Alan Nixon on Jerry Yates

Blackpool_Gaz said:
If Jerry goes for anything short of silly money then my suspicions are true in that:

Simon Sadler seems to be very Oystonesque when it comes to the transfer policy at the club.
Click to expand...
Sold one player in over 3 years who had a year left and wouldn’t sign new contract
 
TangerinePeel said:
Since Nixon has started selling his rumours he has gone to pot.

Crazy to think he was more reliable when doing it for free, probably because he was only tweeting things with substance - now he charges however much per rumour so he puts out any old shite he hears.
Click to expand...
It is free. It';s in the paper like it always was, AND complete with JY pic for added authenticity
 
Ultimately, we need to be a selling club in order to survive in the league.
However, it's difficult to accept that when we struggle to get in replacements.
 
Thatseasider said:
We truly have some whopper fans.

A truly embarrassing statement, after nearly half a century of utterly shocking owner ship we get a guy that pumps millions of pounds in to merely be the ‘custodian’ of the club, dragging the club kicking and screaming into the 21st century and this is the kind of shite people level at him.

A truly embarrassing set of fans at times.
Click to expand...
I said if we let Jerry go for less than silly money. You conveniently left that part out when quoting me .

I was talking about the transfer policy, not Sadler saving the club.
 
Last edited:
fcblackpool said:
It is free. It';s in the paper like it always was, AND complete with JY pic for added authenticity
Click to expand...
I'm not on about clubs sniffing around Yates, more about Nixon specifically saying we're gearing up for a bidding war and saying we'd sell him for £5m or lower ("compromise"). How true that is I don't know, but he's making out we're willing to sell Yates which is of course getting people's backs up.

£5m would be too low IMO considering how integral he is and it being the January window. Not sure I have much faith we'd replace him either, the point of being a selling club is replacing the players you sell and we seem to be failing to do that!
 
TangerinePeel said:
I'm not on about clubs sniffing around Yates, more about Nixon specifically saying we're gearing up for a bidding war and saying we'd sell him for £5m or lower ("compromise"). How true that is I don't know, but he's making out we're willing to sell Yates which is of course getting people's backs up.

£5m would be too low IMO considering how integral he is and it being the January window. Not sure I have much faith we'd replace him either, the point of being a selling club is replacing the players you sell and we seem to be failing to do that!
Click to expand...
I understand that, but he's only making a story from what he's been told, probably from 2 or more removed people and not BFC based. Who knows their motives.

I'm not worried about Yates going.
 
Blackpool_Gaz said:
I said if we let Jerry go for less than silly money. You conveniently left that part out when quoting me .

I was talking about the transfer policy, not Sadler saving the club.
Click to expand...
If we sold Yates for 100k on January 1st it would undoubtedly be a massive mistake. Sadler and the board are not immune to mistakes and are not above criticism for their mistakes. And I’d give them pelters for doing something like that.

However, no matter what mistakes they make they never will be nor ever have been in the same universe as the Oystons.

Regardless of the scenario, to put their names in comparison is frankly embarrassing from a fellow Pool fan and an utter joke of a statement to make.

It won’t age well at all and you should hang your head in shame.
 
Thatseasider said:
If we sold Yates for 100k on January 1st it would undoubtedly be a massive mistake. Sadler and the board are not immune to mistakes and are not above criticism for their mistakes. And I’d give them pellets for doing something like that.

However, no matter what mistakes they make they never will be nor ever have been in the same universe as the Oystons.

Regardless of the scenario, to put their names in comparison is frankly embarrassing from a fellow Pool fan and an utter joke of a statement to make.

It won’t age well at all and you should hang your head in shame.
Click to expand...
So if Simon Sadler does exactly like the Oystons regarding transfer policy I'm not supposed to point that out because of the Oyston name? Don't be stupid.
 
tangerine_neil said:
We’ve signed a load of filler and crocks. The type of thing Oyston would have done. Sign 3 players for 1 position because they wouldn’t spend the requisite amount to bring in the main target. In the end, spend more. Bonkers.
Click to expand...
Need at least 2 players for every position
 
It wasn't so much the selling players that made the Oystons the worst owners in football (though they struggled to even do that , David Vaughan etc etc etc) it was a bit more than that!.

