Should be straightforward for you.Pizza off moron.
You are obsessedThis is looking very likely today.
This will please some of the posters on here. They'll be applying for Italian citizenship.
Oh, hang on a minute, Brexit buggered that up.
Sorry Benito.You are obsessed
Benito CarboneSorry Benito.
Looks like Italexit may be on sooner rather than later
With the exception of staying in the EU I guess these all seem fairly consistent with a far right platform, along with other policies? Isolationism, growing 'indigenous people' (because they subscribe to the very far right and very racist great replacement theory), making immigration a key core of their policies, extreme anti-LGBT ideals. Was your post supposed to convince me they aren't far right?I do love how we polarise politics by using the word 'far' - far right, far left blah blah.
A new democratically elected government in Italy is elected on a mandate to lower taxation, grow the indigenous birth rate through benefits/tax breaks, become self reliant in terms of energy and to manage immigration better - will remain in the EU and at the heart of Europe - and has a woman leader is called 'far' right
Absolute bollocks.
There's a sub-sect of the population who really don't like the idea of universal suffrage as it gives the wrong answer.
Edited to add; I'm not convinced that borrowing to fund tax cuts and benefit increases is a good use of public money or that it will work - in the same way I don't think it'll work here - I hope I'm wrong obviously.
Is yours supposed to convince me they are?With the exception of staying in the EU I guess these all seem fairly consistent with a far right platform, along with other policies? Isolationism, growing 'indigenous people' (because they subscribe to the very far right and very racist great replacement theory), making immigration a key core of their policies, extreme anti-LGBT ideals. Was your post supposed to convince me they aren't far right?
You can think what you like, but the vast majority of peoplew will quite rightly consider the party far-right.Is yours supposed to convince me they are?
Wolf in sheep's clothing.She's quite tidy for a fascist mind...
Carbonara!Benito Carbone
Oh aye, but still...Wolf in sheep's clothing.
Yes it is weird how some people are happy when parties they like win elections and disappointed when parties they don't like win isn't it. Definitely fascist that.It’s weird how the left cannot stand a democratic result if it does not go their way, that in itself stinks of fascism you better get used to it guys because people in plenty of other countries have had enough
eh?Yes it is weird how some people are happy when parties they like win elections and disappointed when parties they don't like win isn't it. Definitely fascist that.
So Trump is a leftie after all. Well I’m speechlessIt’s weird how the left cannot stand a democratic result if it does not go their way, that in itself stinks of fascism you better get used to it guys because people in plenty of other countries have had enough
There's a difference here, in that the party taking over is a fascist party, as opposed to any Labour Government here being branded Communist/ Marxist.It’s weird how the left cannot stand a democratic result if it does not go their way, that in itself stinks of fascism you better get used to it guys because people in plenty of other countries have had enough
You would say that regardless of what you think , she got voted in, the haters will just have have to deal with itThere's a difference here, in that the party taking over is a fascist party, as opposed to any Labour Government here being branded Communist/ Marxist.
Not at all. She's stood on a fascist manifesto and got voted in. As did both Hitler and Mussolini.You would say that regardless of what you think , she got voted in, the haters will just have have to deal with it
Because Italy like France is going down the pan because of masses of illegal immigrants , the crime committed by these folk is through the roof we ain’t far behind, look no further than London, hopefully we get a party here that stands up for the working class man and woman and what we truly believeNot at all. She's stood on a fascist manifesto and got voted in. As did both Hitler and Mussolini.
Let's see what happens next.
The blame is put on them, like it is here, and as it was in the 30s. Obviously, being so much nearer to North Africa, they do have a bigger issue than we do. Presumably, if they deliver on their promises, we'll also see a massive drop off, as they'll be stopping them at source.Because Italy like France is going down the pan because of masses of illegal immigrants , the crime committed by these folk is through the roof we ain’t far behind, look no further than London, hopefully we get a party here that stands up for the working class man and woman and what we truly believe
This party label themselves Fascist. What part if that don't you understand? They are standing on a Mussolini platform.Surprise surprise that a European country being so affected by immigration, is desperate for an alternative to the all to welcoming lefties.
These aren’t citizens that have suddenly become ‘hard-right’ or ‘fascist’ or whatever pathetic label their given. These are concerned peace-loving well-meaning Italian citizens who have see their country’s make-up changed rapidly due to uncontrolled immigration. What exacerbates things is that the immigrants have different ideology and religion and values and this ultimately leads to tensions.
Look whats happened to Sweden. A formerly peaceful friendly country, which has been inundated with immigrants over the last few years. It’s now a scene of running battles form ethnic lawless gangs and its no longer the Sweden it was.
The face of Europe is rapidly being changed be folk who are often not peaceful and have no desire to respect the European values.
So quel suprise that people are rebelling and looking for an alternative.
Don’t insult these Europeans by labelling them fascist. Stand in their shoes. They just want to live in peace and not have their countries ruined.
That's why I mentioned the platform.At least the trains will run on time
Didn't spot thatThat's why I mentioned the platform.
This party label themselves Fascist. What part if that don't you understand? They are standing on a Mussolini platform.
LIke you have.No they don’t. Complete lies. Show me where they say they’re fascist.
‘Ms Meloni, who as a young woman praised Mussolini, now repudiates the Fascist dictator and his anti-Semitic laws.’
