Blue card to be introduced

Dissent should be easy to sort out. If RU can do it, then why can't football? Simple solution. Tell Clubs they'll get a points deduction for so many dissent cards. Tell players any incident will get a yellow and any follow up will get a red. Yellows carry forward to future games.

Cynical fouls should be a red anyway and here I'd go further, if a keeper denies a gso he gets a red but no sub keeper is allowed- an outfield player must go in nets.

Overall a sin bin is a stupid idea, just think of the timekeeping and timewasting. it's a no go.
 
Surely the aim is to keep 11 v 11 on the pitch that’s what we pay for. So if it could be used instead of a second yellow fair enough. I’ve not looked but that may not be the case.
 
VAR and now Blue cards, do we bring VAR in to check it’s a Blue. We are heading for a 2 hour game it’s coming.
I do miss the 70s and even the 80s when you could tackle and players just got up and on with it.
The modern game 😔
 
In the olden days the ref used to say “You can do pretty much what you want but what won’t be tolerated is dissent”.

If it was good enough for the old boys then it should be good enough for today’s ballerinas.
 
Its easy no one can speak or approach the ref except for the player involved in the incident and his captain anyone else gets a yellow. Anyone swearing at the ref its a yellow. Wouldnt take many bookings for the players to get a hang of it. Any profesional or cynicsl fouls a straight Red it would soon stop it
 
For me, use of a blue card would be most effective if only used for deliberate time wasting. It would stop so much frustration that has crept into modern day football. Keep everything else as it is.
 
Why don't they just leave the ** game alone, ditch VAR, don't have this either, they are ruining the game. It's all for the media and TV, the supporters who think it's a video game. Just Fuck off or you will lose so many supporters.
 
Just wait until they ban headers which I can see happening in some form or another. That’d bugger up the Stevenage’s of this world.
 
TangerineBear said:
For me, use of a blue card would be most effective if only used for deliberate time wasting. It would stop so much frustration that has crept into modern day football. Keep everything else as it is.
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I'd like to see it used for professional fouls.
 
What the fuck are they doing to the once beautiful game.

Leave it alone you whoppers. Traffic warden mentality from refs already killing the game with VAR, thank god we haven’t got it.

The only way this works is if players can give the refs blue cards for shite decisions, but no they’ll be untouchable and unaccountable as per.

Get in the bin 👎🏼
 
10 minutes is ludicrous - the whole game would be killed whilst the team penalised has to defend and waste time with the ball.
Awful idea.
 
Sooty59 said:
Surely the aim is to keep 11 v 11 on the pitch that’s what we pay for. So if it could be used instead of a second yellow fair enough. I’ve not looked but that may not be the case.
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No you haven't looked Sooty as a red will be issued for 2 blues or a combination of blue/yellow.
 
Stupid idea. Mind you, I like the idea of time wasting goalies going off for 10 mins 😂
 
There is going to become a point where fans unite and stage a mass protest across the football grounds.

It's already very easy to stay away these days.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Instead of messing about with sin-bins just make cynical fouls (all teams do it, even us) and dissent a red card offence. It would stop in a matter of weeks.
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Verbal abuse is already a red card offence, just referees never use it! don't bother with blue cards just enforce the current rules.

SENDING-OFF OFFENCES

A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off:
  • denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence (except a goalkeeper within their penalty area)
  • denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent whose overall movement is towards the offender's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick (unless as outlined below)
  • serious foul play
  • biting or spitting at someone
  • violent conduct
  • using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or action(s)
  • receiving a second caution in the same match
  • entering the video operation room (VOR)
 
Ridiculous idea. They have the tools already in yellow cards and red cards. Just use them and if it's dissent for example they want to clamp down on, just prior to the start of the season come out publically and make it crystal clear to fans, Clubs and players that dissent will be a yellow card every time and enforce it harshly. It'll only take a few weeks for the clubs to enforce it harshly on the players themselves if they are getting loads of yellows with some then turning to Reds if happening more than once a game.
 
fcblackpool said:
Dissent should be easy to sort out. If RU can do it, then why can't football? Simple solution. Tell Clubs they'll get a points deduction for so many dissent cards. Tell players any incident will get a yellow and any follow up will get a red. Yellows carry forward to future games.

Cynical fouls should be a red anyway and here I'd go further, if a keeper denies a gso he gets a red but no sub keeper is allowed- an outfield player must go in nets.

Overall a sin bin is a stupid idea, just think of the timekeeping and timewasting. it's a no go.
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Miss the days of an outfield player going in goals & the comedy value it brought.
Delirious cheers if he caught the ball after only dropping it twice 😁
 
Critchknows said:
Ridiculous idea. They have the tools already in yellow cards and red cards. Just use them and if it's dissent for example they want to clamp down on, just prior to the start of the season come out publically and make it crystal clear to fans, Clubs and players that dissent will be a yellow card every time and enforce it harshly. It'll only take a few weeks for the clubs to enforce it harshly on the players themselves if they are getting loads of yellows with some then turning to Reds if happening more than once a game.
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Verbal abuse is a red card offence and always has been, just need Refs to enforce it correctly. I would mic up the refs so we hear what is being said like in rugby. Those players offending would soon stop after being sent off and highlighted on social media how bad an example they are setting!
 
