FFS - More injuries now than before the break

Philbfctrois said:
Players do get injured in training you know they aren't wrapped in bubble wrap

Infact there is probably more chance if getting injured in training than there is on a match day
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Your wasting your time with that one, some just done quite understand and never will. Maybe they should just do breathing exercises in training to be safe😯
 
tangysider said:
Are our players that fragile that we cannot get more than a few games from them. If we are unlikely to be buying any players in Jan, we need to recall at least some of the loans.
6 to 7 out after a month long break is a joke
Obviously Sicknote Stewart, Keshi, Eki will be unavailable, but God knows who the others, are.
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Gabriel and Thornily is still out with concussion .😧
 
haggertyf said:
You seemed to be blaming Scrafton because (in your opinion) he's an appalling journalist which was the point I was trying to make. His reporting of Appleton's press conference will be accurate because(in my opinion) I think he's a good journalist.
We will just have to disagree on this one
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It seems like Scrafton is on a crusade to get appleton potted🙁
 
Adams Kebab said:
There comes a time that no matter how frustrated you are, you have to be positive.

He’s the leader of the team.

As a leader your excuses become the excuses of the people you lead. Middlesbrough game highlighted this perfectly.

He’s just deflated the fanbase.

Positive vibes only.
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So when Scrafton asks him about players available you want him to lie and say that we have a fully fit squad ready to play tomorrow?
 
Beat me to it Ansdell. If he's asked something along the lines of "has the WC break helped get more players back from injury", what's he supposed to say?
 
ansdellmafia said:
So when Scrafton asks him about players available you want him to lie and say that we have a fully fit squad ready to play tomorrow?
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Need to know basis at this stage to be fair. It’s pretty easy to palm a question off.

We’ve had a 4 week break, nice week in Spain, . At the last game before the break we had an large element of fans telling him to do one (which was wrong). However, back from the break, everyone keen to get back amongst it…

Then up steps Dr Doom, telling everyone it’s worse than before the break when we were shite and everyone was praying for the break.

Now, that might be the case, but by saying “we’re ready for it tomorrow, there’s a few we need to check-in on but we’re raring to get back amongst it and get some much needed points”…

It totally changes the mindset of fans attending. From the ones I’ve spoken to this morning, it’s mood hoovering.

No need to say it given where we are. I’ve liked his honesty, but this morning is just miserable negativity. True or not.
 
CGP1 said:
Beat me to it Ansdell. If he's asked something along the lines of "has the WC break helped get more players back from injury", what's he supposed to say?
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We’ve a few to check in on but the players we’ve got ready are fully aware of what’s required and will do what we need.

Bit more positive than its worse than before the break.
 
He’s coming home said:
Your wasting your time with that one, some just done quite understand and never will. Maybe they should just do breathing exercises in training to be safe😯
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Yeah and given players generally play 1 match a week and train 3 or 4 times a week its obvious that there is more chance of getting injured training than on a match day

Law of averages and all that
 
Towerpower99 said:
Well it was worth waiting a month for the uplifting injury news…..raring to go now 😳
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My thoughts as well. I think MA's comments may well put a few off who might have otherwise attended after a 4 week break.

ST holder so I'm going, but I'm feeling the same as I did before the Middlesbrough game. Not looking forward to it as much at all now. Ah well, I'll just have an extra one in the Armfield before the game.
 
Dave62 said:
My thoughts as well. I think MA's comments may well put a few off who might have otherwise attended after a 4 week break.

ST holder so I'm going, but I'm feeling the same as I did before the Middlesbrough game. Not looking forward to it as much at all now. Ah well, I'll just have an extra one in the Armfield before the game.
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You might want to have an extra one in the Armfield during the game 😉
 
It's bad news; however, now is the time for our squad players to step up to the plate and make a claim for a regular first team place.
Alternatively, we could climb into the ground this evening and take those posh sheets off, so the pitch freezes overnight 😂
If we lose this game, the MA doubters will be out in force 🧡
 
585 = never give up said:
It's bad news; however, now is the time for our squad players to step up to the plate and make a claim for a regular first team place.
Alternatively, we could climb into the ground this evening and take those posh sheets off, so the pitch freezes overnight 😂
If we lose this game, the MA doubters will be out in force 🧡
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Why would you not doubt him?
 