The "just like the Oystons" thing might be apt if SS starts suing fans, coming on here and belittling us, turns the pitch into a cow field, is convicted of rape, starts the season with 5 players etc etc etc.

Btw , I think Sadlers doing okay for money right now so I doubt we need to sell Jerry in Jan for financial reasons, this is almost 100% b.s

www.forbes.com

Elon Musk’s Twitter Buyout Was A Billion Dollar Windfall For These 13 Hedge Funds

Wall Street billionaires Carl Icahn, Ken Griffin, Israel Englander and Daniel Loeb can thank Elon Musk for what might be 2022’s easiest money trade.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
Last edited:
Hazi said:
The blue print from day one was buy good young talent for hundreds of thousands tops develop them and sell for millions, then reinvest said millions. The difference is SS will reinvest the said millions back into BFC rather than trouser it like O
Click to expand...
That is apparently lost on some people.

Baffling really, but if they want to believe contrary to this fair enough but to compare the two is beyond the pale for me.

But oh well it’s all there for posterity.
 
Thatseasider said:
If we sold Yates for 100k on January 1st it would undoubtedly be a massive mistake. Sadler and the board are not immune to mistakes and are not above criticism for their mistakes. And I’d give them pelters for doing something like that.

However, no matter what mistakes they make they never will be nor ever have been in the same universe as the Oystons.

Regardless of the scenario, to put their names in comparison is frankly embarrassing from a fellow Pool fan and an utter joke of a statement to make.

It won’t age well at all and you should hang your head in shame.
Click to expand...
You are just reading what you want into it, that isn't what I said at all. I WAS right about the Oystons, but then it didn't take a rocket scientist to work that out, I was just so surprised so many missed it foe so long. I am not comparing the Oyston's with Sadler at all, they are chalk and cheese. Sadler has come in and bought the club and has a vision for taking it forward. he has spent millions on improving the infrastructure and really supported Quitchley. BUT, following the surprise resignation from Quitchley he appointed Appleton, he, allegedly, was the one who really wanted him yet we had a terrible transfer window in the Summer and it is costing us now. The report, albeit from a newshound who wants readers and money, is saying that Yates could leave in January. and as I said earlier it is likely to be a load of old shit, but if it isn't and he goes in January then not only do we need to buy the players we already need but we will need a new striker, when we already need one to give Gary Madine a break.

The trouble is the January window is a terrible window to get any decent deals across the line (another reason I don't think Jerry will go anywhere) so there is every possibility we won't get the players we need, I'm certainly not expecting it and I dread panic buys which would be even worse.

I desperately want Sadler and BFC to go from strength to strength but at the moment I am not convinced Sadler is the man to do that, it doesn't matter how much money he has, if it isn't used wisely then it will be wasted and no matter how much we all thank him for steadying the ship and making many improvements if we get relegated to league 1 this season then the fallout will be massive.

I still think Quitchley has a lot to do with this and he will never be welcome back at BR as far as I'm concerned, he really put a spanner in the works with his timing. There were barely any managers available and MA was not a popular choice, but Sadler wanted him and out of the 3 managers he has taken on 2 of the were not wanted by supporters so they never had a chance and Quitchley had run his course, he did what he was paid to do and took us up to the Championship, which was a great achievement and he consolidated us in the Championship, but the football last season was a tough watch and the end of the season we were terrible. He either thought we were done so he would experiment or he knew he wasn't going to get the players he wanted in the Summer so he abandoned ship, he also never seemed comfortable as a manager and I think he will struggle to find a position again and will flounder if he does.

I just had a niggle when Sadler was named as the person who was buying the club that it wasn't right, I can't say why for sure, just a feeling I had inside and after supporting the Pool through Cartmell and the Stains it is not. surprising there are doubts there. Something doesn't feel right, Bullshit doesn't inspire me with any confidence at all and I am worried that things aren't right behind the scenes. I am worried I will be right with my feelings but as I said, I hope and want to be wrong because if Sadler can get it right then that will be fantastic, I just have my doubts.

