Abingdon Street Market

JJpool said:
No one said you had to live there.

Or you could enjoy the facts that's it's no more. Going to be a hotel soon.

Should have quite a nice little square inside that'll be landscaped etc.
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a hotel. not iin a million years. bates motel maybe. a run down derelict eyesore. they have been talking about that for years.
 
todayistheday said:
Thompsons contracts owned it a few years ago and had planning to turn it into a boutique type of hotel but, must of sold it on, bought for 1 million, sold for 2m.
www.placenorthwest.co.uk

Former Blackpool post office hits market for £2m - Place North West

After failing to secure £7m to convert the former Royal Mail site into a 146-bed hotel, Ashall Projects has opted to not purchase the building.
www.placenorthwest.co.uk www.placenorthwest.co.uk
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That was when the funding wasn't selected, since then the funding is now there so presumably they bought it, who knows.

Either way it's going ahead.
 
Macseasider said:
The moaning about cardless is hilarious. This is the world we live in. Get with the programme.

I haven't had cash since pre-covid. And if by chance I end up with some I can't wait to get rid of it.
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Well that's ok for you. But it's not the world we live in.
Many people still have cash, and still use it. I don't remember signing up to a cashless society - and that's because I haven't. And it isn't.

Card was used for about a third of all transactions in 2021, and I'm sure that's now increased. But........

“The UK's transition to becoming a 'cashless society' has been spoken about as an inevitability for years. However, cash remains a crucial method of payment for most UK consumers, who still rely on its accessibility and convenience and ability to budget in the current high inflation macro-economic climate.

This quote was dated Dec 2022.

In my taxi, I get more than half in cash. So it's still very popular and very relied on. However, younger folk tend to use card more than the elderly in my experience.

Given that I get paid in cash, I expect and want to be able to use that cash freely. In the vast majority of places where I spend my money, I can pay in cash. That includes shops, restaurants, bars and so on.

I've noticed I don't usually get tipped when people use card to pay. It's the same in bars, having spoken to bar staff about this. They rely on their tips to make the job financially worthwhile, but their money from tips is drastically reducing as more folk pay by card.

At the moment we have this inconsistency in how we can pay. I went down the M6 toll road and it was card payment only. Yet I went over a toll bridge down south, and it was cash only. Neither makes sense when we have such widespread use of both payment methods.

I can go to Morrison's in Cleveleys and pay for fuel with cash. Yet I tried to fill up at Morrison's in Speak near Liverpool airport, and it was card payment only. Despite there being the petrol station shop with an attendant inside. So that's the same company selling fuel in two locations where at one I can pay cash but at the other I can't. And yes, at the Speak Morrison's supermarket you can pay for your shopping with ....yeah you've guessed it.....cash!

It's inconsistent and illogical. I am not against card payments, and I pay by card regularly, but I like having the choice, and I don't on principle, like being forced or coerced into paying by card. Places that set up as card only are not being considerate to all their potential customers. Well good luck to them. We may be a more modern world, but I still think common sense and business sense applies. It's a brave (or stupid) business that sets up as card only when cash is still so commonplace. It suggest to me that they're not marketing themselves at the lower income folk, or the elderly. Businesses need to maximise their opportunities rather than limit their customer base to card-only payers.
It also suggests the forthcoming market won't be any such thing. It will be a few stalls selling higher end items rather than traditional market stalls. Unless they're going to allow the market holders to trade in cash. Which to be honest wouldn't surprise me.

I'm sure many financial institutions want to phase out cash, as it means they'll rake in more profits. Every card transaction comes with a transaction fee. These are not insignificant. If I take an airport booking which is a very competitive £150 return, I prefer cash as I get the full amount to myself. Why would I want to give a couple of quid to some card payment processor?

I'm getting my daughters some euros soon as they're going abroad. (Yes contrary to Project Fear, the planes are still flying and you can still travel freely to Spain etc ;-) ).
Do I get them euros on a pre-loaded payment card, or do I credit their UK bank accounts with Sterling so they can use Apple Pay or debit card, or do I get them physical euros? Or do I mix and match? I'm pretty sure they'll need the actual euro notes and coins in many establishments.

So as I said, it's not the world we live in, not be a long stretch, not yet.
 