Philbfctrois said:
Yeah and given players generally play 1 match a week and train 3 or 4 times a week its obvious that there is more chance of getting injured training than on a match day

Law of averages and all that
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Law of averages that take little account of the wider situation - such as intensity of tackling and the ability of the coaching staff to have more control over what happens in a training session compared to a game.

Of course, the real question is whether there really are new injuries or whether they are new "injuries"...

AK is right in his point though. The spin MA is putting on pretty much everything is a total mood killer and the exact opposite of what this club needs at this level. Even more so if he's playing with one hand behind his back because the board have had to cut their cloth too tight.
 
Michael Appleton here, just so you all know, we have a lot of injuries going into tomorrow, so I’m setting up not to lose,of course we might be lucky and get a lucky, breakaway goal, but it’s unlikely. As it’s very cold as well, you might as well stay at home, or if you don’t want to put the heating on, go to a community centre somewhere, you’ll get a free cup of tea and some boring conversation. Added to which of course, there’s 3,400 very noisy Birmingham fans coming so you’ll struggle to be heard, yeah, leave it tomorrow.
 
Dave62 said:
My thoughts as well. I think MA's comments may well put a few off who might have otherwise attended after a 4 week break.

ST holder so I'm going, but I'm feeling the same as I did before the Middlesbrough game. Not looking forward to it as much at all now. Ah well, I'll just have an extra one in the Armfield before the game.
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If its just the usual crowd missing plus a few set backs from people we kind of know about, Thorniley, Fiorini maybe one of the people we hoped to have back then it wouldn't be too bad. Is Ekpiteta included in the 7 missing?

It could just be the total number plus one or 2, who we have managed without somewhat, would be disappointing but not worth bringing everyone down about if so.
 
Bu
585 = never give up said:
It's bad news; however, now is the time for our squad players to step up to the plate and make a claim for a regular first team place.
Alternatively, we could climb into the ground this evening and take those posh sheets off, so the pitch freezes overnight 😂
If we lose this game, the MA doubters will be out in force 🧡
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But in certain positions we have no squad players … e.g. centre halves . There is nobody at all as the daft sod let them all go or out on loan.
 
GetMaddenOn said:
Bu

But in certain positions we have no squad players … e.g. centre halves . There is nobody at all as the daft sod let them all go or out on loan.
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Maybe Madine fancies centre half, he is less mobile than he used to be but wins most headers and reads games well
 
It's not MA's fault, he's just saying it as it is, it's not Scrafton's fault, he's just reporting what he has been told and both will be gutted. It is of course, incredibly bad luck, but if we are worse off than before the break there are obviously some of the players who were playing before the break who are now injured. We will have to wait and see who. We just have to put out what we can and hope we don't pick up more injuries in the sub zero temperatures and on a dodgy, frosty pitch.

I still say the recruitment for the last 2 windows has been scandalously awful, which is why we have a new team to do that work. The summer window was a joke and having to sign Ward & Bridcutt was just the icing on the cake. We are paying for the boards incompetence over the past 12 months and we are now desperately pinning our hopes onto this January's window but it is a difficult window to make progress in. I would certainly send Corbeanu and Poveda back, they are luxuries we can't afford and they really aren't good enough or committed enough. If Fiorini has gone back to City that leaves 3 loan spots. That is where we need to be looking to get 3 players from, ones that are not going to come and swan around like Billy big bollocks and failing that, then money will have to be spent and wages increased to have any chance of getting 3 or 4 players through the door. Get Thame and Dale back and get them performing too. If we fuck up January, which is highly possible, then we will go down without a doubt.

