Fuel shortages in China

Not just in China India is also on the cusp of running out of power. The USA are short of bottled water, Toys for Christmas and Toilet Paper and so on.

Meanwhile, France has detained two British Fishing boats and is now threatening to cut power to Jersey, add extra checks on goods vehicles to and from GB, and more measures due to the fishing dispute. You couldn't make it up.
 
Curryman said:
Not just in China India is also on the cusp of running out of power. The USA are short of bottled water, Toys for Christmas and Toilet Paper and so on.

Meanwhile, France has detained two British Fishing boats and is now threatening to cut power to Jersey, add extra checks on goods vehicles to and from GB, and more measures due to the fishing dispute. You couldn't make it up.
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They really are a sad bunch those Frogs allies my arse. 🤬
 
Righto so brexit isn't having an impact on supply chains and delays....really? Of course not it's due to everything else innit.
I know some of you have a pathological hatred of the French aka "surrender monkeys" but they detained boats that were fishing where they shouldn't be without the correct licences, I know we hold all the cards and secured the easiest deal in history but aren't they within their rights?
 
I'm not getting this shortage thing, I haven't gone without a thing yet, even in the media driven madness of the fuel crisis I still managed to get to Hull away and not miss a days work.
 
Shandypants said:
Righto so brexit isn't having an impact on supply chains and delays....really? Of course not it's due to everything else innit.
I know some of you have a pathological hatred of the French aka "surrender monkeys" but they detained boats that were fishing where they shouldn't be without the correct licences, I know we hold all the cards and secured the easiest deal in history but aren't they within their rights?
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What about the Frogs threatening to cut power to Jersey over the fishing dispute are they within their rights?
 
Shandypants said:
Righto so brexit isn't having an impact on supply chains and delays....really? Of course not it's due to everything else innit.
I know some of you have a pathological hatred of the French aka "surrender monkeys" but they detained boats that were fishing where they shouldn't be without the correct licences, I know we hold all the cards and secured the easiest deal in history but aren't they within their rights?
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I've not seen a brexit supporter claim brexit isn't a factor in things, as it will be sometimes as things get ironed our over the next few years.

But there's other bigger factors at play, the pandemic meant some supply chains stopped for a long time, or slowed, lack of training for hgv drivers etc.

You cant judge brexit fairly because of whats happened.

The pandemic will have had the biggest effect on things.
 
JJpool said:
I've not seen a brexit supporter claim brexit isn't a factor in things, as it will be sometimes as things get ironed our over the next few years.

But there's other bigger factors at play, the pandemic meant some supply chains stopped for a long time, or slowed, lack of training for hgv drivers etc.

You cant judge brexit fairly because of whats happened.

The pandemic will have had the biggest effect on things.
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That little problem will be brushed under the carpet with some I'm afraid.
 
Scaramanga said:
That little problem will be brushed under the carpet with some I'm afraid.
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I don't get why people are still so quick to blame brexit for everything unless they have an agenda.

I'm happy to judge it fairly and if it's a complete disaster I'll happily say so.

The fact is, even with the pandemic issues thrown in it's not been a complete disaster like some claimed pre vote.

A lot of the issues we've had wouldn't be anywhere near as bad without a global pandemic, although undoubtedly there have been some issues still.

Take away the pandemic, which puts real issues into perspective and the much smaller issues we'd have had wouldn't have been near all the scare stories we got at the time of the vote.
 
JJpool said:
I don't get why people are still so quick to blame brexit for everything unless they have an agenda.

I'm happy to judge it fairly and if it's a complete disaster I'll happily say so.

The fact is, even with the pandemic issues thrown in it's not been a complete disaster like some claimed pre vote.

A lot of the issues we've had wouldn't be anywhere near as bad without a global pandemic, although undoubtedly there have been some issues still.

Take away the pandemic, which puts real issues into perspective and the much smaller issues we'd have had wouldn't have been near all the scare stories we got at the time of the vote.
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Because it’s the easy thing to do blaming everything that’s wrong with the world today on Brexit.
 
Newholland said:
Not the French people, they’re grand folk, Brexit pissed all over Macrons chips!! Think he might be a secret PNE fan the way he’s lobbed his toys out the pram🤣
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I agree about the French people, when I've ever been in their country I've always found them warm and welcoming, even the much maligned Parisiennes.

However I probably have as much contempt for Macron as I do Johnson, I think neither leader nor their governments are great ambassadors for their respective countries.

As much I also dislike George Galloway, to use one of his oft used quotes, Johnson and Macron are two cheeks of the same arse.
 
Kurtan said:
www.standard.co.uk

Brexit’s impact on economy worse than pandemic – OBR

www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk

Look away , everything is fine
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Ahh...

Richard Hughes, chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility, said it had assumed that leaving the EU would “reduce our long run GDP by around four per cent”.

How many times are predictions correct. Theres so many moving unpredictable parts its almost impossible to call.

