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Now the container ships aren't able to dock at Felixstowe as there's no lorry drivers to drive the containers away.

Johnson, Farage, where art thou? You've well and truly buggered this country up.
Do you not watch the news? Or are you scared there might be something too positive for you on there? It was all over the news last night that this is a global problem following the surge in orders after lockdown. It even showed container ships waiting in the Pacific to unload in the USA.
But don't let the truth get in the way of your claims.
And do try to keep up.
 
A truck driver on BBC this morning was celebrating his £12k pay rise resulting from the driver shortage. See how jobs are being revalued to reflect their worth to society? The end of cheap foreign labour as a result of Brexit, payment of proper wages and new opportunities for UK school leavers are brexit benefits you don't seem to have mentioned.
Do you think the rate of inflation and costs in general will stay the same or will we all have to pay more, especially the millions who haven't had a pay rise, so in effect, a pay cut against the cost of living?
 
Do you think the rate of inflation and costs in general will stay the same or will we all have to pay more, especially the millions who haven't had a pay rise, so in effect, a pay cut against the cost of living?
I assume you're referring to public service Wizz? I used to work in public service and went years without a pay rise, to the point where my pay was worth so much less. I'm glad I'm out of it tbh. I wouldn't like to be back in public service with the way inflation is heading. The trouble is public servants are an easy target for government. I was in Unison and they were about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
 
I assume you're referring to public service Wizz? I used to work in public service and went years without a pay rise, to the point where my pay was worth so much less. I'm glad I'm out of it tbh. I wouldn't like to be back in public service with the way inflation is heading. The trouble is public servants are an easy target for government. I was in Unison and they were about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
There has already been a pay freeze in the public sector, but I would have thought that many private sector businesses won't be offering pay rises after over a year of closure.
 
Do you not watch the news? Or are you scared there might be something too positive for you on there? It was all over the news last night that this is a global problem following the surge in orders after lockdown. It even showed container ships waiting in the Pacific to unload in the USA.
But don't let the truth get in the way of your claims.
And do try to keep up.
It doesn't seem to be a problem in Europe where our ships are being re-routed to.

The Government keep saying everything is a global problem. Seems to be a common excuse they know the gullible will lap up.
 
I see the government are now going to let European butchers travel here to work in order to negate the shortage of slaughterhouse workers.
HGV drivers, butchers how many other sectors next?
Don’t forget that British citizens are not free to work in the EU though.
Brilliant
 
I see the government are now going to let European butchers travel here to work in order to negate the shortage of slaughterhouse workers.
HGV drivers, butchers how many other sectors next?
Don’t forget that British citizens are not free to work in the EU though.
Brilliant
A cutting comment
 
Anyone else think that Brexit should be a banned subject on here now? Has anyone's minds been changed by all our in-depth analysis?

Maybe we could start a 'shouting in to a void' sub board?
I've changed my mind.Only because of the countless whingeing on here though. The whole politics forum should be scrapped. AVFTT is now an outlet for those with no interest in football and no interest in BFC. It's a convenient place they've stumbled across where some can try and force their political views on the rest of us. And that's being polite. AVFTT was never created for that purpose.
 
I've changed my mind.Only because of the countless whingeing on here though. The whole politics forum should be scrapped. AVFTT is now an outlet for those with no interest in football and no interest in BFC. It's a convenient place they've stumbled across where some can try and force their political views on the rest of us. And that's being polite. AVFTT was never created for that purpose.
Let’s have an official AVFTT referendum about it. I’m sure there would be no arguing about the result......🤣
 
I've changed my mind.Only because of the countless whingeing on here though. The whole politics forum should be scrapped. AVFTT is now an outlet for those with no interest in football and no interest in BFC. It's a convenient place they've stumbled across where some can try and force their political views on the rest of us. And that's being polite. AVFTT was never created for that purpose.

That’s pretty rich and pretty comical, too, coming from someone who is never off the politics side of the forum and is possibly the biggest whinger on here

I know that you’re not very good at answering questions that challenge your ridiculous attitudes, but why not just stop coming on to the politics forum. Call it a protest if you want, a protest against the vile people who have unashamedly infiltrated avftt to force their political views on the rest of ‘us’ . Who are your ‘us’?

As for those vile people having no interest in football or, indeed, Blackpool FC, I imagine that most, if not all of the people that you appear to be targeting find your comment more than faintly hilarious
 
I see the government are now going to let European butchers travel here to work in order to negate the shortage of slaughterhouse workers.
HGV drivers, butchers how many other sectors next?
Don’t forget that British citizens are not free to work in the EU though.
Brilliant
Yup, and the only people who can't teach English in Europe now, are...............................the English.
 
