Bolton BSM game

JJpool said:
It depends how much building the fanbase is a priority.

That's exactly why they did those deal games in the championship.

You've only been on the site since September, so how would you know I 'FOREVER' go on about it? Or are you another multi user name? We're only talking about it not because you brought it up. The price was fine for the forest game, it was other factors that led to the attendance.

I've never said it will magically unearth thousands of fans, only its a factor and it can open the door to more being able to attend and going forward the more that get the bug the better. It's about building habits.

Not sure what figures you're looking at, yes we made more than them in our first season. I'm on about their St sales making sinilar or more than under the lower price. I don't disagree about the other part about the silly money they are losing.
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The best thing to do with Luker is ignore him
 
bfcpete said:
Keep winning and the crowds will come, especially if we have a sniff at promotion. I assume it won't be on Tangerine TV?
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Yep, which means using 1 cup game to judge our crowds is nonesense.

We'd get a decent crowd in league 1 if in the playoffs or going for autos and especially near the end of the season for the key games, games to win autos, get in the playoffs, the actual playoffs etc.

Even in league 1 we could easily nigh on fill the stadium under the right circumstances.

If we get ourselves into a good position the whole mentality of the fanbase will change.
 
£15 is fair, especially as the £25 hospitality sold out before lunch today. Bolton will sell what they are given. This competition set us up for better things to come not so long ago and a trip to Wembley is always welcome despite criticism. Personally looking forward to winning it.
 
Burnnazzer said:
£15 is fair, especially as the £25 hospitality sold out before lunch today. Bolton will sell what they are given. This competition set us up for better things to come not so long ago and a trip to Wembley is always welcome despite criticism. Personally looking forward to winning it.
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To be honest had I known about the hospitality offer I would of gone with that myself.
 
So it might have helped if they had posted about thr ticket details on FB, I'm guessing they just forgot?

But I will say I did receive an email earlier today (so I presume everyone else did too) promoting this game, so that's good.

Still very early days in ticket sales and not a lot to look at yet, but probably similar numbers sold so far as some of the past game attendances...
 
JJpool said:
There's no doubt many don't like being in league 1 and think we should return to the championship, that's why theres been expectation to beat sides and one reason why the atmosphere hasn't been great for much of the season. But I don't think that's that unreasonable seeing as we were a championship side and only went down due to mismanagement. We've a really good squad.

We've already proven we can grow, shown by coming down bigger after 2 years in the championship.

Cheaper tickets do work, it's a very simple equation. But there are other factors.

We've already seen in the past who a deal game was used on a weeknight on sky or on a weekend the crowds were bigger. There's a limit some would pay and you only had to speak to casuals or people who know them to know 30 quid wasn't popular and many wouldn't pay it.

Again, you're using 1 game to judge that had many other factors involved. I can guarantee if that game was much higher priced even less would have gone. There's always a price sweet spot.

I don't see how trying to attract more fans is a bad thing, to do that you the to make effort, get people through the door and you have to let people know who don't usually go.

Success will do it but that cannot be guaranteed, so that's why they did the deal games I guess.

It depends how much effort they want up put into growing the fanbase and how quickly. We've seen the nobbers go dirt cheap and it works, look at their crowds before they did, so not sure why you can say price isn't a factor.

Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate, doing a deal may not make quite as much at times but you'd do it in the hope that filling the stadium would bring in people who get the bug and some will return.

Our natural place based on numbers alone may be upper league 1, but football doesn't work like that, many clubs are basket cases and we also have additional factors in our favour. We win playoffs more often, the fans when at it can really help and get behind us. There's no reason we can't be a club that is in the championship and that's the ambition.

When SS arrived he straight away did a deal and we had a bumper home game, what would be the harm in doing that once the new stand was open to have a celebratory day and try and fill it?
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Cheaper tickets can work...they speculated and failed to accumulate.

Forest Green Rovers £10 - gate 1534
Forest replay £15 - gate 8,034

Clearly they don't work. You always say that if we halve the price then more will come and we'll get the money back on pies and drinks. At FGR, there were no pies by half time so that didn't work either.

The bottom line is that people will come up with all kinds of excuses not to go, rather than find ways to go. It was ever thus with the Blackpool fanbase.
 
JJpool said:
You've admitted they do attract more people. Yes it's about revenue but it depends how badly you want to grow the fanbase.

Let's not forget you also have to let people know about the cheaper prices.

Many won't see the usual twitter or other standard announcements.

In this day and age they'd have to utilise the many Blackpool Facebook pages etc, to spread the word, that would help and I have seen it happen for one game.

The nobbers have apparently made similar or slightly more revenue going that route and it has increased the crowds.
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They clearly don't attract more. The cheapest games this season have seen the lowest crowds. Fact.

And the Nobbers have made a huge loss so that's nonsense as well.
 
Wizaard said:
Cheaper tickets can work...they speculated and failed to accumulate.

Forest Green Rovers £10 - gate 1534
Forest replay £15 - gate 8,034

Clearly they don't work. You always say that if we halve the price then more will come and we'll get the money back on pies and drinks. At FGR, there were no pies by half time so that didn't work either.

The bottom line is that people will come up with all kinds of excuses not to go, rather than find ways to go. It was ever thus with the Blackpool fanbase.
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Forest Green was over 3k and most were pissed off with the way that came about from the FA, so your figure is just inaccurate.

You're not comparing to anything, raise the prices to 25 quid and you'd see those games get less in attendance.

It's a very simple factor price, but it can be somewhat overridden by the importance of the game, or another factor is if it's a weeknight and many can't travel etc. Many factors. To simply say doesn't work, after saying they can in you opening line is daft.

It clearly is a factor and as the nobbers ST showed, they wouldn't have got as many at a higher price. Their financial issues aren’t down to that it's down to paying wages etc a lot more than they can afford. Their ST revenue isn't much different to less at a higher price.

The bottom line is there's many factors involved in attendances, from being marooned in 8th, the style of play, ease of viewing if on TV, being skint in the month of Jan with many home games, the appeal of forest again etc.
 
JJpool said:
Forest Green was over 3k and most were pissed off with the way that came about from the FA, so your figure is just inaccurate.

You're not comparing to anything, raise the prices to 25 quid and you'd see those games get less in attendance.

It's a very simple factor price, but it can be somForest ewhat overridden by the importance of the game, or another factor is if it's a weeknight and many can't travel etc. Many factors. To simply say doesn't work, after saying they can in you opening line is daft.

It clearly is a factor and as the nobbers ST showed, they wouldn't have got as many at a higher price. Their financial issues aren’t down to that it's down to paying wages etc a lot more than they can afford. Their ST revenue isn't much different to less at a higher price.

The bottom line is there's many factors involved in attendances, from being marooned in 8th, the style of play, ease of viewing if on TV, being skint in the month of Jan with many home games, the appeal of forest again etc.
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Burton Albion was 1534. At a tenner. I apologise. These cup runs merge into one 😉
 
Bolton have sold their 2,135 allocation, but why not give them the south as well?, and isn't the away allocation usually 2,900?.
Seems every other football club can control home and away fans with BFC being the exception.
 
Alfie Conn said:
Bolton have sold their 2,135 allocation, but why not give them the south as well?, and isn't the away allocation usually 2,900?.
Seems every other football club can control home and away fans with BFC being the exception.
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I think our sales will be like usual, it'll pick up the nearer it gets, people will buy this weekend. Also people will get after payday for many. We usual get a load buying very late for cup games.
 
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