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AmericanTangerine

AmericanTangerine

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Dobbie is not given the job.

He is everyone's favorite right now and is one of my favorites too, but according to the Daily Mail article linking us to Narcis Pelach we are looking at Leam Richardson, Pete Wild, and Neil Critchley among others (Dobbie I assume as well).

The fact that there are so many good names linked makes me optimistic, but also makes me feel that Dobbie isn't nailed on.

If it's not Dobbie we shouldn't whine or cry and get behind the new man whoever it is. We can't start division at a time like this.

League 1 is a tough league, but is doable with the fans we have getting behind the team and that starts in the Summer whoever it is who is in charge.

UTMP. 🍊
 
I reckon Sadler might not be willing to take the risk considering how important the next appointment is. During his tenure we've now had 3 failed appointment's and 1 successful. Based on that, he'll more than likely go down the safer route of appointing a manager who is already established to some degree in league football, that's Wellens or Wild.

Every appointment is a risk, but an "established" manager is less of a risk - especially considering those two have both had very good seasons in League Two. I think Sadler will try go for one of them for that reason, and I can't say I'd be disappointed - but if he appoints Dobbie, I'm all for it as well.

I'm glad it seems we have some exciting options anyway. After Grayson, Critchley and Appleton, all the lists were underwhelming.
 
Slightly worrying is the fact that after Critchley left, SS said he would always be welcome back at Bloomfield Road. Whilst I was a fan of his tenure with us and was disappointed when he did one, I really wouldn’t want him to return, far too divisive to the fan base.
 
Terminallytangerine said:
I didn't think Dobbie's body language screamed that he was our new manager. Happy to be proved wrong.
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But also I don't think it's been spoken about, with him and presumably the club wanting to remain professional until after the season finished.

Also it was another chance to assess him.

I don't think he knows, but has stated in the post match that his stint reinforces where he wants to be in his career. Basically he wants it, he wouldn't say that if he knew he didn't have it surely.
 
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even if dob has the job, the club has to be seen to be doing 'the right thing' which includes assessing other candidates. SS is a corporate man after all and optics are everything. even if he has a hunch for dobbie.

it would be strange not to have a process (whether it's trusted or not), but sometimes you just have to trust your instincts. my instinct says dobbie. i wonder if simon's does too?
 
The thing is - if it isn't Dobbie now, the new manager is going to get absolutely zero support from our 'fans'. A couple of losses and a bad start to the season and the fans will turn on the manager again, whoever it is. It's vital we don't have this negative atmosphere from the fans like we had this season or we are fighting a losing battle.
 
BlackpoolJord said:
The thing is - if it isn't Dobbie now, the new manager is going to get absolutely zero support from our 'fans'. A couple of losses and a bad start to the season and the fans will turn on the manager again, whoever it is. It's vital we don't have this negative atmosphere from the fans like we had this season or we are fighting a losing battle.
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That’s rich coming from you
 
ParkerStraysOffside said:
Apparently the list is 8 or 9 candidates. Does that say great selection pool, or does it say we don’t know who (or what) we want or are looking for?
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8 or 9 might have been on an initial list, but I’d hope they quickly whittled that down to 2/3 and by now know who they want and are negotiating the contract.
 
I wonder about an incoming manager, with Dobbie as assistant manager. Ticks a lot of boxes, step up from head of development for him, keeps all the player knowledge, but brings in an experienced head coach.
 
Would love Dobbie to be given the chance. He’s been superb in the final six games. Won 3 lost 3 and 3 clean sheets. With the injuries and squad he had at his disposal he did a a fab job.
If the club choose to have someone else in I just hope it isnt critchley as this would almost certainly divide the fans which is the last thing the club needs right now.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
I wonder about an incoming manager, with Dobbie as assistant manager. Ticks a lot of boxes, step up from head of development for him, keeps all the player knowledge, but brings in an experienced head coach.
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You can't force an assistant on to a new manager they normally want to bring in their own team so Dobbie would have to step back in our set up.

I don't see the problem just give him the job FFS he ticks so many boxes-
100% fans behind him.
Knows the set up.
Had time with the squad and will know by now who he want's to keep/lose.
Give us an advantage when players come back pre-season.
Can give the owner list of targets/positions needed to fill.
Worked with the youth.
The list is endless of the positives.
 
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Lots of rumours. Daily Record in Scotland are reporting that Gary Bowyer might be returning, and are hinting that Dundee might already have a replacement lined up.
 
