Appleton - Charlton Manager

Will probably do OK in League One. Could have done OK for us last year as well in the Championship in fairness with one or two more players and a bit more luck with injuries and sendings off etc.
Not a massive fan of his to say the least though.
 
He was shite for us. Better than MM but my pet budgie could have pecked better sides with what we had. I wonder if Curbishley was available. They went downhill when they sacked him. DOH. At least they haven’t done something fukin mental like a 4 year contract.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I forgot about that gem of inspirational management.

"Coming up against good teams, we've got to remember who we are a little bit, we're not going to dominate every game of football that we play. We're coming up against top sides who are going to have spells in games, whether that's a 20 minute spell or 45 or we're under the pump for 70 minutes and have a good 20 minute spell and win the game, that's just part and parcel of playing at this level'

Charlton fans aren't very happy about the appointment.
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Yeah and he's right

We didn't dominate many games under Critchley in the Championship either

At least at Charlton he won't have cry baby fans not giving him a chance because he once played for a rival
 
Chrismalkin said:
We’re such a weird set of fans aren’t we. If you go on Charlton’s Twitter, it’s just our fans hammering him. He had an awful season with us, and he did act like a bit of a **, but just leave them to it. It’s obsessive.

Give him loads of some shit when we play them and that’s enough. It’s not always all about us.
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The Charlton fans aren't exactly jumping for joy...

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Michael Appleton Signs as Head Coach - Two Year Deal | Into The Valley Forum

Very uninspiring. Hope he does well.
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Michael Appleton - Sacked 23/1/2024 (p105)

https://twitter.com/RichCawleySLP/status/1700096175007801689
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Phil_bfc deux said:
Good manager who will do well if backed properly by their board

Never stood a chance with us
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Is he a good manager? What's the barometer here? As in the majority of his jobs he has a below 30% win ratio.

I'd say he's pretty average and an okay appointment providing it's at League One lever or lower, where he has had most success.

I'll agree he didn't get dealt the best hand with us, but he made some odd decisions. Could see it going either way with Charlton; edge of the playoffs or sacked by xmas...
 
Toastrack said:
It’s the only time he smiles….

“Yeah, thanks for asking, I‘ve always been a ManYoo fan so to play for them (twice) was a dream come true.
Sir Alex has been such an inspiration, matching his ‘chewing a wasp’ expression has been an integral part of my coaching career.
And as a coach I'll regularly rant manically at a player, "That's f***ing rubbish, Eric Harrison wouldn't stand for that and neither will I". That always gets a reaction, occasionally a positive one.
Training alongside all those great players, Becks, Eric, Brucie, Giggsy….great memories, great stories, let me tell you about the time……” 😴
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Dave Whelan’s Love Child!! 😂

“What might’ve been”
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Yeah and he's right

We didn't dominate many games under Critchley in the Championship either

At least at Charlton he won't have cry baby fans not giving him a chance because he once played for a rival
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I think the big difference is that Critchley gets on and does the job with a positive attitude and a spring in his step…. He talks things up and backs himself…

Apples was reaching for his “100 excuses for failing football managers” manual, before a ball was kicked. He literally just sulked his way through his entire time with us.
 
Must be the only footballer who's made more money out of not playing football and being sacked....
I bet he negotiates his severance package before his actual wage..

On any level in football, this man would be seen as (at best).....average.
And it's already been said.....But what the f##k does he actually say in interviews that gets him the job.

If you're looking to get out of L1.....it's not Appleton
if you're looking to ride a wave of support, expectations and players enthusiasm.....it's not Appleton
If you're looking for a team to play 'entertaining' football.....it's not Appleton

If I were a Charlton fan, I'd start a sweepstake for what date they will sack Voldemort...it's only thing to look forward to.
 
Seeing the negative reaction from Charlton fans, it brings back the appointment to us.

Just what was Sadler and co thinking there?

Add to the usual crap reaction he gets, he'd already been here and failed, left for a local rival and also is an ex nobber.

It was about as predictably awful an appointment as it gets.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Yeah and he's right

We didn't dominate many games under Critchley in the Championship either

At least at Charlton he won't have cry baby fans not giving him a chance because he once played for a rival
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Except he was full of shit, we didn't win for two months and he had no idea what to do about it except blame everything else.

Everyone gave him a chance, certainly more than Critchley this time, but we were 23rd when he was sacked. It was nothing to do with playing for PKE either and everything to do with his previous record and ** off from us after a month.
 
To be fair, I was a voice that said we needed to stick with him and that the injuries we had made the job hard and that he needed backing.. However, I'd had enough by the time I'd watched enough games with him stood passively, along with all the negative reasons and excuses for loses. As much as Holloway made some ordinary players feel like they could be world beaters and brought belief and swagger as well as getting the fans on board, Appleton was at the opposite end of that spectrum.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
To be fair, I was a voice that said we needed to stick with him and that the injuries we had made the job hard and that he needed backing.. However, I'd had enough by the time I'd watched enough games with him stood passively, along with all the negative reasons and excuses for loses. As much as Holloway made some ordinary players feel like they could be world beaters and brought belief and swagger as well as getting the fans on board, Appleton was at the opposite end of that spectrum.
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Yep, his injuries were no worse than under Critchley, but he knew what he was doing and shuffled as needed.
 
