Donald Trump and the Remainer lobby

Well, well, well, who'd have thought it - the orange faced loon and the Remainer lobby could be soulmates đŸ€—

Petulant brats who refuse to accept the outcome of a legally binding democratic vote ❎ (unless it goes their way of course 😉).
Not strictly true as the Referendum wasn't legally binding but advisory. But carry on bashing one out.
 
Not strictly true as the Referendum wasn't legally binding but advisory. But carry on bashing one out.
had the UK taken the position that “we asked you the question, don’t like your answer and we are ignoring the result/going to ask you again in a few years” in that very European superstate way they have on the continent, it would have been uprising territory and further entrenched Brexit views. Brexit ref 2 would have been catastrophic for those wanting to remain and probably end up in an absolute landslide for out under those circs and plenty of civil unrest to boot. Pointless.

If you have a referendum in the UK the result is treated as binding and that decision needed implementing. We will implement what you decide was what the 50 million households leaflet said.
 
had the UK taken the position that “we asked you the question, don’t like your answer and we are ignoring the result/going to ask you again in a few years” in that very European superstate way they have on the continent, it would have been uprising territory and further entrenched Brexit views. Brexit ref 2 would have been catastrophic for those wanting to remain and probably end up in an absolute landslide for out under those circs and plenty of civil unrest to boot. Pointless.

If you have a referendum in the UK the result is treated as binding and that decision needed implementing. We will implement what you decide was what the 50 million households leaflet said.
Still not legally binding.
 
Still not legally binding.
But it’s practically binding under the circumstances. No Prime Minister would attempt to reverse the outcome of a referendum in the UK. It’s always those who concern themselves greatly with the “lies of politicians” that seem to advocate non implementation of referendum results!

Anyhow the government were duly advised and it took an election to get the numbers to properly implement the decision sweeping away the Brexit blockers in the process.
 
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We’ll have to abide by it, but it’s caused no end of turmoil & I’d hate to guess how much it’s cost. I wonder if MPs had the chance again to vote on whether to have a referendum knowing what they do now. I rather think it wouldn’t have taken place at all. That said with the pandemic I believe it would be sensible to delay it again.
 
But it’s practically binding under the circumstances. No Prime Minister would attempt to reverse the outcome of a referendum in the UK. It’s always those who concern themselves greatly with the “lies of politicians” that seem to advocate non implementation of referendum results!

Anyhow the government were duly advised and it took an election to get the numbers to properly implement the decision sweeping away the Brexit blockers in the process.
The phrase legally binding was used. It wasn't. It was a consultative exercise.
 
I wonder if MPs had the chance again to vote on whether to have a referendum knowing what they do now. I rather think it wouldn’t have taken place at all.

Im sure Cameron would have changed his whole stance on Europe if it meant he stayed in office. No laughable renegotiations with Europe, just an embrace of full on integration and to hell with it. It wouldn’t have got to a vote in Parliament holding a referendum if he’d had his time again.

the only reason Cameron did it was he thought the British public would be too afraid to leave and would accept a veneer of changes and he could shut up Cash, Redwood, Francois and Baker once and for all.
 
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Im sure Cameron would have changed his whole stance on Europe if it meant he stayed in office. No laughable renegotiations with Europe, just an embrace of full on integration and to hell with it. It wouldn’t have got to a vote in Parliament holding a referendum if he’d had his time again.

the only reason Cameron did it was he thought the British public would be too afraid to leave and would accept a veneer or a changes and he could shut up Cash, Redwood, Francois and Baker once and for all.
True & in the hope of not losing votes to Ukip.
 
The phrase legally binding was used. It wasn't. It was a consultative exercise.
You still can't accept the result of a democratic referendum can you?
But you're one of the first on here to whinge and moan about the likes of the unelected Cummings running the country. I totally agree with you on that one btw. But you need to make up your mind. You can't have it both ways.
 
You still can't accept the result of a democratic referendum can you?
But you're one of the first on here to whinge and moan about the likes of the unelected Cummings running the country. I totally agree with you on that one btw. But you need to make up your mind. You can't have it both ways.
I dont have an issue with the result. I do have an issue with people retrospectively telling me it was binding. It was never that. It was a referendum. As I understand it, we elect representatives to Parliament to make decisions on our behalf. We don't have the power to tell them what to do on each and every vote.
 
