Brixton street party

Halifax71 said:
Laughed at Sky news earlier when Adam Boulton effectively cut off the ex met chief for having the audacity to tell the truth.
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From the extremist twitter account @markbot2020 and obviously edited with the jump at the beginning as the presenter cut to the interviewee.

It’s clear the type of views you hold if that’s the sort of thing you follow and circulate.
 
Halifax71 said:
Laughed at Sky news earlier when Adam Boulton effectively cut off the ex met chief for having the audacity to tell the truth.
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Ahh just posted a link on my thread. Was looking for this shortened version.

This sums it up nicely. The media and BLM narrative is shot down with the facts.

The truth the left don't want to even consider.

Again comes down the PC world, if it wasn't as it is all people would be treated equally and not afraid to tackle any community if it commits more crime for fear of being accused of victimising that community.
 
Woolly Mammoth said:
From the extremist twitter account @markbot2020 and obviously edited with the jump at the beginning as the presenter cut to the interviewee.

It’s clear the type of views you hold if that’s the sort of thing you follow and circulate.
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No idea whose account it is. I saw it live and found it via Google. So, you're saying that this didn't happen or there was more context? There wasn't live if that helps - but I take your point about Skynews being extremist 😀
 
Woolly Mammoth said:
From the extremist twitter account @markbot2020 and obviously edited with the jump at the beginning as the presenter cut to the interviewee.

It’s clear the type of views you hold if that’s the sort of thing you follow and circulate.
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I was looking for the video too and posted a separate one, only one I could find that had it in there, does it matter where the clips come from as long as you can see them.

Not sure what editing has to do with it it's real it happened.


Maybe address the facts pointed out in the video that completely go against the narrative the media is trying to push....
 
Halifax71 said:
No idea whose account it is. I saw it live and found it via Google. So, you're saying that this didn't happen or there was more context? There wasn't live if that helps - but I take your point about Skynews being extremist 😀
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Just happened to find it on an extremist twitter account set up this month, location “Englandistan”, yeah right 😆
 
Halifax71 said:
Rather than further evidencing your bigotry there's a simple solution, click the ignore button. 😀
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Why would I ignore you, it’s fascinating reading the views you hold and seeing where you get them from. I looked at that @markbot2020 twitter account and the posts are hilarious, like the sorely missed Katie Hopkins has returned.

I’m also interested in the nature v nurture debate and your brother TAM is a really decent guy so it’s a real interest that you are so, well... different 🤔
 
I see the Blackpool experts on London are out in force......again!
It's so crap down here lads a house four doors down from me sold last month for 1.25m.

Jokers!
 
kuriousoranj said:
I see the Blackpool experts on London are out in force......again!
It's so crap down here lads a house four doors down from me sold last month for 1.25m.

Jokers!
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I’m definitely not proclaiming to be an expert, but on the crime and safety aspect - I simply tried to educate myself researching and evaluating the crime statistics.

I’m not sure anyone in their right mind would disagree property is more expensive is London. However, what relevance has property prices got to do with crime and London being no more dangerous than anywhere else - as one ill judging poster stated?
 
CalmDown said:
I’m definitely not proclaiming to be an expert, but on the crime and safety aspect - I simply tried to educate myself researching and evaluating the crime statistics.

I’m not sure anyone in their right mind would disagree property is more expensive is London. However, what relevance has property prices got to do with crime and London being no more dangerous than anywhere else - as one ill judging poster stated?
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Gosh look at you frothing at the mouth all over this political thread. It doesn't matter what you type getting all angry on this obscure football website. Nothing you say is going prove or change anything........................

You cant repeatedly slag everyone off that posts on this forum and then join in. That would make you a massive hypocrite.
 
basilrobbie said:
Give over. If you've half an ounce of common sense, London is no more dangerous than anywhere else.
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Really?

I’am not sure 22 police officers have been beat up during a rave on the Fylde coast recently but I could be wrong.

In fact it’s not happened in 99.9% of other areas of the country so that statement is just laughable.

And you talk about common sense. 😂
 
Memphisboy said:
22 Police officers injured!

