Appleton comments on Poveda

Does he have to put a negative spin on everything?

Time for the fans to be more vocal at games on this topic, if the majority want him out. It’s the only way it is going to happen anytime soon me thinks.
 
At the end of the day we all know he was the wrong appointment, even the ** seagulls knew but somehow the 2 people who make the decisions didn't. It's like they appointed him and thought "Shit, what have we done, we better put out a condescending message out to the supporters" and then not supported him because they had fucked up (I know it's a load of shite but it makes you think!)

Had he been backed things may have been different, it is the wrong time to back him now, the supporters have had enough on the whole, the team must wonder what the fuck is going onto Sadler is in a bit of a pickle, does he stick or twist? If he sticks and it doesn't work then he will have to get rid anyway and we will be relegated. If he goes for a new manager he has to give the new person the poison chalice of an horrendous transfer window and no time to settle. To me Sadler and BB need to hold their hands up, say they have fucked up, get a new manager in and tell them that whatever division we are in they will be properly supported in the summer, we don't want to be looking for a new manager again when pre-season has started.

It's a fuck up.
 
Where's this been reported? Can't find it myself.

I'd like to read it and see what context it was in, but on face value this is another sign of a real lack of leadership on his part.

As others have said, I wasn't overly impressed when we appointed him, but I was willing to give him a chance and see what he could do, but for all the unimpressive signings and injuries out of his control, Michael Appleton the man has been far from impressive as the manager of Blackpool F.C.

I really do think the writing is beginning to be put on the wall for his firing.
 
“He was great,” Appleton told the Gazette. “He can play off both sides, he can play as a 10, potentially as an eight. He’s coming into it a little bit, a bit late for my liking but at least he’s showing now what he’s capable of,” Appleton said.

To be fair you could see in his first game that he was similar to Bowler, I’m not sure how Appleton couldn’t see it.

Let’s hope he starts on Saturday 👍
 
AngelBFC said:
Its in The Gazette

Just to give the thread a bit of balance. He preceded the comments by saying "He was great."

I'd be surprised if Poveda was unhappy with that article. MA appears impressed with him after the WC break.

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Cheers for that, swerve the Gazette as much as possible because of stuff like this.

Yes, in context it's not like the OP or Scrafton's headline portrays, its complete praise of Poveda and his efforts on and off the pitch.
It's not exactly how I'd have worded it, there's no point leaving it dangling out there, that there may have been a few issues in the past but its nothing like the sensationalised headlines or OP titles.
So, I retract my first post it seems like pretty good management and hopefully Poveda kicks on from here.
 
Just read it and, to be fair, I'm not seeing the fault in Appleton that others are seeing. Maybe Podeva has had an attitude problem that would have been in evidence at any club he was loaned to. Maybe it's something that Appleton has managed out of him. Maybe we need to read articles rather than tweets.
 
Read the OP and thought it was a comment to the player about his attitude problem he supposedly had. He's also been injured/not fit.
 
TBF to Appleton I imagine no one else here gets to see what Poveda does through the week? I certainly don't.

It's stating the obvious, but if he didn't like something from training, whatever that may be - fitness, attitude - then he isn't going to play him. As Hag says, if there's now been an upturn in one or both, then surely he must get the chance to cement it with a start on Monday.
 
That's a p*ss-poor Article Headline and reeks of click-bait, targeting an audience they know already gunning for Appleton's sacking.

Read in context, those comments are totally fair. Poveda hasn't performed well and basically flattered to deceive, up until the last two games. I've read countless similar opinions on this board from fans..... So why is it taken differently when it comes from Appleton??
The comments basically say that he's done well, he's adaptable and certainly got talent, so now it's up to him to prove why he should be starting.... It's no good performing half-match cameo roles, there needs to be consistency to gain trust.

I understand fans frustrations, but the Gazette really does't help matters. Their efforts should be with trying to unite everyone, as that's the best way Blackpool FC works.
 
People need to stop reading into every small comment.

OK some don't come across the best, some are interviews with the club translated into text for the paper.

The tounge in cheek comments don't translate the same as you hear them.

Although he does leave things that can be misconstrued a bit too much.

When you're down there people read into everything ott.

So he probably needs to be a bit more mindful of that too.
 
JJpool said:
People need to stop reading into every small comment.
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To be fair, he's in one of a very limited number of 'top' jobs in British football. It's an industry that is hyper scrutinised. It's part and parcel of why he'll be remunerated so well.

This particular piece was misrepresented, but he can't just expect to not be scrutinised, the fact is he will be, to the nth degree.

It's part of the job remit of a Championship football club he needs to be a better communicator.
 
