Fed up of this agenda against Sadler and Mansford

AngelBFC said:
Because I find it very difficult to believe that the Raggy meeting with the players hadn’t been sanctioned by SS

It wasn’t a hastily arranged last minute affair
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The fan met with Geritty and Mansford who wanted to know about the threats to go down to the training ground & have a word with the players.

When the fan said he was still going to go down and have a word with the players Mansford told him he’d have to cancel training for the day. They compromised that if he didn’t go to the training ground he could have a sit down with the players a couple of days later. It was as last minute haphazard as it gets.

Trust me when I tell you Sadler hit the roof when he found out.
 
AngelBFC said:
Because I find it very difficult to believe that the Raggy meeting with the players hadn’t been sanctioned by SS

It wasn’t a hastily arranged last minute affair
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Rektseasider said:
The fan met with Geritty and Mansford who wanted to know about the threats to go down to the training ground & have a word with the players.

When the fan said he was still going to go down and have a word with the players Mansford told him he’d have to cancel training for the day. They compromised that if he didn’t go to the training ground he could have a sit down with the players a couple of days later. It was as last minute haphazard as it gets.

Trust me when I tell you Sadler hit the roof when he found out.
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I’m torn by this

Can’t see the meeting taking place without SS sanctioning it Equally I can’t see him doing that
I’m still gobsmacked it happened

Only at Blackpool 😀
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
I’m torn by this

Can’t see the meeting taking place without SS sanctioning it Equally I can’t see him doing that
I’m still gobsmacked it happened

Only at Blackpool 😀
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Can only go off what I’ve been told by someone well placed.

Sadler had no idea that was going to happen and was livid a day or so later when it broke. Also it reached the tabloids which added to the embarrassment he felt.
 
Rektseasider said:
The fan met with Geritty and Mansford who wanted to know about the threats to go down to the training ground & have a word with the players.

When the fan said he was still going to go down and have a word with the players Mansford told him he’d have to cancel training for the day. They compromised that if he didn’t go to the training ground he could have a sit down with the players a couple of days later. It was as last minute haphazard as it gets.

Trust me when I tell you Sadler hit the roof when he found out.
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Quite rightly he hit the roof, it shouldn't be happening at a professional football club.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Can’t see the meeting taking place without SS sanctioning it Equally I can’t see him doing that
I’m still gobsmacked it happened

Only at Blackpool 😀
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Not sure there was any alternative

Either a potentially ugly scene at the training ground with a group of fans or a more civilised chat in a controlled setting with a couple of fans

Raggy felt he had to do something

Club had little option it would seem
 
JJpool said:
Well, that's Brett gone....
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Yep it’s all very sad our immature fan base doing their utmost to drive genuine people out. If Sadler gets fed up of the personal abuse from numpties who seem to think Clubs run on fresh air and calls it a day it won’t be a short stay in league 1 it’ll be decades. And yes I know we could get a sheikh but more likely we’d get a chancer. Just think what SS must think reading some of the cretinous comments from our so called fans when he’s signing cheques covering shortfalls every month and bankrolled us through Covid. Personally wouldn’t blame him if he told us to do one.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
I’m torn by this

Can’t see the meeting taking place without SS sanctioning it Equally I can’t see him doing that
I’m still gobsmacked it happened

Only at Blackpool 😀
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If SS wasn't available for whatever reason, BM could've sanctioned it off his own bat, but it was a poor decision and I can see how SS wouldn't have been happy.

Should've just sent some extra security down there and threatened a stadium ban for anyone attempting to disrupt training.
 
Martonmosser said:
You happy it’s not then? What a sad individual you are, Brett will be sorely missed
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No I liked Brett the times that I met him. I’m just laughing at your cast iron promises that I was wrong. Sadler felt ultimately despite being mates Brett had let things get out of control.

So confident weren’t you. I’m sorry I have to gloat because you gave it the biggun
 
Memphisboy said:
Yep it’s all very sad our immature fan base doing their utmost to drive genuine people out. If Sadler gets fed up of the personal abuse from numpties who seem to think Clubs run on fresh air and calls it a day it won’t be a short stay in league 1 it’ll be decades. And yes I know we could get a sheikh but more likely we’d get a chancer. Just think what SS must think reading some of the cretinous comments from our so called fans when he’s signing cheques covering shortfalls every month and bankrolled us through Covid. Personally wouldn’t blame him if he told us to do one.
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Who's driving people out?

I posted that as I read the rumour that he'd fallen out with SS and it was said he would be gone, couple of weeks later he's gone.