Who’d willingly visit London or Paris nowadays? Totally unsafe. Wouldn’t let my kids go on school trips there anymore.

By the way anyone been to the outskirts of Paris recently Jeez it’s like Mad Max. I actually locked the car whilst driving.
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For the BLM movement to gain respect, the rioting black people of Brixton and Notting Hill need to respect themselves and others.
There are videos on line of them fighting each other, one has been shot, property & police vehicles (which we all pay for) have been trashed, police officers have been attacked with weapons and injured whilst bye-standers film it all and cheer the attackers on. The behaviour is a total disgrace and is damaging to the BLM cause.
I personally am now finished watching and listening to the BLM publicity.
 
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune said:
I’m very unfamiliar with different parts of London. Is there anything similar between Brixton and Notting Hill?
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I moved to London in1985 age 19. In fact I moved in with a Blackpool girl I met one night in Adam and Eve. She lived in a council flat on the Stockwell Road Brixton. It was only temporary (2 weeks) as a couple of my mates from Lancaster (we were all art students) planned to rent a house together. The day I moved in was the evening before the day of the Brixton riots. A black women called Cherry Grose was killed by the police. It was the first time I'd witnessed serious disorder with property and cars on fire only 100m from the flat. I thought FXXk me I hope this isn't a regular Saturday night!

Brixton has done a full circle. Many years ago (before the war) it had been a very middle class area with some of the nicest properties in South London and not too dissimilar to Notting Hill in west London. The Windrush Generation brought a lot of afro Caribbean settlers, mostly to towns across South London particularly Brixton and Peckham. Around the year 2000 most parts of London were beginning to gentrify including Brixton as property prices continue to rise. It's now one of the most expensive areas to live in South London. A lot of white middle class couples started buying homes in and around the town. It's a fantastic vibrant mix now and has become more like Notting Hill. Notting Hill though is astronomical and has some of the highest property prices anywhere in the world. Like most British cities it's fragmented and has areas of serious social deprivation. Walk though either and the change from street to street is obvious but generally both are safe. People from all parts of the world living together in harmony! :)

The experience of living in London for most of my life and after prolonged Tory rule we do see a general pattern of an underclass, serious poverty and deprivation.. a time-bomb ticking and it's coming again.
 
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Brett scores for fun said:
For the BLM movement to gain respect, the rioting black people of Brixton and Notting Hill need to respect themselves and others.
There are videos on line of them fighting each other, one has been shot, property & police vehicles (which we all pay for) have been trashed, police officers have been attacked with weapons and injured whilst bye-standers film it all and cheer the attackers on. The behaviour is a total disgrace and is damaging to the BLM cause.
I personally am now finished watching and listening to the BLM publicity.
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So if any black people break the law that means you can't support BLM ?

I think we see the crux of the matter and what BLM are trying to change in your logic.
 
kuriousoranj said:
I moved to London in1985 age 19. In fact I moved in with a Blackpool girl I met one night in Adam and Eve. She lived in a council flat on the Stockwell Road Brixton. It was only temporary (2 weeks) as a couple of my mates from Lancaster (we were all art students) planned to rent a house together. The day I moved in was the evening before the day of the Brixton riots. A black women called Cherry Grose was killed by the police. It was the first time I'd witnessed serious disorder with property and cars on fire only 100m from the flat. I thought FXXk me I hope this isn't a regular Saturday night!

Brixton has done a full circle. Many years ago (before the war) it had been a very middle class area with some of the nicest properties in South London and not too dissimilar to Notting Hill in west London. The Windrush Generation brought a lot of afro Caribbean settlers, mostly to towns across South London particularly Brixton and Peckham. Around the year 2000 most parts of London were beginning to gentrify including Brixton as property prices continue to rise. It's now one of the most expensive areas to live in South London. A lot of white middle class couples started buying homes in and around the town. It's a fantastic vibrant mix now and has become more like Notting Hill. Notting Hill though is astronomical and has some of the highest property prices anywhere in the world. Like most British cities it's fragmented and has areas of serious social deprivation. Walk though either and the change from street to street is obvious but generally both are safe. People from all parts of the world living together in harmony! :)

The experience of living in London for most of my life and after prolonged Tory rule we do see a general pattern of an underclass, serious poverty and deprivation.. a time-bomb ticking and it's coming again.
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A fantastic vibrant mix. That’s my first thought when you hear gunshots and hordes of marauding youths outside 😀
 
It's not often that I agree with Kurios, but he is on the money on this one.