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Malced said:
Well that's ok for you. But it's not the world we live in.
Many people still have cash, and still use it. I don't remember signing up to a cashless society - and that's because I haven't. And it isn't.

Card was used for about a third of all transactions in 2021, and I'm sure that's now increased. But........

“The UK's transition to becoming a 'cashless society' has been spoken about as an inevitability for years. However, cash remains a crucial method of payment for most UK consumers, who still rely on its accessibility and convenience and ability to budget in the current high inflation macro-economic climate.

This quote was dated Dec 2022.

In my taxi, I get more than half in cash. So it's still very popular and very relied on. However, younger folk tend to use card more than the elderly in my experience.

Given that I get paid in cash, I expect and want to be able to use that cash freely. In the vast majority of places where I spend my money, I can pay in cash. That includes shops, restaurants, bars and so on.

I've noticed I don't usually get tipped when people use card to pay. It's the same in bars, having spoken to bar staff about this. They rely on their tips to make the job financially worthwhile, but their money from tips is drastically reducing as more folk pay by card.

At the moment we have this inconsistency in how we can pay. I went down the M6 toll road and it was card payment only. Yet I went over a toll bridge down south, and it was cash only. Neither makes sense when we have such widespread use of both payment methods.

I can go to Morrison's in Cleveleys and pay for fuel with cash. Yet I tried to fill up at Morrison's in Speak near Liverpool airport, and it was card payment only. Despite there being the petrol station shop with an attendant inside. So that's the same company selling fuel in two locations where at one I can pay cash but at the other I can't. And yes, at the Speak Morrison's supermarket you can pay for your shopping with ....yeah you've guessed it.....cash!

It's inconsistent and illogical. I am not against card payments, and I pay by card regularly, but I like having the choice, and I don't on principle, like being forced or coerced into paying by card. Places that set up as card only are not being considerate to all their potential customers. Well good luck to them. We may be a more modern world, but I still think common sense and business sense applies. It's a brave (or stupid) business that sets up as card only when cash is still so commonplace. It suggest to me that they're not marketing themselves at the lower income folk, or the elderly. Businesses need to maximise their opportunities rather than limit their customer base to card-only payers.
It also suggests the forthcoming market won't be any such thing. It will be a few stalls selling higher end items rather than traditional market stalls. Unless they're going to allow the market holders to trade in cash. Which to be honest wouldn't surprise me.

I'm sure many financial institutions want to phase out cash, as it means they'll rake in more profits. Every card transaction comes with a transaction fee. These are not insignificant. If I take an airport booking which is a very competitive £150 return, I prefer cash as I get the full amount to myself. Why would I want to give a couple of quid to some card payment processor?

I'm getting my daughters some euros soon as they're going abroad. (Yes contrary to Project Fear, the planes are still flying and you can still travel freely to Spain etc ;-) ).
Do I get them euros on a pre-loaded payment card, or do I credit their UK bank accounts with Sterling so they can use Apple Pay or debit card, or do I get them physical euros? Or do I mix and match? I'm pretty sure they'll need the actual euro notes and coins in many establishments.

So as I said, it's not the world we live in, not be a long stretch, not yet.
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Too long. Can you just write a summary for me.
 
JJpool said:
It'll be interesting to see what route they go, as if they have cheap market retailer selling cold drinks fir a quid, where they are 2 quid in the hall.. it might undermine it.

Can probably still have the watch place people moaned about losing, a pet place, clothes, etc.
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The lady who ran the Eco shop near the Norbreck Castle was planning to take a stall last time Mrs Ska was in there. Don‘t know if she still will as she’s not been very active on her FB page since she left the shop due to high rents.
 
Malced said:
Well that's ok for you. But it's not the world we live in.
Many people still have cash, and still use it. I don't remember signing up to a cashless society - and that's because I haven't. And it isn't.

Card was used for about a third of all transactions in 2021, and I'm sure that's now increased. But........

“The UK's transition to becoming a 'cashless society' has been spoken about as an inevitability for years. However, cash remains a crucial method of payment for most UK consumers, who still rely on its accessibility and convenience and ability to budget in the current high inflation macro-economic climate.

This quote was dated Dec 2022.

In my taxi, I get more than half in cash. So it's still very popular and very relied on. However, younger folk tend to use card more than the elderly in my experience.

