Tangerinenick
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Nope.I sense there might be a long standing grudge at play.
Just my opinion/experience having worked in both local government and in my own business for 35 years.
Nope.I sense there might be a long standing grudge at play.
Sorry my post wasn’t directed at you. It was referring to the spat between the two previous posters. Bit of history I suspectNope.
Just my opinion/experience having worked in both local government and in my own business for 35 years.
Of course you were.
Sorry my post wasn’t directed at you. It was referring to the spat between the two previous posters. Bit of history I suspect
Nope.
Just my opinion/experience having worked in both local government and in my own business for 35 years.
Or become a community based tradesman...If you cannot succeed in business privately or as an individual then become a civil servant.
How many bleeding times....the civil service is accountable to the elected Government, not to the general public.My OP posed some points on a political forum. Mainly whether The Civil Service has a part to play in developing and implementing policy for the current Government - and if so, are they exempt from being held to account, and or, to be questioned by the electorate, and does their work actually mean inadvertently the Ministers carry the can for their ill judgement.
Of course I’m not maligning millions of people I have never met, don’t be so dramatic.
I am simply questioning the ability of a proportion of people in these positions, and pointing out the fact they often serve under many differing Governments, and they maybe mistake prone, make ill judged calls, and now you mention it, not politically impartial.
How many bleeding times....the civil service is accountable to the elected Government, not to the general public.
If you cannot succeed in business privately or as an individual then become a civil servant.
The poster CalmDown thinks the political forum on AVFTT is ridiculous and laughable.
And so he (or she, or they) are never off it getting all hepped up and none too jolly over these pages. Bless.
Poor CalmDown. Deep breaths and relax.........
If you cannot succeed in business privately or as an individual then become a civil servant.
You really are a ......and where do you work Trammo, what have you achieved that we can all view?Baz was asked to leave aged 27 as he insisted in writing with a quill and failed to embrace what was considered modern technology at the time. His £4.33 a month Civil Service pension is the lowest ever recorded according to the Guinness Book Of Failures.
As a matter of interest Nick, how do you account for those people who manage to make a success of both public and private sectors?
I'm very interested in your theory on why - by your definition - I seem to have been quite extraordinary.
Why bother finding the good in things when you can cherry pick your personal vendettas and use them to castigate a whole service. You, sir, are a charlatan.They , like yourself ,are as rare as chickens teeth. You are indeed extraordinary.
For me leaving local government was like finally saying goodbye to Mr Incompetence, adios Mrs Useless, adieu Mr Coffee break, and sayanora to Miss jobs worth. Plenty of those types in the private sector as well but I don't have to deal with them.
They , like yourself ,are as rare as chickens teeth. You are indeed extraordinary.
For me leaving local government was like finally saying goodbye to Mr Incompetence, adios Mrs Useless, adieu Mr Coffee break, and sayanora to Miss jobs worth. Plenty of those types in the private sector as well but I don't have to deal with them.
Why bother finding the good in things when you can cherry pick your personal vendettas and use them to castigate a whole service. You, sir, are a charlatan.
Charlatans make up a large proportion of middle managers in local government and the civil service. I sir, am a geezer.
He wont be busting any inflation rates on that.Anyway he went to work for MI6 but isnt allowed to tell anyone,and was given the job of infiltrating an embassy in London. When he asked 'Russian?' they said 'no, just take your time like you usually do '.Baz was asked to leave aged 27 as he insisted in writing with a quill and failed to embrace what was considered modern technology at the time. His £4.33 a month Civil Service pension is the lowest ever recorded according to the Guinness Book Of Failures.
Those are good qualities Nick so there's no need to go on about the public services as if it's all tea breaks and skiving, when that's far from the case.Edit. I was often in trouble during my 25 years in social care mainly because I didn't suffer fools and my good northern common-sense often rubbed people up the wrong way. If there was an elephant in the room I pointed it out. Wasn't afraid of questioning and looking at other perspectives. One of the reasons I like most of the posters on AVFTT is that they have those qualities.