Bolton BSM game

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Lancstangerine

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To try and get a decent crowd behind us - which we will need against them, is it an option for the club to make it free entry for ST holders? Normally we’d be lucky to get a couple of thousand home fans but if it’s free for ST holders we could treble that. Charge £15 for match tickets and there wont be much difference in revenue compared to the £10 we’ve charged in previous rounds. Bolton will sell a couple of thousand even at £15 I’d have thought.
 
It should be £1 or even free entry for kids. Maybe offer a discount to season ticket holders (£10)? An empty seat makes no money after all.
 
NewburyOne said:
It should be £1 or even free entry for kids. Maybe offer a discount to season ticket holders (£10)? An empty seat makes no money after all.
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£1 the club loses money.
I've paid a tenner for every EFL home game this season so it will probably be the same.

Why all of a sudden are fans wanting something for nothing when they haven't bothered in the early rounds?

Just pay the money you tight arses.
 
poolseasider said:
Utter nonsense if your too right to pay a tenner for a game then I despair.
Same as last night for £15.

I presume all the extra security needed for the 7k ST holders who rock up comes free?

Gate money gets split in FL completions no away team is going to agree to this anyway.
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Looking at the crowds so far, then the majority of our fan base aren’t prepared to pay a tenner for a BSM game.
 
TheLuker said:
Where's your ambition?

Sadler should be giving out tickets for free to fill the ground every match until we get promoted hack to The Championship.

And I boycotted so I deserve to watch for free until we're at least in The Chanpionship play-off positions.
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I think whilst some posters go to one extreme of suggesting freebies and such, I've seen you and another poster (bloke with King Billy profile pic) shoot down any suggestion that the club could do more to promote sales. An attitude of "we should all just turn up every week!"

It is a business and Sadler needs to make money, but promotions, discounts, special events are all part of that parcel.

I think yourself and King Billy bloke were shooting down a suggestion the media team should have done more to promote the Forest game. KB hilariously even said "what more do you want" because the club had put a tweet out..

Blackpool FC is a product, some of us (myself included) are loyal to that product regardless - many others aren't. The most lucrative, famous brands on the planet (McDonald's, Coca-Cola) still advertise, still do promotions - if it's necessary for them, it's definitely necessary for Blackpool FC as well.
 
TangerinePeel said:
I think whilst some posters go to one extreme of suggesting freebies and such, I've seen you and another poster (bloke with King Billy profile pic) shoot down any suggestion that the club could do more to promote sales. An attitude of "we should all just turn up every week!"

It is a business and Sadler needs to make money, but promotions, discounts, special events are all part of that parcel.

I think yourself and King Billy bloke were shooting down a suggestion the media team should have done more to promote the Forest game. KB hilariously even said "what more do you want" because the club had put a tweet out..

Blackpool FC is a product, some of us (myself included) are loyal to that product regardless - many others aren't. The most lucrative, famous brands on the planet (McDonald's, Coca-Cola) still advertise, still do promotions - if it's necessary for them, it's definitely necessary for Blackpool FC as well.
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"It's a business and Sadler needs to make money...."

As I understand it, he's not making anything, he's putting in a few million a year to keep us afloat and reasonably competitive.

Last night was fantastic and showcased on national television what a great team and manager we have. It also showcased that even cheap tickets won't get people in the ground and whilst the atmosphere was decent, the swathes of empty seats were embarassing. We are a L1 club playing Prem opposition and the ground should've been overflowing. The away leg at Forest was a sell-out, almost 30,000 - the only empty seats were the ones that Blackpool returned.

We as a fanbase seem to want more and more whilst contributing less and less. I actually think that year in the Prem was one of the worst things to happen to this club as it's created an insurmountable level of expectation and entitlement such that we only get 6000 fans turning out for a fantastic spectacle like last night.
 
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poolseasider said:
£1 the club loses money.
I've paid a tenner for every EFL home game this season so it will probably be the same.

Why all of a sudden are fans wanting something for nothing when they haven't bothered in the early rounds?

Just pay the money you tight arses.
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For the same reason they didn't go last night. Want everything for nothing then moan about the standard of the product.
 
TheLuker said:
"It's a business and Sadler needs to make money...."

As I understand it, he's not making anything, he's putting in a few million a year to keep us afloat and reasonably competitive.