I think we may see a new manager in by Christmas too, I don't think that's right, but I can't see how MA can continue and it is likely to be better for him if he goes. Ollie & Thommo's tangerine army!! 🙈 🤣 😱
 
It does look a little like getting excuses in early.
However lot of defeatist posts on here - take the sheets off,league 1 etc.
Ffs they are bringing 3500 and will be roaring their team on were acting like we have lost before the ball has been kicked
Granted Appletons gloomy assessment is not helpful
Thermals ready
 
Very worrying.

Not going to lay blame anywhere . It is what it is. Likely down to just pure bad luck.

We will have to thrive on adversity . We can motivate the players.
 
Does make me wonder if maybe the players don’t want to play for the manager. It’s pretty clear players would run through walls for some managers and play through the pain barrier - Appleton doesn’t strike me as a manager to get that out of his players - certainly not this current group. Perhaps this group know Apples time could soon be up and really aren’t interested in helping him out.
 
This isn't an Appleton thing in my opinion.

We weren't that much better last season.

I said it before and I'll say it again.

We need to get a tie up with a top US College Sports Science/Medicine department.

They keep on top of literally hundreds of students in so many disciplines who are essentially playing at a level which we are - and they don't break down nearly as often as we do.

It would be great experience and improves the quality of what we do a million times over.
 
Philbfctrois said:
If we go down its down to the board for trying to do things on the cheap
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As well as a manager who cannot motivate the players he does have.

This new injury bollox sounds to me like he's lost the changing room, players maybe feining injury because they just can't be arsed or actually dislike what they are being told to do (that's my thoughts)

This manager has to work with what he has and what he's brought and he has brought some right shite in on panic buys and rubbish loans, nowhere near Championship quality.

The timing of these excuses does absolute nothing for the fanbase apart from depress everyone, I can't imagine many are looking forward to football prior to the 7pm kick off tomorrow.

Tomorrow could be absolutely toxic if Blackpool FC don't turn up and personally I am not looking forward to it, hope I am wrong but I fear another home defeat is on the cards, a narrow loss may give him some more time but a hammering and I think it could well be sayōnara for Mr Appleton.

(Replies to this will be fun 😁)
 
Bennys_was_a_mob said:
As well as a manager who cannot motivate the players he does have.

This new injury bollox sounds to me like he's lost the changing room, players maybe feining injury because they just can't be arsed or actually dislike what they are being told to do (that's my thoughts)

This manager has to work with what he has and what he's brought and he has brought some right shite in on panic buys and rubbish loans, nowhere near Championship quality.

The timing of these excuses does absolute nothing for the fanbase apart from depress everyone, I can't imagine many are looking forward to football prior to the 7pm kick off tomorrow.

Tomorrow could be absolutely toxic if Blackpool FC don't turn up and personally I am not looking forward to it, hope I am wrong but I fear another home defeat is on the cards, a narrow loss may give him some more time but a hammering and I think it could well be sayōnara for Mr Appleton.

(Replies to this will be fun 😁)
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The transfers are identified and done by the recruitment team. The players he wanted they couldn't agree terms with so he has been hamstrung (pun intended) and your theory of losing the dressing room is just pure speculation, there is no evidence of that whatsoever.
 
I think it'll be shown in the next games of whether they're having Appleton and his coaches or not. An all expenses paid trip away from their normal environment to work on everything they've not been able to do together because of the run of games has got to yield a positive reaction.
 
hertfordseasider said:
It's not MA's fault, he's just saying it as it is, it's not Scrafton's fault, he's just reporting what he has been told and both will be gutted. It is of course, incredibly bad luck, but if we are worse off than before the break there are obviously some of the players who were playing before the break who are now injured. We will have to wait and see who. We just have to put out what we can and hope we don't pick up more injuries in the sub zero temperatures and on a dodgy, frosty pitch.

