Fleetwood v Blackpool Official Matchday Thread 01.11.23

voyeur said:
More under performing. More goals conceded. A better manager does better than this.
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I'm beginning to get annoyed with him. He's making strange decisions and isn't improving us in many areas.

We've gone backwards defensively, conceding goals to poor sides.

He makes defensive subs but the desired effect doesn't come off, we end up conceding still.

The effective pressing unit we used to be under him rarely shows up.

We haven't put in a decent performance for a whole game or more than 1 half, usually 20 or 30 mins tbh.

Then we sit back and foot off the gas again.

There's some real quality when we're at it, probably better or as good as any side in the division, when Dembele is pinging passes through the lines.

But there's too many mistakes from players and the manager right now.

Carey did so well to score those goals, gives the ball away cheaply at the end there for them to score, although you have to blame others too there.

Overall, just not good enough.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I can only think that Dembele isn't up to a 90 minute outing at the moment. I can't see any other reason for him not starting.
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maybe - but start like we did in the second half, or against oxford and get into teams from the off get ahead and then maybe just maybe you think about shutting up shop getting solid and hitting on the break.

its seems a fairly potent combination dembele and carey behind a front two.
 
Skye Charlie said:
Who’s going to pack critchleys bags .if Sadler is happy with this 352 shit ,go 2or 3 goals down before they decide to start playing ,then we get back in front then stop playing fetch connoly on and then concede again ,what is going on ,every time we start to defend we concede ,what tactics manual is critchley reading
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The goal was not Connolly's fault, the message from the bench must have been hold on to our lead, subs told us that but suspect the direction came from the dugout.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
maybe - but start like we did in the second half, or against oxford and get into teams from the off get ahead and then maybe just maybe you think about shutting up shop getting solid and hitting on the break.

its seems a fairly potent combination dembele and carey behind a front two.
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Have to play a narrow 442 then
 
Costero Poderoso said:
maybe - but start like we did in the second half, or against oxford and get into teams from the off get ahead and then maybe just maybe you think about shutting up shop getting solid and hitting on the break.

its seems a fairly potent combination dembele and carey behind a front two.
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We will never know until he starts with him
 
When he took us up, Critch had good loanee's and good staff behind him, but this season he's been found wanting and he doesn't have the experience to get us out of the hole he's throwing us in, and he's too frickin' stubborn to change! Fist pumping aside he's a No 2 at best and I hope Sadler can see it before its too late (like last season)
 
Wizzerboy said:
FFS we're 16 games into the season.
We have won more than we've lost but keep drawing games with teams we should be beating!!!
THATS THE PROBLEM
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Yep - should have won at Oxford, Charlton, Cods, Orient, Port Vale - that would give us an extra 8 points plus

We wouldn’t be moaning as much with that points haul

What is scary, apart from Carey, is how many goals we’re conceding -3 tonight against the team with the scorst home record in Europe
 
Camberwell1 said:
Yep - should have won at Oxford, Charlton, Cods, Orient, Port Vale - that would give us an extra 8 points plus

We wouldn’t be moaning as much with that points haul

What is scary, apart from Carey, is how many goals we’re conceding -3 tonight against the team with the scorst home record in Europe
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You forgot Exeter
 
The doom and gloom, the blame game. Great game of football a proper derby, they excelled themselves and scored some good goals, we showed in glimpses how good we can be, Dembele is a special talent the likes that come around once in a lifetime, once he is fully match fit and the team clicks properly we will storm the league, 2/3 of the season to go yet. UTMP 🍊
 
Sorry Hazi, it’s just yet another Critchley disaster class where we play one half of football but only when he’s forced out of his clever dick game planning. And yet again it costs us points.
 
Macseasider said:
Whatever opinions you have you'd have to agree that was a tremendous football match.

Really enjoyed it despite the equaliser.
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Fleetwood deserved it to be honest . Could have jacked it in but battled well. Mind you cautious Critch gave them a bit of a leg up on that one
 
neyo said:
Fleetwood better first half, you lot better second. Draw probably fair when you reflect. Why you invited pressure at 2-3 and didn't go for a fourth when you were so dominant, I have no idea though... Did feel like suicide...
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Fair comment
 
Random question but did anyone get a programme tonight? Do Fleetwood even do them? My lad likes to save them with his ticket stub but couldn’t see anyone selling them?
 