So I bumped the thread.
 
Rektseasider said:
No I liked Brett the times that I met him. I’m just laughing at your cast iron promises that I was wrong. Sadler felt ultimately despite being mates Brett had let things get out of control.

So confident weren’t you. I’m sorry I have to gloat because you gave it the biggun
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So sorry to gloat……. yet your next 3 posts do exactly that 🙄
 
Martonmosser said:
Sour about what, a good man stepping down and you gloating about it? 🙄
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Haha nothing to do with Ben. So sure I was wrong weren’t you. That what I’m gloating about maybe I shouldn’t but…. ‘ I know someone even better placed’ quality pissing myself over that. As the only person better places would have been Sadler. 😂.

Once again. Clown. Peace out.
 
Stopped reading at this point ..

Memphisboy said:
Bowler Poveda Yates Rogers Keshi Patino Fiorini Madine Gabriel I’ve never known a squad with as much talent, firepower and depth as our squad this season, on paper anyway
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Bowler should never have left (Sadler/Mansford) and has come back half the player
Poveda has had one really good game
Yates has been brilliant in an appalling side
Rogers couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo
Keshi should have an extras role in Casualty
Patino has a great chant but has been disappoining
Fiorini hasn't featured enough to make an impact
Madine was having a poor season up to his injury
Gabriel - well now we're scraping the bottom of the barrel!

Let me just remind you of your quote and forgive me whilst my eyeballs disappear in to their sockets!!
I’ve never known a squad with as much talent, firepower and depth as our squad this season
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Maths said:
Stopped reading at this point ..



Bowler should never have left (Sadler/Mansford) and has come back half the player
Poveda has had one really good game
Yates has been brilliant in an appalling side
Rogers couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo
Keshi should have an extras role in Casualty
Patino has a great chant but has been disappoining
Fiorini hasn't featured enough to make an impact
Madine was having a poor season up to his injury
Gabriel - well now we're scraping the bottom of the barrel!

Let me just remind you of your quote and forgive me whilst my eyeballs disappear in to their sockets!!
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If all those players listed above were here next season we’d get promoted as long as we had a semi competent manager. Maths obviously wasn‘t around in the late 80s early 90s if he thinks that list is scraping the barrel
 
Memphisboy said:
Bowler Poveda Yates Rogers Keshi Patino Fiorini Madine Gabriel I’ve never known a squad with as much talent, firepower and depth as our squad this season, on paper anyway 😀 In addition to the creativity I also think we have, when not riddled with injuries, a strong spine and a strong depth to the squad. Which is why the abuse SS and Mansford get is out of order, they’ve provided the funds and squad numbers the only problem has been the choice of managers after Critchley left us in the lurch and whilst yes Appleton and Mick haven’t done it I understood why they got the jobs and plenty of others supported the appointments at the time.
We have got to take some of the criticism as well if we hadn’t been so childish in drumming Appleton out and basically forcing the boards hands I think we’d be safe by now, there’d been plenty of signs Appleton knew what he was doing and in an injury hit first half of the season had still churned out some good wins, we beat Notts Forest by 4 the week before he was axed.
Mick has been a letdown but once we’d forced Appleton out I can’t have been the only one who thought yeah decent appointment to keep us up. So whilst this season has been a disappointment I just think it’s been one of those perfect storm seasons where everything that could go wrong has gone wrong and with hindsight the appointments weren’t great but that’s life sometimes things aren’t meant to be.
We need to stop the blame game grow a pair and support Simon otherwise be careful what you wish for we just might drive him away and i doubt there’s anyone else out there who’d invest as much time and money as him.
And you never know we’re not even down yet!
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Yes
 
The tirade of trash emitted by ‘fans’ to all those real fans who try to make the Club palatable is wearing.

The season’s over, everyone associated with the Club needs a reset over the summer - just to remind everyone where we stand :
We are about to be relegated - the cost of that in £’s is huge. Plus, we do so in this manner;
No Manager
No Board
No recruitment /Director of football
And probably lots of other missing pieces

All of this was largely created by one smug greedy x manager -why we have had discussions with him over next season I have no idea - I wouldn’t welcome him in my street and if this was any other genre of work there wouldn’t even be a mention of him.

If you think we were in a mess under the O’s think on - we are in a terrible position at every level. If we aren’t please enlighten me.

I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes as I don’t work at the Club. But someone there does, and I think the Chairman should open his heart and clear his head of what is to us the paying audience/fans. I sense it’s been a season of hell and been going on for a full year with few moments of calm.

