Blackpool bad news

Heard this on TalkTV this morning that was announced on the programme by Nicola Thorp who's born and bred here. I thought at the time what utter bollox, how can it be more dangerous than London? Not sure how this has been measured but doesn't sound right.
 
I read Lancashire, I’m surprised anyone wants to come here, dangerous, deprived,life expectancy, shithole
 
TangerineBayern said:
Heard this on TalkTV this morning that was announced on the programme by Nicola Thorp who's born and bred here. I thought at the time what utter bollox, how can it be more dangerous than London? Not sure how this has been measured but doesn't sound right.
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It's a rate of crime not absolute numbers, which is more meaningful as it tells people how likely they are to be a victim of crime.
 
The trouble with stat’s is with a little bit of creativity you can manipulate them to suit. I’ve lived here all my life & it doesn’t bother me. Bloody glad I don’t live in the areas the wife’s soaps are set in now they are bad.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
No, light governance of absentee landlords has done this.
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If the cheap bedsits and HMO's weren't here, people in desperate straits might think twice about settling in Blackpool.

The Council and the Housing Associations have done a great job in building homes to rent around Rigby Road. If Tory Governments hadn't hamstrung them, they could buy up and demolish the eyesore houses around Central Drive, Dickson Road etc, and replace them with public sector housing.

Like nearly all of my contemporaries, I was brought up in a Council house. We then had the bitch Thatcher who socially engineered the demise of Council houses - and left the crap we have now.

She did untold damage to this country, and we're still suffering over 30 years after she was ousted
 
Ollygon said:
If the cheap bedsits and HMO's weren't here, people in desperate straits might think twice about settling in Blackpool.

The Council and the Housing Associations have done a great job in building homes to rent around Rigby Road. If Tory Governments hadn't hamstrung them, they could buy up and demolish the eyesore houses around Central Drive, Dickson Road etc, and replace them with public sector housing.

Like nearly all of my contemporaries, I was brought up in a Council house. We then had the bitch Thatcher who socially engineered the demise of Council houses - and left the crap we have now.

She did untold damage to this country, and we're still suffering over 30 years after she was ousted
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Thatcher saved this country - she didn’t ruin it, that’s happened since!

The UK was the diseased person of Europe in 1979 when she came to power - mainly down to the Unions and a terrible Labour government.

What I would have given for her to be in power at her prime for the last 10 years at least.

Maggie ❤️😍
 
Every time these things come up there's zero mention of Blackpool having what is probably 20+ million visitors a year now, like that'll have zero effect on some recorded crimes, also it's a relatively small authority area compared to some council areas. So they're not even comparing apples with apples, as many areas have bigger rural area's that offset the inner areas a little.

Not saying this waves away all issues but it certainly raises them on top of existing
issues.

But it's never mentioned once by anyone.

But people love Blackpool news, as it's actually interesting, good or bad, as everyone thinks they know it, even if they only know a small section they've seen and assumed it's all like that. Some places no one has ever heard of and no one cares for news about apart from those who live there.

Also it says 2022 in the article, as posted in another thread, more of the below sort of thing hopefully can tackle more antisocial behaviour.

www.gov.uk

New Transport Safety Officers to crack down on anti-social behaviour

Backed by £2.5 million of funding, specially-trained officers will enhance public safety and help prevent violence against women and girls on and around public transport.
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"The roll out of the TSO scheme supports the government’s wider Anti-social behaviour action plan, which is backed by £160m worth of funding.

Under the plan, 16 areas in England and Wales are being funded to support either new anti-social behaviour focused ‘hotspot’ police and enforcement patrols in areas with the highest rates of anti-social behaviour, or trialling a new ‘immediate justice’ scheme to deliver swift and visible punishments. A select few areas are trialling both interventions.

Thanks to this work, several hotspot trial forces have reported significant declines in anti-social behaviour. The Lancashire Constabulary have reported that in Brunswick, Blackpool, there has been a 36% fall in reported incidents of anti-social behaviour compared to the same period last year when hotspot patrols were not in place."
 
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seasideone said:
Thatcher saved this country - she didn’t ruin it, that’s happened since!

The UK was the diseased person of Europe in 1979 when she came to power - mainly down to the Unions and a terrible Labour government.

What I would have given for her to be in power at her prime for the last 10 years at least.

Maggie ❤️😍
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She sold off the Family Jewels and fucked the Country fir short term gain. And I say that as someone who had a boyhood crush on her.
 
seasideone said:
Thatcher saved this country - she didn’t ruin it, that’s happened since!

The UK was the diseased person of Europe in 1979 when she came to power - mainly down to the Unions and a terrible Labour government.

What I would have given for her to be in power at her prime for the last 10 years at least.

Maggie ❤️😍
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Who got rid of her? It wasn't the Conservative Party was it? Well who'd have thunk it?
 
174th most dangerous location out of all towns, cities, and villages.
Copied from The Gazette.

But the most dangerous place in Lancashire which hasn't had Manchester & Liverpool and all it's surrounding towns in it for ages and gets millions of visitors every year.

As ever utter bollocks.
 
