AFC Fylde

Well done on your promotion Fylde. Only in that league because of terrible decisions firstly in relegating the club during covid and secondly in blocking promotion the following season. Congratulations and good luck for next season. Maybe you'll get in the EFL in 2024 instead of 2022.

I see that midfielder Nick Haughton is top scorer in the league by a distance. Last season he was pipped for the golden boot by Macaulay Langstaff, who is currently linked with four Championship clubs, has broken a stack of goalscoring records and is being talked about as a £1.5m target.

So Haughton, who isn't even a striker, has rattled up 50 goals in two seasons in a very tough league. All season I've watched the Seasiders' desperate midfield struggles while in our own back yard we have a 25 goal playmaker. Even if he scored only half the goals in tangerine, that would be more than all our current midfielders put together (Patino 3 Dougall 3 Carey 3 Fiorini 1 Connolly 1)

Maybe he doesn't want to play in the EFL after his experiences at the Cods but surely we should be showing some interest before another club steps in a la Jamie Vardy.
 
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tommytwojags said:
Well done on your promotion Fylde. Only in that league because of terrible decisions firstly in relegating the club during covid and secondly in blocking promotion the following season. Congratulations and good luck for next season. Maybe you'll get in the EFL in 2024 instead of 2022.

I see that midfielder Nick Haughton is top scorer in the league by a distance. Last season he was pipped for the golden boot by Macauley Langstaff, who is currently linked with four Championship clubs, has broken a stack of goalscoring records and is being talked about as a £1.5m target.

So Haughton, who isn't even a striker, has rattled up 50 goals in two seasons in a very tough league. All season I've watched the Seasiders' desperate midfield struggles while in our own back yard we have a 25 goal midfielder who creates almost as many assists. Even if he scored only half the goals as a Seasider he would still be top scorer. Maybe he doesn't want to play in the EFL after his experiences at the Cods but surely we should be offering him a contract before another club steps in a la Jamie Vardy.
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I just read the first sentence 🤣
 
tommytwojags said:
Well done on your promotion Fylde. Only in that league because of terrible decisions firstly in relegating the club during covid and secondly in blocking promotion the following season. Congratulations and good luck for next season. Maybe you'll get in the EFL in 2024 instead of 2022.

I see that midfielder Nick Haughton is top scorer in the league by a distance. Last season he was pipped for the golden boot by Macauley Langstaff, who is currently linked with four Championship clubs, has broken a stack of goalscoring records and is being talked about as a £1.5m target.

So Haughton, who isn't even a striker, has rattled up 50 goals in two seasons in a very tough league. All season I've watched the Seasiders' desperate midfield struggles while in our own back yard we have a 25 goal midfielder who creates almost as many assists. Even if he scored only half the goals as a Seasider he would still be top scorer. Maybe he doesn't want to play in the EFL after his experiences at the Cods but surely we should be offering him a contract before another club steps in a la Jamie Vardy.
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Don't know much about him but I would hope we're at least having him watched - any competent backroom staff would. 😲
 
tommytwojags said:
Well done on your promotion Fylde. Only in that league because of terrible decisions firstly in relegating the club during covid and secondly in blocking promotion the following season. Congratulations and good luck for next season. Maybe you'll get in the EFL in 2024 instead of 2022.

I see that midfielder Nick Haughton is top scorer in the league by a distance. Last season he was pipped for the golden boot by Macaulay Langstaff, who is currently linked with four Championship clubs, has broken a stack of goalscoring records and is being talked about as a £1.5m target.

So Haughton, who isn't even a striker, has rattled up 50 goals in two seasons in a very tough league. All season I've watched the Seasiders' desperate midfield struggles while in our own back yard we have a 25 goal midfielder who creates almost as many assists. Even if he scored only half the goals as a Seasider he would still be our most prolific midfielder by a country mile. (Patino 3 Dougall 3 Carey 3 Fiorini 1 Connolly 1)

Maybe he doesn't want to play in the EFL after his experiences at the Cods but surely we should be showing some interest before another club steps in a la Jamie Vardy.
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Agree totally with the congratulations to AFC Fylde. But with respect to Nick Haughton, despite his achievements in a league four divisions below the one we're leaving there would be no future for him at a club like ours. He's 28 now, his only league experience is four seasons with Fleetwood during which time he was out on loan in lower leagues more often than not. The Jamie Vardy comparison is inappropriate and misleading, there will be many better players than Mr Haughton available this summer.
 
Meliora said:
Agree totally with the congratulations to AFC Fylde. But with respect to Nick Haughton, despite his achievements in a league four divisions below the one we're leaving there would be no future for him at a club like ours. He's 28 now, his only league experience is four seasons with Fleetwood during which time he was out on loan in lower leagues more often than not. The Jamie Vardy comparison is inappropriate and misleading, there will be many better players than Mr Haughton available this summer.
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Haughton is 28 and in his prime. Exactly the type of playmaker we need. Let's face it, we're crying out for a goalscoring, creative midfielder who can take quality dead ball kicks.
 