Last night was fantastic and showcased on national television what a great team and manager we have. It also showcased that even cheap tickets won't get people in the ground and whilst the atmosphere was decent, the swathes of empty seats were embarassing. We are a L1 club playing Prem opposition and the ground should've been overflowing. The away leg at Forest was a sell-out, almost 30,000 - the only empty seats were the ones that Blackpool returned.

We as a fanbase seem to want more and more whilst contributing less and less. I actually think that year in the Prem was one of the worst things to happen to this club as it's created an insurmountable level of expectation and entitlement such that we only get 6000 fans turning out for a fantastic spectacle like last night.
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I should have phrased that as the club needs to make money, if Sadler thinks owning a football club was going to make him money personally then he is a fool - anyone getting into football ownership is aware it is a money pit. If he wasn't expecting having to invest in a club that had been intentionally ran into the ground, the again, more fool him.

I like Sadler and believe he is doing his best by the club, but investing in the football club you own sounds like the bare minimum a decent owner should be doing.

The Prem side was Forest, who we have played countless times as they have been a football league side more consistently then we have (we played in the Prem 11 years before their return). It was freezing cold with the prospect of playing Bristol City on a Friday night in the unlikely event we won. I agree the attendance should have been better but it was hardly a glamour tie - far from it infact.

I think the fanbase has been incredibly receptive, much bigger gates in League One than we had pre-boycott and at the beginning of Sadler's tenure. That's following a horrific cluster fuck of a relegation season where Sadler and the board got pretty much everything wrong.

People have probably lost a bit of faith and patience. We are underperforming this season, the two sides we have come down from the championship with are near the bottom of the table - that is two of your typically most competitive teams out the equation and we're sat in 8th, with a woeful away record. That frustration almost definitely contributed to a poor turn out last night in the cup.

Sadler had almost undying support up until last season, he got things majorly wrong on multiple fronts and has lost some of that. There is give and take, so to suggest it's just the fans who want more for less is unfair. As I said, the biggest and best businesses in the world understand the need for promotions and discounts, so should Blackpool FC.
 
Lancstangerine said:
To try and get a decent crowd behind us - which we will need against them, is it an option for the club to make it free entry for ST holders? Normally we’d be lucky to get a couple of thousand home fans but if it’s free for ST holders we could treble that. Charge £15 for match tickets and there wont be much difference in revenue compared to the £10 we’ve charged in previous rounds. Bolton will sell a couple of thousand even at £15 I’d have thought.
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Not free but even a tenner is alright, yes the competition isn't always loved bit it's against one of our rivals many care about.

I'm hopeful for a decent enough attendance here.

It's also likely to be on a night that's not freezing and after a payday for many, which should help.

We have a real chance of winning this and ate so close to Wembley, which should be marketable.
 
TangerinePeel said:
I think whilst some posters go to one extreme of suggesting freebies and such, I've seen you and another poster (bloke with King Billy profile pic) shoot down any suggestion that the club could do more to promote sales. An attitude of "we should all just turn up every week!"

It is a business and Sadler needs to make money, but promotions, discounts, special events are all part of that parcel.

I think yourself and King Billy bloke were shooting down a suggestion the media team should have done more to promote the Forest game. KB hilariously even said "what more do you want" because the club had put a tweet out..

Blackpool FC is a product, some of us (myself included) are loyal to that product regardless - many others aren't. The most lucrative, famous brands on the planet (McDonald's, Coca-Cola) still advertise, still do promotions - if it's necessary for them, it's definitely necessary for Blackpool FC as well.
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So a Cup game at £15 last night wasn't a promotion?
Sandgroanun said:
And what a cracking live game and atmosphere you missed.
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I went last night haven't missed any home game bar Peterborough this season.
 
JJpool said:
Not free but even a tenner is alright, yes the competition isn't always loved bit it's against one of our rivals many care about.

I'm hopeful for a decent enough attendance here.

It's also likely to be on a night that's not freezing and after a payday for many, which should help.

We have a real chance of winning this and ate so close to Wembley, which should be marketable.
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Any home game against one of our big rivals should be at least 20 quid and we should still fill the stadium.

Aren't we the best fans around?
 
poolseasider said:
£1 the club loses money.
I've paid a tenner for every EFL home game this season so it will probably be the same.

Why all of a sudden are fans wanting something for nothing when they haven't bothered in the early rounds?

Just pay the money you tight arses.
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I wasn't saying £1 for all, just kids, as long as accompanied by an adult.
 
TheLuker said:
Any home game against one of our big rivals should be at least 20 quid and we should still fill the stadium.

Aren't we the best fans around?
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Why would they raise the price in this competition when it's been the same throughout, that would be stupid. It's a bonus game.

