He's had two very poor games and that's what people have said Nowt wrong with that. On the whole I reckon most fans like him and would pick him in their starting eleven. It's been a long season for him and the work he has to do in our midfield and added to his international duties he'll benefit from a good rest come the end of the season.Bit over the top imo.
Was poor on tuesday as was everyone else.
But I still think he's valuable to this team and has more than held his own at this level over the course of the season.
It's what happens Voy. You don't like Madine and don't think he's good enough. I don't rate Hamilton and he's not good enough. And we air those views on here. We defend the players we like, see all my posts about Bowler, and can't help ourselves when criticising players we don't rate. It's just the nature of being a football fan.It's not about replacing Kenny, for me, it's about getting players around him that do the other stuff, as td53 says. Stewart is good but only 10 games a season. Connolly is a workhorse but just destroys. Kenny has kept us going with insufficient support this season and all this criticism is unacceptable in my opinion.
Don't replace him, add to him. We've had a lot more than our moneys worth out of him. I honestly think he paces himself through games, because he okays so often and we have been so reliant on him.
We lose a couple of games and the knives are back out of the kitchen draw. Every time.
Well actually Madine has improved and I've said so. I disagree about Kenny and have simply said so, it's my opinion. The knives do come out after defeats, there is an inconsistency.It's what happens Voy. You don't like Madine and don't think he's good enough. I don't rate Hamilton and he's not good enough. And we air those views on here. We defend the players we like, see all my posts about Bowler, and can't help ourselves when criticising players we don't rate. It's just the nature of being a football fan.
Wasn't having a go Voy, just pointing out the nature of being a football fan.Well actually Madine has improved and I've said so. I disagree about Kenny and have simply said so, it's my opinion. The knives do come out after defeats, there is an inconsistency.
It's something I've been aware of for years! But not everyone reacts the same. I think we've been fortunate to have Kenny the last two seasons.Wasn't having a go Voy, just pointing out the nature of being a football fan.
so do I. He's been good for us. Others think the Championship or certainly the top end of it, is a step too far. The decision is Critchleys to make if and when that tine comes.It's something I've been aware of for years! But not everyone reacts the same. I think we've been fortunate to have Kenny the last two seasons.
We should have never let Sullay Kaikai go. Not a midfielder as such but a creative attacking player. He'd be better than CJ down the left that's for sure.The whole team needs that creative midfielder. We've got a lot of players that are perfectly acceptable players but are getting slated individually because in combination they're lacking the guile to pressure other teams.
You're preaching to the crowd here...We should have never let Sullay Kaikai go. Not a midfielder as such but a creative attacking player.
I knew you'd agree!You're preaching to the crowd here...
There isn't a choice. It's him or James out of position (no!) Connelly (not a bad choice perhaps, though not creative either,) Robson (who lost his place midtable in League one) or Virtue (who hasn't played for a year and will need easing in)I don't think he has particularly shone this season...... Although I don't think playing him after travelling round the world does him any favours at all when there is cover available
I do think he is a debatable choice at the moment though
I'm still not over him breaking down in the warm up for Northampton away...I knew you'd agree!
He's definitely the type of player we need and I hope we can find some-one similar to him or that Carey can step up. But don't think Kaikai was the answer as he was just so inconsistent and that's why he was released. There again the evidence of this and last season is that generally that's not the way Critchley wants to play hence limited opportunity for Carey earlier in the season..We should have never let Sullay Kaikai go. Not a midfielder as such but a creative attacking player. He'd be better than CJ down the left that's for sure.
Just this morning I've seen comments saying he's a "waste of space", "a top half league one player and nothing more", and a "liability".He's had two very poor games and that's what people have said Nowt wrong with that. On the whole I reckon most fans like him and would pick him in their starting eleven. It's been a long season for him and the work he has to do in our midfield and added to his international duties he'll benefit from a good rest come the end of the season.
He is a debatable choice at the moment but if we leave him out, with the current injuries, who replaces him?I don't think he has particularly shone this season...... Although I don't think playing him after travelling round the world does him any favours at all when there is cover available
I do think he is a debatable choice at the moment though
Kaikai was one of my favourite players and I was sad to see him go, but 2 goals so far this season for Wycombe suggests it was maybe the right decision.We should have never let Sullay Kaikai go. Not a midfielder as such but a creative attacking player. He'd be better than CJ down the left that's for sure.
I think he’s playing simply because this squad is just so weak in midfield.He is a debatable choice at the moment but if we leave him out, with the current injuries, who replaces him?
I agree there. Kaikai was largely misused. Or to put in less negative terms, the way he was used didn't really suit him but suited the team and Keshi has made that role his own and offers more than the Sull in that position.He's definitely the type of player we need and I hope we can find some-one similar to him or that Carey can step up. But don't think Kaikai was the answer as he was just so inconsistent and that's why he was released. There again the evidence of this and last season is that generally that's not the way Critchley wants to play hence limited opportunity for Carey earlier in the season..