We don't want to be looking for a new manager anytime soon either, more disruption, more time wasted. So, I didn't say what you quoted and I hope that clears it up.
 
hertfordseasider said:
You are just reading what you want into it, that isn't what I said at all. I WAS right about the Oystons, but then it didn't take a rocket scientist to work that out, I was just so surprised so many missed it foe so long. I am not comparing the Oyston's with Sadler at all, they are chalk and cheese. Sadler has come in and bought the club and has a vision for taking it forward. he has spent millions on improving the infrastructure and really supported Quitchley. BUT, following the surprise resignation from Quitchley he appointed Appleton, he, allegedly, was the one who really wanted him yet we had a terrible transfer window in the Summer and it is costing us now. The report, albeit from a newshound who wants readers and money, is saying that Yates could leave in January. and as I said earlier it is likely to be a load of old shit, but if it isn't and he goes in January then not only do we need to buy the players we already need but we will need a new striker, when we already need one to give Gary Madine a break.

The trouble is the January window is a terrible window to get any decent deals across the line (another reason I don't think Jerry will go anywhere) so there is every possibility we won't get the players we need, I'm certainly not expecting it and I dread panic buys which would be even worse.

I desperately want Sadler and BFC to go from strength to strength but at the moment I am not convinced Sadler is the man to do that, it doesn't matter how much money he has, if it isn't used wisely then it will be wasted and no matter how much we all thank him for steadying the ship and making many improvements if we get relegated to league 1 this season then the fallout will be massive.

I still think Quitchley has a lot to do with this and he will never be welcome back at BR as far as I'm concerned, he really put a spanner in the works with his timing. There were barely any managers available and MA was not a popular choice, but Sadler wanted him and out of the 3 managers he has taken on 2 of the were not wanted by supporters so they never had a chance and Quitchley had run his course, he did what he was paid to do and took us up to the Championship, which was a great achievement and he consolidated us in the Championship, but the football last season was a tough watch and the end of the season we were terrible. He either thought we were done so he would experiment or he knew he wasn't going to get the players he wanted in the Summer so he abandoned ship, he also never seemed comfortable as a manager and I think he will struggle to find a position again and will flounder if he does.

I just had a niggle when Sadler was named as the person who was buying the club that it wasn't right, I can't say why for sure, just a feeling I had inside and after supporting the Pool through Cartmell and the Stains it is not. surprising there are doubts there. Something doesn't feel right, Bullshit doesn't inspire me with any confidence at all and I am worried that things aren't right behind the scenes. I am worried I will be right with my feelings but as I said, I hope and want to be wrong because if Sadler can get it right then that will be fantastic, I just have my doubts.

We don't want to be looking for a new manager anytime soon either, more disruption, more time wasted. So, I didn't say what you quoted and I hope that clears it up.
Click to expand...
So wait a minute you didn’t say this;

“I hate to say it but I was right about the Oysters way way back, one of the first few and I have a horrible feeling I am going to be right about the present owner. I hope I am wrong, but time will tell.”

Like you say most of the fan base knew what the Oyston’s were like our faults were continuing feeding the beast until late in the day. Anyway I digress.

Ultimately if you want to now walk back comparing Sadler with the Oystons. Fine that’s up to you, but I can’t begin to tell you how wrong I think you are about Sadler because of this ‘feeling’ you have.

Honestly, and I’m not just arguing for the sake of it what leads you to this feeling.

Mansford - only really delivered success up to this point.
When you heard Sadler was the buyer, you didn’t like that? What? Why? Based on what? Did you even know who he was before hand?

And to still have that opinion now to me is frankly absurd. A promotion during the first season possible, then survival on the second lowest budget in the league.

Plans on the way to invest 30 million was it on the TG. And the completion of the stadium.

I just fail to see how you’ve arrived at any of this.

Give yourself brownie points on something we all saw well over a decade ago with the Oystons.

But you’re going to be very very wrong on this one mate.
 
Thatseasider said:
Unfortunately I don’t think that’s true anymore.

We’ve had a shite 6 months, and although small we have a worrying number of fans that think Sadler’s on par with the Oystons or is screwing the club somehow. I saw one before put something like, ‘I knew the Oystons we’re bad from the start, I was right about them and I’ll be right about Sadler’. 😳. Just what the fuck.

Whilst I don’t think it’ll remotely move the needle regarding Sadler or the upstairs management, we’re reliably informed they read this board as it represents a decent chunk of the fan base. They must just think why do we bother doing all that we do for the club when there’s people that spout this sort of shite.