Foolweary said:
It's a rate of crime not absolute numbers, which is more meaningful as it tells people how likely they are to be a victim of crime.
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No l get that. Blackpool like any other town, city, village in the UK has a crime problem but the criteria that we are potentially being measured by is skewed by the vast number of visitors and that’s never mentioned! Its just another gutter assessment that wants to blemish the town further without comparing the facts. How can Blackpool be more dangerous than London where stabbings are out of control? I watched a TV interview today where the interviewee said it was safer to live in Israel than London!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
She sold off the Family Jewels and fucked the Country fir short term gain. And I say that as someone who had a boyhood crush on her.
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That's a very brave admission BFC3. We all make mistakes in our youth. You've obviously realised the error of your ways.
 
poolseasider said:
174th most dangerous location out of all towns, cities, and villages.
Copied from The Gazette.

But the most dangerous place in Lancashire which hasn't had Manchester & Liverpool and all it's surrounding towns in it for ages and gets millions of visitors every year.

As ever utter bollocks.
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The media loves the bad news. Blackpool could improve from the worst at something to 20th worst, going in the right direction let's say.

But all they'd do is reduce the area size and say Blackpool is the worst in the fylde now, rather than Lancashire, or something like that. Bad news gets clicks.

As you point out, if it led with 174th most dangerous, it's not as dramatic. Only 174th, despite a third of the countries population passing through each year is surprising.

Another flawed thing is they apply it per 1000 residents. Ok for things like burglary maybe but for certain crimes like assault, alcohol related things maybe it doesn't work out.

Blackpools population doubles and even triples in the busy summer months.

So let's take an example of a pickpocket.

So even if you compared to a town with the same population, that had 1 pickpocket crime per day and Blackpool had triple that.

If you work that crime out per head of population, it looks like you're 3 times as likely to be pickpocketed, but in reality, with the actual population of the town including visitors, you actually wouldn't be.

Blackpool does obviously have issues, but certain things will always put it above other Lancashire town's given its so much more popular and has so many more people coming.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
You've really hit the nail on the head there MAC.

Blackpool is not perfect but there is no way that it would still be able to attract so many families - many wiith young kids - if it really was a dangerous place.
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Even a Preston man thinks it's lovely...

Blackpool improvements - Tons happening

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/eyesore-blackpool-street-set-transformation-28005851?fbclid=IwAR2N2BAyk61xdxVrzvz7SV8y4vdolncBggNllMG4uCAYCj5JheUyC4Huue4...
avftt.co.uk
 
seasideone said:
Thatcher saved this country - she didn’t ruin it, that’s happened since!

The UK was the diseased person of Europe in 1979 when she came to power - mainly down to the Unions and a terrible Labour government.

What I would have given for her to be in power at her prime for the last 10 years at least.

Maggie ❤️😍
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Utter propaganda from the same people who brought you 10 million Turks are coming to swing the Brexit vote.

That woman destroyed the fabric of the North of England and it has never recovered.
 
seasideone said:
Thatcher saved this country - she didn’t ruin it, that’s happened since!

The UK was the diseased person of Europe in 1979 when she came to power - mainly down to the Unions and a terrible Labour government.

What I would have given for her to be in power at her prime for the last 10 years at least.

Maggie ❤️😍
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We wouldnt have all this shit now if Maggie was here , we would lead our own country.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
You've really hit the nail on the head there MAC.

Blackpool is not perfect but there is no way that it would still be able to attract so many families - many wiith young kids - if it really was a dangerous place.
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It is not just the front, Blackpool zoo is a cracking little zoo and a massive visitor attraction. And the visitors to the zoo also see how nice Stanley park is.
Not much in the way of crime at either.
 
I was talking to a paramedic a while ago, he was telling me they had just picked someone up in Blackpool town centre. He had no ID apart from a letter of release from Brixton prison with a Blackpool address he could stop at. Allegedly they seems to give them these addresses in "Blackpool" for them to stay. Obviously I cant vouch for the truth in this, but it really wouldn't surprise me.
 
Mr Tangerine Man said:
I was talking to a paramedic a while ago, he was telling me they had just picked someone up in Blackpool town centre. He had no ID apart from a letter of release from Brixton prison with a Blackpool address he could stop at. Allegedly they seems to give them these addresses in "Blackpool" for them to stay. Obviously I cant vouch for the truth in this, but it really wouldn't surprise me.
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Stuff like this needs a proper investigation, where is the investigative journalism when you need it?
 
seasideone said:
Th country (including the North) was screwed before she became PM.

Yes she made some tough but correct decisions.
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But those decisions created a void that hasn't been filled with anything that generally makes the country a better place for most of us to live in
The decisions, were and are, made to benefit a few who inflict trickle down economics on the rest.
I understand the people who benefitted financially loving Thatcher and voting Conservative what baffles me is the poor sops who vote for them on the back of a sense of misguided/warped patriotism.
 
Wizaard said:
Did you miss Brexit? That's what it was all about.
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And one positive you can say about Thatcher is that she didn't advocate leaving the EU, it was good for business and our economy was nosediving after the Suez situation and before we formed closer links with Europe.
 
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gjr said:
But those decisions created a void that hasn't been filled. Most of the decisions, were and are, made to benefit a few who inflict trickle down economics on the rest.
I understand the people who benefitted financially loving Thatcher and voting Conservative what baffles me is the poor sops who vote for them on the back of a sense of misguided/warped patriotism.
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She made it possible to improve your lot, from council house purchase to flexibility of work force.

She dealt with the Unions, the financial mess the country was left in and stood up to Europe from a financial and integration point of view.

There is not a single current politician I can think of in the UK who is even close to her ability.
 
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