CJ Hamilton signs new contract

Happy with this, he's improved alot this season and hopefully he carries on as hes been a key player for us. This should also scare away any interested parties in January.
 
Sandgrown1 said:
No one mentioning Marvin? Get him signed up ffs!!!! Have we played a binder by not playing him much or has it meant he IS on the radar for other clubs after him on a free? He will 100% be a valuable first teamer again and the same with Lyon’s but I think he’s with us on contract still? Get Marv signed asap and then those mentioned above. After they are signed have a sweep out with a few players going at least. Tharme, maybe Thompson although he’s decent at L1, I’m 50/50 on Carey, 50/50 on Dale, 50/50 on Morgan despite him playing a blinder of a second half v Barnsley and there’s one or two others too. Anyway, sweep some out n maybe look to sign just a couple of decent players. No scattergun approach where 1 in 3 or 4 work out.
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I believe there was a contract for Marv drawn up and passed to him...

However, he gave it away under no pressure sadly.















Only joking Marv, an excellent defender when he's at it.
 
Simonized said:
That stat is great but I would imagine it doesn't include how many of those chances went to the first defender instead of one of our forwards.

Also, does it include a cross into our area?
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You used stats to criticise Maxwell and that was backed up by what we saw.

Yet with CJ the stats are there, clear as day and most can see he's performed well generally.

You don't seem to hold the same level of criticism when other players make a mistake, yet hardly any can do what CJ does.

The stat proves a point, if he's somehow the best in division for chances created, despite your claimed passes to the 1st defender etc, then he must be some player to be performing in a mixed way, yet smashing league 1 still.

Even if he was passing to their players or crossing poorly, which he generally isn't, when he does get it right he must really be getting it right. To be getting it wrong so much and still to be 1st it would show that other players either don't get it right too or that he just gets into dangerous areas far more often, to be able to put a ball in, good or bad.

Either way, he's making some eat their words.

Players can't live with his pace, he isn't perfect but he's a great lad, improving, produces quality moments and is a big asset.
 
Glad we've secured his services for another few seasons, I've always though he's well worth a place (if used correctly) I'm really pleased for him & he has improved of late & broadened his game. 👍
 
JJpool said:
You used stats to criticise Maxwell and that was backed up by what we saw.

Yet with CJ the stats are there, clear as day and most can see he's performed well generally.

You don't seem to hold the same level of criticism when other players make a mistake, yet hardly any can do what CJ does.

The stat proves a point, if he's somehow the best in division for chances created, despite your claimed passes to the 1st defender etc, then he must be some player to be performing in a mixed way, yet smashing league 1 still.

Even if he was passing to their players or crossing poorly, which he generally isn't, when he does get it right he must really be getting it right. To be getting it wrong so much and still to be 1st it would show that other players either don't get it right too or that he just gets into dangerous areas far more often, to be able to put a ball in, good or bad.

Either way, he's making some eat their words.

Players can't live with his pace, he isn't perfect but he's a great lad, improving, produces quality moments and is a big asset.
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My problem with him is the way he is played by Critchley and then the player himself compounding it by not having the slightest clue what to do in that position.

Most of that falls at Critchley's feet for asking a not-technically-gifted player to play outside his comfort zone.
Then you have CJ who played correctly and then can be a weapon, but he is so inconsistent how do you go from a world-beater one half(very occasionally a full game) to not being able to recognise a football the next?

The bar is set so low for him by fans and the manager as to a good performance is and how he doesn't get hooked is quite staggering some games but that's down to Critchley again.
I would love to see actual wingbacks start a first-team game just so I could be proven right or wrong.
CJ playing in a position that is so alien to him that it's quite frankly embarrassing and even comical to the point he has managed to tackle himself and put a cross into his own box.

I honestly do think there is a decent player in there but not at wingback though.

As for Maxwell, he was poor long before most people realised except me and a few others.
He might have got away with it if it wasn't for the shocking stats difference between himself and Grimmy.
 
Simonized said:
My problem with him is the way he is played by Critchley and then the player himself compounding it by not having the slightest clue what to do in that position.