I honestly feel it’s important to call them out as being completely wrong.
Click to expand...
Some people are clearly damaged by what happened and can't help but think the worst of even honest intentions.

We've seen transfer windows compared to Oyston windows, it's utter madness. SS hasn't been perfect, but there's no reason to doubt they are trying and has good intentions, deals can break down when our club has the best intentions and they can break down under our previous owners who may have had no intention.

People see it, "well they both broke down so they're same"... Just no.

It's madness, you can see by the little things SS has improved that he clearly cares, the current TG transformed, big investments on the way, we're still buying players and trying to even if we didn't have the best summer or spend the JB money. Mistakes can still be made by good intentioned people.

Any comparisons to previous owners are ridiculous.
 
Hazi said:
The blue print from day one was buy good young talent for hundreds of thousands tops develop them and sell for millions, then reinvest said millions. The difference is SS will reinvest the said millions back into BFC rather than trouser it like O
Click to expand...
Point out the reinvestment on the pitch.

@JJpool he will know the model isn't sell high buy a number in time, it's sell and buy in tandem. One cannot happen without the other. You don't carry money forward. You spend X on players and reserve Y.

Clinical evolution.
 
Thatseasider said:
So wait a minute you didn’t say this;

“I hate to say it but I was right about the Oysters way way back, one of the first few and I have a horrible feeling I am going to be right about the present owner. I hope I am wrong, but time will tell.”

Like you say most of the fan base knew what the Oyston’s were like our faults were continuing feeding the beast until late in the day. Anyway I digress.

Ultimately if you want to now walk back comparing Sadler with the Oystons. Fine that’s up to you, but I can’t begin to tell you how wrong I think you are about Sadler because of this ‘feeling’ you have.

Honestly, and I’m not just arguing for the sake of it what leads you to this feeling.

Mansford - only really delivered success up to this point.
When you heard Sadler was the buyer, you didn’t like that? What? Why? Based on what? Did you even know who he was before hand?

And to still have that opinion now to me is frankly absurd. A promotion during the first season possible, then survival on the second lowest budget in the league.

Plans on the way to invest 30 million was it on the TG. And the completion of the stadium.

I just fail to see how you’ve arrived at any of this.

Give yourself brownie points on something we all saw well over a decade ago with the Oystons.

But you’re going to be very very wrong on this one mate.
Click to expand...
I hope you're right, I really do.

There's no point spending 50 or 60 million on a training ground and East Stand if we are stuck in league 1. Of course we aren't there yet and I believe MA is the manager to keep us up if he gets some players back and we get some joy in the January transfer window, which will be difficult. We have the Quitchley and the Josh money and we may even get Josh back on loan, that would be good business, but if we fail in January and we do end up being relegated then it could take us years to get back up again and all the good work will have been undone.

I'm NOT comparing the Oystons to Sadler, I'm just saying I think Sadler isn't the right person for the long term. He started brilliantly but I am sceptical about training grounds and East Stands, it's a lot of money and we do really need them, I will feel much more at ease when we have more updates and progress. My main worry is what league we are going to be in. This next few months are so important and Sadler and Bullshit need to get it right, that is where all their attention needs to be. Letop the talk of selling Yates, unless it's for 10 million or more and in the summer. I have no problem with buying young players and bringing them on and making a big fee as I know it will go back into the club, but we have to nail some of these targets, why have we missed so many? Wages? Well we need to be able to compete otherwise it doesn't matter if we have 20 million in the transfer kitty if we can't agree terms with anyone.

Let's just say it's good and healthy having some opposing views, I may well be totally wrong, but I am not going to hide away from saying it, I want the best for our football club and I am not afraid to put my opinions over. I am not someone who is forcing my opinions on anyone and I am happy to see eveyone else's and generally most of us on here (politics aside!!) agree on most things, but the owners can't just have a free run, they need to be scrutinised too.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I hope you're right, I really do.

There's no point spending 50 or 60 million on a training ground and East Stand if we are stuck in league 1. Of course we aren't there yet and I believe MA is the manager to keep us up if he gets some players back and we get some joy in the January transfer window, which will be difficult. We have the Quitchley and the Josh money and we may even get Josh back on loan, that would be good business, but if we fail in January and we do end up being relegated then it could take us years to get back up again and all the good work will have been undone.