That’s pretty rich and pretty comical, too, coming from someone who is never off the politics side of the forum and is possibly the biggest whinger on here

I know that you’re not very good at answering questions that challenge your ridiculous attitudes, but why not just stop coming on to the politics forum. Call it a protest if you want, a protest against the vile people who have unashamedly infiltrated avftt to force their political views on the rest of ‘us’ . Who are your ‘us’?

As for those vile people having no interest in football or, indeed, Blackpool FC, I imagine that most, if not all of the people that you appear to be targeting find your comment more than faintly hilarious
congratulations. It's rare of you to put three paragraphs down. You are usually nothing more than a one line one trick pony. So well done. And thumbs up to your mates.
 
I've changed my mind.Only because of the countless whingeing on here though. The whole politics forum should be scrapped. AVFTT is now an outlet for those with no interest in football and no interest in BFC. It's a convenient place they've stumbled across where some can try and force their political views on the rest of us. And that's being polite. AVFTT was never created for that purpose.
The board was split into politics and football so those who were fed up of the politics threads didn't have to read them.

If you're so against, don't go on it. Surely that's better than imposing cancel culture, one of the things you're complaining about?
 
I read this board as I seek to discover some truths of current reported news. It is an alternative and complement to the main stream media. It provides the added insight of local, and even some global, opinions of a cross section of Blackpool football supporters displaying their wide accumulated knowledge. It would be a loss if it were "scrapped" in my humble opinion.
 
The board was split into politics and football so those who were fed up of the politics threads didn't have to read them.

If you're so against, don't go on it. Surely that's better than imposing cancel culture, one of the things you're complaining about?
thanks for your advice. I'll ignore it if you don't mind. You lefties would believe everything you say would be right if others didn't take you to task..
 
So you'll ignore it and continue to moan how it shouldn't be there, while reading everything? OK. Sounds like a sane, well thought out proposal. 😉
where did i say it was a proposal. I offered an opinion. An opinion that it has brought all you lefties out of the woodwork who now try to force your views on this board. And need I remind you your lefty views were overwhelmingly rejected at the last election. That clearly irritates you lot somewhat doesn't it?
 
where did i say it was a proposal. I offered an opinion. An opinion that it has brought all you lefties out of the woodwork who now try to force your views on this board. And need I remind you your lefty views were overwhelmingly rejected at the last election. That clearly irritates you lot somewhat doesn't it?
"The whole politics forum should be scrapped. AVFTT is now an outlet for those with no interest in football and no interest in BFC. It's a convenient place they've stumbled across where some can try and force their political views on the rest of us. And that's being polite. AVFTT was never created for that purpose."

Sounds like you're making a proposal to me.

Overwhelming in terms of seats, due to Tory gerrymandering of the Electoral Boundaries Commission. Actual vote, not so much so 😉
 
and difficult to get work as a tour guide in Europe for Brits now. So fewer opportunities for young people to work in Europe now. Shot ourselves in the foot.

Speaking as a British tour guide living in the U.K. who has recently returned from guiding a group of Americans and Puerto Rican’s around the Republic of Ireland, I was just wondering where you got your information from, Always
 
Overwhelming in terms of seats, due to Tory gerrymandering of the Electoral Boundaries Commission. Actual vote, not so much so 😉
It wasn't the regular Tory voters that rejected the lefty views. It was the labour voters in the labour stronghold seats. So nice try but no cigar.
 
Overwhelming in terms of seats, due to Tory gerrymandering of the Electoral Boundaries Commission. Actual vote, not so much so 😉
You just make stuff up Wiz. The boundaries haven't changed for years and currently favour the Labour party.

The recent proposal from the non-partisan Boundaries Commission will reset part of that imbalance.
 
Speaking as a British tour guide living in the U.K. who has recently returned from guiding a group of Americans and Puerto Rican’s around the Republic of Ireland, I was just wondering where you got your information from, Always
So, that was doing your bit for climate change then? Pandering to tourists from thousands of miles away doing a tour of the ROI. Hilarious, you hypocrite.
 