Given that I get paid in cash, I expect and want to be able to use that cash freely. In the vast majority of places where I spend my money, I can pay in cash. That includes shops, restaurants, bars and so on.

I've noticed I don't usually get tipped when people use card to pay. It's the same in bars, having spoken to bar staff about this. They rely on their tips to make the job financially worthwhile, but their money from tips is drastically reducing as more folk pay by card.

At the moment we have this inconsistency in how we can pay. I went down the M6 toll road and it was card payment only. Yet I went over a toll bridge down south, and it was cash only. Neither makes sense when we have such widespread use of both payment methods.

I can go to Morrison's in Cleveleys and pay for fuel with cash. Yet I tried to fill up at Morrison's in Speak near Liverpool airport, and it was card payment only. Despite there being the petrol station shop with an attendant inside. So that's the same company selling fuel in two locations where at one I can pay cash but at the other I can't. And yes, at the Speak Morrison's supermarket you can pay for your shopping with ....yeah you've guessed it.....cash!

It's inconsistent and illogical. I am not against card payments, and I pay by card regularly, but I like having the choice, and I don't on principle, like being forced or coerced into paying by card. Places that set up as card only are not being considerate to all their potential customers. Well good luck to them. We may be a more modern world, but I still think common sense and business sense applies. It's a brave (or stupid) business that sets up as card only when cash is still so commonplace. It suggest to me that they're not marketing themselves at the lower income folk, or the elderly. Businesses need to maximise their opportunities rather than limit their customer base to card-only payers.
It also suggests the forthcoming market won't be any such thing. It will be a few stalls selling higher end items rather than traditional market stalls. Unless they're going to allow the market holders to trade in cash. Which to be honest wouldn't surprise me.

I'm sure many financial institutions want to phase out cash, as it means they'll rake in more profits. Every card transaction comes with a transaction fee. These are not insignificant. If I take an airport booking which is a very competitive £150 return, I prefer cash as I get the full amount to myself. Why would I want to give a couple of quid to some card payment processor?

I'm getting my daughters some euros soon as they're going abroad. (Yes contrary to Project Fear, the planes are still flying and you can still travel freely to Spain etc ;-) ).
Do I get them euros on a pre-loaded payment card, or do I credit their UK bank accounts with Sterling so they can use Apple Pay or debit card, or do I get them physical euros? Or do I mix and match? I'm pretty sure they'll need the actual euro notes and coins in many establishments.

So as I said, it's not the world we live in, not be a long stretch, not yet.
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This is becoming serious, I agree with Malced AGAIN.

Think I must have mayo poisoning
 
Malced said:
Well that's ok for you. But it's not the world we live in.
Many people still have cash, and still use it. I don't remember signing up to a cashless society - and that's because I haven't. And it isn't.

Card was used for about a third of all transactions in 2021, and I'm sure that's now increased. But........

“The UK's transition to becoming a 'cashless society' has been spoken about as an inevitability for years. However, cash remains a crucial method of payment for most UK consumers, who still rely on its accessibility and convenience and ability to budget in the current high inflation macro-economic climate.

This quote was dated Dec 2022.

In my taxi, I get more than half in cash. So it's still very popular and very relied on. However, younger folk tend to use card more than the elderly in my experience.

Given that I get paid in cash, I expect and want to be able to use that cash freely. In the vast majority of places where I spend my money, I can pay in cash. That includes shops, restaurants, bars and so on.

I've noticed I don't usually get tipped when people use card to pay. It's the same in bars, having spoken to bar staff about this. They rely on their tips to make the job financially worthwhile, but their money from tips is drastically reducing as more folk pay by card.

At the moment we have this inconsistency in how we can pay. I went down the M6 toll road and it was card payment only. Yet I went over a toll bridge down south, and it was cash only. Neither makes sense when we have such widespread use of both payment methods.

I can go to Morrison's in Cleveleys and pay for fuel with cash. Yet I tried to fill up at Morrison's in Speak near Liverpool airport, and it was card payment only. Despite there being the petrol station shop with an attendant inside. So that's the same company selling fuel in two locations where at one I can pay cash but at the other I can't. And yes, at the Speak Morrison's supermarket you can pay for your shopping with ....yeah you've guessed it.....cash!

