to be top of their game, I’m not sure they are though so he needs to have a serious think about some changes because frankly, our efforts at signing players this summer have been ** embarrassing
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You need to look at things not being a fan.

I’m like you, I think every player we go for will sign, but I doesn’t work like that. Bizarrely, not everyone is a BFC fan.
 
The fact that the guy is happy to stay in league 1 with Oxford Utd probably says everything we need to know, the fact that Karl Robinson is the manager speaks for itself.
Scum of the highest order, got a few quid in their pockets these lads that’s for sure.
KR talks shit all the time, doesn’t even know football, he’s a blagger.
 
I’m glad I don’t own or manage a football club

Horrible business - getting dicked around constantly by players and agents criticised at every opportunity by fans

By all accounts Ben Mansford is a proper grafter who lives and breathes the job

If others have different info about his work ethic so be it but I wouldn’t have thought SS is one to tolerate any indolence

The club can’t help it if players fail medicals or use us to get better deals with current clubs

You have to have a conversation if someone you fancy says they want to do business
 
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Chrisslate said:
Why? How many of our players would turn down the premier league? That isn’t how it works
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Only one I can think of from way back was Matt le Tissier. Plus Brannagan has said on numerous occasions that he's happy at Oxford and wants to stay there. Seems like that might just, rather bizarrely, be the case
 
TarletonTangerine said:
Simms - deal agreed & chose Sunderland

Cameron - release clause met, assuming he'd have known what wages we were willing to pay before travelling up

Wonder if both of those spoke to Appleton and declined the moves? Can't recall as many issues pre-Appleton (post Koko)
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Pure conjecture. As they say, never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In this case none of us are privy to what the truth actually is.
Sometimes it's better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought wise then open one's mouth and remove all doubt
 
If we truly did everything above the board, then we had to activate his release clause in order to discuss a transfer and personal terms with him. The way people are talking here, we'd been discussing the details with him for a while and then it all fell apart at the last moment.
We did it all on the up and up. Oxford went to the papers, Robinson got on the radio to complain, and now he's signed a new contract. Given that he hadn't signed a new contract before today, he has clearly used our activation of the release clause as a negotiating tool to get a sweeter deal out of Oxford than he'd been offered already.

Good for him. If he's actually happy there, he's managed to turn our approach into a better contract and still gets to stay where he wants to be.

As far as how things are done by Ben Mansford and the board, so what you like but we don't conduct our business in the press. Of our first two loans and one permanent this summer, the first any of us had heard about them was when they were announced on the club website (this recent loan from Wolves came out one day in advance). Would we all be happier if the club was feeding info to Scrafton and Nixon and whoever else so that we could get our hopes up and then be delighted when the club got those deals over the line? If not, maybe we should reserve our complaints for the journalists who air our internal business out in public.
 
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Genuinely don't know what more people want from the board.

Most people are frustrated, which is fair considering that the feeling around the fan base was so optimistic earlier and bringing in Brannagan right before the opening day would have been a MASSIVE boost.

But it seems like most people just don't know where to vent their anger to so they aim it at Mansford and the recruitment board.

What more could have been done? Genuine question?

If Brannagan had his heart set on Oxford and they were willing to pay over the odds to keep him, then what more could we have done?
 
It happens all the time in every industry….

Employee interviews elsewhere
Employee gets new job offer on better terms
Original company offers better terms
Employee stays

Also an employee is generally more susceptible to a counter offer when they have to relocate for no other reason than work.

- people need to live in the real world and understand this happens every day all over the world and not just in football.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Is he the problem, is he fit for purpose?

To be honest never really liked him, we don't like agents at Blackpool anyway (I know he's not one these days)

But something doesn't seem right

Anyway his ears are too far apart and them things he looks out of are too close

Send the fcuker back to Barnsley or Israel or Leeds or whatever other fuck ups he's been in charge of

The Blackpool way what the fuck was that all about?

I bet koko is drowing in his own piss right now laughing at us
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God ,you don't half talk shite . You rip into Blackpool F.C. in every possible way . All I have heard from the people that matter is good things about Brett and Ben . Our owner , our last manager , our last youth manager. Yet we get a clown like you that comes on here spouting about lack of transfers , poor players we all ready have , having a go at one of our new transfers and now its the backroom staff. Well nobody knows why certain players don't sign ,but what I do know is that it happens at every club and we are not special. Finally I think that you are a bloke that has a sad life and needs to fill it by writing sh't about the club most of us love. Find something else to do or at least write something positive.
 
BFC95 said:
I've defended the board a fair bit this summer, but I feel like for the first time I'm seriously questioning what's going on. We're becoming a laughing stock and the whole window is turning into a serious mess.

