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No, just stop going on about it. We know.I can afford it and i will be buying season tickets i just think the pricing wrong
Is that too difficult to understand?
No, just stop going on about it. We know.I can afford it and i will be buying season tickets i just think the pricing wrong
Is that too difficult to understand?
I agree,£30 a game works out at about 33 pence a minute ,so all the fans who leave 10 minutes early are doing themselves out off a few quid,.If fans are moaning about the prices increases wait to we get promoted it will be at least £5 increaseSteep, so I’ll buy a season ticket and it will only cost me £16 per game, which is excellent value. If I couldn’t afford £32 a game o would have to simply pick and choose my games. That’s just the way it is. There’s lots of things I would love to do but can’t afford, so I don’t do it. Just because it’s out football club it doesn’t give us the right to tell the owner how much he should be charging. Of it doesn’t work then he will have to swallow the financial burden, not us.
For the benefit of @Philbfctrois and @whiteinslough
The first is the av home attendance
Sky Bet Championship | Average Attendances | Home Matches | Football Web Pages
Live Football Scores, League Tables, Form Guides, Attendances, Latest News and other stats from the Premier League, Football League and Non-League footballwww.footballwebpages.co.uk
The second is the overall average
Championship - Attendance figures
This statistic shows the attendance of the Championship of the 23/24 season. Clubs are listed by overall attendance descending.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
Please tell me why someone would publish fictious figures?
Your attendance there included a match where you had on 50,000 and 30,000, misprints of the attendance that day. It’s simple think about how many times you had crowds of over 13,000.For the benefit of @Philbfctrois and @whiteinslough
The first is the av home attendance
Sky Bet Championship | Average Attendances | Home Matches | Football Web Pages
Live Football Scores, League Tables, Form Guides, Attendances, Latest News and other stats from the Premier League, Football League and Non-League footballwww.footballwebpages.co.uk
The second is the overall average
Championship - Attendance figures
This statistic shows the attendance of the Championship of the 23/24 season. Clubs are listed by overall attendance descending.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
Please tell me why someone would publish fictious figures?
For once I'm actually in agreement with youNot a chance fans will pay £32 for a match day ticket
Far too expensive
Membership a great idea but not everyone will get one especially fans who can only get to occasional matches or fans who work weekends
Very few people will pay the walk up price of £32
Print at home cost £2 as well, bizarre
Season ticket prices ok, but its a £30 increase in most areas at a time when people are struggling with cost of living increases, there was also a 'modest' increase last season after people had forked out on a season ticket with no games
18-21 idea is a good one but its about £80 too expensive imo
We are meant to be a community club, doesn’t look like it squeezing our own fans
The club also aren't selling East tickets which suggests the whole East will be made available for away clubs who can sell it, so we could have some away clubs having a third of the capacity thus losing any real home advantage
Will also probably mean our away fans will get rinsed on away prices on a tit for tat basis after we charge £32
So all in all i think the club have got it wrong again
Just my opinion
I agree Lala but hardly anyone charges these new prices apart from a few mainly London based so why should us?We also want quality football, promotion and the likes. Or some do.
Part of it surely comes down to the cost of running the club and paying the players. SS hasn’t got a bottomless pit, so for me it’s a balancing act of trying to please us fans every which way, and I don‘t think that’s always that easy.
No Dave SadlerYou mean Simon Sadler
Well, it is a fact more people did turn up for nothing games when it was priced lower, hardly surprising news.Again, you are assuming loads and it is just your opinion what will happen going forward.
I think you are missing the point I am making.
I am not saying you are right or wrong, as we do not know what would happen and neither do you.
The club have to act in a way that they think is best and analyse the consequences and then adapt.
Obviously they don’t agree with you at this point that your way is the best way forward.
I’ve done a few seasons when 3 of us shared 2 tickets without any problems. I suppose that technically it’s against club rules, as ST’s aren’t transferable, and some might be worried to do it and would prefer an official work-around?Surely mates can do this themselves ,draw the games out off a hat for fairness, and swap the games around if they can’t go
Nowhere near the worst facilities in the League. Do you go away? All 4 of the playoff teams are worse than us for starters and they're near the top.It is a boiling the frog problem.