I'm NOT comparing the Oystons to Sadler, I'm just saying I think Sadler isn't the right person for the long term. He started brilliantly but I am sceptical about training grounds and East Stands, it's a lot of money and we do really need them, I will feel much more at ease when we have more updates and progress. My main worry is what league we are going to be in. This next few months are so important and Sadler and Bullshit need to get it right, that is where all their attention needs to be. Letop the talk of selling Yates, unless it's for 10 million or more and in the summer. I have no problem with buying young players and bringing them on and making a big fee as I know it will go back into the club, but we have to nail some of these targets, why have we missed so many? Wages? Well we need to be able to compete otherwise it doesn't matter if we have 20 million in the transfer kitty if we can't agree terms with anyone.

Let's just say it's good and healthy having some opposing views, I may well be totally wrong, but I am not going to hide away from saying it, I want the best for our football club and I am not afraid to put my opinions over. I am not someone who is forcing my opinions on anyone and I am happy to see eveyone else's and generally most of us on here (politics aside!!) agree on most things, but the owners can't just have a free run, they need to be scrutinised too.
Click to expand...
Post of 21:14!!!!
 
Forget it’s us and Jerry. How much would the top scorer in the Championship under a long contract normally be valued at?

Then reduce that by a % because his wages aren’t massive and again because we need cash. It’s still normally a number north of £10m (Olly Watkins £32m)
 
.
JJpool said:
Some people are clearly damaged by what happened and can't help but think the worst of even honest intentions.

We've seen transfer windows compared to Oyston windows, it's utter madness. SS hasn't been perfect, but there's no reason to doubt they are trying and has good intentions, deals can break down when our club has the best intentions and they can break down under our previous owners who may have had no intention.

People see it, "well they both broke down so they're same"... Just no.

It's madness, you can see by the little things SS has improved that he clearly cares, the current TG transformed, big investments on the way, we're still buying players and trying to even if we didn't have the best summer or spend the JB money. Mistakes can still be made by good intentioned people.

Any comparisons to previous owners are ridiculous.
Click to expand...
The comparison in transfer policy seems to be the same but for different reasons i.e Oyston sold our best players and trousered the cash, Sadler seems to want to sell our best players and then invest the cash in the club.

As fcblackpool said above "...the model isn't sell high buy a number in time, it's sell and buy in tandem. One cannot happen without the other. You don't carry money forward. You spend X on players and reserve Y."

If we don't replace our best players with something similar, we are going to end up with a super training ground and a shit team playing in the lower divisions.
 
Last edited:
Here we go more hysteria, apparently now it is 100% we are selling him and the board are terrible and everything is shite, do you all piss the bed every night or what.
 
fcblackpool said:
Point out the reinvestment on the pitch.

@JJpool he will know the model isn't sell high buy a number in time, it's sell and buy in tandem. One cannot happen without the other. You don't carry money forward. You spend X on players and reserve Y.

Clinical evolution.
Click to expand...
The model is to sell and reinvest, we did get Wright who reportedly cost 750k, or was rumoured at the time, not small amounts for us.

Clealrly having sold josh I wanted all the money to go back in, as if not in summer Jan is a poor window, so would have to be next summer, too late.

Unless they thought we'd be OK and misjudged it or circumstances of the deals just didn't work out.

Mistakes will have been made, players dropping out last minute when a deal looked secured, seems we really tried with Simms for eg, just he chose a far bigger club.

We do need to find a way to close deals, but reasons the deals fail can be legitimate.
 
hertfordseasider said:
There's no point spending 50 or 60 million on a training ground and East Stand if we are stuck in league 1
Click to expand...
The TG is a long term investment that will help us for decades, the plan to develop our own talent, cut injuries if indeed the current TG isn't helping, help attract the better talent with good facilities.

The east has to be done and also when you build it its for the future.

As long as we're not cutting budgets to do it, which we aren't, it's separate.

Then it has to happen and is a good thing, even if we went down it's still worth having if the money is separate.

The reason being you never know whats going to happen in football.