Very frustrating season so far. We should be top two with this squad. Playing 532 or 352 with CJ and Dale as wing backs isn’t working. We are far too easy to play against out wide. A wing back should first and foremost be able to defend. We have converted wingers who cannot.
 
Hazi said:
The doom and gloom, the blame game. Great game of football a proper derby, they excelled themselves and scored some good goals, we showed in glimpses how good we can be, Dembele is a special talent the likes that come around once in a lifetime, once he is fully match fit and the team clicks properly we will storm the league, 2/3 of the season to go yet. UTMP 🍊
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I applaud your enthusiasm, but what good is a special talent when he's sat warming the bench and only sent on when we're already losing and chasing the game?

We could be in an automatic slot if only we had a manager who knew how to pick a winning team
 
Oh to have had Dobbie and Thompson or even Gary Bowyer setting up the team for tonight's game . I mean it was a fantastic , mad mental game for the neutral but set up right and fired up from the start , we'd have won that one
 
Albert Ross said:
Hate is a very strong word which I don’t think should be used in this context. Dislike, yes disagree, yes stubborn yes, sometimes to the point of stupidity. Just not hate please.
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Reading the comments posted on here it looks like an irrational dislike at the very least.
When we go two down, to what were really individual errors, it's all down to Critchley
When we fight back to go 2-3 in front. it's despite Critchley
When Critchley doesn't play Dembele he is a fool, when he brings Dembele on it's too little, too late (it actually wasn't).
When we don't win it's points dropped, when we do win it's 'any half decent manager would beat that lot'
We do not have a right to beat anybody - we have improved as the season has gone on, we are a far better team now than in September for instance (Lincoln away). A key player, Norburn, is injured, and we lack depth in midfield.
Dembele is given a free role, it's a risk to play him from the start but maybe we will in future.

We go forward. Critch is not going anywhere, it's a long term project, and the sheer negativity and criticism of our own players is frankly shameful. I have watched the club for a long time and there have been far, far worse teams and managers than this one. We have a good owner and a decent manager (remember last season), the supporters need to do their job and get behind them.
 
tangysider said:
The goal was not Connolly's fault, the message from the bench must have been hold on to our lead, subs told us that but suspect the direction came from the dugout.
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The point I was trying to make was we were all over them like a rash , we put another defender on who can’t defend and then concede
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Reading the comments posted on here it looks like an irrational dislike at the very least.
When we go two down, to what were really individual errors, it's all down to Critchley
When we fight back to go 2-3 in front. it's despite Critchley
When Critchley doesn't play Dembele he is a fool, when he brings Dembele on it's too little, too late (it actually wasn't).
When we don't win it's points dropped, when we do win it's 'any half decent manager would beat that lot'
We do not have a right to beat anybody - we have improved as the season has gone on, we are a far better team now than in September for instance (Lincoln away). A key player, Norburn, is injured, and we lack depth in midfield.
Dembele is given a free role, it's a risk to play him from the start but maybe we will in future.

We go forward. Critch is not going anywhere, it's a long term project, and the sheer negativity and criticism of our own players is frankly shameful. I have watched the club for a long time and there have been far, far worse teams and managers than this one. We have a good owner and a decent manager (remember last season), the supporters need to do their job and get behind them.
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I agree with the majority of that and irrational dislike I think is more accurate, I don’t think anyone actively hates him. You’re probably right, he isn’t going anywhere soon, since the man at the top appears to think he’s the best thing since sliced bread. I do however defend anyone’s right to criticism, justified or not. I like you will support the team through thick and thin as I always have. I personally don’t like Critchley, possibly unjustifiably as I don’t know him and have never met him. I don’t launch tirades against him every two minutes, I just don’t like his constant tinkering, unfathomable selections nor most of the time his style of play. That doesn’t mean I don’t want the best for the club, I do. If we were to achieve promotion this season I would be delighted, as would any right thinking supporter.
 
no9 said:
There were a few shouts on the terraces that were poor last night, maybe one too many beers 🤷‍♂️
Unfortunately some fans lose their heads and just like the players the fans need to show a bit more composure.
In the main though we have great support.
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I'm watching online and following the match thread on here, glad to hear that the fans at the ground are generally backing the team.
That was a great game to watch last night, we do have some defensive problems at the moment, with better defending we would have won comfortably. Clear penalty denied as well.
 