It's inconsistent and illogical. I am not against card payments, and I pay by card regularly, but I like having the choice, and I don't on principle, like being forced or coerced into paying by card. Places that set up as card only are not being considerate to all their potential customers. Well good luck to them. We may be a more modern world, but I still think common sense and business sense applies. It's a brave (or stupid) business that sets up as card only when cash is still so commonplace. It suggest to me that they're not marketing themselves at the lower income folk, or the elderly. Businesses need to maximise their opportunities rather than limit their customer base to card-only payers.
It also suggests the forthcoming market won't be any such thing. It will be a few stalls selling higher end items rather than traditional market stalls. Unless they're going to allow the market holders to trade in cash. Which to be honest wouldn't surprise me.

I'm sure many financial institutions want to phase out cash, as it means they'll rake in more profits. Every card transaction comes with a transaction fee. These are not insignificant. If I take an airport booking which is a very competitive £150 return, I prefer cash as I get the full amount to myself. Why would I want to give a couple of quid to some card payment processor?

I'm getting my daughters some euros soon as they're going abroad. (Yes contrary to Project Fear, the planes are still flying and you can still travel freely to Spain etc ;-) ).
Do I get them euros on a pre-loaded payment card, or do I credit their UK bank accounts with Sterling so they can use Apple Pay or debit card, or do I get them physical euros? Or do I mix and match? I'm pretty sure they'll need the actual euro notes and coins in many establishments.

So as I said, it's not the world we live in, not be a long stretch, not yet.
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I get your point but don’t agree it’s stupid to set up as card only. Taking cash increases risk of theft, mistakes being made, having to go and queue up in banks or use a night safe facility all of which comes with charges and also increases insurance cost. Not to mention number of bank branches closing.
 
Southend tangerine said:
I get your point but don’t agree it’s stupid to set up as card only. Taking cash increases risk of theft, mistakes being made, having to go and queue up in banks or use a night safe facility all of which comes with charges and also increases insurance cost. Not to mention number of bank branches closing.
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Yeah they are some definite advantages. It’s not stupid on reflection. Wrong choice of word on my part. But I think it’s a risk cos they’re alienating or putting a barrier to a certain segment of their potential customer base.
 
Southend tangerine said:
I get your point but don’t agree it’s stupid to set up as card only. Taking cash increases risk of theft, mistakes being made, having to go and queue up in banks or use a night safe facility all of which comes with charges and also increases insurance cost. Not to mention number of bank branches closing.
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Fair points regarding security, but cards cost businesses serious money too. I think its about choice, let the customer decide

Edit to add. In our retail unit, the biggest users of cash currently are overseas customers, who literally bring their money with them. Now, it may well be the Market is for locals, but it is a limiting factor.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
Fair points regarding security, but cards cost businesses serious money too. I think its about choice, let the customer decide

Edit to add. In our retail unit, the biggest users of cash currently are overseas customers, who literally bring their money with them. Now, it may well be the Market is for locals, but it is a limiting factor.
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Overseas customers might not have a UK card account so cash safeguards them against exchange rates and other charges
 
I’ve been in this afternoon. The door to right was locked with arrow to left and sign - Please use other door!!
I was however unimpressed with the whole place. It is a poor man’s Barnsley Glasshouses and certainly does not have the ambience of an evening / night eatery drinking venue. Maybe Saturday night entertainment help?
 
JJpool said:
Someone above has posted they were there this afternoon.
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Weird, people peering though the round holes in the posters on the windows, we were on Abingdon street, no sign of life at all. I was really looking forward to checking it out.
 
Matesrates said:
Weird, people peering though the round holes in the posters on the windows, we were on Abingdon street, no sign of life at all. I was really looking forward to checking it out.
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It shows you on the map, says you are here, entrance round the other side, on Edward Street.
 
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As far as the old post office goes I believe the council have to pay something like 8 million towards the cost to company the that want to buy the building and turn it into a hotel.
 
Southend tangerine said:
If only they had read the posters instead of peering through them
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It's literally right there and next to the bit people look through. Saw loads on fb saying it was closed too.

It also says there too about the 14 retailers, but yet some still said there's no stalls.

🙄
 
Seasider1 said:
As far as the old post office goes I believe the council have to pay something like 8 million towards the cost to company the that want to buy the building and turn it into a hotel.
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From the article posted further up..

They got 8m more funding so that's going towards it.