Imagine it wasn't built if we wmnt down, we concentrate on going back up and the East is condemned and were locking fans out, people would be kicking off then and we'd make less revenue from the limited capacity in the championship.

Its about maximising revenue and having ambition to grow the fanbase.

It’s also needed for the next stage of the club development, regardless of where we are, yes far more scope to fill it in the championship of course.

But if we started to build it now and went down you wouldn't stop and think we'll plough all that cash into going back up, we don't run like that anyway.

The projects need to happen. All that I want to see is the players sales cash reinvested, sadly we missed out in summer.
 
Blackpool_Gaz said:
.

The comparison in transfer policy seems to be the same but for different reasons i.e Oyston sold our best players and trousered the cash, Sadler seems to want to sell our best players and then invest the cash in the club.

As fcblackpool said above "...the model isn't sell high buy a number in time, it's sell and buy in tandem. One cannot happen without the other. You don't carry money forward. You spend X on players and reserve Y."

If we don't replace our best players with something similar, we are going to end up with a super training ground and a shit team playing in the lower divisions.
Click to expand...
That's not whats happening though, we tried to sign players but failed due to various different reasons. It's just a typical fan assumption that we don't want to invest in players but in infrastructure.

People then saying 'well they had no intention to spend' is complete bollox tbh, again people thinking with that oyston mindset still in their heads.

You don't make a million plus offer for someone like Brannagan, it's all going through then Oxford pull out all the stops to keep him, offering silly money. If that was the plan, the club are playing a dangerous game as it could easily go through, if their intention wasn't to spend.

So they were trying to spend, as said mistakes made, other reasons, we're not in the negotiations, it's not as easy as we think for a club our size trying to work to a budget, even though I say we just need to get some deals over the line, easy for me to say that.

We should have used the cash from the player sales, but some deals didn't happen, it's a learning curve for the club at this level to get that next level of players when not in a covid situation, thats why we were able to do so well in league 1, its back to silly season again now with far bigger clubs back in the game and we lost out a few times. We're also early in the clubs plan so our wage structure is modest for the level, in some ways this early period is the most challenging. Once we have multiple players sales in the bank we can pay decent fees and use some for wages.

It’s a disappointing summer in some ways, but I'm willing to cut the club a bit of slack, hopefully lessons are learned. Selling Bowler so late, ok thats how it can happen to maximise money, but we had to try and secure some earlier, am sure we did, but obviously didn't work out.

People call out the statement that our budget is more this season as false, because we failed to sign some we wanted, but the fact is players probably got a pay rise, some got new deals, we signed some like Wright (750k rumoured), Thompson, ended up with loans that aren't free, still cost money, we had bids for Brannagan for over a million, Critchley money only at the time it was said too, so our budget will have been higher, whether we managed to spend it is another question.

But again, the will is there, it's not easy to attract championship quality players when we're trying to run relatively within our means. It's frustrating as a fan on the outside, but it's too easy to come up with the reason as fact when we in reality we don't have the facts. The ITK people who do seem to know stuff say the club is and was offering good deals etc, doing its best.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I hope you're right, I really do.

There's no point spending 50 or 60 million on a training ground and East Stand if we are stuck in league 1. Of course we aren't there yet and I believe MA is the manager to keep us up if he gets some players back and we get some joy in the January transfer window, which will be difficult. We have the Quitchley and the Josh money and we may even get Josh back on loan, that would be good business, but if we fail in January and we do end up being relegated then it could take us years to get back up again and all the good work will have been undone.

I'm NOT comparing the Oystons to Sadler, I'm just saying I think Sadler isn't the right person for the long term. He started brilliantly but I am sceptical about training grounds and East Stands, it's a lot of money and we do really need them, I will feel much more at ease when we have more updates and progress. My main worry is what league we are going to be in. This next few months are so important and Sadler and Bullshit need to get it right, that is where all their attention needs to be. Letop the talk of selling Yates, unless it's for 10 million or more and in the summer. I have no problem with buying young players and bringing them on and making a big fee as I know it will go back into the club, but we have to nail some of these targets, why have we missed so many? Wages? Well we need to be able to compete otherwise it doesn't matter if we have 20 million in the transfer kitty if we can't agree terms with anyone.

