FAO SLO Policing tonight !

Night to forget all round, God knows what the police were doing on Blackpool Road when we were being held back by the police vans on Lowthorpe, but the nobbers seemed to have plenty of time to pick up and chuck whatever they wanted before they were dispersed? Half ten before we could move was ridiculous! Plenty of scrotes on both sides let’s not kid ourselves.

The Finney’s in a box chant was just f**kin embarrassing, a proper club legend in the Armfield mould, that had me squirming but standards are pretty low amongst our younger element and theirs. Chucking stuff at an unconscious player? F**kin deplorable! Smashing seats cos we’ve lost a game of football? Brain dead!

Most of the trouble makers are 7 stone p*ss wet through and without their fellow stone island croneys wouldn’t say boo to a goose, lock everyone who wants to fight in the ground from both sides at full time and let the dopey f**kers wipe each other out!
 
JJpool said:
So we know now we can and should keep away fans back for big games allowing us to use the whole of the NE section.

We should also limit PNE to 10% capacity as all we will get now is 2k.

So be it.
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If PNE get more than 10% next season I’m sure there will be uproar from BFC fans and quite rightly so
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Preston Fans representatives managed to gain direct access to the Police and hold them to account following the fixture at BR.

Knob End also need challenging about a tit for tat policy that has put fan safety at risk purely for spiteful reasons. Despite months of selling and promoting tickets with the added Tom Finney 100th Birthday celebration they still had 5000 empty seats. On that basis they could have given the whole stand over to Blackpool (or at the very least created a large sterile area) instead of creating a flashpoint.
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Giving the town end with 5000 tickets for us would have significantly reduced the problems encountered last night it’s an absolute no fuckin brainer, if we the fans can see it why can’t the Old Bill? This ridiculous tit for tat shite from the Nobbers in only giving us 2200 and in a segregated stand was a recipe for trouble, shame on the Nobbers and even greater shame on the Old Bill who will no doubt be patting each other on the back saying well done everyone but fuck the fans especially there safety!
 
TangerineBayern said:
Giving the town end with 5000 tickets for us would have significantly reduced the problems encountered last night it’s an absolute no fuckin brainer, if we the fans can see it why can’t the Old Bill? This ridiculous tit for tat shite from the Nobbers in only giving us 2200 and in a segregated stand was a recipe for trouble, shame on the Nobbers and even greater shame on the Old Bill who will no doubt be patting each other on the back saying well done everyone but fuck the fans especially there safety!
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Yeh, spot on. It you recall the police issued a statement immediately after the home game with them saying how everything went smoothly as planned. It was only after the complaints came in they realised that they'd made a complete balls up and said lessons would be learnt. Well it seems they weren't. A relatively small crowd compared to some of the big games and they've not a clue how to police it properly. That's from the top ie the match commander to some of those cops on the ground who seem to revel in there being a bit of trouble because it gives them a free licence to be thugs themselves.
 
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I think there needs to be many steps back from this and looking at it as objectively as possible.
This started with a pretty crap allocation for the Nobbers at BR and set the tone for the season,with tempers frayed and a cauldron of toxicity cooking for last night.

First of all both sets of fans could have met with the police and gone over the arrangements, including the clubs and safety officers which others do elsewhere. Forest and Derby do it, London and West Midlands the same and I believe someone from Blackpool chairs the West Yorkshire one.

This is a core initiative pushed by the Football Supporters Association and it works quite well in finding solutions, where otherwise the cops just flood the fixture and inflict draconian measures and treatment on largely innocent supporters.

If anyone from BST has any response on this I'm sure we'd all appreciate it, but it does seem their secretary and national contributors have been absent without leave on this one.
 
nameless said:
I think there needs to be many steps back from this and looking at it as objectively as possible.
This started with a pretty crap allocation for the Nobbers at BR and set the tone for the season,with tempers frayed and a cauldron of toxicity cooking for last night.

First of all both sets of fans could have met with the police and gone over the arrangements, including the clubs and safety officers which others do elsewhere. Forest and Derby do it, London and West Midlands the same and I believe someone from Blackpool chairs the West Yorkshire one.

This is a core initiative pushed by the Football Supporters Association and it works quite well in finding solutions, where otherwise the cops just flood the fixture and inflict draconian measures and treatment on largely innocent supporters.

