Critch and Charlie

Lala said:
Critchley - Even if you get past the last time he left abruptly how would we be sure he wouldn't just disappear again and leave us in the lurch as soon as he saw a better offer come his way.

No, no, no, no and definitely no !

We have no such trust issues with Dobbie amongst all the other positives he would bring 👍
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Once bitten 'n all that...
 
Michael Appleton left the Pool, was a poor manager and went on to be a poor manager. Reappointing was a bad idea. The difference is Critchley exceeded expectations here so the poster above presumably bought a season ticket for Micheal Appleton, but wouldn’t do so for Critchley.

You can’t compare the two managers and also the rationale for reappointing both. Silly Billies
 
Lala said:
Critchley - Even if you get past the last time he left abruptly how would we be sure he wouldn't just disappear again and leave us in the lurch as soon as he saw a better offer come his way.

No, no, no, no and definitely no !

We have no such trust issues with Dobbie amongst all the other positives he would bring 👍
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It’s stuff like this I don’t get. Left abruptly? Did you want it more drawn out? Do you think Dobbie wouldn’t leave if a better offer come along?
 
I wonder if with some of the more odd names mentioned, if the club is going down the classic misdirection method.

Make fans think we'll be appointing someone like Neil Mcdonald, Appleton returning etc and then appoint the obvious Dobbie all along.

That way it'll feel even more more triumphant. 😉

All we need now is Nixon to confirm Appleton, McCarthy etc have been spoken to.
 
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King Billy said:
It’s stuff like this I don’t get. Left abruptly? Did you want it more drawn out? Do you think Dobbie wouldn’t leave if a better offer come along?
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More drawn out as in saying goodbye to the fans ?
Ye, I think I expected that at least.

And I think Dobbie has more of an affinity with the club to not do that.

Like it or not he left a sour taste in the mouths of some fans. Why can’t we just avoid any past managers that have left any kind of negative vibes. It can’t be that difficult.
 
Nobody was more disappointed than me when Critchley walked out on us . I.blame him for where we ended up but he certainly knows how to set a team up and for 2 seasons his only fault was late substitutions and changing the team every week.
I wouldn't mind Critchley and Dobbie as our dream team they would complement each other I'm sure.
 
Born tangerine said:
Nobody was more disappointed than me when Critchley walked out on us . I.blame him for where we ended up but he certainly knows how to set a team up and for 2 seasons his only fault was late substitutions and changing the team every week.
I wouldn't mind Critchley and Dobbie as our dream team they would complement each other I'm sure.
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I was devastated, I remember I was coming home on the bus from a day's shopping in Galway and my phone pinged up club statement. It was a heartbreaker nearly balled my eyes out
 
JJpool said:
Dobbie now has completed his crash course in management.

He now is way more experienced than Critchley was on his arrival. Given he's actually played the game at a good level and not only that, he did it for us, so he knows exactly the pressures, fans, the club and can pass that onto the players.

His coaching methods have been praised, he's coming across well and getting a response from players.

The style is good, decent football and we even saw good pressing considering who we had available.

He has absolutely no baggage and has tons of positives the other way and lots of goodwill.
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Critchley had actually filled in as First Team Manager at Liverpool and was waaay more experienced / qualified than Dobbie.

The Club needs to be thorough, to go through a proper process and avoid the kind of heart over head, impulsive decision making that is a regular feature on this forum.
 
No to critchley from me. No to Charlie from me
After all Dobbie has shown and done these last 6 games it’s a definate YES from me and he should at least be given the chance to prove himself in league one.
Critchley returning would split the fan base big time and that’s the last thing we need right now
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Critchley had actually filled in as First Team Manager at Liverpool and was waaay more experienced / qualified than Dobbie.

The Club needs to be thorough, to go through a proper process and avoid the kind of heart over head, impulsive decision making that is a regular feature on this forum.
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1 game wasn't it, he's never really played himself like Dobbie has so I'd say Dobbie has far better knowledge and relatable knowledge to us and the leagues we play in.