The headline price rise is minor, but don't forget that this is on the back of other recent rises such as charging significantly more for seats in Block L/N.
Me and my lad used to sit by the steps right next to the home dugout. He loved being able to interact with the players as they came out, being able to hear the manager and subs during the game.
If we want to sit there (L/N) next season it will cost me £837 (1 adult, 2 kids) compared to £367 in the kiddie corner.
There's no real justification for it other than greed, especially when you factor in that we might have the worst facilities in the league.
I don't think your fellow supporters are 'moaning', it's more a case of input, debate and opinions etc.I agree,£30 a game works out at about 33 pence a minute ,so all the fans who leave 10 minutes early are doing themselves out off a few quid,.If fans are moaning about the prices increases wait to we get promoted it will be at least £5 increase
If SS reads this board then I’d be very surprisedSS has a business to run, a football club he loves and has heavily invested in. The business model for the season ahead is well thought out and balanced. It will help us to build a sustainable club with better infrastructure.
On here though, SS is being asked to factor in to the business plan that Fred in block T works shifts and might only make 50% of games. Sue in block C often works nights, so night games are a problem. Both don’t want a ST, but want cheaper match day tickets as it’s unfair. Neither want to buy a membership and keep whinging about top price tickets, that they can actually avoid paying for with a cheap membership. I’m afraid we have plenty of Fred’s & Sue’s.
Further, SS is being asked to build a model around a few hundred casual fans who MIGHT buy a ticket on the day, but won’t buy the day before or find £15 to be a member. They will though make an exception if it’s a big game or if the team is doing well.
If SS reads this board he must despair at the moaning. Even when he’s set a very cheap 18-21 ticket price he’s getting criticised. The reality is, that in a few nights out, many in that age bracket will spend the same amount on beer.
It’s £17 at my local club in the Conference and at Stockport it’s £380 for a ST.
It's pretty much a factamundo that Simon reads this board. I'd also be pretty sure in days gone by he was a poster. He's a Blackpool.fan so why wouldn't he?If SS reads this board then I’d be very surprised
Would you in his position? I think I would have a look now & again.If SS reads this board then I’d be very surprised
Not the clubs fault you have loads of kids and won’t move from North Wales. If you had transferable skills to get a high paying job in London then the price is fine. Stop blaming the club for your own deficiencies.Not a chance fans will pay £32 for a match day ticket
Far too expensive
Membership a great idea but not everyone will get one especially fans who can only get to occasional matches or fans who work weekends
Very few people will pay the walk up price of £32
Print at home cost £2 as well, bizarre
Season ticket prices ok, but its a £30 increase in most areas at a time when people are struggling with cost of living increases, there was also a 'modest' increase last season after people had forked out on a season ticket with no games
18-21 idea is a good one but its about £80 too expensive imo
We are meant to be a community club, doesn’t look like it squeezing our own fans
The club also aren't selling East tickets which suggests the whole East will be made available for away clubs who can sell it, so we could have some away clubs having a third of the capacity thus losing any real home advantage
Will also probably mean our away fans will get rinsed on away prices on a tit for tat basis after we charge £32
So all in all i think the club have got it wrong again
Just my opinion
Well thought out post but it doesn't suit the agenda of a select few. The fact remains you can't keep everyone happy. I'm happy to go with the guy who's made £millions.SS has a business to run, a football club he loves and has heavily invested in. The business model for the season ahead is well thought out and balanced. It will help us to build a sustainable club with better infrastructure.
On here though, SS is being asked to factor in to the business plan that Fred in block T works shifts and might only make 50% of games. Sue in block C often works nights, so night games are a problem. Both don’t want a ST, but want cheaper match day tickets as it’s unfair. Neither want to buy a membership and keep whinging about top price tickets, that they can actually avoid paying for with a cheap membership. I’m afraid we have plenty of Fred’s & Sue’s.