A referee getting ready for a game by 2040 will have a full pack of cards to shuffle before he starts the game.🎴
 
It’s all about the TV debate. More shite for the Clinton Morrisons of the punditry world to get excited about. It’ll ruin the match in the meantime.
 
I haven't even read the article, a summary of folks' observations on here is enough.

If it's an attempt to improve the game in the eyes of the authorities, then it's doomed to fail before it starts. Because the way everything in the game is now, microscopic analysis of everything, media wanting full access to managers and players for comments.

Said it before, the average professional footballer isn't all that bright at times. They now know they shouldn't be kicking/moving the ball at free kicks or throw ins, but they've all been doing it their whole career so it's ingrained in them. So every week a decent number of the yellows handed out are for that sort of thing. A professional will do anything to gain an advantage, even when one doesn't exist - Stevenage purely as an example gave a masterclass in it last weekend.

Referees are so bound by having to implement daft rules that they didn't conceive in the first place that it's impossible to tell whether they're any good or not sometimes. What history will refer to as The Chissy Law, this late flagging off offside, is just one example.

But the game is being administered by tossers who probably weren't any better at football than I was - which believe me is really saying something - and so have no idea how much the daft ideas they have are ruining the best game in the world. Get the right rule makers in, and a panel of ex players as referees, who can tell the difference between a genuine mistimed attempt to get the ball and something cynical, and we might have a starting point for the return of some common sense instead of blue feckin cards, for Krysts's sake.
 
Are they going to put exercise bikes on the sidelines so the player can keep warm? Will they be able to warm up if not?

What if 5 players are blue carded at once for crowding a ref? 11 v 6?
 
Macseasider said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Football fans left baffled as referees are to hand out BLUE cards

Tottenham boss Ange Postecoglou, Everton 's Sean Dyche, and Crystal Palace's Roy Hodgson are among the Premier League managers to have previously voiced their opposition to 'blue cards'.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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I think this is a load of old pony,why not send them off dissent .after a couple of weeks it would be the end of dissent.re a blue for a tackle that stops a promising attack will lead to more diving and feigning and a stop start game.
 
ANDY BAYS on bbc lancs had his two pennyworth . absolutedly cained it. its no doubt usa influenced . if a player is sent off for breaking someobnes leg and then comes back on and punches the goalkeeper in the face and sparks him out. . this COULD feasibly happen. DON T know what the rules are in RUGBY LEAGUE but isnt it something similar.
 
fcblackpool said:
Dissent should be easy to sort out. If RU can do it, then why can't football? Simple solution. Tell Clubs they'll get a points deduction for so many dissent cards. Tell players any incident will get a yellow and any follow up will get a red. Yellows carry forward to future games.

Cynical fouls should be a red anyway and here I'd go further, if a keeper denies a gso he gets a red but no sub keeper is allowed- an outfield player must go in nets.

Overall a sin bin is a stupid idea, just think of the timekeeping and timewasting. it's a no go.
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I hope they don’t implement your ideas because they would end up with 5 a side. 😂
Seriously, before we slag the authorities off we should take a look at the footballers themselves.
A lot are professional cheats and yet they call themselves “sportsmen”
I’ll wager that all those who are calling it nonsense would welcome the idea if the opposition were punished by getting a sin bin if we were trailing.
The thing is time wasting and dissent needs sorting out and goalies are by far the worst
Ball goes behind for a goal kick and when they used to have to take the kick on the side the ball went out they stroll across to the other side.
They catch a ball cleanly when stood up and then suddenly fall forward and lie on the ball.
Place a ball for a goal kick and then a defender strolls back, takes the kick but just taps it back to the keeper (we do that a lot)
Any slight infringement when defending a set piece and they fall over as if they’ve been poleaxed
What ever happened to the 6 second rule or the amount of steps they were only allow to take.
Place the ball for a kick, walk backwards and bang their boots on the goal post (which btw you never see outfield players do) then saunter forward and respot the ball, walk back again, another bang of the boots and then decide to take the kick.
At Stevenage one of their players actually walked about 10 yards further on from where the ball went out to take a throw in.
A player taps a ball 2 yards to prevent a quick free kick being taken and gets booked whereas a player who gives away a free kick can pick the ball up, walk about 10 yards with it and then drop it on the floor and naff all is done.
All blatant cheating and needs to be stopped.
 