I still say the recruitment for the last 2 windows has been scandalously awful, which is why we have a new team to do that work. The summer window was a joke and having to sign Ward & Bridcutt was just the icing on the cake. We are paying for the boards incompetence over the past 12 months and we are now desperately pinning our hopes onto this January's window but it is a difficult window to make progress in. I would certainly send Corbeanu and Poveda back, they are luxuries we can't afford and they really aren't good enough or committed enough. If Fiorini has gone back to City that leaves 3 loan spots. That is where we need to be looking to get 3 players from, ones that are not going to come and swan around like Billy big bollocks and failing that, then money will have to be spent and wages increased to have any chance of getting 3 or 4 players through the door. Get Thame and Dale back and get them performing too. If we fuck up January, which is highly possible, then we will go down without a doubt.

I think we may see a new manager in by Christmas too, I don't think that's right, but I can't see how MA can continue and it is likely to be better for him if he goes. Ollie & Thommo's tangerine army!! 🙈 🤣 😱
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MA has total control over how he addresses the local press and what messages he wants to get out there to the supporters. He's also in total control over his conversations and relationships with the players and how he gets them fighting tooth and nail for him. The hand a coach/manager is dealt may not be his choice, but what he does with it is.

I fully agree that the recruitment has been poor - whether by choice or simple lack of funds - but the team/squad is not a bunch of no hopers. There's some quality there, as proven by some good results this season. The team look much better when they're lively and POSITIVE. The same can be said for the supporters. We've missed that spark this season and that's not a surprise.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Need to know basis at this stage to be fair. It’s pretty easy to palm a question off.

We’ve had a 4 week break, nice week in Spain, . At the last game before the break we had an large element of fans telling him to do one (which was wrong). However, back from the break, everyone keen to get back amongst it…

Then up steps Dr Doom, telling everyone it’s worse than before the break when we were shite and everyone was praying for the break.

Now, that might be the case, but by saying “we’re ready for it tomorrow, there’s a few we need to check-in on but we’re raring to get back amongst it and get some much needed points”…

It totally changes the mindset of fans attending. From the ones I’ve spoken to this morning, it’s mood hoovering.

No need to say it given where we are. I’ve liked his honesty, but this morning is just miserable negativity. True or not.
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Dr Doom 🤣🤣
 
Charlie said it had been a good camp overall, which I thought meant there was some bad bits.
 
If we have taken the players to Spain on a jolly and we now have more injuries after a four week break then something has gone badly wrong somewhere.

Injuries on this sort of scale must relate to the training and fitness regime and needs to be reviewed.

Looking at the players apparently out are we looking at King Kenny at CB and is Lyons not available until January?
 
Wilburrabbit said:
If we have taken the players to Spain on a jolly and we now have more injuries after a four week break then something has gone badly wrong somewhere.

Injuries on this sort of scale must relate to the training and fitness regime and needs to be reviewed.

Looking at the players apparently out are we looking at King Kenny at CB and is Lyons not available until January?
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We do not know who is available, but best guess would be Connolly, Williams, Hubbie, Thompson as defence
Or be radical and go 3 at the back
Lyons not available till Jan, hopefully new year's day.
Rotterdam+Sussex_Seasider said:
Kaiser Gaz! I was mulling over that idea earlier today.
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I would be trying him out in training matches, it might extend his career
 
tangysider said:
Are our players that fragile that we cannot get more than a few games from them. If we are unlikely to be buying any players in Jan, we need to recall at least some of the loans.
6 to 7 out after a month long break is a joke
Obviously Sicknote Stewart, Keshi, Eki will be unavailable, but God knows who the others, are.
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Thornley and husband and Gabriel are another 3 along with ekpiteta Stewart Keshi ** sickening. I’m getting really pissed off with the non stop injuries. It’s been constant the past 2 seasons. Why are these happening all the time ?
We’ve had at least 6 out every game this season which is now becoming a pissing joke
Saying they’re all gunna be out until January WTF
 
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