Further, SS is being asked to build a model around a few hundred casual fans who MIGHT buy a ticket on the day, but won’t buy the day before or find £15 to be a member. They will though make an exception if it’s a big game or if the team is doing well.
If SS reads this board he must despair at the moaning. Even when he’s set a very cheap 18-21 ticket price he’s getting criticised. The reality is, that in a few nights out, many in that age bracket will spend the same amount on beer.
It’s £17 at my local club in the Conference and at Stockport it’s £380 for a ST.
A very good post.SS has a business to run, a football club he loves and has heavily invested in. The business model for the season ahead is well thought out and balanced. It will help us to build a sustainable club with better infrastructure.
On here though, SS is being asked to factor in to the business plan that Fred in block T works shifts and might only make 50% of games. Sue in block C often works nights, so night games are a problem. Both don’t want a ST, but want cheaper match day tickets as it’s unfair. Neither want to buy a membership and keep whinging about top price tickets, that they can actually avoid paying for with a cheap membership. I’m afraid we have plenty of Fred’s & Sue’s.
Further, SS is being asked to build a model around a few hundred casual fans who MIGHT buy a ticket on the day, but won’t buy the day before or find £15 to be a member. They will though make an exception if it’s a big game or if the team is doing well.
If SS reads this board he must despair at the moaning. Even when he’s set a very cheap 18-21 ticket price he’s getting criticised. The reality is, that in a few nights out, many in that age bracket will spend the same amount on beer.
It’s £17 at my local club in the Conference and at Stockport it’s £380 for a ST.
No, but Brett Gerrity does and feeds back.If SS reads this board then I’d be very surprised
25000 seater stadium? Be half empty virtually every game..? Whilst costing millions…If we had a 25,000 capacity stadium some of your good ideas would be alot easier to put in place for the Club financially. Last seasons average was about 13,400. Taking account of the seats lost through segregation the ground capacity is probably not much over 15,000. So we're not far short of that.
Exactly. And some fans that no doubt consider them selves higher up in the food chain than us all because they go on a podcast or attend a meeting whining like brats about it all.SS has a business to run, a football club he loves and has heavily invested in. The business model for the season ahead is well thought out and balanced. It will help us to build a sustainable club with better infrastructure.
On here though, SS is being asked to factor in to the business plan that Fred in block T works shifts and might only make 50% of games. Sue in block C often works nights, so night games are a problem. Both don’t want a ST, but want cheaper match day tickets as it’s unfair. Neither want to buy a membership and keep whinging about top price tickets, that they can actually avoid paying for with a cheap membership. I’m afraid we have plenty of Fred’s & Sue’s.
Further, SS is being asked to build a model around a few hundred casual fans who MIGHT buy a ticket on the day, but won’t buy the day before or find £15 to be a member. They will though make an exception if it’s a big game or if the team is doing well.
If SS reads this board he must despair at the moaning. Even when he’s set a very cheap 18-21 ticket price he’s getting criticised. The reality is, that in a few nights out, many in that age bracket will spend the same amount on beer.
It’s £17 at my local club in the Conference and at Stockport it’s £380 for a ST.
Why do people keep saying this?I’ll accept that I’m a bit slow sometimes but what’s the big thing about growing our fanbase? We haven’t got anywhere to put them until the ground is developed. That is if we accept that there is already existing demand from away fans which has been previously unfulfilled. The money from more away fans is much more likely to be achieved than the potential of possible new walk-ups. And yes, we sacrifice some of the home advantage. But possibly success on the pitch isn’t the number one priority until the infrastructure has been developed to capitalise on it.
Which suggests we have to be patient for a few seasons.
But if you rang a Social Club up as a member, you would probably get cheaper drinks and as much as I don’t like £32 I get the push to get people on ST’s and memberships and to prioritise these groups.THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. And then THIS again.
It's double the price.
People of all walks of life work shifts, evenings, Saturdays and so on. Ok, there's a need to incentivise season tickets but DOUBLE?