It's a competition some don't care as much about, but a game against Bolton should help get many up for it and if they price it the same, it should do alright.

I don't think anyone has said best fans around, that's a classic nobber line...

People have said when at it we've got one of most vociferous fanbases for the numbers.
 
Lancstangerine said:
To try and get a decent crowd behind us - which we will need against them, is it an option for the club to make it free entry for ST holders? Normally we’d be lucky to get a couple of thousand home fans but if it’s free for ST holders we could treble that. Charge £15 for match tickets and there wont be much difference in revenue compared to the £10 we’ve charged in previous rounds. Bolton will sell a couple of thousand even at £15 I’d have thought.
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you could offer free entry, a free pie and a no strings night out with Carol Vorderman and the TV and a brew brigade still wouldn't show up.
 
JJpool said:
Why would they raise the price in this competition when it's been the same throughout, that would be stupid. It's a bonus game.

It's a competition some don't care as much about, but a game against Bolton should help get many up for it and if they price it the same, it should do alright.

I don't think anyone has said best fans around, that's a classic nobber line...

People have said when at it we've got one of most vociferous fanbases for the numbers.
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You're right. Keep the prices low to try to entice people that still won't go and Sadler can pay the extra policing bill that comes with playing a local rival out of his own pocket.
 
Mark_GT said:
you could offer free entry, a free pie and a no strings night out with Carol Vorderman and the TV and a brew brigade still wouldn't show up.
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Being honest, I doubt I would bother even if was free.

I don't think money is the issue here as £10 wouldn't be a stumbling block. It's simply the nature of the competition. It almost has a secret boycott in place that no one talks about.
 
TheLuker said:
You're right. Keep the prices low to try to entice people that still won't go and Sadler can pay the extra policing bill that comes with playing a local rival out of his own pocket.
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With that logic let's raise the league match price for their home game to 40 quid to cover those policing costs. 🙄

If the club want a decent crowd, given the competition, it'll be priced well in line with the competition, which I expect them to do. It was a tenner regardless, even for ttv to watch poor sides.

If we get through we've a good chance of winning it and earning the club far more money.
 
Better chance of winning and progressing with the fans fully behind us.

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How about make it as cheap as possible to try and increase crowds and if people want to play more like some of the Brewsters on this thread they can pay double or pay into the BFC community trust or something

I'm sure the club would be delighted to have extra funds if people want to pay more

Come on guys put your money where your mouths are
 
TheLuker said:
I actually think that year in the Prem was one of the worst things to happen to this club
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It really wasn't, without that we'd be miles behind other sides.

Given the decades of crap, that fleeting season in the sun helped rebuild a little.

We're still probably in negative territory given the amount of time spent in the lower league's going nowhere with zero ambition and a rust bucket of a ground. Then add in the boycott years.

What we need now is some relative success, keep growing the fanbase, like we are given the numbers attending in league 1 compared to the past.

We also need big games at home, big cup games etc that will fill the stadium and help attract casuals and the next generation.

The new East will help, as we could only be a promotion or a big cup draw away from selling out under the current usable capacity. We have to be able to accommodate the demand when its there.
 
Think. It should stay the same price£10 ,been to the other games and am happy to pay ,still cheaper than other games and a chance to progress further and get to Wembley also playing noblot so should be a good game ,bet a lot of the ones not going or want cheaper prices will be happy enough to pay more if we get to the final at wembley
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Reckon 3,000 home fans at best. It's a competition no one gives a shit about regardless of whether it's Bolton or not.
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Oh please do “something off”.
No I won’t be there but if you read my previous posts on night games and the distances involved in me getting there and back I wouldn’t be there even if it were …you fill in who you choose…but I will pay my £10 to watch it on TTV and I do care as I do with any BFC game.
 
As said it's hard to predict demand for this, people seemed excited by getting Bolton. You then have the competition which isn't loved but so close to Wembley and get through them and there's a good chance.

So it could be quite popular at the usual tenner price, in better weather too and with the game coming just after payday for many.

I'm hopeful about getting a decent attendance for this one.

We were never going to win the fa cup.

Winning cups, even less popular ones, doesn't happen often for clubs like us anymore, apart from playoffs offcourse....
 
TangerinePeel said:
I should have phrased that as the club needs to make money, if Sadler thinks owning a football club was going to make him money personally then he is a fool - anyone getting into football ownership is aware it is a money pit. If he wasn't expecting having to invest in a club that had been intentionally ran into the ground, the again, more fool him.

