Progressfan
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He went on loan to Northampton at the start of the season was injured and returned months ago but has never been mentioned since , he was a big money signing for us at the time anyone know any info on him ?
There's a massive difference between slating a player off for a bad performance and going on and on and on after the event about it then it getting so bad he was probably wondering if he was going to get blamed for it ** raining!!!Harsh things were said but if you perform like he did it was hardly surprising. That`s what happens in the competitive world of football when I last looked or is it now unacceptable to comment on really poor performances allied to an apparent shortage of effort?
Failed footballers reputations matter,.Should all critical AVFTTers now take the knee on his behalf.
Equally Simon Sadler`s bank balance matters to us all too in the future interests of our club.
Agreed, but the criticism should be reasonable and fair and never should it spill over in to hate filled rants.Maybe his mum or friends or a sports psychologist can sort him out and I hope for his sake they do but as football fans we judge footballers simply on their performances on the pitch be they good bad or indifferent.
I think you mean:In the style of Paulco, as a season ticket holder I demand the club take me through his medical history.
I take your point but would just say he may well never have read these comments and if a topic of any sort comes up on here it inevitably gets scrutinised in more detail by both those who agree or disagree.I think it`s pushing it to describe that as bullying.There's a massive difference between slating a player off for a bad performance and going on and on and on after the event about it then it getting so bad he was probably wondering if he was going to get blamed for it ** raining!!!
Yes as Blackpool fans we have the right to criticise and praise when the need arises, what we shouldn't do is step over the mark like in Nuttalls case and keep chipping away when not necessary.
In today's day and age its called bullying
No, not any more. Times change. Introduction of social media and globalization lead to massive risks to mental health which didn’t previously exist and exponential rates of young suicide and self-harm. Hence why we approach things a little differently now. We get and appreciate your generational difference, and simply ask that you try to appreciate ours.I take your point but would just say he may well never have read these comments and if a topic of any sort comes up on here it inevitably gets scrutinised in more detail by both those who agree or disagree.I think it`s pushing it to describe that as bullying.
It`s part of life to deal with things that aren`t always how we would like them to be,take it on the chin and move on, without constantly complaining about your lot in life which seems to becoming much more prevalent in recent times.Whenever you switch on the news there`s so much whinging and complaining.We used to believe in a stiff upper lip and getting on with life, not any more it seems.
If a 6 foot footballer gets so upset by things said on a message board that he can’t play for a year, I’m afraid he has far deeper problems.Is it not surprising seeing as the poor lad got some terrible things said about him on here.
There's a few on here if they dont like your post or it doesn't fit their agenda like that.In today's day and age its called bullying
I think Grayson mentioned something in the Gazette a while ago that kinda pointed in that direction also Keith Curle.Alf - where is the evidence that Nuttall has mental health issues?
The fact that you have cited someone's height as a reason to not be affected by mental health issues shows how little you understand about the matter.If a 6 foot footballer gets so upset by things said on a message board that he can’t play for a year, I’m afraid he has far deeper problems.
The fact that you have cited someone's height as a reason to not be affected by mental health issues shows how little you understand about the matter
Snowflake.The fact that you have cited someone's height as a reason to not be affected by mental health issues shows how little you understand about the matter.
Point proven.Snowflake.
Just the sort of inappropriate comparison I would expect from you.We`re talking here about the sort of difficulties that with determination and application can be overcome much to the benefit of those who manage to achieve that.yeah, and all those soft-arsed dementia and Alzheimer’s sufferers. Never had any of that nonsense back in the day, did we.
That is a terrible reply. I am very lucky that mentally I am very strong and have survived some difficult periods of life.Snowflake.
Damn, I see my hyperbole was wasted on youJust the sort of inappropriate comparison I would expect from you.We`re talking here about the sort of difficulties that with determination and application can be overcome much to the benefit of those who manage to achieve that.
I can`t believe you are stupid enough to think that such things as dementia and Alzheimer`s come remotely close to the kind of things we were referring to.
Or do I overestimate you?
When did I say he does?!Alf - where is the evidence that Nuttall has mental health issues?
Bit grumpy this morning, my friend ?The expression show some backbone used to be used ie the courage and determination to overcome whatever life throws at you but seems to be less fashionable these days.I can`t believe that`s healthy or progression.I suppose the opposite of that is spineless.
Interesting question of whether the recognition and "legitimising" of mental health issues has opened a door that people are willing to walk through. Was that door previously shut or have we just built a new door with a big welcome sign on it? Interestingly the male suicide rate has remained broadly constant since 2000 at around 17 per 1000 pa. Hasn't depression been around since time immemorial as an intrinsic part of the human condition, melancholia was written about in the 19th century after all?The expression show some backbone used to be used ie the courage and determination to overcome whatever life throws at you but seems to be less fashionable these days.I can`t believe that`s healthy or progression.I suppose the opposite of that is spineless.
Oh I have my grumpy moments but I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about the incessant whinging that seems to be so prevalent.I suppose it goes back to my upbringing with my stoical unselfish mother who never complained and just got on with life and helping us which I always greatly admired.Bit grumpy this morning, my friend ?
In counterpoint to your argument, we used to shoot people with PTSD and label others LMF
Maybe we want a kinder society?