To the majority of fair minded Blackpool fans let’s hear from you as some of the usual posters on here drag the Club down, cause Division and lack cohesive harmony. If you haven’t posted for a while do.

All Clubs have down turns but we have mastered the fastest sinking imaginable once again. - sometimes we never learn eg M Appleton, walked out on us in the Championship for a better offer from our next door neighbours. Thanks Michael. Give it a year or two and a lot of gym work outs and we’ll be desperate enough to open the Manager’s door for you again. If we’re going to do this with J Critchley then we really do need to get the straight jackets out. Don’t we?

If you don’t like what I post fair enough
If I don’t like your post, I am entitled to say so

So, Abusive bullying is no way forward, and rather small minded - all I ask is you respect people’s views that just maybe, know as much as you about the Club

We can’t keep imploding as a fan base and Club like we do. Surely, no otherClub suffers like we do.

For all those looking forward to L1 ….. don’t it’s dull and getting out of it to a more acceptable level of footie is not just a case of throwing money at it (which we have not got). But we’ve wasted a Large fortune over the panic of the last year.

Enjoy the break
Cambers
 
clappers said:
How Mansford is still in situ is beyond me.
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If he wasn't, there'd be nobody running the club. He's probably a victim of his own massive job description. He's like a posh Matt Williams. He really should have had voice coaching before taking up the job to help avoid all the bigotry and blame thrown his way.

If there's never any patience and understanding, you end up with nobody. And then vagabonds fill the vacuum.

We've seen it before.
 
voyeur said:
If he wasn't, there'd be nobody running the club. He's probably a victim of his own massive job description. He's like a posh Matt Williams. He really should have had voice coaching before taking up the job to help avoid all the bigotry and blame thrown his way.

If there's never any patience and understanding, you end up with nobody. And then vagabonds fill the vacuum.

We've seen it before.
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Posh? He's from Hull 🤣
 
JJpool said:
They don't have to if we price it right and have a better season.
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Every time we've been relegated from the Championship gates have dropped right away.

As for pricing, the problem is other sources of income, primarily TV money, will plummet. Gate money is therefore more important than ever as the main income stream.

I can't see prices being cut. Frozen maybe, but people were grumbling at that price for Championship football. They won't turn up for League One games.

If you look at other League One season tickets, ours aren't more expensive than the majority.
 
Wizaard said:
Every time we've been relegated from the Championship gates have dropped right away.

As for pricing, the problem is other sources of income, primarily TV money, will plummet. Gate money is therefore more important than ever as the main income stream.

I can't see prices being cut. Frozen maybe, but people were grumbling at that price for Championship football. They won't turn up for League One games.

If you look at other League One season tickets, ours aren't more expensive than the majority.
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The club need to be smart about it, many championship clubs charge way less so not sure how we could justify it especially considering Blackpool is a poor area.

We need fans back onside, hit the right price point, good manager appointment and have a decent season.
 
Wizaard said:
Every time we've been relegated from the Championship gates have dropped right away.

As for pricing, the problem is other sources of income, primarily TV money, will plummet. Gate money is therefore more important than ever as the main income stream.

I can't see prices being cut. Frozen maybe, but people were grumbling at that price for Championship football. They won't turn up for League One games.

If you look at other League One season tickets, ours aren't more expensive than the majority.
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And most other teams also fail to fill their grounds

Comparing dog shit with dog this is pretty irrelevant
 
Not really got inolved in this thread or debate. However, my view is that I still fully back Sadler. Yep, as said the buck stops with him but does it really? He's appointed a CEO in Mansford and as the CEO i don't believe he has to go to Sadler to sign off everything to do with running the club, especially when it comes to players contracts and budgets. For me, the blame for our poor record this season in getting deals done, and giving crocks contracts has to stop and end at Mansford. So again for me, the only decision Sadler has to consider is whether Mansford has spent the owners money wisely and my view would be a resounding no. So on that basis, Mansford would be gone, Yep, I appreciate that there could be a ton of things Mansford is doing well behind the scenes with off field plans and developments but I support the football team and that is my no 1 concern. Every thing else is secondary, no matter how important they are.
 