Eternaloptimist said:
I hope they don’t implement your ideas because they would end up with 5 a side. 😂
Seriously, before we slag the authorities off we should take a look at the footballers themselves.
A lot are professional cheats and yet they call themselves “sportsmen”
I’ll wager that all those who are calling it nonsense would welcome the idea if the opposition were punished by getting a sin bin if we were trailing.
The thing is time wasting and dissent needs sorting out and goalies are by far the worst
Ball goes behind for a goal kick and when they used to have to take the kick on the side the ball went out they stroll across to the other side.
They catch a ball cleanly when stood up and then suddenly fall forward and lie on the ball.
Place a ball for a goal kick and then a defender strolls back, takes the kick but just taps it back to the keeper (we do that a lot)
Any slight infringement when defending a set piece and they fall over as if they’ve been poleaxed
What ever happened to the 6 second rule or the amount of steps they were only allow to take.
Place the ball for a kick, walk backwards and bang their boots on the goal post (which btw you never see outfield players do) then saunter forward and respot the ball, walk back again, another bang of the boots and then decide to take the kick.
At Stevenage one of their players actually walked about 10 yards further on from where the ball went out to take a throw in.
A player taps a ball 2 yards to prevent a quick free kick being taken and gets booked whereas a player who gives away a free kick can pick the ball up, walk about 10 yards with it and then drop it on the floor and naff all is done.
All blatant cheating and needs to be stopped.
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There's only one way to stop the bad side, for want of better words, and that is to hit the clubs with points deductions. Sin bins will be mean more timewasting.

All the behaviour you mention is secretly condoned by managers. Even diving for a pen has the manager saying he didn't see it whilst no doubt praising the player in the dressing room
 
I actually think there is some merit in the proposal. A yellow card on occassion is no deterrent on those occasions where a player takes one for the team. It also doesn’t benefit the opposition on the day…..depending how many yellows a player gets, it might be weeks or even months down the line before it has any impact…that is not much use to the opposition on the day of the original yellow.
With the blue card, the punishment is immediate and gives the opposition an advantage ( 10 vs 11) for a period of time.
 
seasidelytham said:
I actually think there is some merit in the proposal. A yellow card on occassion is no deterrent on those occasions where a player takes one for the team. It also doesn’t benefit the opposition on the day…..depending how many yellows a player gets, it might be weeks or even months down the line before it has any impact…that is not much use to the opposition on the day of the original yellow.
With the blue card, the punishment is immediate and gives the opposition an advantage ( 10 vs 11) for a period of time.
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The problem is timekeeping and timewasting. It would be unworkable.

A more practical solution would be to award a penalty against.

As an aside, if timekeepers were appointed I'd like to see time added on be team specific. For example, it's 0-0 and X have been timewasting all game because they want to 0-0. Board goes up and it's 8 minutes. Team Y scores. Now if those 8 minutes are all for Team X timewasting the whistle would go and team X would not benefit from their own timewasting.
 
fcblackpool said:
The problem is timekeeping and timewasting. It would be unworkable.

A more practical solution would be to award a penalty against.

As an aside, if timekeepers were appointed I'd like to see time added on be team specific. For example, it's 0-0 and X have been timewasting all game because they want to 0-0. Board goes up and it's 8 minutes. Team Y scores. Now if those 8 minutes are all for Team X timewasting the whistle would go and team X should not benefit from their own timewasting.
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Yep I agree with that as well.
 
Eternaloptimist said:
I hope they don’t implement your ideas because they would end up with 5 a side. 😂
Seriously, before we slag the authorities off we should take a look at the footballers themselves.
A lot are professional cheats and yet they call themselves “sportsmen”
I’ll wager that all those who are calling it nonsense would welcome the idea if the opposition were punished by getting a sin bin if we were trailing.
The thing is time wasting and dissent needs sorting out and goalies are by far the worst
Ball goes behind for a goal kick and when they used to have to take the kick on the side the ball went out they stroll across to the other side.
They catch a ball cleanly when stood up and then suddenly fall forward and lie on the ball.
Place a ball for a goal kick and then a defender strolls back, takes the kick but just taps it back to the keeper (we do that a lot)
Any slight infringement when defending a set piece and they fall over as if they’ve been poleaxed
What ever happened to the 6 second rule or the amount of steps they were only allow to take.
Place the ball for a kick, walk backwards and bang their boots on the goal post (which btw you never see outfield players do) then saunter forward and respot the ball, walk back again, another bang of the boots and then decide to take the kick.
At Stevenage one of their players actually walked about 10 yards further on from where the ball went out to take a throw in.
A player taps a ball 2 yards to prevent a quick free kick being taken and gets booked whereas a player who gives away a free kick can pick the ball up, walk about 10 yards with it and then drop it on the floor and naff all is done.
All blatant cheating and needs to be stopped.
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As you say, there are so many rules that the refs don't enforce at the moment, either through incompetence, indifference, and sometimes malice.

The 6-second rule that Grimshaw flouts regularly exasperates me. The foul throws where one foot is clearly off the ground is another. Most of all, the tugging and holding by defenders in every corner - a penalty for each instance would soon sort that out.

Our refs are so incompetent they are incapable of taking in more rules. Scrap this daft idea.
 
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