Why don’t you answer the points I made about the concerns of Europe being rapidly changed by immigration along with all the issues that’s causing? You don’t address that do you. No cos you want to bury your head in the sand and merely tut tut at these ‘fascists’ who are concerned about their own country.
But you know better than the Italian citizens cos of course you live there and you’re experiencing life day to day in Italy.
A December 2021 investigation by Fanpage.it on allegations of money laundering and illicit campaign financing also revealed FdI had ties with neo-Nazis in the Milan party section.[123] Meloni told Corriere della Sera there were no "nostalgic fascists, racists or antisemites in the Brothers of Italy DNA" and that she had always got rid of "ambiguous people",[124] and in other interviews said there was no place for fascist nostalgia in FdI. Critics have been sceptical.No they don’t. Complete lies. Show me where they say they’re fascist.
‘Ms Meloni, who as a young woman praised Mussolini, now repudiates the Fascist dictator and his anti-Semitic laws.’
Why don’t you answer the points I made about the concerns of Europe being rapidly changed by immigration along with all the issues that’s causing? You don’t address that do you. No cos you want to bury your head in the sand and merely tut tut at these ‘fascists’ who are concerned about their own country.
But you know better than the Italian citizens cos of course you live there and you’re experiencing life day to day in Italy.
some Very good pointsNo they don’t. Complete lies. Show me where they say they’re fascist.
‘Ms Meloni, who as a young woman praised Mussolini, now repudiates the Fascist dictator and his anti-Semitic laws.’
Why don’t you answer the points I made about the concerns of Europe being rapidly changed by immigration along with all the issues that’s causing? You don’t address that do you. No cos you want to bury your head in the sand and merely tut tut at these ‘fascists’ who are concerned about their own country.
But you know better than the Italian citizens cos of course you live there and you’re experiencing life day to day in Italy.
I’m still waiting for your views on how immigration has blighted countries such as Italy. I’m all ears. But the silence is deafening. It’s so much easier to shout fascist rather than actually address the real issues.A December 2021 investigation by Fanpage.it on allegations of money laundering and illicit campaign financing also revealed FdI had ties with neo-Nazis in the Milan party section.[123] Meloni told Corriere della Sera there were no "nostalgic fascists, racists or antisemites in the Brothers of Italy DNA" and that she had always got rid of "ambiguous people",[124] and in other interviews said there was no place for fascist nostalgia in FdI. Critics have been sceptical.
There are plenty of studies out there that show that benefit of immigration to the economy, and if Italy continues to have declining birth rates it is downright necessary. As for crime, while there is a short term shock, lots of evidence shows this stabilises into little to no effect long term.I’m still waiting for your views on how immigration has blighted countries such as Italy. I’m all ears. But the silence is deafening. It’s so much easier to shout fascist rather than actually address the real issues.
There are plenty of studies out there that show that benefit of immigration to the economy, and if Italy continues to have declining birth rates it is downright necessary. As for crime, while there is a short term shock, lots of evidence shows this stabilises into little to no effect long term.
There are plenty of studies out there that show that benefit of immigration to the economy, and if Italy continues to have declining birth rates it is downright necessary. As for crime, while there is a short term shock, lots of evidence shows this stabilises into little to no effect long term.
The unspoken truth is the indigenous white folk need to start having lots and lots of babies very soon or immigration is essential to prop up an ageing population.I’m still waiting for your views on how immigration has blighted countries such as Italy. I’m all ears. But the silence is deafening. It’s so much easier to shout fascist rather than actually address the real issues.
The unspoken truth is the indigenous white folk need to start having lots and lots of babies very soon or immigration is essential to prop up an ageing population.
If you actually read the posts instead of screeds of ranting, you'd see that I've said let's see if the rhetoric matches up. I've also said that we should see a drop in those coming over the Channel because the Italians will be stopping them at source.I’m still waiting for your views on how immigration has blighted countries such as Italy. I’m all ears. But the silence is deafening. It’s so much easier to shout fascist rather than actually address the real issues.
You're wasting your breath, any post that makes sense on these kind of threads is studiously ignored amongst the bile and second hand vitriol.Always find it odd that the people who are really opposed to immigration are also often militaristic and against foreign aid.
I'd say stop bombing people and fleecing them of their natural resources and invest fairly in their countries and maybe they won't want to come here!
Liz Truss wants more people to come to the UK, reports that other members of the cabinet are against it. Maybe the asylum seekers should be allowed to work, there are jobs that need doing and nobody wants to be called a leech.If you actually read the posts instead of screeds of ranting, you'd see that I've said let's see if the rhetoric matches up. I've also said that we should see a drop in those coming over the Channel because the Italians will be stopping them at source.
Let's then see how the economy booms as a consequence when all those leeching asylum seekers aren't coming over.
It was established that overseas workers contributed more to the Exchequer than they took out, but the Little Englander mentality ignores that.There are a fee aspects
Liz Truss wants more people to come to the UK, reports that other members of the cabinet are against it. Maybe the asylum seekers should be allowed to work, there are jobs that need doing and nobody wants to be called a leech.
Care to share some of those?
You're wasting your breath, any post that makes sense on these kind of threads is studiously ignored amongst the bile and second hand vitriol.