Critchley operated at an amazing setup no doubt, but it was all talented kids football.

Different experience really, but those who say Dobbie doesn't have any are wrong.
 
the_dog said:
Don't think I'd buy a season ticket if he returned.
Judge someone on their recent form and not their past history.
Failed miserably at QPR and interesting how their form improved once he'd left.
No from me.
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Beat me to it - awful at qpr
 
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Neil Quitchley? The manner in which he left, he can go and do one as far as I'm concerned.
 
the_dog said:
Don't think I'd buy a season ticket if he returned.
Judge someone on their recent form and not their past history.
Failed miserably at QPR and interesting how their form improved once he'd left.
No from me.
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The form got worse
 
JJpool said:
1 game wasn't it, he's never really played himself like Dobbie has so I'd say Dobbie has far better knowledge and relatable knowledge to us and the leagues we play in.

Critchley operated at an amazing setup no doubt, but it was all talented kids football.

Different experience really, but those who say Dobbie doesn't have any are wrong.
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It doesn’t really matter how many games, the fact is that one of the best managers at one of the most high profile clubs in the world felt comfortable and comfortable and confident enough in his ability to give him that level of responsibility.
Some of the very best Managers have been relatively poor footballers. Some of the very best footballers have made appalling managers. It’s a very different skill set.

Critchley was an excellent manager for us and he’s obviously got bags of coaching experience…

Dobbie is in the early stages of his coaching career. He was a decent player and he’s been a breath of fresh air and transformed the side since taking over. That should go in his favour, but it’s not the be all and end all…

If he does get the job, then hopefully he’ll have done so as a result of a rigorous process. It would be foolish to award such an important role at such an important time, based on a short run of positive results alone.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It doesn’t really matter how many games, the fact is that one of the best managers at one of the most high profile clubs in the world felt comfortable and comfortable and confident enough in his ability to give him that level of responsibility.
Some of the very best Managers have been relatively poor footballers. Some of the very best footballers have made appalling managers. It’s a very different skill set.

Critchley was an excellent manager for us and he’s obviously got bags of coaching experience…

Dobbie is in the early stages of his coaching career. He was a decent player and he’s been a breath of fresh air and transformed the side since taking over. That should go in his favour, but it’s not the be all and end all…

If he does get the job, then hopefully he’ll have done so as a result of a rigorous process. It would be foolish to award such an important role at such an important time, based on a short run of positive results alone.
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The thing is, a detailed process got us the services of Appleton and for a few reasons, by no means all his own fault, he didn't work out? A bit of common sense has to come into it too, which for me rules out Critchley and rules in Dobbie - at least up to the final decision. I would definitely give it straight to Dobbie and have thought this ever since he came into the temporary role.
 
JJpool said:
Dobbie now has completed his crash course in management.

He now is way more experienced than Critchley was on his arrival. Given he's actually played the game at a good level and not only that, he did it for us, so he knows exactly the pressures, fans, the club and can pass that onto the players.

His coaching methods have been praised, he's coming across well and getting a response from players.

The style is good, decent football and we even saw good pressing considering who we had available.

He has absolutely no baggage and has tons of positives the other way and lots of goodwill.
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Karl mode on:
And he’d be the cheapest option. 😁

What’s not to like?
 
Mark_GT said:
The thing is, a detailed process got us the services of Appleton and for a few reasons, by no means all his own fault, he didn't work out? A bit of common sense has to come into it too, which for me rules out Critchley and rules in Dobbie - at least up to the final decision. I would definitely give it straight to Dobbie and have thought this ever since he came into the temporary role.
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You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater though do you?

A proper process is the right way to go about the recruitment... Whether ut produces an occasional duffer or not... McCarthy was a snap appointment (and was far, far worse than Appleton)
 
Lala said:
More drawn out as in saying goodbye to the fans ?
Ye, I think I expected that at least.

And I think Dobbie has more of an affinity with the club to not do that.

