Critchley haters

bill40 said:
Nobody hates Critchley but he is not above criticism and some of this seson's decions have been bizarre. It seems for Pompey he ditched the 3-5-2 and all our best performances have come when he's ditched it or at least tweaked it. He has a fantastic squad to work with but has often been tactically wanting and over cautious. He may turn it round but one thing is certain, our points total isn't what it should be.
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He didn't ditch 3-5-2. It's exactly what he played. Same as when people thought he ditched it against Wigan, he didn't and hasn't all season.
 
BFCfan33 said:
Hi Dave how you doing mate hope your keeping well, we are going back 40 odd years since we played together
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I’m trying to upload a piccy with you,me Thommo,John Butler etc.. taken just outside BFC home dressing room..but it’s saying too big…don’t know if you have this picture…
Managed it…Neil is front row 1st on the left as you look…John Butler centre front row with Thommo next to him…Bandagem who posts on here is next to Neil… I’m at the back middle..
 

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Towerpower99 said:
I’m trying to upload a piccy with you,me Thommo,John Butler etc.. taken just outside BFC home dressing room..but it’s saying too big…don’t know if you have this picture…
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I do actually Dave it was when we played for Blackpool Schoolboys in the English schools quarter final, i played a year above myself that year, it was a good side we had.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Me neither but I was 9 and 10 when he’d have been playing for us - I’d make a good detective/stalker/scammer in another life 😁
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I was actually around the club at the time, I did some match day photography and took squad photos, as I was doing Photography at Blackpool College at the Palatine Road Campus, but I preferred being in the crows with my friends enjoying the game so I only did a few early season.
 
BFCfan33 said:
i think the one on the front row on the left is the best looking lol
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Have you got this piccy…taken after we Beat Bolton 1-0 at Burnden park in the Lancs cup final.. Steve Walsh (Leicester) is back row tall lad on the left as you look.
 

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Going back to the o/p I don't know of any Critchley haters more Critchley frustraters who know he is a good manager but for much of the season has been making (not deliberately) the wrong choices.
If we miss out on promotion by 2 points the First half at Fleetwood will have to go down as the biggest missed opportunity of the season.
 
It just takes time to bed in the system. The way Critchley wants us to play requires a lot of discipline from the players and after enough repetition a lot of that becomes second nature….

By contrast, in the early stages, things can be a bit clunky, certain players might work out better than others etc..

Once you get your head around that, then I think it becomes easier to take the rough with the smooth.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not convinced he’s ditched it at all to be honest. It seems to me that we did nothing different on Saturday to any other time Dembele has played.

The lad is one of a midfield 5 and given the freedom to ‘express himself’ and make things happen.
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So if Dembele has a free frole that makes the formation 3-4-1-2 which is what I saw.
 
SeasideKurt said:
He didn't ditch 3-5-2. It's exactly what he played. Same as when people thought he ditched it against Wigan, he didn't and hasn't all season.
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As I replied to BFCx3 and in my original post the formation is tweaked and effectively 3-4-1-2 and sometimes 3-4-3. I think he's changed it but doesn't want to say so.
 
bill40 said:
As I replied to BFCx3 and in my original post the formation is tweaked and effectively 3-4-1-2 and sometimes 3-4-3. I think he's changed it but doesn't want to say so.
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Yeah agree on the 3-4-1-2 but the frame work is ultimately 3-5-2 really hence why him saying he's not changed it.
 
bill40 said:
So if Dembele has a free frole that makes the formation 3-4-1-2 which is what I saw.
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3412 to me suggests that Dembele would play more of a central role.. (I get confused with all of the terminology, but I think it’s what’s referred to as the traditional 10)…

I’m not sure that’s the case at all..He seems to be focused on the right.
 
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
3512 to me suggests that Dembele would play more of a central role.. (I get confused with all of the terminology, but I think it’s what’s referred to as the traditional 10)…

I’m not sure that’s the case at all..He seems to be focused on the right.
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Firstly BFCX3 we cant have 3512 because we would have to many players, (hope you don't mind me pointing that out) i see it that we set up 3-5-2 every game nothing has changed in my opinion. When we are attacking Dembele does kind of have a licence to roam and be creative and your right it is mainly on the right side, when we haven't got the ball he will slot back into the five for his defensive duties.
 
BFCfan33 said:
Firstly BFCX3 we cant have 3512 because we would have to many players, (hope you don't mind me pointing that out) i see it that we set up 3-5-2 every game nothing has changed in my opinion. When we are attacking Dembele does kind of have a licence to roam and be creative and your right it is mainly on the right side, when we haven't got the ball he will slot back into the five for his defensive duties.
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Sorry mate, that was a miss-type (obviously I mean 3412) it’s early !!😂

Maybe worth a try though if we can get away with it 😂
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Sorry mate, that was a miss-type (obviously I mean 3412) it’s early !!😂

Maybe worth a try though if we can get away with it 😂
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Our new professional footballer poster is exposing you big time .

You need to up your game lad . You are not preaching to just us armchair keyboard numpties any more. 😜
 
traffordtang said:
People had every right to feel aggrieved by the way he left us. He needs to win respect back. If it continues like the last two games then he’ll do that. But it takes time. At this moment every Blackpool supporter, regardless of their opinion of Critchley are celebrating 2 fantastic wins. No need for divisiveness.
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Making demands of Critch to win respect back is divisive in itself. I never actually lost respect for him tbh. I thought he messed up by saying nowt, but I didn't lose respect for him. One mistake. He's handled himself and those around him extremely well in his two spells with us. And worked extremely hard.
 