I like Sadler and believe he is doing his best by the club, but investing in the football club you own sounds like the bare minimum a decent owner should be doing.

The Prem side was Forest, who we have played countless times as they have been a football league side more consistently then we have (we played in the Prem 11 years before their return). It was freezing cold with the prospect of playing Bristol City on a Friday night in the unlikely event we won. I agree the attendance should have been better but it was hardly a glamour tie - far from it infact.

I think the fanbase has been incredibly receptive, much bigger gates in League One than we had pre-boycott and at the beginning of Sadler's tenure. That's following a horrific cluster fuck of a relegation season where Sadler and the board got pretty much everything wrong.

People have probably lost a bit of faith and patience. We are underperforming this season, the two sides we have come down from the championship with are near the bottom of the table - that is two of your typically most competitive teams out the equation and we're sat in 8th, with a woeful away record. That frustration almost definitely contributed to a poor turn out last night in the cup.

Sadler had almost undying support up until last season, he got things majorly wrong on multiple fronts and has lost some of that. There is give and take, so to suggest it's just the fans who want more for less is unfair. As I said, the biggest and best businesses in the world understand the need for promotions and discounts, so should Blackpool FC.
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Very good post, wonder why The Luker hasn’t taken you up with a reply 🤔🙄
 
bleach51 said:
Oh please do “something off”.
No I won’t be there but if you read my previous posts on night games and the distances involved in me getting there and back I wouldn’t be there even if it were …you fill in who you choose…but I will pay my £10 to watch it on TTV and I do care as I do with any BFC game.
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He's right though
You won't be there and many others won't either
 
Martonmosser said:
Very good post, wonder why The Luker hasn’t taken you up with a reply 🤔🙄
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I was busy yesterday writing my new novel.

It's about a whole load of middle aged and elderly mainly white men who contribute to an online forum on a topic that they are passionate about but don't really understand

It's full of interesting characters with a few antagonists, oddballs, and bullies.

The working title is Another View From The Pet Shop.
 
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TheLuker said:
I was busy yesterday writing my new novel.

It's about a whole load of middle aged and elderly mainly white men who contribute to an online forum on a topic that they are passionate about but don't really understand

It's full of interesting characters with a few antagonists, oddballs, and bullies.

The working title is Another View From The Pet Shop.
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I thought it would be about a cowardly keyboard warrior hiding behind a user name whilst giving fellow football fans online abuse on an obscure football forum
 
BFC4EVA said:
More will be up for this match rather than the forest match.
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You would like to think so.
Never mind the fact it's Horwich, a win in this game sees us 1 game from Wembley.
As I've said before we have been spoilt with appearances there over the last 20yrs, but for some it will be a first, and fir others it could be their last.
Never let the opportunity to play there pass the club, or the fans by.
 
TheLuker said:
"It's a business and Sadler needs to make money...."

As I understand it, he's not making anything, he's putting in a few million a year to keep us afloat and reasonably competitive.

Last night was fantastic and showcased on national television what a great team and manager we have. It also showcased that even cheap tickets won't get people in the ground and whilst the atmosphere was decent, the swathes of empty seats were embarassing. We are a L1 club playing Prem opposition and the ground should've been overflowing. The away leg at Forest was a sell-out, almost 30,000 - the only empty seats were the ones that Blackpool returned.

We as a fanbase seem to want more and more whilst contributing less and less. I actually think that year in the Prem was one of the worst things to happen to this club as it's created an insurmountable level of expectation and entitlement such that we only get 6000 fans turning out for a fantastic spectacle like last night.
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some valid points there. we will highly likely be no higher than the Championship withi n the next five seasons. I LOVED last night and so did my son . WE will ne back for the BLACKPOOL / BOLTON game And it my 64 birthday as it appens.
 
Mcewans Mullet said:
You would like to think so.
Never mind the fact it's Horwich, a win in this game sees us 1 game from Wembley.
As I've said before we have been spoilt with appearances there over the last 20yrs, but for some it will be a first, and fir others it could be their last.
Never let the opportunity to play there pass the club, or the fans by.
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wemberlee wemberlee. we are the famous blackpool fc and wer,e going to wemberlee.
 
BFC4EVA said:
More will be up for this match rather than the forest match.
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That was my initial thought, better opposition, better weather, after payday for many and Jan is a know skint month, chance to progress to Wembley and actually win a cup.

The only negative is the competition itself, but when else will we win something?
 
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