I dont have an issue with the result. I do have an issue with people retrospectively telling me it was binding. It was never that. It was a referendum. As I understand it, we elect representatives to Parliament to make decisions on our behalf. We don't have the power to tell them what to do on each and every vote.
Of course you have an issue with the result. You have an issue accepting it. The rest of your post tells us that. Binding or not, is immaterial and shows that you don't accept it. You have frequently posted your views on how you think we will negatively be impacted by Brexit.
 
I dont have an issue with the result.

Of course you have an issue with the result, you and half a dozen others on this site. That's why you revel at hearing of any setback to the UK achieving a good deal. I can never understand why remainers would rather brexit was a disaster for the country than be proved wrong.
 
Part of living in a democracy is that you have the right to criticise democratic decisions. That’s why Farage was perfectly entitled to say that, if he’d lost, then he’d immediately start campaigning for a second referendum. And that’s why people on here are entitled to criticise, say, Jeremy Corbyn, despite the democratic choice of the voters in his constituency.

The bottom line is that if you thought Brexit was a crap idea in 2016 then you probably still think it’s a crap idea. And you’re perfectly entitled to say so. It’s called free speech.
 
Of course you have an issue with the result. You have an issue accepting it. The rest of your post tells us that. Binding or not, is immaterial and shows that you don't accept it. You have frequently posted your views on how you think we will negatively be impacted by Brexit.
As he’s perfectly entitled to do. The referendum was about leaving the EU. It wasn’t about taking away free speech.
 
Of course you have an issue with the result, you and half a dozen others on this site. That's why you revel at hearing of any setback to the UK achieving a good deal. I can never understand why remainers would rather brexit was a disaster for the country than be proved wrong.
They don’t WANT it to be a disaster. They’re just warning, as they have been consistently, that it almost certainly will be.
 
You still can't accept the result of a democratic referendum can you?
But you're one of the first on here to whinge and moan about the likes of the unelected Cummings running the country. I totally agree with you on that one btw. But you need to make up your mind. You can't have it both ways.
And you’re continually criticising democratically elected MPs who aren’t Tories. But seem to think people don’t have the right to criticise the outcome of the referendum.

Either we have free speech or we don’t. You can’t have it both ways.
 
And you’re continually criticising democratically elected MPs who aren’t Tories. But seem to think people don’t have the right to criticise the outcome of the referendum.

Either we have free speech or we don’t. You can’t have it both ways.
Of course I have the right to criticise elected MP's, so does anybody. You obviously haven't taken notice but I've criticised both sides. But I accept democracy. That's the difference.
 
Nonsense. At the first sign of a settlement or a new trade deal the usual suspects are on to it like a pack of hyenas, you more than most.
Not really.

But we do call out the BS for what it is.
For instance dressing up a continuity agreement as a great win, when in fact it simply maintains the status quo with the third party country in question.

There are 15 continuity agreements that remain to be signed.
 
They don’t WANT it to be a disaster. They’re just warning, as they have been consistently, that it almost certainly will be.
You could have fooled me. Any slightest little thing goes wrong, as Tangojoe rightly points out, you and others are on it like a pack of hyenas. You positively revel in it.
 
You could have fooled me. Any slightest little thing goes wrong, as Tangojoe rightly points out, you and others are on it like a pack of hyenas. You positively revel in it.
So we’ve now moved to discussing the issue to making personal attacks. Playing the man; not the ball.

Sure sign you’ve lost the argument.
 
Of course you have an issue with the result. You have an issue accepting it. The rest of your post tells us that. Binding or not, is immaterial and shows that you don't accept it. You have frequently posted your views on how you think we will negatively be impacted by Brexit.
Luckily I've you as a role model on how to accept a contrary view to my own.😁
 
As he’s perfectly entitled to do. The referendum was about leaving the EU. It wasn’t about taking away free speech.
Correct and in that idea of free speech I'm perfectly entitled to point out that people like yourself and Wiz seem not to accept the result. I've no doubt you'd vigorously campaign for a new referendum if it was to be mooted again. You lost get over it. You lost the argument back then, you've lost it now. Accept it move on and try to have a positive outlook about the future of our country outside of the EU..
 
Correct and in that idea of free speech I'm perfectly entitled to point out that people like yourself and Wiz seem not to accept the result. I've no doubt you'd vigorously campaign for a new referendum if it was to be mooted again. You lost get over it. You lost the argument back then, you've lost it now. Accept it move on and try to have a positive outlook about the future of our country outside of the EU..
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. And I’m entitled to mine.