"But as part of its Spring Budget, the Government has allocated just over £200m of unallocated funding to levelling up projects, which must be spend in 2023/24."

So hopefully we see this soon.

It'll be good when done as it'll bring back those buildings, you'll be able to pass through and there should be a nice courtyard in the middle.
 
ansdellmafia said:
Fancy trying to get into Abingdon Street Market on Abingdon Street .
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Yeah, but it clearly shows where to go.

Fancy looking through the posters and not looking at the big map showing the entrance 😆

It's all empty stall spaces at that end so they don't want people going through.

Having the stalls at that end when open will mean many will pass through that way, so they'll get more trade than at the other end.
 
JJpool said:
From the article posted further up..

They got 8m more funding so that's going towards it.

"But as part of its Spring Budget, the Government has allocated just over £200m of unallocated funding to levelling up projects, which must be spend in 2023/24."

So hopefully we see this soon.

It'll be good when done as it'll bring back those buildings, you'll be able to pass through and there should be a nice courtyard in the middle.
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But why should a private company get funding from what is essentially our money?.
Will be OK if any profits go into other local projects, but we know that isn't the case.
Will just get the regular quote "This new hotel will make the area a more attractive place and bring thousands of people to the town massively increasing the local economy bollocks ".
 
JJpool said:
That was when the funding wasn't selected, since then the funding is now there so presumably they bought it, who knows.

Either way it's going ahead.
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JJ, a little tale about the GPO.
I was on the counter one afternoon, coming up to 18.30 closing time.
The guy next to me Tommy, was older, a good guy.
The cleaner used to close the front doors, which were about10/12 yards apart.
He closed one door at a minute to 18.30 as usual, and went to close the other.
Before he got there this guy rushed and came up to us. He said 'Why was that door closed before 18.30'.
Tommy just said, 'Well sir, until we gat a cleaner with a 20 yard arm span there's nothing we can do about it'.
The guy wasn't happy and continued getting annoyed. Tommy just said. 'Sir, I finish in 30 mins, if you want to finish this
argument outside I'll see you there'.
The guy huffed and left. He wasn't outside at 19.00. 😜
We used to get lots of abuse just doing our job.
 
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Seasider1 said:
But why should a private company get funding from what is essentially our money?.
Will be OK if any profits go into other local projects, but we know that isn't the case.
Will just get the regular quote "This new hotel will make the area a more attractive place and bring thousands of people to the town massively increasing the local economy bollocks ".
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The building is listed and will only fall into disrepair without the funding, probably end up knocked down.

At least this helps return it to its best and creates a better looking town centre.

It may not be what you want to hear but it's true.
 
Seasider1 said:
But why should a private company get funding from what is essentially our money?.
Will be OK if any profits go into other local projects, but we know that isn't the case.
Will just get the regular quote "This new hotel will make the area a more attractive place and bring thousands of people to the town massively increasing the local economy bollocks ".
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Government grants to facilitate regeneration have been going on since just after the war. The good thing about this is it’s a mixture of private and public investment
 
A lot of companies have moved away from cash mainly because it reduces the risk of theft from both staff and the public. With the banks closing everywhere, it has become a real problem to bank the cash as well. The downside for staff is that tipping will be reduced.
 
Danny Ocean said:
A lot of companies have moved away from cash mainly because it reduces the risk of theft from both staff and the public. With the banks closing everywhere, it has become a real problem to bank the cash as well. The downside for staff is that tipping will be reduced.
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There is a move away from cash, but has worked for a bank, the real reason is the cost of cash. It’s expensive to produce, expensive to transport and expensive to count. They’d rather do without it.
 
Matesrates said:
There is a move away from cash, but has worked for a bank, the real reason is the cost of cash. It’s expensive to produce, expensive to transport and expensive to count. They’d rather do without it.
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This. Our local bank announced its closure yesterday, the closest is now 30 miles away in a tourist area where cash is still a decent percentage of everyone' s takings. The usual excuse about not being used enough. The reality, and my boss and I called this 18 months ago, is that they have forever closed early, reduced the numbers of days open, closed at no notice, yesterday they couldn't even find the keys for the safe so could not supply change. It has been deliberately run down to justify closure. This after announcing profits 50% higher than last year.
 
JJpool said:
The building is listed and will only fall into disrepair without the funding, probably end up knocked down.