It's really odd when you think about it. If I rung my local pub and said... Can I have a half price pint if I come for one every Tuesday, they'd say "on yr bike" If I rang up on the Monday and said "can I have a pint on Tuesday, but cheaper than it would be if I just came in on Tuesday and asked for one" they'd also say "on yr bike"
I don't get it at all other than it's an attempt to move as many people to season tickets as possible and thus have as much up front income as possible that doesn't depend on form, weather (or even pandemics...) etc.
I get this fully but from a business point of view the Club won’t look after you as much as you can’t attend every game?A lot of people work shifts and weekends, season ticket isnt working for us, we aren't lesser fans why are we charged so much more?
The average of 13.4k, thats wrong, it was just over 12k. The site using the 13k kept the incorrect attendance when we were given 50k instead of 15k.If we had a 25,000 capacity stadium some of your good ideas would be alot easier to put in place for the Club financially. Last seasons average was about 13,400. Taking account of the seats lost through segregation the ground capacity is probably not much over 15,000. So we're not far short of that.
Fair do's. (I did actually think the figures looked a bit strange).The average of 13.4k, thats wrong, it was just over 12k. The site using the 13k kept the incorrect attendance when we were given 50k instead of 15k.
We had a bit over 10k home fans most games, more towars the end of the season.
Can fit over 11k in the 3 sides and hospitality without using the empty east seats, as they are for most games.
Plenty of room to grow for now. Were not going to jump up by thousands, more a gradual growth.
Another issue for me is the question of season ticket holders who for whatever reason can’t go to a particular match. I’m pretty sure I’ll miss three next season as I did this, and the row in front of me has seven empty seats every match, yet they’re all reserved with season tickets. I can’t understand why the club don’t have a scheme which allows you to “sell” your seat for a match you can’t attend. You get a bit and the club gets the lions share.
Nobbers is upto 28 I think now, thats what we'll pay.I agree Lala but hardly anyone charges these new prices apart from a few mainly London based so why should us?
Preston, Blackburn and Cardiff all under £25 for their cheapest tickets because it has to be recindicated for us aways who went.
It ain't easy in this league clubs receiving millions in parachute payments or have thousands more who attend than us but the minute your start trying to milk the fans for these costs your doomed.
Only works when it's already a sell out and we only had a couple of those.Another issue for me is the question of season ticket holders who for whatever reason can’t go to a particular match. I’m pretty sure I’ll miss three next season as I did this, and the row in front of me has seven empty seats every match, yet they’re all reserved with season tickets. I can’t understand why the club don’t have a scheme which allows you to “sell” your seat for a match you can’t attend. You get a bit and the club gets the lions share.
That website still has our final game against Derby at over 50,000 which skews the average.For the benefit of @Philbfctrois and @whiteinslough
The first is the av home attendance
Sky Bet Championship | Average Attendances | Home Matches | Football Web Pages
Live Football Scores, League Tables, Form Guides, Attendances, Latest News and other stats from the Premier League, Football League and Non-League footballwww.footballwebpages.co.uk
The second is the overall average
Championship - Attendance figures
This statistic shows the attendance of the Championship of the 23/24 season. Clubs are listed by overall attendance descending.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
Please tell me why someone would publish fictious figures?
No i will keep on fighting the cause just like i did when we had the Oystons in chargeNo, just stop going on about it. We know.
I'd get a lackey to do it and the lackey would be told by my version of Ben Mansford "tell td53 that AVFTT think he's terrific" and I'd smile beatifically and order Critch to re- sign Sullay Kaikai and right the terrible wrong done in last close season.Would you in his position? I think I would have a look now & again.
I've been critical of it but I will say this, how hard is it foe the vast majority to secure your tickets the day before to avoid the on the day charge, most should be able to do this.There are some people with very rigid thinking on here.
The cheapest adult ST (existing ST holder renewing) at £369 is £16 per match. That’s a good price and fair, being comparable to our Prem season 11 years ago... Which says to me that getting as many STs as possible is the preferred strategy.