And my opinion is that you’re wrong. As you so often are. On so many issues.
 
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. And I’m entitled to mine.

And my opinion is that you’re wrong. As you so often are. On so many issues.
 
Crikey Mex, you've got yourself into a right little mess haven't you. Looks like another majority decision against you. Better just accept you're in the wrong and move on 😉
Or alternatively I’ve got them leaping into the keepnet 🎣

Rest assured that I shall continue to highlight the Brexit lies and if that infuriates the Brexiter - well that’s just a bonus.

But you are right in one respect. Things to do; time to move on. Toodleloo old chap.
 
Well, well, well, who'd have thought it - the orange faced loon and the Remainer lobby could be soulmates đŸ€—

Petulant brats who refuse to accept the outcome of a legally binding democratic vote ❎ (unless it goes their way of course 😉).
Thanks O/P for confirming that not only did people not have a clue what they were voting for, they didn't even know what having a referendum meant.
 
Of course you have an issue with the result. You have an issue accepting it. The rest of your post tells us that. Binding or not, is immaterial and shows that you don't accept it. You have frequently posted your views on how you think we will negatively be impacted by Brexit.
Clearly you have an issue with people contradicting your interpretation of reality.
 
It's took a whole week for someone to come up with this. It really wasn't worth the wait.
The only connection is that both things have or are going to happen.
 
Yet more nonsense from the Oyston supporter. Another fine example of how pompous, self righteous remainers think all Brexit voters are stupid.
After all these years you still seem utterly obsessed by Oyston. He must keep you awake at night. You should really be called RustyMemory because you still seem to mix up my advocation for prudence in football with your fantasy of Oyston.
 
After all these years you still seem utterly obsessed by Oyston. He must keep you awake at night. You should really be called RustyMemory because you still seem to mix up my advocation for prudence in football with your fantasy of Oyston.
I was obsessed by Oyston? Now that is rich. I just don't forget how gullible fools like you were taken in by them, when the rest of the world could see what was happening. That's why any opinion you have is taken with a very large dose of salt.
 
I was obsessed by Oyston? Now that is rich. I just don't forget how gullible fools like you were taken in by them, when the rest of the world could see what was happening. That's why any opinion you have is taken with a very large dose of salt.
How pompous and self righteous you are to say that. You've built up an entire fantasy in your mind and to be honest I quite enjoy going along with it just to see how gullible you can be.
 
How pompous and self righteous you are to say that. You've built up an entire fantasy in your mind and to be honest I quite enjoy going along with it just to see how gullible you can be.
I well remember when so many of your fellow Pool supporters sacrificed so much to try and rid the club of the Oystons. How the Oystons literally ruined the lives of quite a few of those supporters, one or two I know personally. But all along you continued to support them and that disgusts me as much today as it did then.
Many will say forgive and forget what happened, let bygones be bygones. That's their choice and fine by me. But I'm not one of them.
 
I well remember when so many of your fellow Pool supporters sacrificed so much to try and rid the club of the Oystons. How the Oystons literally ruined the lives of quite a few of those supporters, one or two I know personally. But all along you continued to support them and that disgusts me as much today as it did then.
Many will say forgive and forget what happened, let bygones be bygones. That's their choice and fine by me. But I'm not one of them.
You're so convinced by your long standing fantasy it's probably best I make you my first ever ignore list poster. Whilst in the past it's been mildly amusing to see your imagination play out, you've become boring nowadays, always running out of things to say on a topic and just reverting to your parrot fashion cliché so no point in wasting any more time now this board has the technology to bypass such drivel.
 
I voted to remain and would again but we have to accept the result
Still think it was a from the gut,emotionally incontinent lash out at an establishment
Genuinely can't see what is the upside but what's done is done
 
You're so convinced by your long standing fantasy it's probably best I make you my first ever ignore list poster. Whilst in the past it's been mildly amusing to see your imagination play out, you've become boring nowadays, always running out of things to say on a topic and just reverting to your parrot fashion cliché so no point in wasting any more time now this board has the technology to bypass such drivel.
One thing that isn't a fantasy is your support for the Oystons. That's well documented. Feel free to hit the ignore button, a sure sign you've lost the debate.
 
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