Like it or not he left a sour taste in the mouths of some fans. Why can’t we just avoid any past managers that have left any kind of negative vibes. It can’t be that difficult.
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Well yeah I agree with that. We can’t bring him back simple because too many will be against it and we simply don’t work as a club when there is division.
 
He needs bums on seats, Dobbie will do that, the snake won’t the last few seasons has told us going back doesn’t work well.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater though do you?

A proper process is the right way to go about the recruitment... Whether ut produces an occasional duffer or not... McCarthy was a snap appointment (and was far, far worse than Appleton)
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I agree with the second part of that response. For the first bit, I think some decisions are just obvious enough to take right away when such positive momentum is there. Anyway, we find out soon enough 👍
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It doesn’t really matter how many games, the fact is that one of the best managers at one of the most high profile clubs in the world felt comfortable and comfortable and confident enough in his ability to give him that level of responsibility.
Some of the very best Managers have been relatively poor footballers. Some of the very best footballers have made appalling managers. It’s a very different skill set.

Critchley was an excellent manager for us and he’s obviously got bags of coaching experience…

Dobbie is in the early stages of his coaching career. He was a decent player and he’s been a breath of fresh air and transformed the side since taking over. That should go in his favour, but it’s not the be all and end all…

If he does get the job, then hopefully he’ll have done so as a result of a rigorous process. It would be foolish to award such an important role at such an important time, based on a short run of positive results alone.
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I'm not demeaning Critchley, he's someone who I really liked and I don't hold grudges because he left. No matter how poor his exit was. But it's clear he'd be divisive if he came back.

We have a great up and coming manager who's shown a lot already, with now more relatable and different experience for managing than Critchley had when he arrived. He's here he's settled, knows us inside out, not getting used to us time like a new manager has.

That's all I'm saying.
 
I'd have Critchley back purely because I liked the football we usually played under him. Don't care about the fact he left us in the way he did. Although I accept it would piss off half the fans - which probably means he shouldn't re-appoint him.😕
 
Lala said:
More drawn out as in saying goodbye to the fans ?
Ye, I think I expected that at least.

And I think Dobbie has more of an affinity with the club to not do that.

Like it or not he left a sour taste in the mouths of some fans. Why can’t we just avoid any past managers that have left any kind of negative vibes. It can’t be that difficult.
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I get it, the way he left hurt, it damaged the club and for that he does need to work even harder to regain that trust. Managers are in a tricky position however, look at the 12 months he's had since leaving us. He picked a good club in Villa, trippled his wages but didn't expect the wheels to fall off under Gerrard. Then he gets another chance at management with QPR who were in free fall and is given less than 4 months to turn things around and was dumped unceremoniously. Maybe those experiences have made him realise just how lucky he was at Blackpool? Maybe he's learnt from his mistakes? I'm pretty sure at some point all of us have done something we later regret, whether that be family, loved ones or in our professional lives. If we want the club to move forward we need to get rid of any bitterness, to err is human after all. 🧡
 
NewburyOne said:
I get it, the way he left hurt, it damaged the club and for that he does need to work even harder to regain that trust. Managers are in a tricky position however, look at the 12 months he's had since leaving us. He picked a good club in Villa, trippled his wages but didn't expect the wheels to fall off under Gerrard. Then he gets another chance at management with QPR who were in free fall and is given less than 4 months to turn things around and was dumped unceremoniously. Maybe those experiences have made him realise just how lucky he was at Blackpool? Maybe he's learnt from his mistakes? I'm pretty sure at some point all of us have done something we later regret, whether that be family, loved ones or in our professional lives. If we want the club to move forward we need to get rid of any bitterness, to err is human after all. 🧡
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Ye. I’m a sucker for forgiving and forgetting so I’m behind the appointment whatever now. It’s the only way and I just want the club to get back on the up again.
If Critchley can do that then bring it on 👌
 
Lala said:
Ye. I’m a sucker for forgiving and forgetting so I’m behind the appointment whatever now. It’s the only way and I just want the club to get back on the up again.
If Critchley can do that then bring it on 👌
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You'll have the Muckers after you.
 
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