North Pier said:
To be fair to Appleton the 3-3 draws away at Burnley and especially Sheff utd last season were excellent away days. We deserved better both them games.
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I found myself watching the video posted by the club of all our goals from last season. Those first few months we played some good stuff and I remember feeling after the Sheffield United game that I’d seen enough to know that we’d actually made a good appointment.

Some couldn’t wait to turn on him as was made evident at Wigan away and once that happened there was no coming back for him. Wasn’t helped by his incredibly dull personality and his eagerness to talk us down at every opportunity, mind.

Was hindered even further by a shambolic summer recruitment job.
 
Shiggy said:
I found myself watching the video posted by the club of all our goals from last season. Those first few months we played some good stuff and I remember feeling after the Sheffield United game that I’d seen enough to know that we’d actually made a good appointment.

Some couldn’t wait to turn on him as was made evident at Wigan away and once that happened there was no coming back for him. Wasn’t helped by his incredibly dull personality and his eagerness to talk us down at every opportunity, mind.

Was hindered even further by a shambolic summer recruitment job.
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Pretty much how I saw it - that Shef.Utd away game was brilliant, even though was gutted we drew at the last kick. At that point, I thought we'd come good for the season.
 
I’ve never booed a player or a manager in my life and don’t believe in doing so. People who do boo actually do my head in. But if I’m at the Charlton game, I’ll be booing that useless, glum looking, ill-informed ** all game.
 
JJpool said:
1st message to their squad.


"Right you lot, well all know you overachieved in the past, we need to remember who we are.

Now, let's go and get some red cards"
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…and pull some hammies”
Oh and look really f*ckin miserable and emotionless all of the time and wonder why nobody is motivated….
 
JimmyHampsonEastStand said:
I’ve never booed a player or a manager in my life and don’t believe in doing so. People who do boo actually do my head in. But if I’m at the Charlton game, I’ll be booing that useless, glum looking, ill-informed ** all game.
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Make that two of us. What a day in store, Ashley’s booze cruise, giving Applehead pelters and three points in the bag ! Perfect day
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I forgot about that gem of inspirational management.

"Coming up against good teams, we've got to remember who we are a little bit, we're not going to dominate every game of football that we play. We're coming up against top sides who are going to have spells in games, whether that's a 20 minute spell or 45 or we're under the pump for 70 minutes and have a good 20 minute spell and win the game, that's just part and parcel of playing at this level'

Charlton fans aren't very happy about the appointment.
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"Coming up against good managers, I've got to remember who I am a little bit..."
 
NewburyOne said:
Not entirely but he was a major factor. Beesley as a winger will haunt me!
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That is just as bad as Connolly at left wing back.

Yes he was the wrong manager at the wrong time but as soon as Critchley left, the inevitable was going to happen. I doubt many managers would have saved us from relegation.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Except he was full of shit, we didn't win for two months and he had no idea what to do about it except blame everything else.

Everyone gave him a chance, certainly more than Critchley this time, but we were 23rd when he was sacked. It was nothing to do with playing for PKE either and everything to do with his previous record and ** off from us after a month.
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He got us to score 4 against the nobbers and 3 away at the Dingles as well as masterminding an away win at QPR for the first time in donkeys years

If he had of stayed we would have avoided relegation imo
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
He got us to score 4 against the nobbers and 3 away at the Dingles as well as masterminding an away win at QPR for the first time in donkeys years

If he had of stayed we would have avoided relegation imo
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How? We weren't exactly turning a corner under him and were second from bottom?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
How? We weren't exactly turning a corner under him and were second from bottom?
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To be fair I’m not sure whether we would’ve stayed up had we kept him but I definitely believe we would’ve fared far better than we did under McCarthy.

The board secured his long term-target (Rogers), Bowler, and Trybull. Under Appleton I think those players would’ve made a real difference. Under McCarthy they were criminally mismanaged.

To bring those players in only to sack him after the next game at Watford made no sense then and still doesn’t now, particularly when you consider who his replacement was.
 
Shiggy said:
To be fair I’m not sure whether we would’ve stayed up had we kept him but I definitely believe we would’ve fared far better than we did under McCarthy.

The board secured his long term-target (Rogers), Bowler, and Trybull. Under Appleton I think those players would’ve made a real difference. Under McCarthy they were criminally mismanaged.

To bring those players in only to sack him after the next game at Watford made no sense then and still doesn’t now, particularly when you consider who his replacement was.
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Well yeah, I agree, he should have gone before Christmas and most people welcomed the MM appointment, which goes to show what most people know.
 
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Patino and Carey in the engine room was where it went tragically wrong for him. Also persisting with it when we were getting rolled over week in week out.
The injuries didn’t help but he could have put a defender in the DM role and at least tried to block the glaring wide hole that was there every single week.
 
Threepeaksphil said:
How on earth does he get appointments, do they not check out his record?
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Because he has done pretty well outside the Championship. Got Oxford promoted from L2 and finished 8th in L1 the following
season. Took an unfancied Lincoln to the Play Off final.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
He got us to score 4 against the nobbers and 3 away at the Dingles as well as masterminding an away win at QPR for the first time in donkeys years

If he had of stayed we would have avoided relegation imo
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That must be the first time Appleton and masterminded have ever been used in the same sentence !!
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
He got us to score 4 against the nobbers and 3 away at the Dingles as well as masterminding an away win at QPR for the first time in donkeys years

If he had of stayed we would have avoided relegation imo
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We were lucky as fuck to get anything out of either gene though Phil. The knobbers result flattered us
 
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