If anyone from BST has any response on this I'm sure we'd all appreciate it, but it does seem their secretary and national contributors have been absent without leave on this one.
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SLO & fans group do have Pre & post match meetings with Police
 
There seems to have been a lot of de-briefing but not a lot of learning from mistakes, and even less deployment of common sense.

Firstly, there was absolutely no need for any PNE fans to be in the same stand as Blackpool fans - even if our allocation remained the same. So why was this allowed? This must be questioned at the de-brief, and must be pressed if the answer isn't satisfactory. Like it or not, PNE did themselves out of a significant amount of money last night, and therefore this decision can only have been due to spite. When fans safety is concerned it's outrageous this was allowed. It seems Lancs police are much more insistent on what we do at our stadium than what PNE do at theirs.

Secondly, you either can or you can't hold fans back. It can't just be done at some games and not others. As we've seen, there is no doubt now that it is allowed and can be planned in advance. This needs to be demanded at our home game next season, it's totally unacceptable for this not to happen now.

Thirdly, why is it that other police forces across the country can seemingly deploy crowd control techniques so much more successfully at much larger derby day crowds? I'd be asking this at the de-brief. It's like Lancs police have had a complete turnover of staff and the one's there now have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
If PNE get more than 10% next season I’m sure there will be uproar from BFC fans and quite rightly so
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We can easily sell the NE seats ourselves, we had 800 in there last time and that was the limit. They weren't on sale long. Imagine with a pne length sale window.

Also our previous purchase history was debatable whether this may cost us as some who couldn't go with no history. It apparently did in the rovers game.

Hopefully more will be registered as time goes on and there should be a simple system and checks to register locals with id etc. Plus the more big cup game or whatever we have helps in getting people registered.

I'd still like to know how comprehensive the system is and how far it goes back or was it wiped somewhat when the club was sold? Boycott years....

But we should fill the stand easily.
 
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XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
They Do The SLO told us via the club & on here that we'd be held back for 10-15 mins , Problem is that SUPT Crowe decided on the day to keep us back longer . Why this wasn't relayed to us via the ground PA is a question that needs asking .
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You've missed the point and just taking a single issue doesn't really mean much.
Check the BST site and its almost unused which could help getting information over and helping supporters in this context, and there has been no analysis or statement over the PNE match at BR.

There are many aspects and issues surrounding the Preston matches and at no point have BST taken an initiative on this, like for instance working to get full allocations for both sets of supporters.

Working with the police and club is critical for improving the supporters experience and making representation at every opportunity, but just passing on bits of stuff chucked their way by the cops isnt really conducive to getting things done.

Every problem in both matches has been avoidable and its unfair to lump that at BSTs door, but they campaigned for an SLO, made numerous references to affiliation to the FSA and ultimately achieved nothing in this context
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It’s been public knowledge since at least Thursday that away fans would be held back after the game. It was clearly pre-planned well in advance (we had an announcement on the coach on our way there to remind us).

It’s no problem as far as I’m concerned… What is a problem is the continued peddling of bullshit, that these things are only ‘decided based on intelligence on the day’.

Let’s just have a bit of basic honesty, instead of treating people like fools.

On the night, there were clearly flashpoints as Blackpool Fans exited the ground and the Police had to take further action to deal with the issue, which resulted in a longer delay than expected…. I can’t say that was unexpected as far as I’m concerned and I’m certainly not going to make a big song and dance out of it like some have.

The main issue really is why the Police hadn’t managed to adequately clear the home supporters and allowed them to be in a position to pelt us with missile.

And much more importantly why their fans weee given access to the same stand as us, when they had nearly 5000 empty seats.
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Preston allowing their fans to move seats just for this game in order to place them in the same stand is a decision that was a tacit incitement to disorder. It was the main reason I chose to avoid the match with my 9 year-old, and I'm very surprised this wasn't vetoed by Lancashire Police.

Could do with the SLO raising questions re: this decision and its impact upon the policing/stewarding operation.
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
They Do The SLO told us via the club & on here that we'd be held back for 10-15 mins , Problem is that SUPT Crowe decided on the day to keep us back longer . Why this wasn't relayed to us via the ground PA is a question that needs asking .
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Yiu mentioned the “Supporters Groups”, not the SLO. That said, I don’t recall reading anything from the SLO about a 10-15 minute delay either. The information I saw on here came from a fan.

Whatever may or may not need asking, my question remains…..