Let's not kid ourselves, things have felt a little toxic for a while, or at least its been simmering. The news today that he was signing gave everyone a lift, but now it's off I think that toxicity will increase more so than what it was before all this.
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The news was not that he was signing - that’s media spin - the news was that we had triggered the release clause. No signing was guaranteed , ultimately Brannagan came had a chat and ultimately decided he wanted to stay at Oxford. To me that says:-

1. He never wanted to really come here just wanted to see what we had to say.
2 He is happy playing league one football and does not have the real ambition to test himself at a higher level,
3. He is settled in Oxford, I never got the feeling even before yesterday he wanted to come - you never felt by his own comments he was pushing for a move in fact quite the opposite he was happy with his lot at Oxford.
4. He played us to get a better deal at Oxford.

So taking all that into account if a player decides in the end to stay where he is what more can the club do! What it does put an end to is this nonsense that we have no money to spend as we clearly do. Not masses of money and to be honest few clubs in the Championship are spending money on transfer fees but money to spend none the less. The club will go after other targets so it’s not the end of the world and to be honest we might look back in time to come and realise we have swerved one here and that was a good thing. Put it to bed move on to other targets who really want to come and see what happens.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Might have been an idea to ask before we wasted 3 windows on him then 😂

Let’s not be so naive eh.
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Not naive at all - he came up to talk so clearly gave some degree (and or his agent did) that he wanted to come but ultimately decided to stay we’re here was
 
Seasidedaz said:
Not naive at all - he came up to talk so clearly gave some degree (and or his agent did) that he wanted to come but ultimately decided to stay we’re here was
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If that’s the case then, our terms must be worse than Oxford and the carrot of Championship football wasn’t enough, which is a problem.

You can’t say anything other than the whole Cameron Brannagan situation has been a farce. If we knew the release clause in January we should’ve gone to it there and then, fucked off buying Owen Dale permanently and smoked out him & his agent there and then.

Mansford was an Agent wasn’t he. Can see why he’s not now 🫣
 
Seasidedaz said:
The news was not that he was signing - that’s media spin - the news was that we had triggered the release clause. No signing was guaranteed , ultimately Brannagan came had a chat and ultimately decided he wanted to stay at Oxford. To me that says:-

1. He never wanted to really come here just wanted to see what we had to say.
2 He is happy playing league one football and does not have the real ambition to test himself at a higher level,
3. He is settled in Oxford, I never got the feeling even before yesterday he wanted to come - you never felt by his own comments he was pushing for a move in fact quite the opposite he was happy with his lot at Oxford.
4. He played us to get a better deal at Oxford.

So taking all that into account if a player decides in the end to stay where he is what more can the club do! What it does put an end to is this nonsense that we have no money to spend as we clearly do. Not masses of money and to be honest few clubs in the Championship are spending money on transfer fees but money to spend none the less. The club will go after other targets so it’s not the end of the world and to be honest we might look back in time to come and realise we have swerved one here and that was a good thing. Put it to bed move on to other targets who really want to come and see what happens.
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Absolutely spot on Daz, he came for a chat decided to stay at Oxford and remains a L1 player. It’s his choice and probably agreed a much bigger contract to stay there. He probably never had any intentions to join us otherwise it would have happened so we move on from this saga and get behind the team!
 
Clearly something isn’t right, Critchley‘s sudden exit, Bishop and Brannigan both doing U turns. So what’s it? We’re a club with a great owner, we’re in the championship, we’ve just announced massive investment in infrastructure, we have fantastic fans and a new manager keen to make his mark. I’m sure Simon will want some answers.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I think we need a local in the role, an actual Blackpool fan, someone who can really sell the place, not much point having Sadler as the local community spirited owner when the CEO is an ex agent from Yorkshire. Sit down with any of us lot and we could convince anyone this was the greatest club on the planet, not sure we're getting that from Mansford.

He's had a shocking summer right from Critchley leaving.
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@Philbfctrois he would sort this shit out for you , passionate about his club and takes no shit
 
Something doesn’t sit right with this, are we to assume there was no other offers for CB ? Are we to assume he didn’t want to move to the championship because he has a pond ? Surely the problems here are with US, you just knew it wasn’t happening last night didn’t you. I think it’s time for the club to come out and tell the truth, enough of the cloak and dagger bullshit.
 
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Adams Kebab said:
Which is why I’m most pissed off I think.
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If you go back to when this sorry saga began (3 windows) it never felt right as it appeared we were almost begging him to sign for us as if he was the burning martyr! It’s obvious (to me anyway) he didn’t want to come and play for us and I’ve never got that excited about it, so we move on and get the right players in who really want to be here!
 
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