Happy ‘Freedom’ Day!

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Adams Kebab

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Granted, the ‘freedom’ is a bit like day release from HMP Kirkham, but today should be a cause for celebration.

18 months of nonsensical rules and finally it looks like we will now let people assess their own risks, as we always did previously. People can fret and say what they want but you can’t keep living life with restrictions, especially when the vulnerable are vaccinated, huge amounts of the population have antibodies, it’s a 99% recovery rate, people actually have immune systems & the average age of deaths from Covid is 83. Facts don’t care about feelings.

Businesses, workplaces, able to return to normal operating and masks now a choice with the Clipboard crew at various entrances less likely to be on the case. Happy fuckin days.

All we need to do now is to rip-up and restructure the ridiculous isolation of fit and healthy people & we can then kick-on with getting life back to normal and stop the economy being tanked.

Without doubt, there’s a few hurdles and a few mindsets to change.

Covid anxiety syndrome, working from home, self-isolation and a furlough hangover in relation to peoples new found views towards actually going to work, but it’s not sustainable & that’s not how life should be. It’ll take a while but it’s time for normality.

Today is that start.

Forget the fear, we now need a national focus on boosting the immune system instead - proper eating, exercise, enough water and sleep, and of course de-stress and socialisation. For stress, fear and lack of social interaction can be major factors for weakening immunity.

Have a great day.
 
Happy freedom day to you too👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I’ve got day off, going for a pint , can’t wait to walk into the pub without a mask and head straight to the bar🍺🍺 #binthemask🤣🤣
 
Good post.

Unfortunately the nasty COVID has caused me to have a mild cold and legally prevents me from leaving the house until Saturday. But I’ll be giving it beans after that.
 
seasideone said:
That’s not what I said.

There has to be a balance between getting on with life and putting yourself in a stupid position.
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That’s the balance. If we don’t do it now, we never will.

Can we also remind people that a ‘case’ isn’t always someone who’s actually ill, it just means they have tested positive.

Ideally, the ‘cases’ should now be labelled as people who require medical intervention, not those who are sat at home watching Netflix.

Just a thought.
 
pooljimbo said:
Good post.

Unfortunately the nasty COVID has caused me to have a mild cold and legally prevents me from leaving the house until Saturday. But I’ll be giving it beans after that.
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This is actually a key point.

People are going to get this virus, they’ll have a temp, be feeling hot and cold, they might feel low on energy, they might even lose their taste and smell, but then over 99% will then be absolutely fine after a week, because guess what?!

Humans get ill, we always have and always will.
It’s nature.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Granted, the ‘freedom’ is a bit like day release from HMP Kirkham, but today should be a cause for celebration.

18 months of nonsensical rules and finally it looks like we will now let people assess their own risks, as we always did previously. People can fret and say what they want but you can’t keep living life with restrictions, especially when the vulnerable are vaccinated, huge amounts of the population have antibodies, it’s a 99% recovery rate, people actually have immune systems & the average age of deaths from Covid is 83. Facts don’t care about feelings.

Businesses, workplaces, able to return to normal operating and masks now a choice with the Clipboard crew at various entrances less likely to be on the case. Happy fuckin days.

All we need to do now is to rip-up and restructure the ridiculous isolation of fit and healthy people & we can then kick-on with getting life back to normal and stop the economy being tanked.

Without doubt, there’s a few hurdles and a few mindsets to change.

Covid anxiety syndrome, working from home, self-isolation and a furlough hangover in relation to peoples new found views towards actually going to work, but it’s not sustainable & that’s not how life should be. It’ll take a while but it’s time for normality.

Today is that start.

Forget the fear, we now need a national focus on boosting the immune system instead - proper eating, exercise, enough water and sleep, and of course de-stress and socialisation. For stress, fear and lack of social interaction can be major factors for weakening immunity.

Have a great day.
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Have a good one AK. We've earned this... 👍🏿
 
Thegoalmachine said:
Happy freedom day to you too👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I’ve got day off, going for a pint , can’t wait to walk into the pub without a mask and head straight to the bar🍺🍺 #binthemask🤣🤣
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I find it quite remarkable that it took till basically July 2020 for the World (discount China) to start wearing masks to stop the passing of viruses. Many genuinely believe masks have cured the flu. Incredible that with all the scientists and research in the world, this was only established last year 😂
 
Adams Kebab said:
This is actually a key point.

People are going to get this virus, they’ll have a temp, be feeling hot and cold, they might feel low on energy, they might even lose their taste and smell, but then over 99% will then be absolutely fine after a week, because guess what?!

Humans get ill, we always have and always will.
It’s nature.
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I agree, but the worry is that rocketing cases means there’s the possibility of dangerous variations appearing, and that could lead to further restrictions. For me it’s just sensible to keep wearing a mask in crowded indoor places for the time being.
 
pooljimbo said:
Good post.