London DOES have many problems, and they are serious ones. It does have pockets of deprivation, and they are bad. It is also a vibrant, multi-cultural city and in the centre of town I don't think I have EVER felt unsafe in the thirty years that I have lived here.

Until you have experienced life in that kind of environment I don't really see how you can be authoritative about it, let alone generalise about it in the way that the closet racists who came out to play on this thread have done. I live in one of the poorest and most violent Boroughs in London, and I've never heard "gunshots", or seen "hordes of marauding youths" - ever.
 
I'd also agree with Robbie & Kurious. Lived here for 20 years and never felt in danger. Crime is crime the country and world over. The common denominator is almost always linked to social conditions in a location rather than who lives there...
 
Racists quote them as being full of violent gangsters when they're not?
 
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Halifax71 said:
Another extremist source to add to the Sky News one.
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He says many true points and this I feel is key.

'The criminal black element behind the black lives movement, what they love is tension between the police and communities, they like that mistrust because what it means is they can carry our their crimes with immunity and impunity'.

He reiterates the nonsense with the allegations against our police with the facts, which show there is no mistreatment of that community more than any other, just police dealing with what's in front of them.

If anything as seen police are frightened to deal with them for fear of appearing to be against that community.

Why won't some people on here and in the media acknowledge this.

Rather than listen to this guy or that ex police chief who said the same, for some its probably easier to call them all racist. What a joke.
 
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Memphisboy said:
A fantastic vibrant mix. That’s my first thought when you hear gunshots and hordes of marauding youths outside 😀
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Never heard a gunshot in my 35 years down here, seen a few school kids and young lads all walking the street together. BUT you know best!
You should write a book and call it 'Living in Fear'

You're just typically fearful of the unknown...sad really! 😟
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I’m getting thoroughly hacked off with this board and it’s moderators.
When I asked earlier if anyone knew what was common between Notting Hill and Brixton, it gets removed for ‘implied’ racism.

Now I’m not letting that pass so easily. If we can’t debate what are common connections between different groups then the underlying causes are being deliberately ignored. And therefore cannot faces up to and tackled.
The commonality may be age, social deprivation, gender, gangs or criminality or many things. But no, you assume it’s race and censor. Crassly overstepping the mark and killing this board.
One more strike like that and I’m off and flouncing back to the old board. So be warned.
 
How dare you insinuate that I’m some sort of soft lad,afraid of different cultures, the type who’s never left his village. I’m extremely cosmopolitan, shop in Preston if Blackpool doesn’t stock certain things, love foreign food etc etc. You London based lads aren‘t the only ones who like a bit of variety.
 
Matesrates said:
The BLM movement started with the right agenda, trying to get better, safer lives for black people, but it’s got out of hand and it seems to me that an element are interpreting the reaction and support for their cause as carter blanch to do what they like, especially against the police.
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It did for many following it and the cause was good in its message, of course their lives should matter and as far as I've ever seen they do just as much. Although there is still some knuckle dragges sadly in society who feel they can shoit stuff at football matches etc.

Saying about the cause... the event that caused all this was more police brutality than a clear race issue and seems jumped on by BLM, who seem to go quiet when black on black killings happen or peoples business are ruined, black people killed because of the riots and protesting.

Still seen no evidence the officer did it because he was black. Anyone in the public realm who questioned it was basically forced to apologise or face the angry mob and face trial by media. What happened to actual facts and evidence? If a black cop kills a white man horribly is it automatically about race? Nope.

The police need to get a grip and stick together. If a certain group are causing trouble don't hesitate to use all powers to stop them. The police are the authority not mobs.

