Erasmus Plus Scheme What did the EU ever do for us ?

You do know that there is an equivalent amount of money being put into opportunities which aren't limited to the EU?

It's called the Turing Scheme; would be great to get the kids to play an equivalent in the MLS perhaps.

 
You do know that there is an equivalent amount of money being put into opportunities which aren't limited to the EU?

It's called the Turing Scheme; would be great to get the kids to play an equivalent in the MLS perhaps.

Don’t post things like this, it completely ruins the anti Brexit narrative.😉
 
You do know that there is an equivalent amount of money being put into opportunities which aren't limited to the EU?

It's called the Turing Scheme; would be great to get the kids to play an equivalent in the MLS perhaps.

One main difference being, if you enjoy your time in the host country, you won't be freely able to go back to live and work there in future.
 
Seen the Erasmus scheme from both sides through the years.
Hordes of Americans coming over but often just for one term. They flew cheap to European cities as often as possible.
Uk students eventually becoming isolated and lonely at second rate colleges in unfashionable cities as their year dragged on.
Erasmus had became party time for the many and needed to go back to the drawing board.
 
Seen the Erasmus scheme from both sides through the years.
Hordes of Americans coming over but often just for one term. They flew cheap to European cities as often as possible.
Uk students eventually becoming isolated and lonely at second rate colleges in unfashionable cities as their year dragged on.
Erasmus had became party time for the many and needed to go back to the drawing board.

What’s wrong with party time?
 
One main difference being, if you enjoy your time in the host country, you won't be freely able to go back to live and work there in future.
But that wasn't what the O/P was about; it's was an incorrect throw away comment which is factually wrong.

Meanwhile, if you're talented enough, you'll get a visa and do well wherever you live.
 
But that wasn't what the O/P was about; it's was an incorrect throw away comment which is factually wrong.

Meanwhile, if you're talented enough, you'll get a visa and do well wherever you live.
Which essentially makes migration a class level thing rather than for everyone. Ironically, this is now strangling the British economy as vegetables rot in Britsh farmfields unable to be picked due to visa requirements making much needed lower class foreign labour impossible to obtain.
 
You do know that there is an equivalent amount of money being put into opportunities which aren't limited to the EU?

It's called the Turing Scheme; would be great to get the kids to play an equivalent in the MLS perhaps.

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Yes I could have put in the other chat but is related to our club.
There was an opportunity to remain in the Erasmus scheme which was declined by the UK , partly because of the alleged extra costs, plus an anti EU/Europe sentiment. So all the opportunities to travel and have great personal experiences anywhere in Europe have been lost.
Thats a big shame I think. Im sure what other countries are going to participate with us on this. We await reports. Plus I think youll find theres no or limited provision in Turing to give the young people any funds to cover living costs while abroad, so probably now for the more well off. I believe it doesn't cover sporting exchanges. I think its a sad loss but pleased the Pool youth team were able to get a great experience out of it before it finally finishes
 
You do know that there is an equivalent amount of money being put into opportunities which aren't limited to the EU?

It's called the Turing Scheme; would be great to get the kids to play an equivalent in the MLS perhaps.

See my later post. Of course I know about it. Seems vastly inferior . We could have stayed in Erasmus but we declined. We will see what other countries engage with us on this.
 
Seen the Erasmus scheme from both sides through the years.
Hordes of Americans coming over but often just for one term. They flew cheap to European cities as often as possible.
Uk students eventually becoming isolated and lonely at second rate colleges in unfashionable cities as their year dragged on.
Erasmus had became party time for the many and needed to go back to the drawing board.
Well the UK have chucked it out now though I suspect many participants will have positive stories to tell.
 
See my later post. Of course I know about it. Seems vastly inferior . We could have stayed in Erasmus but we declined. We will see what other countries engage with us on this.

Shame you didn't mention it in the O/P really then I wouldn't have needed to respond for balance.

You are claiming that the Turing Scheme 'seems vastly inferior'. I could argue the UK has chosen to create a scheme which will supporting young people to experience the world beyond the EU - which seems vastly superior as it potentially opens up far more opportunities - especially for those who only speak English; but both opinions are a bit like judging a manager after two games.

Let's give it 7+2 years and see whether it's been successful which, as you know, is the equivalent of the EU fiscal settlements for structural funds.
 
Which essentially makes migration a class level thing rather than for everyone. Ironically, this is now strangling the British economy as vegetables rot in Britsh farmfields unable to be picked due to visa requirements making much needed lower class foreign labour impossible to obtain.
So talent is a class thing?
 
So talent is a class thing?
Not talent in itself but the opportunity for a person to express their talent is largely influenced by a person's class. I prefer all people to be granted equal freedoms and rights which we used to have within Europe.

Now though, it is largely only the upper, more educated classes that have chances to enjoy freedoms that were previous open to all.
 
Not talent in itself but the opportunity for a person to express their talent is largely influenced by a person's class. I prefer all people to be granted equal freedoms and rights which we used to have within Europe.

Now though, it is largely only the upper, more educated classes that have chances to enjoy freedoms that were previous open to all.
Quite right.

Keep these northern working class plebs in their place. We don't want them coming to our top Universities, storing coal in the bath, and tethering their whippets to the bicycle stands.
 
Quite right.

Keep these northern working class plebs in their place. We don't want them coming to our top Universities, storing coal in the bath, and tethering their whippets to the bicycle stands.
Where did the all the white privilege go, or are all these mixed race and foreign Students all rich ?

 
But that wasn't what the O/P was about; it's was an incorrect throw away comment which is factually wrong.

Meanwhile, if you're talented enough, you'll get a visa and do well wherever you live.
Sometimes, like me you have no or little talent and just want to live somewhere with a better climate and a different culture, that opportunity has now been massively diminished.
Of course if I had enough money like many of the instigators and backers of Brexit I could still live pretty much wherever I wanted.
In 10 years time when the good people of Hartlepool go to Spain on holiday and they can no longer get a roast dinner and watch the Premier league on TV in the Benidorm Red Lion because its no longer there! they will regret voting for Brexit!!
 
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Allowing talent to develop provides opportunities for the wealthy. Supporting talent provides opportunities for a far wider range of people.
And the Turing Scheme aims to do just that, but to a wider range of countries.

Ultimately, in terms of net financial contributions, we always put more money into the EU than we got back out in terms of structural funds; all we've done is reallocate it to a different, more globally facing scheme.

There's lots of interesting discussions to be had about the positives and negatives of leaving the EU but I'm genuinely perplexed to choose the Erasmus scheme as something to make it appear 'bad'

I used it to arrange an exchange to Baia Mare in Romania for a group of Hartlepool kids in 2017,
I could equally use Turing in the future to do something similar with potentially a lot less paperwork (notwithstanding it's a peculiarity of Britishness to follow the it to the letter!)
 
Turing yes a brilliant mind. What I don’t get is why the Heil Hitler at the beginning or ending on a lot of the German messages intercepted wasn’t cracked sooner ? Or did the filmmakers make up that scene down the pub when it finally dawned on them ?🧐
 
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Don’t knock the Turing scheme before you’ve tried it. Gone are the days of having to slog it out in some fancy European metropolis, now our youth will learn the true meaning of character building, working border control at Kigali International Airport for a summer :)
 
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