At least this helps return it to its best and creates a better looking town centre.

It may not be what you want to hear but it's true.
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The only part of the building that is listed is the front facade.
 
Southend tangerine said:
Government grants to facilitate regeneration have been going on since just after the war. The good thing about this is it’s a mixture of private and public investment
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I just think it's immoral that a private company gets public money to do something that in the long will make that company massive profit.
But then again this country loves to give foreign investors massive amounts of cash to build and run things. The mind boggles when you think that you pay a foreign country to run your energy supply and get a minuet percentage back in tax compared to what the company and shareholders get. Absolute nuts.
 
Seasider1 said:
I just think it's immoral that a private company gets public money to do something that in the long will make that company massive profit.
But then again this country loves to give foreign investors massive amounts of cash to build and run things. The mind boggles when you think that you pay a foreign country to run your energy supply and get a minuet percentage back in tax compared to what the company and shareholders get. Absolute nuts.
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IHG Hotels who own the Hotel Indigo brand who are developing the old post office and also the Holiday Inn brand who are operating the hotel at the tram terminal are a British company with hotels all over the world.
Surely any investment which improves our town is a good thing?
 
Southend tangerine said:
IHG Hotels who own the Hotel Indigo brand who are developing the old post office and also the Holiday Inn brand who are operating the hotel at the tram terminal are a British company with hotels all over the world.
Surely any investment which improves our town is a good thing?
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You could say similar about a lot of investment, brings a business to the town and benefits the area.

BFC whilst not getting the money directly, if not for the funding would have to pay itself to buy out the houses and clear the way for the east stand.
 
www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk

Colin The Dachschund heaps praise on Blackpool

Colin The Dachschund and his 70-year-old owner recently visited Blackpool and was blown away by the new Abingdon Street Market food hall.
www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk

Helping to change perceptions, even if they were the typical shite ones...

A few snippets from the article.

"A DOG with a social media persona has urged bosses of other seaside towns to visit Blackpool for ‘a lesson in high street revival’."

OK... 🤔

"In a letter to Blackpool Gazette editor Vanessa Sims, Colin The Dachschund said: “I spent the last weekend in Blackpool.

“Best of luck with that I can hear you say. Worst town in the UK full of down and outs and drug addicts I suppose. Well no is the answer to that."

...

“Blackpool has still got more to do but it has started the journey to success.

“Other towns and seaside resorts need to go to Blackpool and take a look at The Abingdon Street Market, it may be the lifeline you need.”
 
JJpool said:
www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk

Colin The Dachschund heaps praise on Blackpool

Colin The Dachschund and his 70-year-old owner recently visited Blackpool and was blown away by the new Abingdon Street Market food hall.
www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk

Helping to change perceptions, even if they were the typical shite ones...

A few snippets from the article.

"A DOG with a social media persona has urged bosses of other seaside towns to visit Blackpool for ‘a lesson in high street revival’."

OK... 🤔

"In a letter to Blackpool Gazette editor Vanessa Sims, Colin The Dachschund said: “I spent the last weekend in Blackpool.

“Best of luck with that I can hear you say. Worst town in the UK full of down and outs and drug addicts I suppose. Well no is the answer to that."

...

“Blackpool has still got more to do but it has started the journey to success.

“Other towns and seaside resorts need to go to Blackpool and take a look at The Abingdon Street Market, it may be the lifeline you need.”
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Great to read something positive about the town.
 
JJpool said:
Saw this about the whole phone debate. On the website...

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Went last night. Two stalls insisted on using the phone. This was in spite of us saying (genuinely) our batteries had gone. Not a completely beyond the realms of possibility scenario.

Also, strangely enough, the burger place said, "the council will shut us down if we allow that" (paying contactless). I said I've just ordered the missus some Indian food 30 seconds ago from the next vendor without a problem 🤡. The Cowboy gaff flat refused to take contactless payment for some chicken wings as they didn't know how much they cost - "it's all on the QR app and we don't have a menu" 🤡🤡

Tuk Tuk food was very nice and customer service spot on btw. The place as a whole is being let down by the other vendors though. The pizza place looked busy too. If we go back, we'll be trying there next.
 
We've been with Nationwide for years, however they closed the Poulton Branch a few years ago.
Have to go into Blackpool if I get a cheque etc.
 