Unfortunately the nasty COVID has caused me to have a mild cold and legally prevents me from leaving the house until Saturday. But I’ll be giving it beans after that.
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Yep there lies the point, up until 18 months ago we all made our own judgement on whether we felt well enough to go out or to go to work when feeling a bit under the weather. That has now gone, even if you feel on top of the world you’ve got to stay in. Remember the term man flu, when we were told to get a grip and get on with things!!! It’s now gone full circle ☹️
 
Matesrates said:
I agree, but the worry is that rocketing cases means there’s the possibility of dangerous variations appearing, and that could lead to further restrictions. For me it’s just sensible to keep wearing a mask in crowded indoor places for the time being.
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Very true Matesrates re mutating variants but the UK is the world leader in spotting these quickly problem is we have a shite border policy in place, but should it be a legal requirement to wear masks, as opposed to it being left to the general public? At some point every country will have to make a similar decision to England about opening up, and as l said on another thread if they don’t do it soon it will be next year and therefore, they will be 12 months behind England. There is no doubt that this is a huge gamble by Boris and things could get very ugly but as AK has said when is the right time and although infection rates are climbing hospitalisations and deaths are low.
 
Thegoalmachine said:
Yep there lies the point, up until 18 months ago we all made our own judgement on whether we felt well enough to go out or to go to work when feeling a bit under the weather. That has now gone, even if you feel on top of the world you’ve got to stay in. Remember the term man flu, when we were told to get a grip and get on with things!!! It’s now gone full circle ☹️
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Spot on. Manflu goosed people for a few days. It’s like a hangover, every time you feel rough it’s the worst you’ve ever felt, but the reality is you’ve felt worst before, it’s just that it’s the latest feeling.

We’ve always caught viruses and felt grim, it’s just that now it’s hyped up beyond belief.

It can’t carry on this thinking, it’s actually not healthy.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
Of course there will be lots of new cases...thats the point this is the race to herd immunity...I honestly believe the Govt want as many people as possible to get covid before winter though they will never admit to that.
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And if you look at those scenes on the news from night clubs that opened at midnight there may be many new cases, they are young, probably unvaccinated and have a low risk to serious illness but it’s the path to herd immunity and as you say exactly what the gov't strategy is.
 
You’d have thought that in some Asian and African countries where people are living on top of each other in their millions that more variants would have emerged already if it was going to happen.
Yes, Uk is an urban society but nowhere near the scale of those cities in Africa, Asia and even countries like Mexico snd Argentina for example. So why only 3 variants of note 18 months later?

I can see us locking down yet again but today is the best day to test the theory either way. One outcome is back to where we were so no change really, the other outcome is we find we don’t need restrictions and life improves dramatically.
So win or draw….. I’ll take that
 
Got the day off going into Birmingham on the train and will probably wear a mask 😷 but only then. I will head for Brindley Place and have something eat overlooking the canals
 
Today the government is empowering people to take responsibility for their own actions. We've been nursemaided for 18 months but we have to stop blaming everyone for what we do. Now we have to follow the example set by the Far East, wear masks where appropriate and apply common sense when in contact with other people.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Granted, the ‘freedom’ is a bit like day release from HMP Kirkham, but today should be a cause for celebration.

18 months of nonsensical rules and finally it looks like we will now let people assess their own risks, as we always did previously. People can fret and say what they want but you can’t keep living life with restrictions, especially when the vulnerable are vaccinated, huge amounts of the population have antibodies, it’s a 99% recovery rate, people actually have immune systems & the average age of deaths from Covid is 83. Facts don’t care about feelings.

Businesses, workplaces, able to return to normal operating and masks now a choice with the Clipboard crew at various entrances less likely to be on the case. Happy fuckin days.

All we need to do now is to rip-up and restructure the ridiculous isolation of fit and healthy people & we can then kick-on with getting life back to normal and stop the economy being tanked.

Without doubt, there’s a few hurdles and a few mindsets to change.

Covid anxiety syndrome, working from home, self-isolation and a furlough hangover in relation to peoples new found views towards actually going to work, but it’s not sustainable & that’s not how life should be. It’ll take a while but it’s time for normality.

Today is that start.

Forget the fear, we now need a national focus on boosting the immune system instead - proper eating, exercise, enough water and sleep, and of course de-stress and socialisation. For stress, fear and lack of social interaction can be major factors for weakening immunity.

Have a great day.
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You say some sensible things. Even so, I would caution against champing at the bit at this stage.
 
Currently on a train from Blackpool to Manchester, and walking through the town centre prior to that and popping in a few places it doesn't feel very different.

Masks still mandatory on trains, people in shops still wearing masks. It'll take some time I reckon for people to adjust but with certain companies still insisting on masks and social distancing today isn't the clean cut freedom day we all envisaged at the start of the pandemic
 
Yes it’s clearly not the ‘freedom’ day that was envisaged a few months ago. The Mail reported that BJ was planning on a ‘churchillian’ speech today proclaiming victory over covid but has had to shelve it for obvious reasons.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Granted, the ‘freedom’ is a bit like day release from HMP Kirkham, but today should be a cause for celebration.