Merry Andrew said:
Haughton is 28 and in his prime. Exactly the type of playmaker we need. Let's face it, we're crying out for a goalscoring, creative midfielder who can take quality dead ball kicks.
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He's done well in National League north and nowhere else. How would he cope with the toxic criticism from our fans when they discover he's totally out of his depth?
 
Hillymister said:
Two days ago there was a three division gap between Pool and Fylde now it's only one (League Two). Just shows how things can easily change in football. All successful teams have a midfielder who gets into double figures and right now Pool haven't got one. So, yes, well done Fylde and Nick Haughton.
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Two days ago there was a four division gap between us and Fylde. Now it's two divisions. Regardless of that, Haughton is playing two or three leagues below his level. I can think of eight or nine ex-Fylde players in the EFL and Nick Haughton is better than any of them. Is there any midfielder in English pro football scoring 25 a season? I doubt it.
 
tommytwojags said:
Two days ago there was a four division gap between us and Fylde. Now it's two divisions. Regardless of that, Haughton is playing two or three leagues below his level. I can think of eight or nine ex-Fylde players in the EFL and Nick Haughton is better than any of them. Is there any midfielder in English pro football scoring 25 a season? I doubt it.
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Mad how none of the 72 EFL clubs have took a chance on him isn’t it?

Even a Conference side? Wonder why?

Happy your boys went up for you though, you’ll get to see Rochdale next season 👍🏼
 
Two very good friends of ours go to AFC Fylde regularly.
They're in Croatia at the moment on a cruise for his 70th Birthday
Sent them a message about the promotion and they are very happy.
 
Well done on winning the league, though of course it should be the minimum expectation for the team with the biggest budget by far.

All the best for the National League, where Mr Haythorhthwaite’s chequebook won’t be so large by comparison.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Well done AFC Fylde a fantastic achievement great to see them back in the Conference after being relegated under controversial circumstances.

It’s nice to see a team on the Fylde coast celebrating something this year as it been one hell of a disastrous season for us. ☹️
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Welcome back Jaffa 😁
 
During our boycott, I went regularly to watch AFC Fylde, & have a soft spot for them, I went once this season, when we weren't playing, & enjoyed the facilities, sadly they lost 3 nil.

I am really pleased for them, & will continue to watch them from time to time, however I still bleed tangerine.

When inevitably we face them in the league (no one thought we would ever face the Cods) I will be wearing Tangerine!!!
But today... Well done AFC Fylde!!!!

You could say, Im a plastic Coaster 😂
 
Meliora said:
Agree totally with the congratulations to AFC Fylde. But with respect to Nick Haughton, despite his achievements in a league four divisions below the one we're leaving there would be no future for him at a club like ours. He's 28 now, his only league experience is four seasons with Fleetwood during which time he was out on loan in lower leagues more often than not. The Jamie Vardy comparison is inappropriate and misleading, there will be many better players than Mr Haughton available this summer.
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Different eras, but Tony Book left Bath City when he was 30. He joined Plymouth and 2 years later was playing for Man City in old money Division 1. It can be done.
This is not a comment on the ability of Nick Haughton, as I have never seen him play.
 
basilexile said:
Different eras, but Tony Book left Bath City when he was 30. He joined Plymouth and 2 years later was playing for Man City in old money Division 1. It can be done.
This is not a comment on the ability of Nick Haughton, as I have never seen him play.
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Totally agree there can be exceptions . What I find difficult with this kind of argument about players from leagues well below ours is the assumption that they'll do it at a higher level. 999 times out of 1000 that's not going to happen, we shouldn't be wasting time looking for those needles in haystacks. No we didn't have a player doing what Haughton did for Fylde this season, because every player we've signed like that immediately gets broken. They're more fragile than my old subbuteo men
 
Meliora said:
Totally agree there can be exceptions . What I find difficult with this kind of argument about players from leagues well below ours is the assumption that they'll do it at a higher level. 999 times out of 1000 that's not going to happen, we shouldn't be wasting time looking for those needles in haystacks. No we didn't have a player doing what Haughton did for Fylde this season, because every player we've signed like that immediately gets broken. They're more fragile than my old subbuteo men
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I understand your point. I guess the issue is if we try to sign closer to the finished article from League1/2, then budget becomes an issue. Sometimes you have to gamble. Quite frankly a midfielder that is prepared to shoot is a bonus.
 
Well done I say. Probably in the league that is their level now. I also like them because I’ve scored against them 😂
 
Well done Fylde!

A great season

It’s been said earlier but covid rules really had an unfair effect on Fylde for two consecutive years

Good luck in the conference
 
Danny Rowe was head and shoulders above anyone else in terms of goals both fro open play, pens and set pieces.

He struggled with the step up and ultimately came back down.

From conference to league is a massive step up.

Raging Bull would be best placed to comment on this subject.
 
Ginge said:
Danny Rowe was head and shoulders above anyone else in terms of goals both fro open play, pens and set pieces.

