Beatles new record- Thoughts!

Graves said:
That’s fair enough- I think the ‘AI’ term mislead me a bit at first. It’s basically just a very advanced post production technique.

Agree re the 60s stuff. The white album was massively iconic and ahead of its time. I got it for about 2 pounds a long time ago in good condition. Even listening to it today I can hear how many modern artists it has influenced. Great stuff.
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I like the late 60's stuff, but this is very much a S, A & W type record.

The song is more about what it is, rather than the content, which I find a bit perverse.

I did have a lot (well a few) of early Beatles singles, the ones with no middles, no idea where they are though. Not like me to get rid of vinyl.
 
fcblackpool said:
I like the late 60's stuff, but this is very much a S, A & W type record.

The song is more about what it is, rather than the content, which I find a bit perverse.

I did have a lot (well a few) of early Beatles singles, the ones with no middles, no idea where they are though. Not like me to get rid of vinyl.
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I know what you mean. I believe 66 said on here that it’s selling for 18 quid as well... bit steep for a single!? Says it all really.

The singles with no middles you have were like that because they were from a jukebox machine!

Most of mine I inherited from my mum, she’s the one who gave me my first Beatles record and I’ve listened ever since. I tend to go back and forth from the late 60s to the middle. Rubber soul is missing from my collection.
 
I'm always highly suspicious of anyone that doesn't like a single Beatles song - shows they're a bit musically defective/inadequate.

As I said on the other thread on this, I'm not sure what people were expecting from a demo done 50 years ago. I think they've done a great job with it - got me a bit emotional, and it stands up as a song against modern bands with a similar feel.
 
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I've heard it once and thought it was quite good. As I understand it's a 1978 demo by Lennon... so the marketing people have turned in to a Beatles song....
 
As I said on the other side, I was never a Beatles fan, more Rolling Stones, but over the years have come to like a lot of their music. This, however, doesn't do anything for me, rather mournful.
 
The tape recorded demo of John playing it in his New York apartment in the 70s is better than the final version will all the extra stuff added to it.

The original demo actually sounds quite emotional and not over produced
 
Curryman said:
As I said on the other side, I was never a Beatles fan, more Rolling Stones, but over the years have come to like a lot of their music. This, however, doesn't do anything for me, rather mournful.
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Have you listened to the Stones new album Hackney Diamonds, it surprised me pleasantly?
 
Sounds like a Lennon album track. Harrison’s guitars more colouring than soloing and Starrs drumming sounds nothing like how he drummed in the band. McCartney keeping a fairly low profile.

It’s a nice enough song and a fitting bookend
 
For anyone interested, this is how they did it - this guy is great at breaking down songs and techniques- he sums up really well at the end what he thinks of the track, I agree mostly;
 
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Ginge 2 said:
And what's your gift to the world?

Honestly, such a completely ridiculous and I'll thought out post with literally no vindication of subject content.
It just shows your complete lack of any kind of talent and your absolute ignorance.
A lazy effort to bring attention to yourself, a nobody.
👏 well done for your inadequate life.

You bring nothing to the table.......
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Here's something for the table...... it's shit, that's my opinion. Hope it makes loads for charity but it is still a poor song. If anyone else had recorded it. it would have disappeared without trace. Oh and our post was ridiculously over the top and actually made me laugh out loud!
 
hertfordseasider said:
Here's something for the table...... it's shit, that's my opinion. Hope it makes loads for charity but it is still a poor song. If anyone else had recorded it. it would have disappeared without trace. Oh and our post was ridiculously over the top and actually made me laugh out loud!
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You're not just clueless about football then?🤣
 
It’s a dreary dirge and a stain on The Beatles legacy….they were massively overrated anyway. Stones were in a different League. Lennon getting led around by his Tallywacker by that little Vietnamese women whoever she was ..pathetic
 
Bloodtangerine said:
It’s a dreary dirge and a stain on The Beatles legacy….they were massively overrated anyway. Stones were in a different League. Lennon getting led around by his Tallywacker by that little Vietnamese women whoever she was ..pathetic
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Some really negative comments from the usual miseries on here who think they are experts and know sod all.
I remember when I heard “Strawberry Fields forever” for the first time. Bloody awful I thought.
Anyone who says overated should give their heads a wobble. Just look at their C/V.
The Stones are good but sorry they are not in the same league.
 