Thatseasider said:
To be fair, he's in one of a very limited number of 'top' jobs in British football. It's an industry that is hyper scrutinised. It's part and parcel of why he'll be remunerated so well.

This particular piece was misrepresented, but he can't just expect to not be scrutinised, the fact is he will be, to the nth degree.

It's part of the job remit of a Championship football club he needs to be a better communicator.
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Yeah but sometimes things can go either way when read, but it's obvious when said what was meant.

As said he should probably be a bit more mindful of what can happen.

No need for us all to lose it over every small bit of wording though.
 
JJpool said:
Yeah but sometimes things can go either way when read, but it's obvious when said what was meant.

As said he should probably be a bit more mindful of what can happen.

No need for us all to lose it over every small bit of wording though.
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Yeh agree we shouldn't go crazy over every detail he comes out with, but we do, because we're fanatics. People like Scrafton will have to do this stuff because they have bugger all else to go on.

When you think about it there really arnt many of these jobs in the nation, maybe 50 really big ones we're at the bottom end of that but we're still part of it. Transfer his position, responsibilities and salary across to any other industry and he'd have been hauled across the coals in many of them for slips of the tongue or not explaining your position correctly.
 
Should have said “can’t believe how early Poveda has shown what he can do, normally loan players from the Prem only show these kind of skills late April/early May”.
 
Just read the article on the Gazette. If he was my boss and heard him making comments like this about me I'd completely lose motivation. All he had to do was stay positive but it's almost as though he went out of his way to put a negative slant on it. Just completely demotivating.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Just read it and, to be fair, I'm not seeing the fault in Appleton that others are seeing. Maybe Podeva has had an attitude problem that would have been in evidence at any club he was loaned to. Maybe it's something that Appleton has managed out of him. Maybe we need to read articles rather than tweets.
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This is exactly my take on it too. Maybe he has been a nightmare to manage and he’s pleased he’s finally stepping up
Too many quick to judge - we don’t have the slightest clue what’s gone on
 
Appears to be a backhanded compliment that is from our manager!
I know he likes to be forthright, but his comments may demotivate the player - but what was the context?
Personally I think any criticisms should be kept in the changing room or you risk losing the players.
I just want to see a great Poveda - we really need that right now.
 
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Without knowing anything about Poveda's personality, it's hard to say if the comments are motivating or demotivating. Not everyone reacts the same. Anyway, I'm pleased he's settled down now and look forward to some more good footy from him
 
Thatseasider said:
Cheers for that, swerve the Gazette as much as possible because of stuff like this.

Yes, in context it's not like the OP or Scrafton's headline portrays, its complete praise of Poveda and his efforts on and off the pitch.
It's not exactly how I'd have worded it, there's no point leaving it dangling out there, that there may have been a few issues in the past but its nothing like the sensationalised headlines or OP titles.
So, I retract my first post it seems like pretty good management and hopefully Poveda kicks on from here.
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yep, echo that.
 
Murphy9 said:
That's a p*ss-poor Article Headline and reeks of click-bait, targeting an audience they know already gunning for Appleton's sacking.

Read in context, those comments are totally fair. Poveda hasn't performed well and basically flattered to deceive, up until the last two games. I've read countless similar opinions on this board from fans..... So why is it taken differently when it comes from Appleton??
The comments basically say that he's done well, he's adaptable and certainly got talent, so now it's up to him to prove why he should be starting.... It's no good performing half-match cameo roles, there needs to be consistency to gain trust.

I understand fans frustrations, but the Gazette really does't help matters. Their efforts should be with trying to unite everyone, as that's the best way Blackpool FC works.
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When has Poveda flattered to deceive?

He hasn’t played has he? How many minutes are you basing that comment on?
 
Personally I prefer Appleton’s very direct and honest appraisal. Some players regularly need to be given a kick up the ar*se especially as the general consensus on AVFTT is that Appleton’s job is now on the line. Poveda has been a major disappointment so far and Appleton gets to see him every day at training. Whatever Appleton has said to Poveda may have worked as based on Poveda’s cameo appearance at Cardiff he now looks like he could be a special player who could play a key role in the second half of this season. Going back to the Critch approach I still don’t know why Bowler missed those games at the end of last season and why Stewart was given a new contract.
 
I think it’s great that Poveda is slightly less shïte.

