Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 3

Macseasider

Macseasider

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Saturday night.

What do we think? Personally I really like both fighters - for totally different reasons. Tyson is just Tyson, Wilder got in to boxing to look after his daughter and is chilled. The guy speaks so well.

Deontay Wilder seems way way more relaxed this time. To be honest they both do. I have a hunch Wilder may spark the big man out this time. I hope not - would love Tyson to defy everything and keep his undefeated linear record.

Thoughts?
 
Macseasider said:
Saturday night.

What do we think? Personally I really like both fighters - for totally different reasons. Tyson is just Tyson, Wilder got in to boxing to look after his daughter and is chilled. The guy speaks so well.

Deontay Wilder seems way way more relaxed this time. To be honest they both do. I have a hunch Wilder may spark the big man out this time. I hope not - would love Tyson to defy everything and keep his undefeated linear record.

Thoughts?
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Tyson will hammer him again.
If Fury is mentally and physically ready, he is the best fighter in the world currently
 
I don't thinks it's as clear cut as people think. Wilder can't possibly be as bad as last time, can he?
Fury on points for me.
 
Difficult to call this. Wilder got a new trainer after the last fight and seems more motivated and focused for it. He was a real chump after the last fight for making all sorts of lame excuses for losing and with ridiculous accusations against Fury and his own trainer. Fury will need to keep his chin away from Wilder's haymaker
 
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FY4MIKEH said:
No chance I could stay awake that long. I find it easier to get up early than stay up late.
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Last time I did was for Hatton fight... went to mates, drinking and eating ..but boy got to 2.30ish and it dragged.. plus well pissed by then. Remember when it finished it was impossible to get a cab which is like these days
 
I really enjoyed his interview yesterday when he called Wilder a dosser again and was totally chilled about the fight.

"This belt will be returning to the Bay Area and I dont mean San Francisco... it will be coming back with me to Morecambe Bay!!"
 
I think Fury will “probably” win but like many above, I think Wilder will be a “different proposition” this time.

Therefore, it is possible Wilder could “turn the tables”.

After AJ’s dismal showing the other week I think it’s the best two current heavy weights in the world who are fighting.

I’m a Fury fan, but a Wilder victory would mean another Re-match which, in the interest of fights worth watching may not be a bad thing.
 
SeasideKurt said:
He can be because he's crap. He doesn't beat half the UK heavyweights. His record is horrific.
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No way you can be WBC Champion and be crap, I'm not buying that. I'm not saying he was one of the great champions but he was still a champion and defended it many times. Doesn't matter if he isn't pleasing on the eye and gets outboxed, that's not his game. He is all about that one KO punch.
 
FY4MIKEH said:
No way you can be WBC Champion and be crap, I'm not buying that. I'm not saying he was one of the great champions but he was still a champion and defended it many times. Doesn't matter if he isn't pleasing on the eye and gets outboxed, that's not his game. He is all about that one KO punch.
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He has zero technical ability bar one punch. He hasn't fought a top 5 ranked fighter outside of Tyson Fury who wasn't top 5 in their first fight.

He's fought Ortiz twice and he's ancient and has never been an elite heavyweight. He beat Dominic B, who's also awful. And they are his best names.

He hasn't fought a decent mandatory yet has he? Dodged Whyte. Dodged AJ. Thought Fury was an easy fight as he was coming back from drugs/alcohol/mental health. Most overrated fighter in history.
 
If this turns into a boxing match then there is only one winner, Tyson Fury, if it turns into a slug fest then Wilder will try to land at least one big bomb per round and we've already seen he has the power to floor Tyson.

My heart says Fury, but I'm nervous in saying that

Wilder will be a very different fighter this time around coz if he loses his career is stumbling badly with the other names around (White, Usyk to name just two now AJ has buggered things up)
 
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I have enjoyed reading your comments on the fight. FWIW I think that either could beat AJ and hoping for an exciting fight with Fury coming out on top. I'm looking forward to it. 👍
 
Torycorner said:
I think Fury will “probably” win but like many above, I think Wilder will be a “different proposition” this time.