He struggled with the step up and ultimately came back down.

From conference to league is a massive step up.

Raging Bull would be best placed to comment on this subject.
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So do you think Wrexham will struggle in league 2 next season?
Or even Notts county for that matter? (Should they win the play offs which I think they’ll romp home)
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
So do you think Wrexham will struggle in league 2 next season?
Or even Notts county for that matter? (Should they win the play offs which I think they’ll romp home)
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No their both paying wages out more than most Lge 2 clubs do especially Wrexham who've a player on over 5k a week!!!!
 
poolseasider said:
No their both paying wages out more than most Lge 2 clubs do especially Wrexham who've a player on over 5k a week!!!!
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So they won’t struggle then that’s all I’m making reference to as the previous poster said the step up from Conference to football league was massive which I don’t think it is to be honest.
Look at the Conference table Scunthorpe, Yeovil, Torquay, all league clubs just a season or two ago and all about to be relegated again.
It’s a tough league the conference and some very decent teams not just the likes of Wrexham and Notts County.
 
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Danny Rowe was head and shoulders above anyone else in terms of goals both fro open play, pens and set pieces.
He struggled with the step up and ultimately came back down. From conference to league is a massive step up.
Raging Bull would be best placed to comment on this subject.
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There's hardly any difference in quality between the National League and League 2. Most clubs coming up from the Conference see League 2 as a stepping stone and many romp straight through that division. I wouldn't say Danny Rowe struggled with the step up. He did ok at Oldham and Bradford. I reckon he would have done a lot better if he'd moved up in his 20s though. His best years were spent at Fylde when he could have been banging them in in the EFL.
 
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Jaffa_The_Hut said:
So do you think Wrexham will struggle in league 2 next season?
Or even Notts county for that matter? (Should they win the play offs which I think they’ll romp home)
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No I don't think that because they were league players playing in the conference. Ben Foster is an example and both teams were, without looking as I can't be arsed, about 20 odd points in front of the rest for that very reason.

Fylde were a league below that and their players are of a lower standard as are their opponents.
Hence why they are playing in that league....simple.
 
tommytwojags said:
There's hardly any difference in quality between the National League and League 2. Most clubs coming up from the Conference see League 2 as a stepping stone and many romp straight through that division. I wouldn't say Danny Rowe struggled with the step up. He did ok at Oldham and Bradford. I reckon he would have done a lot better if he'd moved up in his 20s though. His best years were spent at Fylde when he could have been banging them in in the EFL.
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Nobody will ever know if he could have played at a higher level as he didn't.
You state the conference and L2 are hardly different in quality. Maybe at the top end where club owners gamble but generally they are not. L2 to L1 is a jump again and people are asking should we be signing this lad from Fylde.
Errmmm no.
 
Ginge said:
You state the conference and L2 are hardly different in quality. Maybe at the top end where club owners gamble but generally they are not. L2 to L1 is a jump again and people are asking should we be signing this lad from Fylde.
Errmmm no.
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32 current EFL clubs have played in the Conference/National League which suggests they don't have a problem staying up once they get out of the very competitive National League. More significantly, hundreds, of EFL players, have come from the National League. That's the normal route for promising young players.

I mentioned non-league Notts County striker Macaulay Langstaff for two reasons. Firstly his valuation is near £2m and many believe he is good enough to play in the top two tiers and, secondly, in 2021/2 he scored two goals more than Fylde's Nick Haughton, who isn't even a striker. Is Nick good enough to play in League 1? I have no doubt. Could he do a job for us? Absolutely, since his game contains everything that we desperately need. Could he score goals for us? He has 53 goals in two seasons. Scoring goals is what he does, which is clearly not what any of our present midfielders does. Would he choose to play for us? I would hope so, but he has dragged Fylde up to the National League this season and might prefer to see it through with them.
 
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32 current EFL clubs have played in the Conference/National League which suggests they don't have a problem staying up once they get out of the very competitive National League. More significantly, hundreds, of EFL players, have come from the National League. That's the normal route for promising young players.

I mentioned non-league Notts County striker Macaulay Langstaff for two reasons. Firstly his valuation is near £2m and many believe he is good enough to play in the top two tiers and, secondly, in 2021/2 he scored two goals more than Fylde's Nick Haughton, who isn't even a striker. Is Nick good enough to play in League 1? I have no doubt. Could he do a job for us? Absolutely, since his game contains everything that we desperately need. Could he score goals for us? He has 53 goals in two seasons. Scoring goals is what he does, which is clearly not what any of our present midfielders does. Would he choose to play for us? I would hope so, but he has dragged Fylde up to the National League this season and might prefer to see it through with them.
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Completely agree about Haughton he could walk into our midfield any day of the week he would have even stood out this season in a shockingly weak midfield.
Bridcutt/Stewart or Haughton kind of puts it in to perspective. 😮
 
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not sure about the step up from NL to L2… it took Fleetwood a few seasons from memory to go up and Salford bought Rooney from Aberdeen on mega wages and are still there
 
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