GrahamwantshisOates said:
Some really negative comments from the usual miseries on here who think they are experts and know sod all.
I remember when I heard “Strawberry Fields forever” for the first time. Bloody awful I thought.
Anyone who says overated should give their heads a wobble. Just look at their C/V.
The Stones are good but sorry they are not in the same league.
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Agreed- some people clearly don’t have a very good musical ear.
Lennon and McCartney/Beatles will be looked on as musical greats in the same way Mozart etc are in years to come when they’re all dead.
 
Sooty59 said:
Last singles I can remember the price of were about 45p in 1973 easy to remember 1p per RPM :) so using a 1973-now calculator that would be about £6.71 which does make £18 steep even for charity.😂
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I've grown up in the digital generation of music, CD's were even on the way out when I was a kid.

Big lover of older music, and album artwork and all that so I got well into the vinyl revival. The price of vinyl is ridiculous at the minute, I looked at getting The Joshua Tree (modern pressing) and it was about £40 to £50. It's an album that was released 10 years before I was born ffs!

I hope with the price of them going up doesn't kill the revival. I have Spotify and all that as well but you're renting the music off a corporation, doesn't compare to physically owning albums. Being able to hold it in your hands creates more of a connection as it's literally there and you own it. I think it's why my generation and younger aren't into music as much because it's too accessible and as a consequence feels less important.

As you say, £18 for a 7" is madness. The industry needs to start working to bring the price down otherwise they'll shoot themselves in the foot.
 
It might be average but comments dismissing their entire body of work on here is ridiculous. The band was groundbreaking beyond belief and most of what followed in the 70s, 80s and 90s owed them a debt of gratitude.

I don’t like everything they did but the breadth of their work and the transformation was astonishing. Credit where credit is due.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I just had a listen to that Johnny Cash thing... I'm not convinced at all by that at all... It's not that it doesn't sound like Johnny Cash, because it is really incredibly accurate, but it doesn't feel anything like Johnny Cash... It lacks the depth and expression in the voice, the rich tone... It's just nothing like him really.
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Been working with a company who's internal design team have insisted on using ai instead of photoshoots, and you can tell it's AI. Lots and lots of detail, usually too much which makes it stand out as fake.
 
GrahamwantshisOates said:
Some really negative comments from the usual miseries on here who think they are experts and know sod all.
I remember when I heard “Strawberry Fields forever” for the first time. Bloody awful I thought.
Anyone who says overated should give their heads a wobble. Just look at their C/V.
The Stones are good but sorry they are not in the same league.
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So obviously there's no such thing as 'each to their own' in your book? How sad and blinkered you appear.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
Been working with a company who's internal design team have insisted on using ai instead of photoshoots, and you can tell it's AI. Lots and lots of detail, usually too much which makes it stand out as fake.
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To be honest, I get the same thing when I watch a HD movie. The extra detail almost enhances the fakeness.

It’s almost like you can see it’s a movie set.
 
TangerinePeel said:
I've grown up in the digital generation of music, CD's were even on the way out when I was a kid.

Big lover of older music, and album artwork and all that so I got well into the vinyl revival. The price of vinyl is ridiculous at the minute, I looked at getting The Joshua Tree (modern pressing) and it was about £40 to £50. It's an album that was released 10 years before I was born ffs!

I hope with the price of them going up doesn't kill the revival. I have Spotify and all that as well but you're renting the music off a corporation, doesn't compare to physically owning albums. Being able to hold it in your hands creates more of a connection as it's literally there and you own it. I think it's why my generation and younger aren't into music as much because it's too accessible and as a consequence feels less important.