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Matesrates said:
There is a move away from cash, but has worked for a bank, the real reason is the cost of cash. It’s expensive to produce, expensive to transport and expensive to count. They’d rather do without it.
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Haven't carried cash since I moved over to Google Pay during lockdown (Apart from a pound coin for the shopping trolley at Deepdale Sainsburys as it's so close to Dumpdale they don't trust the LillyShite fans not to steal them, and that's become less necessary since I signed up to HelloFresh. Once my forthcoming home move is done, I wont need one as Bamber Bridge Sainsbury's don't need a coin for their shopping trolleys
 
Use the HSBC at Oxford Square, up till last year always used to empty my pockets at the end of every day and save all the change. Used to bag it up take it to the bank in December and deposit it, worked out anywhere between £300 £600, sorted out my Xmas gifts.
Went in the bank last year to ask about something and noticed the counter had gone. When I enquired about it was informed nearest branch with counter service is St.Annes. Unfortunately it's the way forward all part of the new contactles and digital revolution. Eventually everything you need and your life in one place. That little box you carry around in your hand.
 
Malced said:
Well that's ok for you. But it's not the world we live in.
Many people still have cash, and still use it. I don't remember signing up to a cashless society - and that's because I haven't. And it isn't.

Card was used for about a third of all transactions in 2021, and I'm sure that's now increased. But........

“The UK's transition to becoming a 'cashless society' has been spoken about as an inevitability for years. However, cash remains a crucial method of payment for most UK consumers, who still rely on its accessibility and convenience and ability to budget in the current high inflation macro-economic climate.

This quote was dated Dec 2022.

In my taxi, I get more than half in cash. So it's still very popular and very relied on. However, younger folk tend to use card more than the elderly in my experience.

Given that I get paid in cash, I expect and want to be able to use that cash freely. In the vast majority of places where I spend my money, I can pay in cash. That includes shops, restaurants, bars and so on.

I've noticed I don't usually get tipped when people use card to pay. It's the same in bars, having spoken to bar staff about this. They rely on their tips to make the job financially worthwhile, but their money from tips is drastically reducing as more folk pay by card.

At the moment we have this inconsistency in how we can pay. I went down the M6 toll road and it was card payment only. Yet I went over a toll bridge down south, and it was cash only. Neither makes sense when we have such widespread use of both payment methods.

I can go to Morrison's in Cleveleys and pay for fuel with cash. Yet I tried to fill up at Morrison's in Speak near Liverpool airport, and it was card payment only. Despite there being the petrol station shop with an attendant inside. So that's the same company selling fuel in two locations where at one I can pay cash but at the other I can't. And yes, at the Speak Morrison's supermarket you can pay for your shopping with ....yeah you've guessed it.....cash!

It's inconsistent and illogical. I am not against card payments, and I pay by card regularly, but I like having the choice, and I don't on principle, like being forced or coerced into paying by card. Places that set up as card only are not being considerate to all their potential customers. Well good luck to them. We may be a more modern world, but I still think common sense and business sense applies. It's a brave (or stupid) business that sets up as card only when cash is still so commonplace. It suggest to me that they're not marketing themselves at the lower income folk, or the elderly. Businesses need to maximise their opportunities rather than limit their customer base to card-only payers.
It also suggests the forthcoming market won't be any such thing. It will be a few stalls selling higher end items rather than traditional market stalls. Unless they're going to allow the market holders to trade in cash. Which to be honest wouldn't surprise me.

I'm sure many financial institutions want to phase out cash, as it means they'll rake in more profits. Every card transaction comes with a transaction fee. These are not insignificant. If I take an airport booking which is a very competitive £150 return, I prefer cash as I get the full amount to myself. Why would I want to give a couple of quid to some card payment processor?

I'm getting my daughters some euros soon as they're going abroad. (Yes contrary to Project Fear, the planes are still flying and you can still travel freely to Spain etc ;-) ).
Do I get them euros on a pre-loaded payment card, or do I credit their UK bank accounts with Sterling so they can use Apple Pay or debit card, or do I get them physical euros? Or do I mix and match? I'm pretty sure they'll need the actual euro notes and coins in many establishments.

So as I said, it's not the world we live in, not be a long stretch, not yet.
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I agree with your theme but you try getting a pie or a pint at BR with cash - you can't.
 
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