Most of that falls at Critchley's feet for asking a not-technically-gifted player to play outside his comfort zone.
Then you have CJ who played correctly and then can be a weapon, but he is so inconsistent how do you go from a world-beater one half(very occasionally a full game) to not being able to recognise a football the next?

The bar is set so low for him by fans and the manager as to a good performance is and how he doesn't get hooked is quite staggering some games but that's down to Critchley again.
I would love to see actual wingbacks start a first-team game just so I could be proven right or wrong.
CJ playing in a position that is so alien to him that it's quite frankly embarrassing and even comical to the point he has managed to tackle himself and put a cross into his own box.

I honestly do think there is a decent player in there but not at wingback though.

As for Maxwell, he was poor long before most people realised except me and a few others.
He might have got away with it if it wasn't for the shocking stats difference between himself and Grimmy.
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I think he's proven he's a pretty good wingback and if that's not his best position he's done even better to get the stats he has got then.

He's also good at getting back and using his pace to close opposition players down.

The bar isn't set low, it's just people judge others by different standards.

CJ can have the odd poor pass vs someone who passes it and keeps it moving more often. But they won't run past 2 players like they're not there and put it on a plate for Rhodes to win us the game, for e.g.

I was on that same Maxwell train, as the stats and people eyes didn't lie, he kept making mistakes and we were as shaky as I can remember from crosses.
 
Good news this, been hit and miss but been brilliant this season and would be a massive loss, especially to lose him to another team in this division
 
What's the ** point when we are playing him as wing back. If I was CJ, I would have left citing the reason that I am being asked to play some over complicated bollocks of a position.
 
Well earned and good to see the club keeping ahold of assets that the previously ownership would have undoubtedly flogged for a few hundred k whilst creaming themselves.

Lets hope he can keep improving, he's 28 so you're not going to see much evolution of his game I feel but if he can keep up his current form for the rest of the season he's more than worth the contract.
 
BlackpoolJord said:
Jesus Christ if this is the level of ambition we have we are going to be stuck outside the championship for 30 years again.
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To get into the championship you have to get out of this league first. Very few league one teams in history can attract championship level talent, even teams like Ipswich, Derby, Portsmouth, CJ would have been happily snapped up by the majority of the teams in the top half of this division, signing him to a new contract does show ambition. But yeah, if we got promoted we would need better.
 
Simonized said:
That stat is great but I would imagine it doesn't include how many of those chances went to the first defender instead of one of our forwards.

Also, does it include a cross into our area?
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A statistic ix just that......he's created more than any other player in the division.
He's our player yet still you find a reason to put a negative slant on it.
If he was playing for another team and linked with a move to us you'd be wetting yourself with excitement.
 
Even with millions to spend you couldn’t replace his pace. He’s not the complete player but as long as we continue to use him to his strengths he’s a great player for us.
 
Good news. CJ has had a good season, so far. Got his pace back after injury, and improving all the time.
 
Macseasider said:
FFS. More people getting hit in the face with a football in rows G to P in the North and South stands.
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A bit of a sweeping statement, me thinks. I mean, if the fans you mention, i.e. those occupying the relevant spots in the stands you refer to, on seeing CJ about to attempt a cross, wisely decide to either duck or take alternative evasive action well in advance, contrary to what you might say, should that not actually 'reduce' the numbers who find themselves suffering the idignity of being hit in the old 'boat race'? I take your point but, knowing CJ as we all do, is it not the case that the majority out there are actually forewarned and are half-anticipating the possibility of that particular turn of events unfolding anyway? I know I would be!
 
One of our best players so far this season and now one of the first names on the team sheet, but mot good enough for some on avftt. I love this platform 😂
 
Brilliant to have tied down for longer.

He stays, at have a great player.
He goes, we get a higher fee.

That's good work.

And I've said it since I saw him play; he is good in his own right and he makes other teams set up differently.

With him and Dembele starting to click; it's a headache for the opposition.
 
TSSeasider said:
Brilliant to have tied down for longer.

He stays, at have a great player.
He goes, we get a higher fee.

That's good work.

And I've said it since I saw him play; he is good in his own right and he makes other teams set up differently.