Let's have some real actual analysis of whats happened so far, you can't really as many other factors like the pandemic muddy the analysis.
 
Walthamstow_Seasider said:
I agree about the French people, when I've ever been in their country I've always found them warm and welcoming, even the much maligned Parisiennes.

However I probably have as much contempt for Macron as I do Johnson, I think neither leader nor their governments are great ambassadors for their respective countries.

As much I also dislike George Galloway, to use one of his oft used quotes, Johnson and Macron are two cheeks of the same arse.
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I’m in Paris atm and have been for the last four days. Second trip here in the last 12 months.
The odd rude person but few and far between. Great city with warm, friendly people. Can’t judge them based on what a ** Macron is.
Same way you can’t judge us Brits based on what an oaf Johnson is
 
JJpool said:
Ahh...

Richard Hughes, chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility, said it had assumed that leaving the EU would “reduce our long run GDP by around four per cent”.

How many times are predictions correct. Theres so many moving unpredictable parts its almost impossible to call.

Let's have some real actual analysis of whats happened so far, you can't really as many other factors like the pandemic muddy the analysis.
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The same OBR that Rishi Sunak has just based his entire budget on .
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
I’m in Paris atm and have been for the last four days. Second trip here in the last 12 months.
The odd rude person but few and far between. Great city with warm, friendly people. Can’t judge them based on what a ** Macron is.
Same way you can’t judge us Brits based on what an oaf Johnson is
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The generalistic labelling of a whole nation by Daily Mail reading little Englanders is no surprise on here.

There are a lot of posters that post on the politics side that simply haven't the intelligence to.
 
JJpool said:
I don't get why people are still so quick to blame brexit for everything unless they have an agenda.

I'm happy to judge it fairly and if it's a complete disaster I'll happily say so.

The fact is, even with the pandemic issues thrown in it's not been a complete disaster like some claimed pre vote.

A lot of the issues we've had wouldn't be anywhere near as bad without a global pandemic, although undoubtedly there have been some issues still.

Take away the pandemic, which puts real issues into perspective and the much smaller issues we'd have had wouldn't have been near all the scare stories we got at the time of the vote.
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Well you have had plenty of opportunities but you still haven’t said so because we all know its a raging success don’t we!
 
The whole world is currently suffering from increased costs in the power sector. Those who are exposed to imported natural gas, oil or coal are suffering from the biggest cost increases. That includes China and most of Europe (whether you're in the EU or not). There's no shortage of 'fuel' in relation to stuff you put in your car or van.
 
JJpool said:
I've not seen a brexit supporter claim brexit isn't a factor in things, as it will be sometimes as things get ironed our over the next few years.

But there's other bigger factors at play, the pandemic meant some supply chains stopped for a long time, or slowed, lack of training for hgv drivers etc.

You cant judge brexit fairly because of whats happened.

The pandemic will have had the biggest effect on things.
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You need to read this board more. Every Brexiteer has stridently denied any shortage of anything, whether goods, labour or services is a consequence of Brexit, or indeed, that there are any shortages at all.
 
Wizaard said:
You need to read this board more. Every Brexiteer has stridently denied any shortage of anything, whether goods, labour or services is a consequence of Brexit, or indeed, that there are any shortages at all.
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OK tell us why other countries are allegedly suffering shortages, it can't all be Brexit. We have empty shelves in the supermarkets in the area I live but they are filled the next day and another shelf is empty, I'm very cynical about all these claims, to be honest, I'm trying to guess where the next shortage will be.
 
EagleDay said:
OK tell us why other countries are allegedly suffering shortages, it can't all be Brexit. We have empty shelves in the supermarkets in the area I live
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It's not all Brexit agreed, but on this thread are people saying there are no shortages at all, everything is hunky dory, and Brexit is marvellous.

It's wilful ignorance. It's playing a part, I'd say a major part.
 
Kurtan said:
The same OBR that Rishi Sunak has just based his entire budget on .
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You only have to look at most past predictions to see they're hardly ever accurate. I guess we'll see.

Bottle said:
Well you have had plenty of opportunities but you still haven’t said so because we all know its a raging success don’t we!
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What opportunities? we've had some negative stuff, some positive, some blamed on brexit then other areas of the world have similar issues so can't be all brexit like some claim.

Wizaard said:
You need to read this board more. Every Brexiteer has stridently denied any shortage of anything, whether goods, labour or services is a consequence of Brexit, or indeed, that there are any shortages at all.
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But the truth is it's hard to pin down why x shortage has occurred when we've had so much disruption with covid, people isolating creating staff shortages etc.

We also have loads of hospitality jobs out there now, when you have a large amount of jobs but less people to fill them wages tend to go up.

There have been positive stories but real positives will come once the country fully adapts to the changes.

Covid has slowed this down as obviously everything has been about that.

At least being out of the eu we did things our own way with the vaccine, maybe we could have anyway, but shows that when you only have to cater for your own countries needs, it can be beneficial.