Therefore, it is possible Wilder could “turn the tables”.

After AJ’s dismal showing the other week I think it’s the best two current heavy weights in the world who are fighting.

I’m a Fury fan, but a Wilder victory would mean another Re-match which, in the interest of fights worth watching may not be a bad thing.
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You think that Wilder would want another rematch against Fury if he did win? No chance that he will take that risk of facing Fury again or anyone decent. His career has been built around protecting his belt by facing no hopers
 
Two big hitters who can also take a punch. Tyson's a natural fighter with no heavy muscle mass (unlike AJ & Big Frank) & if his head is right he will win inside the distance.
It's just a pity that heavyweight boxing's top fights have been spoilt by the lure of big purses & they choose to fight overseas & pay to view.
Good luck Tyson & may both boxers end the fight in good health.
 
Brett scores for fun said:
Two big hitters who can also take a punch. Tyson's a natural fighter with no heavy muscle mass (unlike AJ & Big Frank) & if his head is right he will win inside the distance.
It's just a pity that heavyweight boxing's top fights have been spoilt by the lure of big purses & they choose to fight overseas & pay to view.
Good luck Tyson & may both boxers end the fight in good health.
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Well said 👍
 
Sky Bet were offering evens about Fury last night , to a maximum stake of £10 instead of their current odds of 1/3....
 
Wilder only has a punchers chance of winning this fight. If Fury backs Wilder up like last time that negates the power of wilder as you cant punch hard going backwards.

If you look past his Fury fights he has not fought anyone of real quality:

Luis Ortis X2 (old as hell)
Stivern X2 (awful at best)
Breazeal (Battered by AJ)
Gerald Washington
Chris Arreola
Arthur Spzilka
Johan Duphauas
Eric Molina
Jason Garvan
Malik Scott
Audley Harrison.

Do any of the above names beat, Whyte, Parker, Joyce? I doubt it. i would expect Daniel Dubois or Derek Chisora to beat everyone on that list apart from Fury.
 
I think Fury will win either points or stoppage.

Wilder will have to connect with a huge right hand if he is to stand any chance.
 
Wilder has one slim chance which is to connect with a near perfect punch, other than that it’s a case of how and when Fury wins, points, knockout or ref/the corner stops it, whichever but Fury wins.
 
Would have to fancy Fury but I could never be sure that he is mentally right and Wilder will always have a chance of finishing it with one punch.

As plenty above suggest, Wilder went unbeaten for ages in a poor era and wouldn't be a Hall of Famer but am I right in thinking Fury has never defended a world title ?
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Would have to fancy Fury but I could never be sure that he is mentally right and Wilder will always have a chance of finishing it with one punch.

As plenty above suggest, Wilder went unbeaten for ages in a poor era and wouldn't be a Hall of Famer but am I right in thinking Fury has never defended a world title ?
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I though Fury had never lost a fight winning all bar one by a knock-out?
 
SeasideKurt said:
He isn't a big puncher really? He has one shot. Over right. That's it. Nothing else.
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It was a big enough punch for him to beat Ortiz when he was behind - I don't actually know the scores at the time to be honest - and big enough to very nearly beat Fury in the first fight.

I have no evidence of a long count but it has been suggested by some that Fury got too long to recover from the big knockdown in the first fight ?

I agree with much of what you say Kurt but I think you are perhaps being a bit over dismissive of Wilder's chances but I suppose it would be boring if we all agreed.
 
Norfolk White said:
I though Fury had never lost a fight winning all bar one by a knock-out?
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Norfolk

There was talk about Wilder not being a great and I would go with that but I just mentioned that Fury had never defended a title because I don't think he should be considered an all time great right now.

You are right that Fury is unbeaten and that he has won every fight bar one but plenty of his wins have needed the judges.