I’d be happy with Dobbie, but my big concern is that fans will be expecting more of the same, if Dobbie gets the job. It’s been a free hit, without too much pressure, and we’ve been able to throw caution to the wind in terms of attacking intent. Wigan we scraped through and both Birmingham and Norwich had relatively little to play for.

A new season will require a more balanced approach in terms of style. Whatever fans say now, a run of defeats / poor performances would result in criticism of Dobbie. Without a doubt, some fans clamouring for his appointment now would be calling for his sacking next season, if things don’t go well.

I’ve no doubt he’d have kept us up, if he’d been appointed earlier. However, there will be a lot of pressure next season to make a quick return to the Championship.
 
I can't see the rationale behind not appointing Dobbie tbh.
Wellens aside(who I would appoint) the other managers touted are pretty uninspiring especially Alexander and Richardson.
The Spanish coach that's apparently been interviewed from Huddersfield, well guess we aren't arsed about experience after all which then leads back to Dobbie again doesn't it.
I think SS needs to read the room here cos if Dobbie doesn't get it then any new manager will need to set off the season on fire or the fans will turn cos once again the board have ignored (Evatt, Edwards) them and appointed someone random.
 
BlackpoolJord said:
The thing is - if it isn't Dobbie now, the new manager is going to get absolutely zero support from our 'fans'. A couple of losses and a bad start to the season and the fans will turn on the manager again, whoever it is. It's vital we don't have this negative atmosphere from the fans like we had this season or we are fighting a losing battle.
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A little bit dramatic, as if any new manager is going to get "absolutely zero" support from our 'fans'. I suspect whoever is appointed will draw criticism from some, that's just the nature of the game.
 
Its a complete no-brainer appointing Dobbie which is why, perhaps, that so many fans are so invested in it happening.
 
One thing Dobbie has that no other manager has is the passion for the club - he gets it here , he is local , turned it around over the last 6 games - no doubt we would be a championship club had he of been given the opportunity. Absolute no brained
 
Love BFC🍊 said:
Would love Dobbie to be given the chance. He’s been superb in the final six games. Won 3 lost 3 and 3 clean sheets. With the injuries and squad he had at his disposal he did a a fab job.
If the club choose to have someone else in I just hope it isnt critchley as this would almost certainly divide the fans which is the last thing the club needs right now.
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Thing is that under Dobbie if we concede we lose the game!

That's no good.
 
Wizzerboy said:
@TangerinePeel
Every appointment is a risk, but an "established" manager is less of a risk.

Couldn't get more "established " than McCarthy.
That went well!!!
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Well I was on about Wellens and Wild specifically who are both young, up and coming managers who are more established (hence the quotes) than Dobbie who has managed 5 matches as interim. There's no reason Dobbie couldn't be successful, I've said it on here before - Grayson and Critchley have both done well at this very football club having no management experience.

Not sure you could describe McCarthy as established at this point, more antiquated perhaps 😉
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I’d be happy with Dobbie, but my big concern is that fans will be expecting more of the same, if Dobbie gets the job. It’s been a free hit, without too much pressure, and we’ve been able to throw caution to the wind in terms of attacking intent. Wigan we scraped through and both Birmingham and Norwich had relatively little to play for.

A new season will require a more balanced approach in terms of style. Whatever fans say now, a run of defeats / poor performances would result in criticism of Dobbie. Without a doubt, some fans clamouring for his appointment now would be calling for his sacking next season, if things don’t go well.

I’ve no doubt he’d have kept us up, if he’d been appointed earlier. However, there will be a lot of pressure next season to make a quick return to the Championship.
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Fans will do that whoever gets the job. So my concern is that whoever gets the job will come in for criticism if we have a run of defeats/ poor performances. And the CEO, the owneranx anyone else who sticks his head above the parapet.

You also say you've no doubt he would have kept us up in the Championship, which sounds like a good reason to appoint him. What wasn't balanced about the style? Seemed pretty balanced to me. Quite compact, three clean sheets in 6, hitting teams on the break, periods of attacking.
 
voyeur said:
Fans will do that whoever gets the job. So my concern is that whoever gets the job will come in for criticism if we have a run of defeats/ poor performances. And the CEO, the owneranx anyone else who sticks his head above the parapet.

You also say you've no doubt he would have kept us up in the Championship, which sounds like a good reason to appoint him. What wasn't balanced about the style? Seemed pretty balanced to me. Quite compact, three clean sheets in 6, hitting teams on the break, periods of attacking.
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We had nothing to lose, we had to go and win games, which does make coaching decisions much easier. I think Dobbie would acknowledge that the pressure of a full season is very different to a few free-hit games. He could focus purely on the preparation and games, without all the other managerial duties. It’d be a big step for him, and it’ll be interesting to see which way SS goes.