People were all over the petrol crisis blaming brexit but its kind of funny that it was all resolved with the same number of drivers as we had before it.

Was it a manufacturered crisis to use the existing stock with the change in petrol? Or just an example of how media can whip up a crisis?
 
JJpool said:
You only have to look at most past predictions to see they're hardly ever accurate. I guess we'll see.



What opportunities? we've had some negative stuff, some positive, some blamed on brexit then other areas of the world have similar issues so can't be all brexit like some claim.


But the truth is it's hard to pin down why x shortage has occurred when we've had so much disruption with covid, people isolating creating staff shortages etc.

We also have loads of hospitality jobs out there now, when you have a large amount of jobs but less people to fill them wages tend to go up.

There have been positive stories but real positives will come once the country fully adapts to the changes.

Covid has slowed this down as obviously everything has been about that.

At least being out of the eu we did things our own way with the vaccine, maybe we could have anyway, but shows that when you only have to cater for your own countries needs, it can be beneficial.

People were all over the petrol crisis blaming brexit but its kind of funny that it was all resolved with the same number of drivers as we had before it.

Was it a manufacturered crisis to use the existing stock with the change in petrol? Or just an example of how media can whip up a crisis?
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Media.
 
20togo said:
so stop posting on there then!
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I'll admit. I have a law degree and I'm certainly not up to arguing with people that are genuinely into politics and have studied it. It makes you look stupid when you haven't got a real knowledge of political subjects. So if I'm not upto it - you certainly aren't.
 
Wizaard said:
You need to read this board more. Every Brexiteer has stridently denied any shortage of anything, whether goods, labour or services is a consequence of Brexit, or indeed, that there are any shortages at all.
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Now I'am not saying for one minute there haven’t been any shortages up and down the country but I can honestly say hand on heart apart from the obvious one being fuel I’ve not been to a shop/supermarket that’s had a shortage of anything I’ve been out shopping for.
 
Macseasider said:
I'll admit. I have a law degree and I'm certainly not up to arguing with people that are genuinely into politics and have studied it. It makes you look stupid when you haven't got a real knowledge of political subjects. So if I'm not upto it - you certainly aren't.
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you think you're smart but you're not. I've no problem admitting my knowledge and interest in politics is sadly/badly lacking. That's my own choice though. That's why I don't often actually make a political comment. But this politics forum is pretty much all about the majority looney left airing their views and abuse at people who challenge them. Yet you failed to see that when making your comment regarding ganging up and bullying of posters. Why is that do you think?
 
20togo said:
you think you're smart but you're not. I've no problem admitting my knowledge and interest in politics is sadly/badly lacking. That's my own choice though. That's why I don't often actually make a political comment. But this politics forum is pretty much all about the majority looney left airing their views and abuse at people who challenge them. Yet you failed to see that when making your comment regarding ganging up and bullying of posters. Why is that do you think?
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You don't make a political comment?

Possibly the most jaw dropping comment I've ever seen on this Board and that's a wide spectrum.
 
Wizaard said:
You don't make a political comment?

Possibly the most jaw dropping comment I've ever seen on this Board and that's a wide spectrum.
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You incapable of reading properly Wiz or do you deliberately misquote me? I used the words "dont often". I don't come on here starting political threads and saying what is right and what is wrong in this great country of ours. I simply challenge the obvious suspects who love nothing more than ridiculing everything about this country. And whereas you are not top of the list you're pretty high up on it.
 
20togo said:
You incapable of reading properly Wiz or do you deliberately misquote me? I used the words "dont often". I don't come on here starting political threads and saying what is right and what is wrong in this great country of ours. I simply challenge the obvious suspects who love nothing more than ridiculing everything about this country. And whereas you are not top of the list you're pretty high up on it.
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Again, don't often????
 
Macseasider said:
He's never off here leading the charge with his pitch fork 🤣
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I know you are a dick Mac but a not very bright one. Like I keep saying, sure I may post on here a bit but I don't actually offer a lot of political opinions. I simply challenge those on here who simply are relentlessly negative about the country and a positive word never comes out of their mouths.
 
20togo said:
I know you are a dick Mac but a not very bright one. Like I keep saying, sure I may post on here a bit but I don't actually offer a lot of political opinions. I simply challenge those on here who simply are relentlessly negative about the country and a positive word never comes out of their mouths.
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You don't offer any opinion. You simply weigh in to anyone that holds differing views to your own with the same old narrative.

More personal insults for me too. How low brow.
 
Macseasider said:
You don't offer any opinion. You simply weigh in to anyone that holds differing views to your own.
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well done, you're getting there. I challenge anyone who is relentlessly negative about this country and has nothing positive to say.
 
Macseasider said:
You don't offer any opinion. You simply weigh in to anyone that holds differing views to your own with the same old narrative.

More personal insults for me too. How low brow.
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Of course your comment about a "pitchfork" wasn't meant to be an insult eh!
 
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