Let's just say it's good and healthy having some opposing views, I may well be totally wrong, but I am not going to hide away from saying it, I want the best for our football club and I am not afraid to put my opinions over. I am not someone who is forcing my opinions on anyone and I am happy to see eveyone else's and generally most of us on here (politics aside!!) agree on most things, but the owners can't just have a free run, they need to be scrutinised too.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the long reply, mine might not be as substantial as it’s late and I’m old.

Look yes you can hold any opinion you want and I agree you should always have a contrarian to keep people alive to danger.

However the contrarian view here from yourself is based on literally nothing. It’s just a feeling you have, so fair enough it’s your opinion, your view - entitled to it, but what’s it based on that’s what I’m saying I can’t take it seriously when all SS and the board have done is delivered continued success. That’s the bit I’m lost on.

I really do think we’ll be fine for as long g as Sadler is the custodian of the club.

Where we probably differ is, even if we get relegated this year, it’s shite no doubt but I don’t see it as curtains for the club as it has been in the past 40 years.

We need the TG and east stand regardless of division, precisely because we’re struggling to naturally cope with the championship. We need to grow the club organically (after decades of neglect) to really compete on our own terms. The 2010 squad were in reality an aberration. We cannot count on that happening again, but if we grow correctly we could easily over the next decade/ 15 years get to where Burnley are at. It takes time and I’m happy to go for the long haul with Sadler and the team. Warts and all - not that I’ve seen too many at the minute.

You’re right though we all do want the best for the club and personally I think we’re in perfect hands.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I hope you're right, I really do.

There's no point spending 50 or 60 million on a training ground and East Stand if we are stuck in league 1. Of course we aren't there yet and I believe MA is the manager to keep us up if he gets some players back and we get some joy in the January transfer window, which will be difficult. We have the Quitchley and the Josh money and we may even get Josh back on loan, that would be good business, but if we fail in January and we do end up being relegated then it could take us years to get back up again and all the good work will have been undone.

I'm NOT comparing the Oystons to Sadler, I'm just saying I think Sadler isn't the right person for the long term. He started brilliantly but I am sceptical about training grounds and East Stands, it's a lot of money and we do really need them, I will feel much more at ease when we have more updates and progress. My main worry is what league we are going to be in. This next few months are so important and Sadler and Bullshit need to get it right, that is where all their attention needs to be. Letop the talk of selling Yates, unless it's for 10 million or more and in the summer. I have no problem with buying young players and bringing them on and making a big fee as I know it will go back into the club, but we have to nail some of these targets, why have we missed so many? Wages? Well we need to be able to compete otherwise it doesn't matter if we have 20 million in the transfer kitty if we can't agree terms with anyone.

Let's just say it's good and healthy having some opposing views, I may well be totally wrong, but I am not going to hide away from saying it, I want the best for our football club and I am not afraid to put my opinions over. I am not someone who is forcing my opinions on anyone and I am happy to see eveyone else's and generally most of us on here (politics aside!!) agree on most things, but the owners can't just have a free run, they need to be scrutinised too.
Click to expand...
We won't stay in the Championship indefinitely, at some point we will get relegated or promoted. History says the liklihood is relegation. At some point we would get promoted again and with better infrastructure maybe stay up for longer or even get promoted to the Premier league.
We need to look at the bigger picture and not be so desperate to throw money we haven't got at players who aren't worth it.
 
HodderSeasider said:
If the Nixon story is correct, then it would indicate we are already planning for life in Division 1!
Click to expand...


Or it may be that Yates's sale enables 2-3 signings to be bought that will keep us in the championship. Both Madine and Lavery have poor goals-to-game ratios, what would happen if Yates got injured we would be certain to go down if we have no other striker options.
 
Danny Ocean said:
Or it may be that Yates's sale enables 2-3 signings to be bought that will keep us in the championship. Both Madine and Lavery have poor goals-to-game ratios, what would happen if Yates got injured we would be certain to go down if we have no other striker options.
Click to expand...
It's ok bidding for 2 or 3 players, but it is another thing getting them in on the wages we offer. The last two windows have told us that. No, if Jerry goes we can guarantee League 1!
 
I think the problem here is not selling Yates but who you get to replace him and score the goals.
As was proved in the summer, not that easy!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top