18 months of nonsensical rules and finally it looks like we will now let people assess their own risks, as we always did previously.
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You seem to have forgotten the hundreds of nurses, bus drivers and shop workers who died in the first wave when we were slow to put these rules in place to protect them. I doubt their relatives see them as "nonsensical".
 
Tangojoe said:
Today the government is empowering people to take responsibility for their own actions. We've been nursemaided for 18 months but we have to stop blaming everyone for what we do. Now we have to follow the example set by the Far East, wear masks where appropriate and apply common sense when in contact with other people.
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That's us buggered then!
 
So yesterday I needed to put on a mask to go in a supermarket, today i’m advised too put on a mask to go in a supermarket….fuk me if that’s not grounds for a celebration I don’t know what is……🤣🍾
 
Well this morning I’ve been to:

1. The dentist. Absolutely no change there; masks required in the waiting room and restricted seating. And
2. The gym. No mask required but then it never was. You are still expected to wipe down the equipment before and after use, and maintain social distancing. The only change is no booking is required for the general gym and you can stay for more an hour - if you wish to do so.

Now I know other people’s experiences may be different but as far as I can see it’s pretty much as before.
 
seasideone said:
That’s not what I said.

There has to be a balance between getting on with life and putting yourself in a stupid position.
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If you're under 30 years old, what is a stupid postion exactly?

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Yes that is literally zero deaths in the group with overwhelmingly the highest rate of infection in the last week reported, and no more than 2 deaths in any week since early April.

If you're interested 57% of those deaths were in the group 25 - 29, the last death outside of that group was in w/e 11 June (10 - 14 age) and before that one person died in the 20 - 24 group in the w/e 30 April.

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
 
Lost Seasider said:
If you're under 30 years old, what is a stupid postion exactly?

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Yes that is literally zero deaths in the group with overwhelmingly the highest rate of infection in the last week reported, and no more than 2 deaths in any week since early April.

If you're interested 57% of those deaths were in the group 25 - 29, the last death outside of that group was in w/e 11 June (10 - 14 age) and before that one person died in the 20 - 24 group in the w/e 30 April.

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
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They do pass it on you know to parents and grandparents.

Boris bilge - but then again you would do anything your master required.

….and I am a Tory!
 
Intend to ho for a pint tonight with my cousin and out for tea tomorrow at the pub assuming there have not had all their staff pinged
 
Lost Seasider said:
If you're under 30 years old, what is a stupid postion exactly?

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Yes that is literally zero deaths in the group with overwhelmingly the highest rate of infection in the last week reported, and no more than 2 deaths in any week since early April.

If you're interested 57% of those deaths were in the group 25 - 29, the last death outside of that group was in w/e 11 June (10 - 14 age) and before that one person died in the 20 - 24 group in the w/e 30 April.

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
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I think you're missing the entire trouble with pandemics.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
You say some sensible things. Even so, I would caution against champing at the bit at this stage.
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66

I appreciate that different folk will have different opinions on the various issue but Kebab presents a lot of facts that some seem to prefer to ignore.

To be fair to yourself, you did say that Kebab said sensible things and I'm sure there will be others to pour scorn on what he says.

I know that it's not all about fatalities and not all about about youngsters but the average age of a Covid death is 2 years above the average life expectancy and young people without underlying health conditions are more likely to die from drowning than they are from Covid and that's before the vaccination programme kicked in.

I'm not singling you out for criticism 66, I just feel that Kebab makes very good points - actually presents some undeniable FACTS - and too many seem to want to dismiss.

Maybe you said exactly what I did in a different way ?
 
seasideone said:
PM since the war 👍

…and here we go……
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Atlee - better
Churchill - too old
Eden - hostage to fortune
MacMillan - OK, best of the Tories
Douglas-Holme - no, old school Tory
Wilson - definitely. Kept us out of Vietnam
Heath - miners & dockers, 3 day week
Wilson - no. He knew he was at his end
Callaghan - no, Yom Kippur did for him.
Major - sex with the egg lady - no.
Blair - better, easily.
Brown - banking crisis did for him.
Cameron - Worst since the War.
May - couldn't fight Labour and Johnson
Johnson - lying prat.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Atlee - better
Churchill - too old
Eden - hostage to fortune
MacMillan - OK, best of the Tories
Douglas-Holme - no, old school Tory
Wilson - definitely. Kept us out of Vietnam
Heath - miners & dockers, 3 day week
Wilson - no. He knew he was at his end
Callaghan - no, Yom Kippur did for him.
Major - sex with the egg lady - no.
Blair - better, easily.
Brown - banking crisis did for him.
Cameron - Worst since the War.
May - couldn't fight Labour and Johnson
Johnson - lying prat.
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Blair 😂😂😂😂
 
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