He’d be a good appointment, but as you rightly say, any manager will come in for criticism.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
We had nothing to lose, we had to go and win games, which does make coaching decisions much easier. I think Dobbie would acknowledge that the pressure of a full season is very different to a few free-hit games. He could focus purely on the preparation and games, without all the other managerial duties. It’d be a big step for him, and it’ll be interesting to see which way SS goes.

He’d be a good appointment, but as you rightly say, any manager will come in for criticism.
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Not sure. For 5 of his 6 games we could still avoid relegation. He took over a demoralised mess of a squad with loads of injuries. We didnt play a gung ho style either, it was a balanced style. He had games with no fit striker and no fit DMs. The central defence was makeshift. I think he has done remarkably well. And i like how straight forward and uncomplicated and upbeat he is. And the players really responded to him.
 
fcblackpool said:
Thing is that under Dobbie if we concede we lose the game!

That's no good.
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We had a half fit Jerry as the only option forced to play the key games, otherwise he'd have sat then out. It's not been easy. To get 3 wins from even less than some other managers had is good.
 
JJpool said:
We had a half fit Jerry as the only option forced to play the key games, otherwise he'd have sat then out. It's not been easy. To get 3 wins from even less than some other managers had is good.
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2 of those wins were against sides with nothing left to play for.
 
voyeur said:
Not sure. For 5 of his 6 games we could still avoid relegation. He took over a demoralised mess of a squad with loads of injuries. We didnt play a gung ho style either, it was a balanced style. He had games with no fit striker and no fit DMs. The central defence was makeshift. I think he has done remarkably well. And i like how straight forward and uncomplicated and upbeat he is. And the players really responded to him.
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Don’t disagree with any of that, but going down was never going to be his fault, which does free the mind. That said, it’d be a brave call not to appoint him.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
Don’t disagree with any of that, but going down was never going to be his fault, which does free the mind. That said, it’d be a brave call not to appoint him.
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Yeah, he was in a blame free situation, agreed. 👍

He obviously really wants the job though so that gives its own pressure.
 
TangerinePeel said:
I reckon Sadler might not be willing to take the risk considering how important the next appointment is. During his tenure we've now had 3 failed appointment's and 1 successful. Based on that, he'll more than likely go down the safer route of appointing a manager who is already established to some degree in league football, that's Wellens or Wild.

Every appointment is a risk, but an "established" manager is less of a risk - especially considering those two have both had very good seasons in League Two. I think Sadler will try go for one of them for that reason, and I can't say I'd be disappointed - but if he appoints Dobbie, I'm all for it as well.

I'm glad it seems we have some exciting options anyway. After Grayson, Critchley and Appleton, all the lists were underwhelming.
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I think you might be right and I hope those who have all their eggs in one basket are going to be ok if the said basket is dropped.
 
voyeur said:
Not sure. For 5 of his 6 games we could still avoid relegation. He took over a demoralised mess of a squad with loads of injuries. We didnt play a gung ho style either, it was a balanced style. He had games with no fit striker and no fit DMs. The central defence was makeshift. I think he has done remarkably well. And i like how straight forward and uncomplicated and upbeat he is. And the players really responded to him.
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Agreed, these past 6 games certainly count for something if you zoom in on the specifics of what he's done and had to work with.

He certainly has to be a finalist, but ultimately he's not nailed on like everyone thinks he should be and we as fans need to prepare expectations for if he doesn't get the job.

The way some people are talking about him is only setting themselves up for disappointment if it's not him.

There appears to be a strong list of candidates (way stronger than last time we were hiring a manager in League 1) and I will back whoever is given the job. 👍
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Dobbie is not given the job.

He is everyone's favorite right now and is one of my favorites too, but according to the Daily Mail article linking us to Narcis Pelach we are looking at Leam Richardson, Pete Wild, and Neil Critchley among others (Dobbie I assume as well).

The fact that there are so many good names linked makes me optimistic, but also makes me feel that Dobbie isn't nailed on.

If it's not Dobbie we shouldn't whine or cry and get behind the new man whoever it is. We can't start division at a time like this.

League 1 is a tough league, but is doable with the fans we have getting behind the team and that starts in the Summer whoever it is who is in charge.

UTMP. 🍊
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People need to suck it up and admit Critchley is the logical appointment
 
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