We might get him into the ‘average’ category by the time we lose him. 😉
 
Ball on Fire said:
Personally I prefer Appleton’s very direct and honest appraisal. Some players regularly need to be given a kick up the ar*se especially as the general consensus on AVFTT is that Appleton’s job is now on the line. Poveda has been a major disappointment so far and Appleton gets to see him every day at training. Whatever Appleton has said to Poveda may have worked as based on Poveda’s cameo appearance at Cardiff he now looks like he could be a special player who could play a key role in the second half of this season. Going back to the Critch approach I still don’t know why Bowler missed those games at the end of last season and why Stewart was given a new contract.
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Maybe Critch was demonstrating to the board that we needed to keep Josh?
 
Ball on Fire said:
Personally I prefer Appleton’s very direct and honest appraisal. Some players regularly need to be given a kick up the ar*se especially as the general consensus on AVFTT is that Appleton’s job is now on the line. Poveda has been a major disappointment so far and Appleton gets to see him every day at training. Whatever Appleton has said to Poveda may have worked as based on Poveda’s cameo appearance at Cardiff he now looks like he could be a special player who could play a key role in the second half of this season. Going back to the Critch approach I still don’t know why Bowler missed those games at the end of last season and why Stewart was given a new contract.
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Don't think he's particularly direct or honest. He called the second half at Cardiff a good performance it was at best acceptable. Poveda has played what 180 mins or so of football with us and has never looked like a bad player. Who knows what goes on in training but . . .

The comment the way it is phrased just comes across as an unnecessary dig at the lad, which frankly he seems to do quite a lot.
 
Hoolahansleftpeg said:
Shocking man management there. He’s been the only bright spark amongst the dire football from the last 2 matches and he comes out with that.
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I’m finding it hard to believe that he said that but I’m sure he did as you posted it, i was split on whether he stays or goes but if that’s his style of man management the sooner he goes the better, we need praise when it’s deserved for the players to build confidence & if a particular player has a bad game then let the manager try & install some confidence, from the little I know re the olly years in the team talks that’s the polar opposite, what a mess
 
The comment is rather clumsy although the headline is surely misleading. There is no doubt though Appleton needs to work on his communication. I attended a Cheltenham game last season and read Duff’s post match comments. Incredible amount of detail as to why he did what he did. Even if you disagree with decisions this is surely helpful.

If you are a poor communicator you are liable to fall out with people. Keeping players happy and motivated is absolutely fundamental to the job. There are question marks over Appleton’s handling of Poveda and Grimshaw.

How on earth is Poveda potentially a number 8??? We are not Man City with Bernardo Silva!!! Again and again we are caught on transition straight down the middle of the pitch.

Poveda at 10 in a 4-2-3-1 could be interesting. He could combine with Jerry down the right side. On the left CJ to cross the ball for Madine and Yates and to use his pace on the counter. 2 holding players would help defensive solidity and working the ball through the thirds better. I haven’t seen all the games by any means- have we actually tried this shape?
 
Costero Poderoso said:
Don't think he's particularly direct or honest. He called the second half at Cardiff a good performance it was at best acceptable. Poveda has played what 180 mins or so of football with us and has never looked like a bad player. Who knows what goes on in training but . . .

The comment the way it is phrased just comes across as an unnecessary dig at the lad, which frankly he seems to do quite a lot.
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It’s a bit like when he was discussing Thorniley getting a new contract. Yes he did acknowledge how well he was playing but then countered it with “First and foremost, let’s make sure he continues to play well”. That about a player who has never given anything less than 100%. Maybe it’s just the way he is, finds it hard to give praise. If that is the case though and he talks to the players like this then it’s little wonder that he appears to have lost the dressing room.
 
Either deluded or has a close enough relationship with the lad that he can say that with a bit of humour and be understood. I don’t think he’s dumb enough to be the former, so most likely the latter.
 
I don't understand the problem here. Povada has come on as sub, played well when the opposition is starting to tire and is in line for a possible start. Before the world cup ,he was not putting 100% in and needed to earn his place . Appleton has decided to let the fans know what's happening and this is bad ,WHY?

This sounds like good management to me and how people know what's happening with players on the training ground baffles me . In my eyes this is good management and I haven't a clue how the Anti Appletons can make this an arguement in their favour.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
I don't understand the problem here. Povada has come on as sub, played well when the opposition is starting to tire and is in line for a possible start. Before the world cup ,he was not putting 100% in and needed to earn his place . Appleton has decided to let the fans know what's happening and this is bad ,WHY?

This sounds like good management to me and how people know what's happening with players on the training ground baffles me . In my eyes this is good management and I haven't a clue how the Anti Appletons can make this an arguement in their favour.
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Fully agree but some want the manager sacked irrespective of what happens in the coming weeks, the next 3 games are tough, I would be more than happy with 4 points from those games.
 
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