Yeah, but have you seen his assist rate...Kaikai was one of my favourite players and I was sad to see him go, but 2 goals so far this season for Wycombe suggests it was maybe the right decision.
I totally agree.I think he’s playing simply because this squad is just so weak in midfield.
So Voy thinks Madine isn't good enough, while Hamilton isn't good enoughIt's what happens Voy. You don't like Madine and don't think he's good enough. I don't rate Hamilton and he's not good enough. And we air those views on here. We defend the players we like, see all my posts about Bowler, and can't help ourselves when criticising players we don't rate. It's just the nature of being a football fan.
a couple of ordinary performances, he’s been dog shit BUT i still believe he’s good enough and certainly wouldn’t be looking to offload. Needs a rest and end of season can’t come too soon for him.Dougall has basically been our midfield this season. Wintle did well when we had him and Connolly has done a job there but IMO we have missed Stewart & Ward alongside Kenny. He has been expected to be both a defensive and creative midfielder in pretty much every game he has played.
I’ll forgive a couple of ordinary performances.
no, you're just nitpicking. The point I was making is that we all have players we rate and don't rate.So Voy thinks Madine isn't good enough, while Hamilton isn't good enough
See the suble inference?
Great post. I'll just add that "attacking, adventurous uninhibited football" must include Bowler is stating the obvious.Kenny has been poor last 2 games, and that's a fact, but in his defence he has once again been half way round the world.
The team has been poor in the last 2 games and that's not Kenny's fault and he's just one of a number of contributors to a poor team performance.
The manager has been poor the last 2 games and that might have bearing on Kenny's role in the way he's being asked to play. (I remember Kenny's comments after the play off final about not been encouraged to go up for corners. Fortunately late in May 2021 Kenny Dougall he scored two not one). Maybe he needs the freedom to do that again.
I see some similarities in Critch as a Manager with Gareth Southgate. Some may see that as a compliment, others may not. I think with both of them it's always safety first??
Under Critch we've never really thrown the shackles off. (We've never even left a player on the half way for an opposition corner, god forbid leaving 2 up like Coventry did).
So if ever there was a time to do this it's now.
Apart from anything else playing attacking, adventurous, uninhibited football from now until the end of the season is far more likely to get fans putting their hands in their pockets for season tickets than 7 drab games will.
Just a few random thoughts.
I think it's certainly the case that now 2 years into Critchley's tenure a more expansive creative game plan hasn't been the priority.Great post. I'll just add that "attacking, adventurous uninhibited football" must include Bowler is stating the obvious.
I think your's is a perfectly reasonable comment because Critchy has got us into the position we are in now, which at the beginning of the season was all our aspirations with his style of football, and I applaud him.I’m not really interested in playing ‘open expansive football’ to be honest. You could just as easily refer to it as ‘tactically naive football’ IMHO.
I’m very happy with the way Critch approaches his football and trust him to deliver us increasing success over time.
BolluxWe should have never let Sullay Kaikai go. Not a midfielder as such but a creative attacking player. He'd be better than CJ down the left that's for sure.
I've consistently not rated Kenny as you know, nothing to do with the last 2 days. He's just blah, grey, peas are green sort of player, he'll always get into a league 1 side but he isn't championship quality. 2 decent central midfielders needed next season with Carey and Stewart when fit and see how Matty Virtue gets on. We have been mind numbingly bland in central midfield all season apart from when Carey played.Well actually Madine has improved and I've said so. I disagree about Kenny and have simply said so, it's my opinion. The knives do come out after defeats, there is an inconsistency.
No offence Pete, but if you're seriously suggesting 'Stewart when fit' as a plan for next season, then it's hard to take your views on Dougall with any degree of seriousness.I've consistently not rated Kenny as you know, nothing to do with the last 2 days. He's just blah, grey, peas are green sort of player, he'll always get into a league 1 side but he isn't championship quality. 2 decent central midfielders needed next season with Carey and Stewart when fit and see how Matty Virtue gets on. We have been mind numbingly bland in central midfield all season apart from when Carey played.
I’m not sure they wanted it more, so much as needed it more. We beat them comprehensively at our place and they’ll have been desperate to put that right. I don’t think we lacked any commitment, we just struggled to compete on the night.I agree Bifster.
There was a sense of expectancy on Tuesday because I/we genuinely thought we are a better team than Preston (and I still do). That made Ryan Lowe's team talk very easy and his players responded. I sometimes think the foul count demonstrates this, 9 conceded, 17 for. They wanted it more.
I'm not throwing my toys out of the pram and I was still in the ground to see how many weren't when the final whiste blew against Forest.
That still doesn't change my view that it's time to assess the fringe players and look at different formations.