If our supporters groups are in regular pre & post match communication with the Police, why are those groups not feeding information back and communicating with the Supporters ?
 
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nameless said:
I think there needs to be many steps back from this and looking at it as objectively as possible.
This started with a pretty crap allocation for the Nobbers at BR and set the tone for the season,with tempers frayed and a cauldron of toxicity cooking for last night.

First of all both sets of fans could have met with the police and gone over the arrangements, including the clubs and safety officers which others do elsewhere. Forest and Derby do it, London and West Midlands the same and I believe someone from Blackpool chairs the West Yorkshire one.

This is a core initiative pushed by the Football Supporters Association and it works quite well in finding solutions, where otherwise the cops just flood the fixture and inflict draconian measures and treatment on largely innocent supporters.

If anyone from BST has any response on this I'm sure we'd all appreciate it, but it does seem their secretary and national contributors have been absent without leave on this one.
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For the one hundredth million time Preston where given 2200 exactly the same as every team in our Premier league season and in the Championship after.

So cut this crap allocation out in our small ground it's utter bullshit and the ONLY time the away followings have been bigger than 2.2k when we haven't sold the home ends out or looked like doing so I.E Forrest last Saturday.
 
SLO_BFC said:
Xbeds I've messaged you. I was at a Lancs Police briefing on this game a few weeks ago and Supt. Crowe reiterated what we'd heard before, that holdbacks are not desirable and never planned in advance but can get imposed dynamically if there is considered to be a serious threat to public safety on the day. I don't know what intel was used to trigger that decision last night. I'm sure there will be a debrief.
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For something not planned in advance, three layers of police behind parked vans looked anything but spontaneous, as was tannoy announcements during the game. As a matter of interest, why was prevention of women going to the toilet 10 minutes before the end of the game seen as crucial to the security of the stadium?
 
GeminiPool said:
Preston allowing their fans to move seats just for this game in order to place them in the same stand is a decision that was a tacit incitement to disorder. It was the main reason I chose to avoid the match with my 9 year-old, and I'm very surprised this wasn't vetoed by Lancashire Police.

Could do with the SLO raising questions re: this decision and its impact upon the policing/stewarding operation.
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Excellent point and something the SLO needs to raise at the debrief and with the SLO at PNE. An absolute awful decision made by PNE done solely for spite and knowing it was a certainty that there would be incidents with no thought or consideration for fans.
 
nameless said:
I think there needs to be many steps back from this and looking at it as objectively as possible.
This started with a pretty crap allocation for the Nobbers at BR and set the tone for the season,with tempers frayed and a cauldron of toxicity cooking for last night.

First of all both sets of fans could have met with the police and gone over the arrangements, including the clubs and safety officers which others do elsewhere. Forest and Derby do it, London and West Midlands the same and I believe someone from Blackpool chairs the West Yorkshire one.

This is a core initiative pushed by the Football Supporters Association and it works quite well in finding solutions, where otherwise the cops just flood the fixture and inflict draconian measures and treatment on largely innocent supporters.

If anyone from BST has any response on this I'm sure we'd all appreciate it, but it does seem their secretary and national contributors have been absent without leave on this one.
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Actually Nameless, as this is clearly aimed at me among others, I AM on leave. A holiday booked before the fixture was moved. I'm still in touch with the committee about this and other matters though.
BST sent a rep to the pre match briefing along with other fan reps, including the Muckers.
I have been on numerous calls/Zooms with police and FSA over these policing issues over the season. I would very much like to know why holding Blackpool fans back was pre planned as we have been told over and over again that this is a breach of human rights and can only be done as an emergency measure if there is a credible threat to public safety. It feels as if football policing regulations are being made up as we go along.
BST are already gathering information from Tuesday night and as the SLO has repeatedly said, there will have to be a debrief. If one isn't already planned then we will certainly demand one.
Anyone with information or complaints can email the Trust secretary. Please stop this negative nonsense about BST and if you have any real issues with me, or Tony or Robbie or anyone else, have the courage to make contact properly (IE not just sniping on AVFTT) and set out your issues. I'm more than happy to meet you in person to discuss.

One last thing, if any supporters ever need assistance regarding club stewarding incidents or policing incidents, Amanda Jacks at the FSA is brilliant. She is very knowledgeable, full of common sense and has helped countless football fans. Contact BST to be put in touch or go directly to the FSA.
 