🙄 it was either that or glue my left hand to the pavement outside your house and kick you in the bollocks every time you went out
 
Using the bed analogy- we’ve not finished making the bed yet. 😏

Regarding the o/p typical nonsense, come back in 30 years and still say it hasn’t worked. It was always going to be a long term project. Everyone these days wants an instant return. No patience. I blame the parents. 😉
It's not that we are still making the bed it is that we are continuing to shit in our own bed.
I don't think we need to wait 30 years it's already here and it's going to get far far worse, and if people can't wake up and see that this gang of clowns are trying to give the circus away then we are truly fxcked.
Just have a look at how much extra you are paying for lots of things in the shops now.
Internationally we are a laughing stock and a nation that cannot be trusted. Needless to say I am a remainer and I will continue harping on until I see enough positives in brexit though I'll be stunned if I ever get anything significant presented to me particularly by anyone of this board. Don't forget almost half of the country didn't vote for brexit. It's no good saying we just have to get used to it and accept it we are quite within our rights to be thoroughly hacked off, the only thing that will shut me up is being presented with evidence that suggest I may have been wrong and so far I haven't seen anything ... AT ALL.
 
It's not that we are still making the bed it is that we are continuing to shit in our own bed.
I don't think we need to wait 30 years it's already here and it's going to get far far worse, and if people can't wake up and see that this gang of clowns are trying to give the circus away then we are truly fxcked.
Just have a look at how much extra you are paying for lots of things in the shops now.
Internationally we are a laughing stock and a nation that cannot be trusted. Needless to say I am a remainer and I will continue harping on until I see enough positives in brexit though I'll be stunned if I ever get anything significant presented to me particularly by anyone of this board. Don't forget almost half of the country didn't vote for brexit. It's no good saying we just have to get used to it and accept it we are quite within our rights to be thoroughly hacked off, the only thing that will shut me up is being presented with evidence that suggest I may have been wrong and so far I haven't seen anything ... AT ALL.
A lot of us will be dead in 30 years, so stuff that might happen at some point in the distant future is sort of irrelevant.
 
You just make stuff up Wiz. The boundaries haven't changed for years and currently favour the Labour party.

The recent proposal from the non-partisan Boundaries Commission will reset part of that imbalance.
Conservatives garnered 13,966,451 votes and got 365 seats, an average of 38, 264 per seat
Labour, by comparison got 10, 295,912 and got 203 seats, ie 50,718 votes per seat.

Pretty significant difference.
 
I've changed my mind.Only because of the countless whingeing on here though. The whole politics forum should be scrapped. AVFTT is now an outlet for those with no interest in football and no interest in BFC. It's a convenient place they've stumbled across where some can try and force their political views on the rest of us. And that's being polite. AVFTT was never created for that purpose.
C'mon 20, it's always good for a laugh...................................at times!
 
Don't forget almost half of the country didn't vote for brexit.

Wouldn't it be great if the shitted up bed only applied to those who voted for Brexit, unfortunately we all have to suffer. Something of the enormity of Brexit should never have been a first past the post vote anyway it should have had a 60% win on it. To now say we all have to suffer for 30 years is a silly statement. Lets hope it isn't 30 years under the Tories, although the way Labour are shaping up it just may well be.
 
Wouldn't it be great if the shitted up bed only applied to those who voted for Brexit, unfortunately we all have to suffer. Something of the enormity of Brexit should never have been a first past the post vote anyway it should have had a 60% win on it. To now say we all have to suffer for 30 years is a silly statement. Lets hope it isn't 30 years under the Tories, although the way Labour are shaping up it just may well be.
Is that why Spain has now issued a warning of a truck driver shortage?

It seems that where the UK goes the rest of Europe follows.

Isn’t hindsight great. But if remain had won then 50.01% would have been enough
 
Yet you'd close it down. Mixed messages at best.
It's not my decision wiz, only my opinion. I voted against it in the first place and it's probably gone too far to close down now anyway.. So no, no mixed messages at all.
 
Of course it is. That's why i come on this side of the board so often. Plenty of jokers and plenty of posters to wind up..
Who do you actually believe that you wind up, 20’s … oh, and do you feel bullied by Cat?
 
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I've changed my mind.Only because of the countless whingeing on here though. The whole politics forum should be scrapped. AVFTT is now an outlet for those with no interest in football and no interest in BFC. It's a convenient place they've stumbled across where some can try and force their political views on the rest of us. And that's being polite. AVFTT was never created for that purpose.
Been saying this for ages, I’ve cut down in here as it’s just a complete waste of time.
 
Been saying this for ages, I’ve cut down in here as it’s just a complete waste of time.
Some people just can;t get over losing it seems eh. And they accuse you of being a whinger. They are not called Remoaners without reason eh? Remoaners and loony lefties all in one. Lifes a bitch right now for them, you just gotta laugh.😂
 
Retire it and replace it with a Food forum. It will get more views and replies. What’s your favourite jam ?
 
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