Hope you are good, btw, hopefully all of us back to normal in next few weeks
50s as i said above I do appreciate the sentiment and I agree we have lost a valuable chunk of self determination, particularly millennials onward. But equally I can think of a lot of occasions where that ‘stuff upper lip’ has led people of the older generation to live miserable lives rather than seek help. It’s about a balance, and I would suggest that it’s massively counter productive to characterize any kind of complaint as whinging.Oh I have my grumpy moments but I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about the incessant whinging that seems to be so prevalent.I suppose it goes back to my upbringing with my stoical unselfish mother who never complained and just got on with life which I always greatly admired.
Nice to hear from you. Happy Easter!
I know the feeling mate, and regardless of whose fault it is that you’ve hit rock bottom, in hindsight for me at least I know that the simple act of somebody saying ‘it’s not your fault’ to me spontaneously could have just changed my whole day, week, month if it had ever happened. At the same time I’m not sure it would have been a strictly ‘true’ thing to be told. It’s difficult, but the stakes are so high it’s worth talking about regularly.Interesting question of whether the recognition and "legitimising" of mental health issues has opened a door that people are willing to walk through. Was that door previously shut or have we just built a new door with a big welcome sign on it? Interestingly the male suicide rate has remained broadly constant since 2000 at around 17 per 1000 pa. Hasn't depression been around since time immemorial as an intrinsic part of the human condition, melancholia was written about in the 19th century after all?
50s makes a really interesting point though in that perspective is fundamental in the ability of an individual, and even society in general, to deal with the bad times. Didn't hear about depression during the Blitz, did we? Was it around or were people too busy trying to stay alive and keeping their loves ones fed. Depression is recognised as a combination of biological, psychological, and social factors, so if the zeitgeist is to share one's problems that's what people will do.
Sorry to spout on in a footy forum on this but its a subject close to my heart. I went through periods in the past of being fed up and peed off about various things, as we all do - and thought depression was a failure of the weak minded. But then something took hold after a particular event and I spiralled to the point where I was sitting under my desk at work in the foetal position - thank f**k I was on my own in the office. And I own the business! Six months of sertraline got me out of that mental s**t show and all is Ok at the mo. But a factor in that spiral is the feeling of being weak, pathetic, a snowflake, letting down your wife, kids, colleagues, parents. It's no f**kin; joke I can tell you and I wouldn't wish it on any one.
I'm 6"2 and 13 1/2 stone if that's relevant.
#UTMP
I take your point and I certainly believe in helping others. I wouldn`t normally mention it and never have before on here but just to show that I do have some compassion and do care I did get an award and a scroll presented by our Lord Mayor in Sheffield after I completed 5 years of voluntary fund raising for our local Hospice. Apologies for mentioning it.50s as i said above I do appreciate the sentiment and I agree we have lost a valuable chunk of self determination, particularly millennials onward. But equally I can think of a lot of occasions where that ‘stuff upper lip’ has led people of the older generation to live miserable lives rather than seek help. It’s about a balance, and I would suggest that it’s massively counter productive to characterize any kind of complaint as whinging.
There are too many people these days looking for excuses, mental health, bullying etc. Just get on with it, life is nowhere’s near as tough as it used to be and we shrugged setbacks off and tried a new approach. People today are too eager to blame things on others, nothing is ever their fault. It’s time to face up to the fact that life is what you make it.That is a terrible reply. I am very lucky that mentally I am very strong and have survived some difficult periods of life.
However, it does not mean that I cannot have empathy with people who unfortunately do not have such mental fortitude. I think we should all be more understanding of others.
Idiot.There are too many people these days looking for excuses, mental health, bullying etc. Just get on with it, life is nowhere’s near as tough as it used to be and we shrugged setbacks off and tried a new approach. People today are too eager to blame things on others, nothing is ever their fault. It’s time to face up to the fact that life is what you make it.
Thanks, calling me names may affect my mental health.Idiot.
I appreciate the sentiment of your comment but I'd say that someone else's health issues (mental or otherwise) are non of our business.How do we know if Nuttall is suffering with mental health issues?
Is this fact, or just cos someone on AVFTT said so?
Isn't it about time someone asked the manger the question?
You clueless idiot.If a 6 foot footballer gets so upset by things said on a message board that he can’t play for a year, I’m afraid he has far deeper problems.
Help! Help! I’m being bullied get me a psychiatrist.You clueless idiot.
Mental health problems don't go away because your six foot tall footballer.
You ignorant fool.
Harsh things were said but if you perform like he did it was hardly surprising. That`s what happens in the competitive world of football when I last looked or is it now unacceptable to comment on really poor performances allied to an apparent shortage of effort?
Failed footballers reputations matter,.Should all critical AVFTTers now take the knee on his behalf?
Equally Simon Sadler`s bank balance matters to us all too in the future interests of our club.
Snowflake.
In 1997 my uncle killed himself. He never spoke about depression. The first we knew about it was a suicide attempt, followed fairly quickly afterwards by a succesful suicide attempt.There are too many people these days looking for excuses, mental health, bullying etc. Just get on with it, life is nowhere’s near as tough as it used to be and we shrugged setbacks off and tried a new approach. People today are too eager to blame things on others, nothing is ever their fault. It’s time to face up to the fact that life is what you make it.