CSSeasider said:
Actually Nameless, as this is clearly aimed at me among others, I AM on leave. A holiday booked before the fixture was moved. I'm still in touch with the committee about this and other matters though.
BST sent a rep to the pre match briefing along with other fan reps, including the Muckers.
I have been on numerous calls/Zooms with police and FSA over these policing issues over the season. I would very much like to know why holding Blackpool fans back was pre planned as we have been told over and over again that this is a breach of human rights and can only be done as an emergency measure if there is a credible threat to public safety. It feels as if football policing regulations are being made up as we go along.
BST are already gathering information from Tuesday night and as the SLO has repeatedly said, there will have to be a debrief. If one isn't already planned then we will certainly demand one.
Anyone with information or complaints can email the Trust secretary. Please stop this negative nonsense about BST and if you have any real issues with me, or Tony or Robbie or anyone else, have the courage to make contact properly (IE not just sniping on AVFTT) and set out your issues. I'm more than happy to meet you in person to discuss.

One last thing, if any supporters ever need assistance regarding club stewarding incidents or policing incidents, Amanda Jacks at the FSA is brilliant. She is very knowledgeable, full of common sense and has helped countless football fans. Contact BST to be put in touch or go directly to the FSA.
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Presumably BST must be gathering their intelligence through Secret Agents as I haven't seen any attempt whatsoever from them to communicate or engage with actual everyday supporters over the policing at this game or any other.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
If PNE get more than 10% next season I’m sure there will be uproar from BFC fans and quite rightly so
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I think the Nobber board shot themselves in the foot by listening to the whinging fans. The gate was 18700, 4300 shy of a sell out despite being on sale for months and being the Plumbers birthday. Due to the size of our ground they will get the same as this season.
 
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I think the Nobber board shot themselves in the foot by listening to the whinging fans. The gate was 18700, 4300 shy of a sell out despite being on sale for months and being the Plumbers birthday. Due to the size of our ground they will get the same as this season.
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4,700😉
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Presumably BST must be gathering their intelligence through Secret Agents as I haven't seen any attempt whatsoever from them to communicate or engage with actual everyday supporters over the policing at this game or any other.
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To be fair we are less than 36 hrs on from the game

The biggest police operation in Lancashire for over 10 years apparently

A lot of money to spend and then completely cock it up
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
To be fair we are less than 36 hrs on from the game

The biggest police operation in Lancashire for over 10 years apparently

A lot of money to spend and then completely cock it up
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Appreciate that Tim, but we could say exactly the same about the Home Fixture, which was several months ago or the Brum Away fixture.... There seems to be no communication to even let fans know that BST and/or other Fans groups are even meeting with the Police on our behalf.

It feels to me like as Blackpool Supporters we rarely seem to have anyone who stands up for us in these situations... I can go right the way back to the absolute fiasco at the Wembley Final with West Ham, when BSA wouldn't stand up to the plate and challenge either the Club or authorities over the ticketing mess.

Contrast that with Preston Supporters Groups who were demanding answers from our Club, the Police and their own Club, following the treatment of their Supporters at our place.

Hopefully this fixture will become a regular thing over the next decade and beyond, so it's vital that we get it right and make sure as many fans from both Clubs can enjoy the fixture with minimal expected disruption and in safety and that the Police and both Clubs are held accountable.
 