Certainly more than one:

Klitschko
Wilder
Wallin
Little Italian chap and more ?????????????????
 
All the heavyweights are beatable for me.

Joshua we've seen, but when on his game and being more positive can be a dangerous threat to anyone. But also when he's jabbing around he like a a fighter caught in between styles and unsure.

Wilder, we've seen how he can be beaten too, very little inside game and doesn't like pressure, even fury who doesn't have much power walked him down and beat him up. Can finish a fight if he does connect.

Fury, for all the talk of he being the best I see him as beatable too. Was basically ko'd by wilder, yes he had not long come back but a good chin isn't one that gets laid flat and somehow gets up. A good boxer, slippery and fast for his height, but also not much inside game and limited power.

Styles make fight and just because one lost to another doesn't mean the next fight goes that way.

Take AJ vs Fury for eg. If AJ is back to his old ways I think it'll be a great fight.

Fury can't throw slick combinations like Usyk could, he's fast for his height but not as fast as Usky or as slippery when stood right in front.

Fury usualy has to be going backwards using that height and jabbing to be elusive, if he trades with a fighter who's good on the inside I dont see it ending well.

But that fight got further away.

What we dont know is if Wilder was just having such an off night, of he's like that again hell lose, but if he's on it he could well ko fury.
 
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Wilder has piled on a load of muscle and is the heaviest he's been. Not sure about that tactic, recipe for running out of steam.
 
JJpool said:
All the heavyweights are beatable for me.

Joshua we've seen, but when on his game and being more positive can be a dangerous threat to anyone. But also when he's jabbing around he like a a fighter caught in between styles and unsure.

Wilder, we've seen how he can be beaten too, very little inside game and doesn't like pressure, even fury who doesn't have much power walked him down and beat him up. Can finish a fight if he does connect.

Fury, for all the talk of he being the best I see him as beatable too. Was basically ko'd by wilder, yes he had not long come back but a good chin isn't one that gets laid flat and somehow gets up. A good boxer, slippery and fast for his height, but also not much inside game and limited power.

Styles make fight and just because one lost to another doesn't mean the next fight goes that way.

Take AJ vs Fury for eg. If AJ is back to his old ways I think it'll be a great fight.

Fury can't throw slick combinations like Usyk could, he's fast for his height but not as fast as Usky or as slippery when stood right in front.

Fuey usualy has to be going backwards using that height and jabbing to be elusive, if he trades with a fighter who's good on the inside I dont see it ending well.

But that fight got further away.

What we dont know is if Wikder was just having such an off night, of he's like that again hell lose, but if he's on it he could well ko fury.
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Your opening statement is factually correct JJ: The top heavyweights all hit hard, and one well timed punch in the head, from someone of that weight, with that timing, will turn the lights off.
Ali / Frier / Norton / Tyson etc etc all lost fights.
I think & hope Tyson will win, but I don't like to hear him saying things like "I'm going to put him in hospital. He'll be severely injured. He'll be unrecognisable. I'll send him home butchered" etc. I know it's banter, but boxers should show respect for their opponent & their sport.
May both boxers box well & leave the ring in good health, with Tyson being victorious.
 
Both are coming in heavier than their earlier fights. Wilder seems more focused than the previous fight and I think Fury has had too many disruptions to his training (Covid and a seriously ill new child). I have a feeling Fury will lose his concentration and let down his guard at some point and Wilder will ko him.
 
Fury win, wider is a one dimensional boxer..in the first round wilder will just revert back to looking for the one punch Knock out after being unable to try anything new . it will just be a slug fest for 3 rounds. Wilder getting battered. Fight will be stopped by the ref, not his corner in the 6th
 
I doubt Wilder will win a single round but even still it's a dangerous fight. It only takes one punch to land, Povetkin is proof of this.
 
The Broadcasters are supposed to be blocking the pirate streams. Luckily I had a voucher for this on BT sports box office
 
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