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ElBurroSinNombre said:
Reading the comments posted on here it looks like an irrational dislike at the very least.
When we go two down, to what were really individual errors, it's all down to Critchley
When we fight back to go 2-3 in front. it's despite Critchley
When Critchley doesn't play Dembele he is a fool, when he brings Dembele on it's too little, too late (it actually wasn't).
When we don't win it's points dropped, when we do win it's 'any half decent manager would beat that lot'
We do not have a right to beat anybody - we have improved as the season has gone on, we are a far better team now than in September for instance (Lincoln away). A key player, Norburn, is injured, and we lack depth in midfield.
Dembele is given a free role, it's a risk to play him from the start but maybe we will in future.

We go forward. Critch is not going anywhere, it's a long term project, and the sheer negativity and criticism of our own players is frankly shameful. I have watched the club for a long time and there have been far, far worse teams and managers than this one. We have a good owner and a decent manager (remember last season), the supporters need to do their job and get behind them.
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I agree with most of that, there were individual errors, the second cod goal was a complete disaster, no one covered themselves in glory there.
The frustrating thing with Critchley is that he sticks with certain things no matter what, he does the same thing time after time and expects a different outcome, is he just stubborn or does he really not know his best 11?
 
Yarmouth Seasider said:
I agree with most of that, there were individual errors, the second cod goal was a complete disaster, no one covered themselves in glory there.
The frustrating thing with Critchley is that he sticks with certain things no matter what, he does the same thing time after time and expects a different outcome, is he just stubborn or does he really not know his best 11?
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Can you give some examples of the things that he has stuck with time after time?
 
I feel without Norburn we are very weak in the centre of midfield , although Kenny is playing really well. We only play 3 at the back, our wing backs are actually wingers, so we only played 4 defensive minded players in the whole team (back 3 & Kenny). I thought OB again didn’t play well . Dembele is brilliant but I did notice in 87th minute he was stretching as if he had cramp, so maybe Critch is right , in that he can’t play 90 minutes, so I guess is it better to start him rather than when we go behind .
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Can you give some examples of the things that he has stuck with time after time?
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Well, he sticks with his rigid 3-5-2 when there is a chance to try something different.
Oakley-Boothe who came in from not even being in the squad to starting, presumably for Norburn, doesn't seem to be working.
Kouassi who I thought started well but has struggled lately.
He always goes for caution, when sometimes I might be worth letting the opposition worry about us.

I know it's all about opinions, I don't think he's a bad coach at all, he just seems to get stuck in a rut and can't or refuses to see a way out.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Reading the comments posted on here it looks like an irrational dislike at the very least.
When we go two down, to what were really individual errors, it's all down to Critchley
When we fight back to go 2-3 in front. it's despite Critchley
When Critchley doesn't play Dembele he is a fool, when he brings Dembele on it's too little, too late (it actually wasn't).
When we don't win it's points dropped, when we do win it's 'any half decent manager would beat that lot'
We do not have a right to beat anybody - we have improved as the season has gone on, we are a far better team now than in September for instance (Lincoln away). A key player, Norburn, is injured, and we lack depth in midfield.
Dembele is given a free role, it's a risk to play him from the start but maybe we will in future.

We go forward. Critch is not going anywhere, it's a long term project, and the sheer negativity and criticism of our own players is frankly shameful. I have watched the club for a long time and there have been far, far worse teams and managers than this one. We have a good owner and a decent manager (remember last season), the supporters need to do their job and get behind them.
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I agree with your analysis. One point of my own that I think is worthy of consideration, however, is this. Critchley talks about the advantages of keeping hold of the ball: without it the opposition can't hurt you; with the ball we can dictate the pace of the game. Unfortunately, these 'advantages' rarely play out and, more often than not, possession results in us playing deeper and allows the opposition to dictate. The result is that our defending has become our Achilles heel. A back four that includes wing backs (ie. defenders who can also range forward with pace) is, for me, a much stronger unit. Combine it with two wingers, (Dale and Hamilton), and we have strength at the back that is not compromised when we move forwards using the wings.
 