20togo said:
Not really got inolved in this thread or debate. However, my view is that I still fully back Sadler. Yep, as said the buck stops with him but does it really? He's appointed a CEO in Mansford and as the CEO i don't believe he has to go to Sadler to sign off everything to do with running the club, especially when it comes to players contracts and budgets. For me, the blame for our poor record this season in getting deals done, and giving crocks contracts has to stop and end at Mansford. So again for me, the only decision Sadler has to consider is whether Mansford has spent the owners money wisely and my view would be a resounding no. So on that basis, Mansford would be gone, Yep, I appreciate that there could be a ton of things Mansford is doing well behind the scenes with off field plans and developments but I support the football team and that is my no 1 concern. Every thing else is secondary, no matter how important they are.
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Is that how it works though? Does Mansford decide who we buy and who wee don't? He'll be involved, but only as one of a small group. He doesn't identify players for starters. And he doesn't set the budget either. So his role is just the administration of deals, I would imagine. Thee admin bit, not the bits that ultimately decide which players come to us.
 
voyeur said:
Is that how it works though? Does Mansford decide who we buy and who wee don't? He'll be involved, but only as one of a small group. He doesn't identify players for starters. And he doesn't set the budget either. So his role is just the administration of deals, I would imagine. Thee admin bit, not the bits that ultimately decide which players come to us.
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That's the way I imagine it works. Appy might have said I want Bridcutt, for example, and Ben trusted him, and backed him but someone should have done a bit more due dilligence.
The recruitment team will however be responsible for most of the deals and they certainly should do the due diligence etc.
 
Insider said:
That's the way I imagine it works. Appy might have said I want Bridcutt, for example, and Ben trusted him, and backed him but someone should have done a bit more due dilligence.
The recruitment team will however be responsible for most of the deals and they certainly should do the due diligence etc.
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Yes. So BM is virtually blameless.

Do we actually need to blame anybody? The reasons for failure are complex on one level, and all about money on another level. We are always trying to box above our weight. We are not in a position to compete on a level playing field with most of the championship. In terms of fees, wages, scouting, facilities, etc. In terms of where we are as a club, we might get promoted from L1 when we get all the ducks lined up, and relegated from the Championship when the ducks all fall off the wall. We are in a band of clubs that breach the top half of L1 and bottom half of the Championship. Sadler has paid for a lot of things that the Oystons never did, including staff in support roles. We are pretty fortunate to have what we have.

Which clubs are on a level playing field with us? Maybe...

Millwall - similar size club to us it seems, but they have the London advantage, sort of.
Rovers - a bit bigger than us but not much. Bigger budget but by how much?
PKE - similar budget surely. But much duller.
Wigan - similar to us but a rugby town, we should do better.
Rotherham - quite a close match probably
Luton - ducks all lined up
Reading - similar size but different culture and location. Period of investment has worn off.
QPR - have advantages over us location wise and attendances a bit higher

In L1, the closest matches are probably:

Barnsley - similar to us I reckon
Charlton - potentially bigger than us but are they fan owned?
Plymouth - averaging 15k in L1

Then there are 5 bigger clubs than us:

The Massive Club
Derby
Bolton
Ipswich
Portsmouth

These occupy 5 of the top 7 places in L1. The rest of L1 are smaller than us.

So we are in a band of about a dozen clubs straddling 2 divisions. Of those:

4 are over achieving - Luton, Millwall, Rovers and PKE
5 are approx in the right zone - Pool, Wigan, QPR, Reading and Rotherham.
3 are underachieving - Barnsley, Charlton and Plymouth (though Plymouth are top and Barnsley are 4th in L1 with 82 points)

We allowed the ducks to drop off their nails and will drop below the mean performance line next season. But will be competing with a small number of bigger clubs and a lot of smaller clubs. Pompey are the big underachievers surely? They are going to miss out on the play offs again. Why did Bournemouth get bought out but not Pompey, a potentially much bigger club? It may be the passionate fan factor? The potential for hassle? Why take all that on? Just own a benign club like Bournemouth and live in comfort. Dodge the bullets and the bottles.
 
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voyeur said:
Is that how it works though? Does Mansford decide who we buy and who wee don't? He'll be involved, but only as one of a small group. He doesn't identify players for starters. And he doesn't set the budget either. So his role is just the administration of deals, I would imagine. Thee admin bit, not the bits that ultimately decide which players come to us.
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I'm sure he won't be the one identifying the players we need, that's pretty obvious. But he is the one responsible for getting deals over the line. He knows the budget, his due diligence should know who the crocks are. So yep, in my view he's far from blameless. In fact, in my view there's a helluva lot of blame put at his door. For gods sake, due diligence done on all the crocks we've signed and the same due diligence on Colby Bishop who we didn't sign because he's a crock. Been given the tag "bullshit" for what seems a pretty good reason.
 
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