As you say, £18 for a 7" is madness. The industry needs to start working to bring the price down otherwise they'll shoot themselves in the foot.
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I’m obviously much older than you & I can’t part with my vinyl even though my deck isn’t compatible with my modern music system although I could get a usb deck & plug it in & I may just do that. I do use Spotify but as soon as I stop paying the subs my collection will disappear. So as you say there’s something to actually owing a physical thing. CDs weren’t quite the same as an album with all the artwork etc especially those that opened out. I don’t know if the price’s of vinyl will drop or it will remain a niche market. PS The Joshua Tree was a cracking album 😃
 
Sooty59 said:
I’m obviously much older than you & I can’t part with my vinyl even though my deck isn’t compatible with my modern music system although I could get a usb deck & plug it in & I may just do that. I do use Spotify but as soon as I stop paying the subs my collection will disappear. So as you say there’s something to actually owing a physical thing. CDs weren’t quite the same as an album with all the artwork etc especially those that opened out. I don’t know if the price’s of vinyl will drop or it will remain a niche market. PS The Joshua Tree was a cracking album 😃
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I have over 300 vinyl albums,3 years ago for christmas wife bought me a bluetooth deck and bose speaker now i play on average 2 albums a day.
 
boabthebetter said:
So obviously there's no such thing as 'each to their own' in your book? How sad and blinkered you appear.
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No just stating facts.
The Stones v Beatles is like comparing Arsenal v Liverpool over the last 60 years.
Both successful but in terms of trophies v record sales/ songwriting, there is no comparison.
 
GrahamwantshisOates said:
No just stating facts.
The Stones v Beatles is like comparing Arsenal v Liverpool over the last 60 years.
Both successful but in terms of trophies v record sales/ songwriting, there is no comparison.
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Oh in that case let's all support Man City, listen to Adele and Ed Sheeran. Stuff individual likes and dislikes...

As I said previously...blinkered!
 
It’s a bit of a yawn innit, if it didn’t have the The Beatles name attached it wouldn’t get a second look.

They did some great stuff in their time but that was over fifty years ago.

Strummer and Jones were my Lennon and McCartney.
 
Graves said:
I know what you mean. I believe 66 said on here that it’s selling for 18 quid as well... bit steep for a single!? Says it all really.

The singles with no middles you have were like that because they were from a jukebox machine!

Most of mine I inherited from my mum, she’s the one who gave me my first Beatles record and I’ve listened ever since. I tend to go back and forth from the late 60s to the middle. Rubber soul is missing from my collection.
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You need to get Rubber Soul. It's an excellent album. It contains two of my favourite McCartney songs: You Won't See Me and I'm Looking Through You. Neither has massive exposure but they showcase him at his best.
Meanwhile Lennon weighs in with two of his masterpieces: Norwegian Wood and Girl.
 
AlternativeSeaside said:
It’s a bit of a yawn innit, if it didn’t have the The Beatles name attached it wouldn’t get a second look.

They did some great stuff in their time but that was over fifty years ago.

Strummer and Jones were my Lennon and McCartney.
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Fair enough re' your preference for Strummer and Jones. For me, The Beatles have always been the pinnacle. I have now listened to the new song a couple of times and I'm happy with the way it's been made. Of course, if Lennon really rated it highly it would have been released on Double Fantasy, or even on the follow up he was working on - released by Yoko as Milk and Honey. That it didn't suggests that he'd put it aside.
 
THEMISSINGLINK said:
I have over 300 vinyl albums,3 years ago for christmas wife bought me a bluetooth deck and bose speaker now i play on average 2 albums a day.
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I tend to listen to albums by uploading CDs to my laptop then playing them through a blue-tooth speaker. My singles, however, are reserved for my record-player then blasted out through a pair of B&W speakers.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Fair enough re' your preference for Strummer and Jones. For me, The Beatles have always been the pinnacle. I have now listened to the new song a couple of times and I'm happy with the way it's been made. Of course, if Lennon really rated it highly it would have been released on Double Fantasy, or even on the follow up he was working on - released by Yoko as Milk and Honey. That it didn't suggests that he'd put it aside.
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So I’m now thinking if The Clash did something similar would I be into it or not, I would obviously be interested as I am in this “Beatles” offering. It would obviously depend on the quality of the music but I tend to think of these things as that was then and this is now. Trying to cling on to something that isn’t real anymore is a bit sad imo.
 