CSSeasider said:
I have been on numerous calls/Zooms with police and FSA over these policing issues over the season. I would very much like to know why holding Blackpool fans back was pre planned as we have been told over and over again that this is a breach of human rights and can only be done as an emergency measure if there is a credible threat to public safety. It feels as if football policing regulations are being made up as we go along.
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Make your mind up because Blackpool fans on here are saying they were told there would be a 'short' delay,which might have been been extended because of subsequent home fans behaviour. If you/BST/FSA feel there is a general issue with the police (which I think it is) then its simply a case of those that can getting a shift on and sorting the issue out. That includes you who seems to think priorities lie with the national organisation and not BST.
CSSeasider said:
BST are already gathering information from Tuesday night and as the SLO has repeatedly said, there will have to be a debrief. If one isn't already planned then we will certainly demand one.
Anyone with information or complaints can email the Trust secretary. Please stop this negative nonsense about BST and if you have any real issues with me, or Tony or Robbie or anyone else, have the courage to make contact properly (IE not just sniping on AVFTT) and set out your issues. I'm more than happy to meet you in person to discuss.
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People would like to email the BST secretary but given his reported links with the moderating on here that would give him access to private email addresses. Its certainly a non starter for me and its another example of manipulation from afar where BST really needs a hands on individual working within the community.
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One last thing, if any supporters ever need assistance regarding club stewarding incidents or policing incidents, Amanda Jacks at the FSA is brilliant. She is very knowledgeable, full of common sense and has helped countless football fans. Contact BST to be put in touch or go directly to the FSA.
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Amanda Jacks-as lovely as she is- couldnt or wouldnt help a lot of fans when the O's came knocking on the FSA door, in fact they were pretty cool on getting involved (credit to BST btw for their work)
What is the point of having a local Trust supposedly working for all Blackpool fans that just backheels the difficult stuff to an external organisation thats London centric and of subsequent little use?
The entire situation needed sorting from the PKE home game and liaison made with all supporters and clubs, and also the Sports Ground safety people who work through Blackpool Council. The latter hold the safety certs for BR and have the final say but having an purpose set up advisory group has been long overdue, and its also FSA policy to adopt these and work proactively rather than try and respond to any issues that arise.

It was my representation to the SAGA and Blackpool Council that brought about the closing and restrictions when fans started falling through the East Stand floor, and also when Leicester and Bristol City were charged corporate rates for seats and given ordinary facilities that prompted ejections. Its easy to set this up just like its easy to set up your expenses paid network meetings at the FSA, but this requires some sort of commitment to Blackpool football club and its supporters.

Hope the holiday went well although it hadnt had permission from the gathered ensemble on AVFTT (smiley)
 
poolseasider said:
For the one hundredth million time Preston where given 2200 exactly the same as every team in our Premier league season and in the Championship after.

So cut this crap allocation out in our small ground it's utter bullshit and the ONLY time the away followings have been bigger than 2.2k when we haven't sold the home ends out or looked like doing so I.E Forrest last Saturday.
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Any club would want to maximise its home support and the Seasiders did this with the Forest play off in the promotion season, but it just depends on whether it impacts on Blackpool away support.
Giving PKE 3k would have smoothed the path for getting the full end at DD and made for a better experience for both sets of supporters, and prevented the acrimony that started to build that day.
The position now is that will be unlikely to change next season and any other time,and it will fester and become a hindrance more than anything else.

Taking the parochial and short sighted approach doesnt get anywhere fast, and as we've seen starts to turn to into a pit of all things bad about football;the responses from both sets of fans over TF and Grimmy being stretchered off are a sad indictment of that
 
nameless said:
Any club would want to maximise its home support and the Seasiders did this with the Forest play off in the promotion season, but it just depends on whether it impacts on Blackpool away support.
Giving PKE 3k would have smoothed the path for getting the full end at DD and made for a better experience for both sets of supporters, and prevented the acrimony that started to build that day.
The position now is that will be unlikely to change next season and any other time,and it will fester and become a hindrance more than anything else.

Taking the parochial and short sighted approach doesnt get anywhere fast, and as we've seen starts to turn to into a pit of all things bad about football;the responses from both sets of fans over TF and Grimmy being stretchered off are a sad indictment of that
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Unfortunately at Blackpool, we are limited by the capacity of the ground and the current layout.

Whilst giving Preston 3000 tickets might have ensured they didn’t adopt the peevish (Tit for tat) ticket policy for the return fixture, it would have also meant denying home supporters access to the game.

With only around 11,000 seats available to Blackpool Fans in the main three stands, I don’t think it at all unreasonable to prioritise the home supporters….. Let’s not forget that Knob End were able to accommodate some 16,500 Home Supporters on Tuesday night ….

Of course it would be great if we had the stadium facilities at BR and at some point hopefully we will, but we shouldn’t be getting penalised by other clubs (who can accommodate fans when needed) just because our ground is currently inadequate.
 
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nameless said:
Any club would want to maximise its home support and the Seasiders did this with the Forest play off in the promotion season, but it just depends on whether it impacts on Blackpool away support.
Giving PKE 3k would have smoothed the path for getting the full end at DD and made for a better experience for both sets of supporters, and prevented the acrimony that started to build that day.
The position now is that will be unlikely to change next season and any other time,and it will fester and become a hindrance more than anything else.