With him and Dembele starting to click; it's a headache for the opposition.
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I'm all for the plaudits being directed at Dembele, but, sorry, can't quite get my head around the love-in being directed so 'gushingly' in the direction of Christopher Hamilton. I mean: what's all that about?
 
tarantula said:
I'm all for the plaudits being directed at Dembele, but, sorry, can't quite get my head around the love-in being directed so 'gushingly' in the direction of Christopher Hamilton. I mean: what's all that about?
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He's great

I've liked him since we first signed him and defended him plenty of times of here.

And Dougall for that matter

Too many fans expect far too much every game.

CJ is a good footballer.
 
Not his best game today but adds moments of danger and adds to the threat we can offer.

They can't always mark him, Rhodes, Dembele etc.
 
TSSeasider said:
He's great

I've liked him since we first signed him and defended him plenty of times of here.

And Dougall for that matter

Too many fans expect far too much every game.

CJ is a good footballer.
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"I've liked him since we first signed him and defended him plenty of times of [Sic] here." And I must stress your use of the word 'plenty' quoted there.

Forgive me for asking, but does that implied (by your good self) level of criticism against CJ, not occasionally give you cause to question your role as his self-appointed defender-in-chief on here? Because I know it would me - to the absolute nth degree!
 
tarantula said:
"I've liked him since we first signed him and defended him plenty of times of [Sic] here." And I must stress your use of the word 'plenty' quoted there.

Forgive me for asking, but does that implied (by your good self) level of criticism against CJ, not occasionally give you cause to question your role as his self-appointed defender-in-chief on here? Because I know it would me - to the absolute nth degree!
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You are clearly a WUM my friend and a simple Simon clone. You have seen the CJ Stat that displays him as L1 most dangerous wide player? Of course you have but, alas, you are as simple as your mate Simon. Hey ho.
 
JJpool said:
Not his best game today but adds moments of danger and adds to the threat we can offer.

They can't always mark him, Rhodes, Dembele etc.
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There were times yesterday when he sat too deep and midfield were playing square balls to him. He should have been pressing further forward.
However, we are better with him than without him.
 
tarantula said:
"I've liked him since we first signed him and defended him plenty of times of [Sic] here." And I must stress your use of the word 'plenty' quoted there.

Forgive me for asking, but does that implied (by your good self) level of criticism against CJ, not occasionally give you cause to question your role as his self-appointed defender-in-chief on here? Because I know it would me - to the absolute nth degree!
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"Self appointed defender in chief" 😂

I just think there are posters who don't rate a particular player and struggle to move beyond it. CJ is one of those.

Dougall has been brilliant since he joined us too, but he got plenty of stick when he was trying to run midfield on his own.

Mine was Maxwell; there were times when he'd make a brilliant save and I'd think he's a good keeper; then he'd flop to the ground, not come for a cross, blame everyone else for goals we conceded and, I'd go back to my original feelings of "he isn't good enough" - and plenty of fans would disagree with me and that's fine.

CJ is a good footballer and I am delighted we've got him for longer; it's good business by the club.
 
tarantula said:
A bit of a sweeping statement, me thinks. I mean, if the fans you mention, i.e. those occupying the relevant spots in the stands you refer to, on seeing CJ about to attempt a cross, wisely decide to either duck or take alternative evasive action well in advance, contrary to what you might say, should that not actually 'reduce' the numbers who find themselves suffering the idignity of being hit in the old 'boat race'? I take your point but, knowing CJ as we all do, is it not the case that the majority out there are actually forewarned and are half-anticipating the possibility of that particular turn of events unfolding anyway? I know I would be!
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Made me laugh out loud this 😆
 
basilexile said:
There were times yesterday when he sat too deep and midfield were playing square balls to him. He should have been pressing further forward.
However, we are better with him than without him.
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Does the whole thing not put you in mind of trying to commit to a split from a long-term partner? Can't live with them; can't live without them? I just hope CJ has some grasp of the turmoil he is creating!
 
tango94 said:
Every Club in this league would be very happy to have CJ as an option.
Ditto Rhodes.
Ditto Dembele.
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Do not, for one minute, delude yourself into thinking CJ should be placed in the same category occupied by Messers Rhodes and Dembele. If I was them, seeing that, I'd be straight on the blower to my brief ...
 
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