If mobs are going to start screaming injustices after causing mayhem then it's just tough. The media are part of the problem only too happy to paint one side of the story and exposed in that sky news interview.
 
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune said:
I’m getting thoroughly hacked off with this board and it’s moderators.
When I asked earlier if anyone knew what was common between Notting Hill and Brixton, it gets removed for ‘implied’ racism.

Now I’m not letting that pass so easily. If we can’t debate what are common connections between different groups then the underlying causes are being deliberately ignored. And therefore cannot faces up to and tackled.
The commonality may be age, social deprivation, gender, gangs or criminality or many things. But no, you assume it’s race and censor. Crassly overstepping the mark and killing this board.
One more strike like that and I’m off and flouncing back to the old board. So be warned.
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JJpool said:
It did for many following it and the cause was good in its message, of course their lives should matter and as far as I've ever seen they do just as much. Although there is still some knuckle dragges sadly in society who feel they can shoit stuff at football matches etc.

Saying about the cause... the event that caused all this was more police brutality than a clear race issue and seems jumped on by BLM, who seem to go quiet when black on black killings happen or peoples business are ruined, black people killed because of the riots and protesting.

Still seen no evidence the officer did it because he was black. Anyone in the public realm who questioned it was basically forced to apologise or face the angry mob and face trial by media. What happened to actual facts and evidence? If a black cop kills a white man horribly is it automatically about race? Nope.

The police need to get a grip and stick together. If a certain group are causing trouble don't hesitate to use all powers to stop them. The police are the authority not mobs.

If mobs are going to start screaming injustices after causing mayhem then it's just tough. The media are part of the problem only too happy to paint one side of the story and exposed in that sky news interview.
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When I asked earlier if anyone knew what was common between Notting Hill and Brixton ...

Is the answer Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant?
 
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune said:
I’m getting thoroughly hacked off with this board and it’s moderators.
When I asked earlier if anyone knew what was common between Notting Hill and Brixton, it gets removed for ‘implied’ racism.

Now I’m not letting that pass so easily. If we can’t debate what are common connections between different groups then the underlying causes are being deliberately ignored.
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Except you didn't "debate" it, did you? Just posted your sly little comment and left others to do the dirty work for you.

I saw the post, knew exactly what you meant and I'm pleased that the Mods are dealing with this. This board has had some fantastic, high quality debate in the last three months. Its a shame that it also has attracted an unsavoury element as well. If you are thinking about flouncing, it will be your loss, not ours.
 
Macseasider said:
Gosh look at you frothing at the mouth all over this political thread. It doesn't matter what you type getting all angry on this obscure football website. Nothing you say is going prove or change anything........................

You cant repeatedly slag everyone off that posts on this forum and then join in. That would make you a massive hypocrite.
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I was merely stating the facts - is that known in your world as “frothing” ?

I thought facts might add to the debate, as opposed to abuse... My bad, you have my apologies 😂
 
CalmDown said:
Cheers pal 🍻

So it was an abusive kinda insult from the ultra peaceful and “can do no wrong” type of poster as @Wizaard

Not sure why they get so angry😂 Life is far too short !!!
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Chilled as can be in this weather. Abusive insult? Get a grip, snowflake. (There's another). Meanwhile loony Left is perfectly acceptable? Looking forward to you naming people for that.
 
basilrobbie said:
Until you have experienced life in that kind of environment I don't really see how you can be authoritative about it, let alone generalise about it in the way that the closet racists who came out to play on this thread have done.
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So, how do you know posters who’ve commented, have never experienced that kind of environment?


Who are the closet racists on the thread, oh wise one?

Name, names...
 
Wizaard said:
Chilled as can be in this weather. Abusive insult? Get a grip, snowflake. (There's another). Meanwhile loony Left is perfectly acceptable? Looking forward to you naming people for that.
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I’m not personally offended, I was merely pointing out you’re one of the first to cry wolf - and yet, you’re quite fond of dishing out the abuse, when it suits 😃

Hypocrisy in its finest guise!

Enjoy the weather (grey and overcast in Blackpool, not that your type would know 🙂)
 
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