😂 Why do folk on here get so aggressive when people have a different opinion to them, the football, politics, music..... I mean music, come on! We all have different tastes I love some music others will hate, it doesn't;t mean it's shit music, it's just different. The likes of the Beatles and the Stones were so important in their time and have influenced music over the decades, but they aren't the only ones (The certainly aren't the Only Ones, I'd rather listen to one of their albums than a Beatles one, nut that's my individual taste)

I also find it frustrating but not surprising that so many say it was much better back then, it was definitely better back then but there are some seriously amazing artists and musicians out there now who deserve to be heard, forget the new Beatles song and have a listen to the new Sufjan Stevens album for example, or the new best of album of Richard Hawley just as 2 examples from hundreds I could recommend I love music from the past but don't forget what is right there in front of you now, start by listening Radio 6, Fleetwood Blacks podcast and my new one when I get the time to start recording.
 
hertfordseasider said:
😂 Why do folk on here get so aggressive when people have a different opinion to them, the football, politics, music..... I mean music, come on! We all have different tastes I love some music others will hate, it doesn't;t mean it's shit music, it's just different. The likes of the Beatles and the Stones were so important in their time and have influenced music over the decades, but they aren't the only ones (The certainly aren't the Only Ones, I'd rather listen to one of their albums than a Beatles one, nut that's my individual taste)

I also find it frustrating but not surprising that so many say it was much better back then, it was definitely better back then but there are some seriously amazing artists and musicians out there now who deserve to be heard, forget the new Beatles song and have a listen to the new Sufjan Stevens album for example, or the new best of album of Richard Hawley just as 2 examples from hundreds I could recommend I love music from the past but don't forget what is right there in front of you now, start by listening Radio 6, Fleetwood Blacks podcast and my new one when I get the time to start recording.
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People do like to get a bit ‘up themselves’ where music is concerned.

You should realise that if you don't like the Beatles, that you're a philistine, who knows nothing about music and so you're not fit to be a member of "Music Club".
 
hertfordseasider said:
😂 Why do folk on here get so aggressive when people have a different opinion to them, the football, politics, music..... I mean music, come on! We all have different tastes I love some music others will hate, it doesn't;t mean it's shit music, it's just different. The likes of the Beatles and the Stones were so important in their time and have influenced music over the decades, but they aren't the only ones (The certainly aren't the Only Ones, I'd rather listen to one of their albums than a Beatles one, nut that's my individual taste)

I also find it frustrating but not surprising that so many say it was much better back then, it was definitely better back then but there are some seriously amazing artists and musicians out there now who deserve to be heard, forget the new Beatles song and have a listen to the new Sufjan Stevens album for example, or the new best of album of Richard Hawley just as 2 examples from hundreds I could recommend I love music from the past but don't forget what is right there in front of you now, start by listening Radio 6, Fleetwood Blacks podcast and my new one when I get the time to start recording.
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"forget the new Beatles song and have a listen to the new Sufjan Stevens album for example..."

Not the attitude you were proffering in your first paragraph, is it?
 
TangerinePeel said:
It is a bit odd but McCartney and John's son (Sean) point out how innovative The Beatles were when it came to recording techniques, they really pushed the boundaries in the 60s. They both reckon he would have approved.

All the AI does is separate the voice so you can hear it, if they were using AI to replicate his voice on something he never sang I'd consider it a disgrace.
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The documentary of the recording of St Pepper shows how innovative they really were. I've just listened to the song and it's OK. Couple that with the official video and the end of that is really sad.
Love or hate the Beatles, they'll always be icons of the music industry.
 
Its ok nothing special it was on an old cassette along with free as a bird and real love which came out during the anthology project none of the tracks were thought good enough for Lennons final album before his death so a bit of prospective needed before judging i guess anything by the Beatles is ok in my book there as good as it gets.
 
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