Ping Pong said:
I just think most of us on here, including me, were frustrated at his tinkering but mainly his defensive boring tactics.
It was obvious to most this wasnt working & we have an attacking squad, so ATTACK!
Hopefully hes now realised this now, albeit a bit late?
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His thinking is a hell of a lot more advanced than that, tbh.
 
gjr said:
When it comes to building a team around a player I'm pretty sure that Argentina did it with Maradona in a few world cups.
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They almost certainly did, but it’s a bit of an over-used phrase to be honest.

I think the question “what does that even mean” is relevant and I can see why @BFCfan33 is asking that kind of question. We trot out these cliches, but what are we really saying.

Because building a side around a player sounds to have pretty far reaching connotations as far as I view it. To the point where it would impact tactics, selections and even recruitment… It’s not something that feels particularly appropriate for a temporary loan player…if any player really.

I’m not even sure that Dembeie would fit into a more watered down version akin to a Charlie Adam really. He’s is a. really good attacking option and he can unlock the lock.
 
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gjr said:
When it comes to building a team around a player I'm pretty sure that Argentina did it with Maradona in a few world cups.
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Or did they, gjr?:)

It`s an interesting question as to what constitutes or qualifies the term "building a team around a player"?

Was Maradona not just the best player in 1986 in the same way Pele, Cryuff, Messi , Ronaldo were?

Of course managers will adapt teams sometimes to maximise the potential of truly great "match winners", but is that not just good tactics?

Not sure if a team is really built around one player, however good...
 
spudgun said:
Or did they, gjr?:)

It`s an interesting question as to what constitutes or qualifies the term "building a team around a player"?

Was Maradona not just the best player in 1986 in the same way Pele, Cryuff, Messi , Ronaldo were?

Of course managers will adapt teams sometimes to maximise the potential of truly great "match winners", but is that not just good tactics?

Not sure if a team is really built around one player, however good...
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I think a couple of those Argentina teams are as close as you will get.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
They almost certainly did, but it’s a bit of an over-used phrase to be honest.

I think the question “what does that even mean” is relevant and I can see why @BFCfan33 is asking that kind of question. We trot out these cliches, but what are we really saying.

Because building a side around a player sounds to have pretty far reaching connotations as far as I view it. To the point where it would impact tactics, selections and even recruitment… It’s not something that feels particularly appropriate for a temporary loan player…if any player really.

I’m not even sure that Dembeie would fit into a more watered down version akin to a Charlie Adam really. He’s is a. really good attacking option and he can unlock the lock.
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Agree that it's over used, Maradona was possibly the greatest ever player, most of his team mates were nowhere near his level. So in 86 and 90 it was all about him and they built a team round him.
Dembele and Blackpool are nowhere near to the Argentina/Maradona situation firstly we have multiple attacking options who are all good enough to get in any top 6 squad in the division and Dembele isn't light years better than the rest!
He is like a little locksmith that will unpick teams and let us in but you are right we can't build the entire team around him, sometimes you just need to kick the doors in and he won't be the man
Like you say ultimately he isn't our player either so we have to be able to win games in a variety of ways.
Right now we should enjoy what we are seeing with Dembele in the thick of it and see where it takes us.
 
spudgun said:
Or did they, gjr?:)

It`s an interesting question as to what constitutes or qualifies the term "building a team around a player"?

Was Maradona not just the best player in 1986 in the same way Pele, Cryuff, Messi , Ronaldo were?

Of course managers will adapt teams sometimes to maximise the potential of truly great "match winners", but is that not just good tactics?

Not sure if a team is really built around one player, however good...
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I personally think that is very well put and i agree ever team has a star player what ever level your at, i could say for instance BFC are building a team around Kenny/Norburn because they are our midfield holding players and everything goes through them, everyone's opinion is different, people tend to say Dembele for us because he is the creative player and i get that. The team is built around each individual player picked as they all have jobs and roles to do and complete
 
Bamber said:
He was asleep at the wheel tonight, as were the players.
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100% - this is where I genuinely believe he relies on the players once they've crossed that white line rather than dictate the game himself.
He reminds me of a Dad watching his son/daughter play in an Under 9's game.
 
Simonized said:
I didn't when the OP was posted but he seems to have set out to piss us off deliberately the last two games.
So I do now officially hate the obnoxious little tvvat.
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I'd agree there was something about the line up yesterday which was either one of a desperate man, one trying to prove a point or one who has run out of ideas. Either way, we've heard the same excuses all season and at some point he has to accept responsibility - I don't think I've ever heard him question himself.
 
Hate?
I dislike him as a person and as a football coach. Critchley, his assistants and the players, who it has to be said haven't performed that well even allowing for a system / tactics that they're obviously uncomfortable with, have badly let down the supporters this season.
 
Hate should be reserved for dictators and violent criminals. Never hated anyone involved with BFC and that includes ex owners.
 
Tangerine#9 said:
Don’t post on here regularly but had to tonight, first win against Portsmouth in the league in what 26 games? Wondering where the Critchley haters are at now? Time some of our fan base woke up and realised how lucky we are to have him, masterclass today, smell the coffee😮‍💨
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Post of the season :)
 
bill40 said:
As I replied to BFCx3 and in my original post the formation is tweaked and effectively 3-4-1-2 and sometimes 3-4-3. I think he's changed it but doesn't want to say so.
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It's worth noting then when the 3-4-1-2 was most successful, (big home wins against Reading, Stevenage, Shrewsbury, Carlisle and Lincoln + away wins at Pompy and Barnsley) we had Kenny Dougall and Owen Dale in the starting line-up... both of which left in the January window.
 
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