Taking the parochial and short sighted approach doesnt get anywhere fast, and as we've seen starts to turn to into a pit of all things bad about football;the responses from both sets of fans over TF and Grimmy being stretchered off are a sad indictment of that
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You'd be lucky if the away fans have used both sides of a league game in the East ten times since it has been built in 2010 four of which have been this season.

The temporary stand was built for home and away fans and was used that way until the boycott kicked in now half remains closed most of the time.

So the club made a choice rightly so to sell to home fans and give PNE what every other teams have had(bar a few).
 
poolseasider said:
So the club made a choice rightly so to sell to home fans and give PNE what every other teams have had(bar a few).
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As a stand alone issue I'd agree with you and equally I'd try and fill the ground for every match, but this about getting as many Blackpool fans into the away fixture too.

Preston have adopted a more open approach to visiting supporters and allowed the entire stand to be allocated, which brought in more income over a sustained period and also helped local businesses too.

Its a simple matter of doing generally what's best for both sets of supporters, but until BR can get its own attendances up I'd opt for a more open approach.
 
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As a stand alone issue I'd agree with you and equally I'd try and fill the ground for every match, but this about getting as many Blackpool fans into the away fixture too.

Preston have adopted a more open approach to visiting supporters and allowed the entire stand to be allocated, which brought in more income over a sustained period and also helped local businesses too.

Its a simple matter of doing generally what's best for both sets of supporters, but until BR can get its own attendances up I'd opt for a more open approach.
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To be fair the reaction of Preston in going right we'll play ' tit for tat ' wasn't known when the decision was made
 
nameless said:
Any club would want to maximise its home support and the Seasiders did this with the Forest play off in the promotion season, but it just depends on whether it impacts on Blackpool away support.
Giving PKE 3k would have smoothed the path for getting the full end at DD and made for a better experience for both sets of supporters, and prevented the acrimony that started to build that day.
The position now is that will be unlikely to change next season and any other time,and it will fester and become a hindrance more than anything else.

Taking the parochial and short sighted approach doesnt get anywhere fast, and as we've seen starts to turn to into a pit of all things bad about football;the responses from both sets of fans over TF and Grimmy being stretchered off are a sad indictment of that
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Someone talking sense 👏
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
4,700😉
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Have you forgot Tuesday night live sky tv I no lots of S/T holders who watched on sky .we had a complete sell out for Liverpool in oct 21,000 with very little segregation. Against you well over 2,000 for segregation you do the maths.
18700 gate .
Considering it was live on sky brilliant support & we also gave refund to fans when it was announced it was on sky .

I believe you were down a agains NF live on the sat
 
nameless said:
As a stand alone issue I'd agree with you and equally I'd try and fill the ground for every match, but this about getting as many Blackpool fans into the away fixture too.

Preston have adopted a more open approach to visiting supporters and allowed the entire stand to be allocated, which brought in more income over a sustained period and also helped local businesses too.

Its a simple matter of doing generally what's best for both sets of supporters, but until BR can get its own attendances up I'd opt for a more open approach.
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What an utter crock of shit they've a 23k stadium and we haven't how many do Bournemouth,Luton and Peterborough sell in away tickets?
 
As said many times, all well and good but the police didn't want nobbers any closer to the north stand, given the trouble and north stand throwing stuff at Barnsley fans in that very place of the NE. So all a non starter, plus we sold out and then could use the other side of the ne stand, only 800 allowed.

Remember, no ticket exchange or swaps allowed to stop the north lads getting closer. It was only fans who hadn't already bought or had a ST.
 
Livingthedream47 said:
Have you forgot Tuesday night live sky tv I no lots of S/T holders who watched on sky .we had a complete sell out for Liverpool in oct 21,000 with very little segregation. Against you well over 2,000 for segregation you do the maths.
18700 gate .
Considering it was live on sky brilliant support & we also gave refund to fans when it was announced it was on sky .

I believe you were down a agains NF live on the sat
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13,986 with 3233 forest.

So 10,753 home fans. Live on sky, tickets 28 quid or 30 on the day.

Biggest attendance of the season due to how silly the segregation was against you.

Your ST holder not attending should have been counted in the gate, usually pretty standard.
 
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Livingthedream47 said:
Have you forgot Tuesday night live sky tv I no lots of S/T holders who watched on sky .we had a complete sell out for Liverpool in oct 21,000 with very little segregation. Against you well over 2,000 for segregation you do the maths.
18700 gate .
Considering it was live on sky brilliant support & we also gave refund to fans when it was announced it was on sky .

