Can Yates or Lavery play as a lone striker?

Shiggy

Shiggy

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Judging by MA’s comments we might be more likely to play with one forward this season.

But can Yates or Lavery do it at this level? I’m not too convinced.
 
Not unless we have more creativity in midfield and the midfield play much closer to the front man than last season. I think we missed Carey massively last season after his injury. Jerry often looked a frustrated figure when he made decent runs but either the ball went backwards (a lot) or the ball was played too late and he was off side.

All 3 main strikers had games (or parts of games) where they played as lone striker, and none succeeded, although it wasn't entirely their fault as many threads about poor service have already pointed out.

Some championship sides had a striker who was quick, and also a good target man. We had those qualities, but in Madine plus Lavery/Yates.
 
Nope, we haven't got anyone who can, we'd be better playing 3 up front and interchanging with an attacking midfielder behind them an 2 midfielders behind that and a back 4 and the full backs able to push up.
 
Of course they can if they get service, look at Man City and Liverpool, no big centre forwards there, we’ll there hasn’t been up to now, but Erling Haaland arriving will change that
 
hertfordseasider said:
Nope, we haven't got anyone who can, we'd be better playing 3 up front and interchanging with an attacking midfielder behind them an 2 midfielders behind that and a back 4 and the full backs able to push up.
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Agree, but I fear we don't have the players.

I've said before MA may be forced to play a bit more defensive than we'd hoped. And perhaps Quitbitch did so for that reason.
 
fcblackpool said:
Agree, but I fear we don't have the players.

I've said before MA may be forced to play a bit more defensive than we'd hoped. And perhaps Quitbitch did so for that reason.
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All down to who we get in. The loans could be absolutely crucial. Mind you a front 3 of Bowler, Yates & Lavery may be decent?
 
Depends on how we set up, with three or even four midfielders getting forward plus full backs they could get decent service. But with a largely defensively set up midfield then no, but I would say no attacker will do well in that circumstance. Would like to see us try the pair of them together.
 
fcblackpool said:
Tin hat. Bowler is too slow in release in a dynamic front 3.
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So is Anderson. Would a middle 3 of Dougall, Carey, and Connelly with a front 3 of Hamilton, Yates and Dale be worth a go?
If we sold Bowler and Anderson it might be possible to get a couple of players better than those we currently have.
But getting back to the original point both Bowler and Anderson are guilty of keeping hold of the ball for too long instead of playing a quick pass at the right time.
 
I feel that Sonny Carey may be the answer to our service problem. We need to find a way to avoid championship giants trodding on him though.
 
Nope, as already posted above, they just don’t have the physicality, Cardiff at the start of last season was one example where they showed this up. Madine when on form is our best bet (with Jerry or Shane playing off him) but how many games does he actually play in when things click for him ?
 
gjr69 said:
So is Anderson. Would a middle 3 of Dougall, Carey, and Connelly with a front 3 of Hamilton, Yates and Dale be worth a go?
If we sold Bowler and Anderson it might be possible to get a couple of players better than those we currently have.
But getting back to the original point both Bowler and Anderson are guilty of keeping hold of the ball for too long instead of playing a quick pass at the right time.
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Sorry but if CJ is the answer then we're fucked. He simply isn't good enough for this level and showed it time and time again last year. He gets away with his race pace in League One.

But if we're heading into a new Championship season with those two on the wings, we might as well start looking at League One away days.
 
Short answer is yes, but they need good support wide and in behind as someone mentioned above re the Man City example prior to Haaland joining.
 
I wouldn’t call Jamie Vardy a physical lad but he plays the lone striker role brilliantly for Leicester. I can seriously see Lavery playing that same type of role.
 
I think the answer is it depends.
If we play direct football you would have to put Gary in the middle with Yates or Lavery or god forbid both to feed off him.
If we play more in the style of Citeh, who typically play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 (or total football basically) and play without a big target man, then Yates or Lavery could be on their own. However its very rare when you watch Citeh that they only have one player in or around the box.
So if we move more to a more attacking based system, back 4 with atacking FBs, 1 holding mid-fielder, the other 5 can just go out and enjoy themselves and before you know we'll be European Champions.
I just can't understand how I didn't get the Managers job. It must have been when I said I'd leave 2 up for a corner, or 3 if we were losing, which of course we never would. 😂
 
SeasideKurt said:
Sorry but if CJ is the answer then we're fucked. He simply isn't good enough for this level and showed it time and time again last year. He gets away with his race pace in League One.

But if we're heading into a new Championship season with those two on the wings, we might as well start looking at League One away days.
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They are probably two of the players that I was thinking we could upgrade on the back of Bowler and Anderson going.
You could go with Bowler and Anderson in a front 3 either side of Yates but they have to be told to play for the team. Anderson in particular holds on to the ball for way too long and Bowler runs down too many blind alleys when he could make a simple pass to a well placed team mate.
 
I think the problem is the ‘lone’ bit, none of our strikers are good enough against a defence by themselves, they all need support. When Jerry was played up front by himself he did lack support and struggled.

If we’re going to play one Central striker I would play Jerry as I still think he’s our best but he needs a run and he needs to take it. Carey in the hole supporting him and Keshi/Bowler off the wings could be really exciting if it clicks. We’ve already got a pretty solid foundation.
 
It's not a set up that I've ever liked, at any level. That said, two up front in a 4-4-2 requires good wingers with excellent delivery into the box, whilst 4-3-3 requires supreme fitness, good vision and good carrying skills across the midfield 3.
 
The strikers, we currently got at the club.
Will not score 30+ goals between them
Just take a look at the strikers, that
Bournmouth, & Fulham had last season.
Tells you why they were promoted. If
Blackpool want to be any were near the top, & beyond. This problem needs to be solved.
 
I think both can, it's just whether they're supported and whether we have someone who can play the balls in behind or down the channels.

If we play a formation that leaves them isolated and we have Dougall playing balls to their midriff when they have their backs to goal then absolutely not.

Lavery needs to be between the sticks, it's where the majority of his goals come from ala Bristil City and Bournmouth away, Milwall and Boro at home etc (with the ball) and pressing without it.
 
Yates and Lavery in a 442.
Otherwise Jerry needs good service from midfield if he's up on his own. Lavery not strong enough on his own up front. Maybe playing behind ok.
 
Yates probably could if the ball is too chase or to his feet, he can hold it, no point if we're lumping it in obviously.
 
Hopefully it’s not as a lone striker its as part of a 3 plus support from the 3 behind! Because if you isolate any of our strikers they’re not good enough on their own.
 
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