There are a range of price options from there up to £32. Depending on the take-up for POTG and other options, the club owner can flex his strategy. This has been our first season back in the Championship for him and he is assessing the ticket price elasticity. If the price range from £16 up to £32 does not work, he may reduce match ticket prices later in the season as the small print also says the club is allowed to run three promotional matches.
The one thing that sells extra tickets above and beyond the ST haul is the team’s performance. That is the long term aim of the TG and Academy.
If we do challenge for the play-offs, there may be plenty of people regretting not getting a ST now, as there may not be enough spare to go round if we do have another Prem season. That’s another subtle part of Sadler’s message - get your ST now so you can hold your seat to renew, because until the East is developed we could end up in a possible position where the club will not be able to satisfy demand. The new East will take a fair number of years to complete.
You did start a thread saying you were waiting to hear from from Mr Sadler to check his ambitions matched your own before purchasing a season ticket? I assume he’s satisfied your criteria?I can afford it and i will be buying season tickets i just think the pricing wrong
Is that too difficult to understand?
Told youFair do's. (I did actually think the figures looked a bit strange).
It is what it is though.
We have this argument every season and there isn't an answer that will make everyone happy.
The compromise that the Board has come up with is not perfect but not completely unacceptable.
The sad fact is that we don't actually have a huge fan base in the town.
Lots, like me, left Blackpool to make our fortune and whilst I''m not so far away I can't make it back there are many that can't.
Sorry Phil I think a true fan will pay £32 pounds,If you aren’t happy how the club is run buy your self a football team ,seeing you are a expert on how to managed a club .Not a chance fans will pay £32 for a match day ticket
Far too expensive
Membership a great idea but not everyone will get one especially fans who can only get to occasional matches or fans who work weekends
Very few people will pay the walk up price of £32
Print at home cost £2 as well, bizarre
Season ticket prices ok, but its a £30 increase in most areas at a time when people are struggling with cost of living increases, there was also a 'modest' increase last season after people had forked out on a season ticket with no games
18-21 idea is a good one but its about £80 too expensive imo
We are meant to be a community club, doesn’t look like it squeezing our own fans
The club also aren't selling East tickets which suggests the whole East will be made available for away clubs who can sell it, so we could have some away clubs having a third of the capacity thus losing any real home advantage
Will also probably mean our away fans will get rinsed on away prices on a tit for tat basis after we charge £32
So all in all i think the club have got it wrong again
Just my opinion
You can calm down too you lot overplayed your attendance 'win' this year, take off the bigger gates of derby fiver game and a few other deals and its almost the same as us.Told you
Again, your opinion on the future is your opinion - nothing more or lessWell, it is a fact more people did turn up for nothing games when it was priced lower, hardly surprising news.
It's not just me, many agree its too high who know the area and what people can afford.
Its a community club and to engage that community and make it accessible for all more often, it has to be lower.
I've given my opinion on the strategy that also other clubs manage to use effectively.Again, your opinion on the future is your opinion - nothing more or less
Still just your opinion what the future would holdI've given my opinion on the strategy that also other clubs manage to use effectively.
But as said, it was a fact the crowd did increase by a decent amount when at the lower price for the last games.
But based on facts of the pastStill just your opinion what the future would hold
I've been critical of it but I will say this, how hard is it for the vast majority to secure your tickets the day before to avoid the on the day charge, most should be able to do this.
As for the east, I would hope they could build the ne corner over a summer, which would hold 1k aprox, that would lessen the blow of losing the east the following season, starting in summer and why couldn't it be taken down in 2 stages, north half then south for eg. Not sure if its possible but that would lessen the impact massively.
That is legit, nothing against if you’ve bigger attendances than us, just pointing out the home attendances was wrong.You can calm down too you lot overplayed your attendance 'win' this year, take off the bigger gates of derby fiver game and a few other deals and its almost the same as us.
Away fan numbers from a Facebook post I think were wrong saying you were ahead.
But I'm pretty sure this one is legit.
All in all not much difference overall home or away.