I believe you were down a agains NF live on the sat
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It’s not what “I believe” that matters… The facts speak for themselves, however yiu try and dress it up.

Every Club has local Liverpool and United fans, so no surprises they come out to see their hero in a cup game.

There would have been no need for significant segregation had your club, not chosen to put fans of both clubs at risk by putting them in the same stand, when you had plenty of space not to do so.

It is that decision and the stupidity of the Preston Chief Exec by the sounds of it, which has ultimately resulted in fans (including children) suffering injury inside the ground and was the source of a flashpoint upon exit.

The situation at Bloomfield Road is forced upon us at present, due to the lower capacity, in your case, you have purposely chosen to place fans at risk, when an alternative was clearly available.
 
poolseasider said:
What an utter crock of shit they've a 23k stadium and we haven't how many do Bournemouth,Luton and Peterborough sell in away tickets?
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Bournemouth give around 3k and Peterborough set aside 2 stands on occasions for away fans.
Like I've said its about reciprocal arrangements and not just the BR game, against local rivals where interest will be high.
 
nameless said:
Bournemouth give around 3k and Peterborough set aside 2 stands on occasions for away fans.
Like I've said its about reciprocal arrangements and not just the BR game, against local rivals where interest will be high.
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2k at Bournemouth.😉
 
nameless said:
Any club would want to maximise its home support and the Seasiders did this with the Forest play off in the promotion season, but it just depends on whether it impacts on Blackpool away support.
Giving PKE 3k would have smoothed the path for getting the full end at DD and made for a better experience for both sets of supporters, and prevented the acrimony that started to build that day.
The position now is that will be unlikely to change next season and any other time,and it will fester and become a hindrance more than anything else.

Taking the parochial and short sighted approach doesnt get anywhere fast, and as we've seen starts to turn to into a pit of all things bad about football;the responses from both sets of fans over TF and Grimmy being stretchered off are a sad indictment of that
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That is absolute bollocks
 
Livingthedream47 said:
Have you forgot Tuesday night live sky tv I no lots of S/T holders who watched on sky .we had a complete sell out for Liverpool in oct 21,000 with very little segregation. Against you well over 2,000 for segregation you do the maths.
18700 gate .
Considering it was live on sky brilliant support & we also gave refund to fans when it was announced it was on sky .

I believe you were down a agains NF live on the sat
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You dont believe they come to watch Preston do you ,it was like us in the PL a lot of people wanted to watch the galaxy of stars .
 
nameless said:
If you add wheelchair users, helpers, a small allowance for corporate,directors and away supporters stewards it comes to around 3k 😁

Anyway they usually have a huge take up of Poole fans so its not really fair to compare them 😉
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I see what you did there Plumber 😂
 
I hope next season we play them away first and they give us the full stand allocation then when we play them at BFC they get 10%. How funny would that be.
 
CSSeasider said:
Actually Nameless, as this is clearly aimed at me among others, I AM on leave. A holiday booked before the fixture was moved. I'm still in touch with the committee about this and other matters though.
BST sent a rep to the pre match briefing along with other fan reps, including the Muckers.
I have been on numerous calls/Zooms with police and FSA over these policing issues over the season. I would very much like to know why holding Blackpool fans back was pre planned as we have been told over and over again that this is a breach of human rights and can only be done as an emergency measure if there is a credible threat to public safety. It feels as if football policing regulations are being made up as we go along.
BST are already gathering information from Tuesday night and as the SLO has repeatedly said, there will have to be a debrief. If one isn't already planned then we will certainly demand one.
Anyone with information or complaints can email the Trust secretary. Please stop this negative nonsense about BST and if you have any real issues with me, or Tony or Robbie or anyone else, have the courage to make contact properly (IE not just sniping on AVFTT) and set out your issues. I'm more than happy to meet you in person to discuss.

One last thing, if any supporters ever need assistance regarding club stewarding incidents or policing incidents, Amanda Jacks at the FSA is brilliant. She is very knowledgeable, full of common sense and has helped countless football fans. Contact BST to be put in touch or go directly to the FSA.
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If people answered the question instead of thinking you are answering it with other drivel, there would be no sniping. Answer the question or shut up.
 
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