Yarmouth Seasider said:
Well, he sticks with his rigid 3-5-2 when there is a chance to try something different.
Oakley-Boothe who came in from not even being in the squad to starting, presumably for Norburn, doesn't seem to be working.
Kouassi who I thought started well but has struggled lately.
He always goes for caution, when sometimes I might be worth letting the opposition worry about us.

I know it's all about opinions, I don't think he's a bad coach at all, he just seems to get stuck in a rut and can't or refuses to see a way out.
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The system has worked for us though and there are obvious signs of progress being made?

Oakley-Boothe has played 2 and a half games(in fact not even that)... he played OK at Oxford, not great on Saturday and was hooked at half time last night. (Norburn is injured)...

Kouassi - Young lad and has played fantastically well in some games and not so well in others, Critchley has been alternating him in and out of the side (what do you recommend we do? Stop playing him at all)

Was last night cautious? We started with 6 attack minded players
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The system has worked for us though and there are obvious signs of progress being made?

Oakley-Boothe has played 2 and a half games(in fact not even that)... he played OK at Oxford, not great on Saturday and was hooked at half time last night. (Norburn is injured)...

Kouassi - Young lad and has played fantastically well in some games and not so well in others, Critchley has been alternating him in and out of the side (what do you recommend we do? Stop playing him at all)

Was last night cautious? We started with 6 attack minded players
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Has it worked for us though? Sometimes yes, sometime no, won 6, drawn 6 lost 4, suggests it's patchy at best.

Oakley-Boothe was poor on Saturday and if we are looking for a replacement DM, what about Connolly instead?

Kouassi, who I think will be an asset, he looked great against Reading and yes, he's a young lad, of course we should play him but he cfould have done with a rest last night.

Yes, I thought it was cautious to an extent, risking Dembele might have made it look otherwise.

Like I said, all about opinions, I have mine, you have yours, doesn't necessarily make either of us right or wrong 😉
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The system has worked for us though and there are obvious signs of progress being made?

Oakley-Boothe has played 2 and a half games(in fact not even that)... he played OK at Oxford, not great on Saturday and was hooked at half time last night. (Norburn is injured)...

Kouassi - Young lad and has played fantastically well in some games and not so well in others, Critchley has been alternating him in and out of the side (what do you recommend we do? Stop playing him at all)

Was last night cautious? We started with 6 attack minded players
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Yes
 
Considering the squad we have Critch’s team selections are worrying to me.
Got to start Dembele at this level,even if it’s 70 min.it’s ridiculous.
 
Albert Ross said:
I agree with the majority of that and irrational dislike I think is more accurate, I don’t think anyone actively hates him. You’re probably right, he isn’t going anywhere soon, since the man at the top appears to think he’s the best thing since sliced bread. I do however defend anyone’s right to criticism, justified or not. I like you will support the team through thick and thin as I always have. I personally don’t like Critchley, possibly unjustifiably as I don’t know him and have never met him. I don’t launch tirades against him every two minutes, I just don’t like his constant tinkering, unfathomable selections nor most of the time his style of play. That doesn’t mean I don’t want the best for the club, I do. If we were to achieve promotion this season I would be delighted, as would any right thinking supporter.
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this 👍
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The system has worked for us though and there are obvious signs of progress being made?

Oakley-Boothe has played 2 and a half games(in fact not even that)... he played OK at Oxford, not great on Saturday and was hooked at half time last night. (Norburn is injured)...

Kouassi - Young lad and has played fantastically well in some games and not so well in others, Critchley has been alternating him in and out of the side (what do you recommend we do? Stop playing him at all)

Was last night cautious? We started with 6 attack minded players
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We only had 30 shots wed night, when Critchley let’s the shackles off it will be 90 minutes of shots non stop. 😉
 
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