If you are blaming Appleton then you are an idiot

Philbfctrois

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Missed transfer targets and selling off our best player on the cheap isn't down to the head coach

Plenty of time to get things right, we are no worse off than this time last season

However the cluster fuck of the transfer window with a lack of options in midfield and attack are currently biting us on the arse

Taxi for Bullshit Ben.........
 
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Bullshit Ben didn't choose to play 5 at the back, Connolly as a wing back and coach the players. We look disorganised, confused and lacking in the basics. Yes, the recruitment was poor but to suggest Appleton shouldn't share the blame is idiotic. He's dull, uninspiring and lacks integrity and his reign can't end soon enough for me.
 
Bullshit Ben didn't choose to play 5 at the back, Connolly as a wing back and coach the players. We look disorganised, confused and lacking in the basics. Yes, the recruitment was poor but to suggest Appleton shouldn't share the blame is idiotic. He's dull, uninspiring and lacks integrity and his reign can't end soon enough for me.
Can you not see that he's only playing a back 3 because we have limited options in midfield?

He wants to play 433 with 2 number 8s but we haven't got the personal
 
Can you not see that he's only playing a back 3 because we have limited options in midfield?

He wants to play 433 with 2 number 8s but we haven't got the personal
No I can't, it's just an excuse. Do we not have a development squad? Did we not loan out players? He's a fraud and needs giving the boot. Lincoln didn't want him, our players don't want him, not even all the board wanted him, yet because 1 man alone did, we are supposed to accept it? Rotherham was a disgrace, Millwall in many ways was worse. Get rid now before he completely undoes all the good work before him.
 
I've defended Appleton in the past but I'm not going to defend playing five at the back. It just invites pressure and leaves us outnumbered in midfield. If we stick with this formation then the only way is down.
3 centre halves isn't his preferred system but a lack of midfield options are forcing his hand
 
Missed transfer targets and selling off our best player on the cheap isn't down to the head coach

Plenty of time to get things right, we are no worse off than this time last season

However the cluster fuck of the transfer window with a lack of options in midfield and attack are currently biting us on the arse

Taxi for Bullshit.......
Good to see you’re back, I’ve just typed an essay without seeing this when you’ve summed it up much simpler.

The recruitment has been a farce.
 
Willing to give Appleton time and I know we are injury hit, but I thought he got it wrong today, personally.

We let a team booed off at half time dominate early in the 2nd half for 10/15 mins while sat back. Could see a goal was coming. I thought if he'd have brought Poveda on for Lavery (who looked knackered) and kept Jerry on, maybe bringing Gabriel on and moving Connolly to midfield we could have made a go of it.
 
Can you not see that he's only playing a back 3 because we have limited options in midfield?

He wants to play 433 with 2 number 8s but we haven't got the personal
The reality is that Blackpool is always likely to be a club with limited resources. Compared to most Championship Clubs, we are always going to be ‘making do’ when it comes to our squad.

So whoever the manager might be (and Critchley was in exactly the same situation) they are going to need to get the maximum out of the squad they have available.

433, 343, 541, 442 …. It’s all bullshit…

As a manager you have two options…

1. You go down the Holloway route and drill your side so well to play the specific system that you choose to play, so that all your squad can do it standing on their heads.

2. You adopt a more pragmatic approach and try to play a system that gets the maximum out of the players that you do have at your disposal.

At the minute, we don’t seem to be doing either and we look disorganised and uncomfortable with the system and every time we are in possession.

We seem to lack a coherent plan and leadership on the field.

We’re not just short in Midfield/Attacking options either… We need a proper centre half with some experience… we’re all at sea defensively.

I’m hoping that it’s just a case of this being a transitional phase and hopefully things will start to click when we settle down and become more familiar with the system(s) that Applegoose wants to play…

Resources are what they are though and I have no doubt in my mind, that Critchley would find a way to win with this squad.
 
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Like I have said on other posts. Appleton and the board are as much to blame as eachother and they need to figure out a way of getting us out of the inevitable downward trajectory that we are on.

Unfortunately there are a lot of games between now and January. I just hope it isn't too late by then.
 
There’s no obvious style and system to me. That's a concern because we don’t have the squad to deal in randoms. You need a plan A that makes life easier for the players. That’s down to the coach.

Recruitment was awful without doubt but I wonder how anyone thinks keeping Bowler was ever an option. The lad wanted to leave. You HAVE to cash in.
 
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There’s no obvious style and system to me. That's a concern because we don’t have the squad to deal in ransoms. You need a plan A that makes life easier for the players. That’s down to the coach.

Recruitment was awful without doubt but I wonder how anyone thinks keeping Bowler was ever an option. The lad wanted to leave. You HAVE to cash in.
If anything, we were lucky to keep Bowler for those first few games.

We cashed in, but what we going to do with it? That’s my concern?
 
There’s no obvious style and system to me. That's a concern because we don’t have the squad to deal in ransoms. You need a plan A that makes life easier for the players. That’s down to the coach.

Recruitment was awful without doubt but I wonder how anyone thinks keeping Bowler was ever an option. The lad wanted to leave. You HAVE to cash in.
Bowler leaving should have resulted in at least 2 players in of ready to go quality. We all knew he was leaving so these players should have been secured even before he left.

5 at the back is the only way he can set up, the idea being the wide 2 play as much in midfield as anything else. They are not WB's as such.

BM is surplus to requirements and maybe one or two others as well. Ged rid.

So they now have 2 weeks to get players in that nobody else really wants and no doubt they'll be some time off playing games at full tilt.

Thank God we do have MA otherwise the loans would be the likes of Dale and Kirk.
 
We sold Bowler (rightly so IMO) but we didn’t have time left in the window to get an Attacking Midfielder & Strike with the money.
Yes we tried to get a few targets in but they didn’t come off.
I know it’s depressing missing-out as we did but it wasn’t for the want of trying.
I still agree on going for “the player” we want as opposed to “a player”.
It’s time for “Unity” at our club at the moment not for “throwing toys out of the pram” and finding someone to blame.
I don’t like criticising the team but have to say we were nothing short of “awful” against Rotherham.
I didn’t see yesterdays game as I was at Trent bridge for cricket, but I have heard we were a “little less awful”.
Anyone can beat anyone in the Championship, we are certainly having a “bad patch” but let’s stay strong and together.
If the board loses faith in Appleton he will be gone before the next window, but NOT after 10 games with 11 points!!
Give everyone a little more time but, if we lose the next five in a row, then I may come back “flying” a different flag” sooner than later.
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We sold Bowler (rightly so IMO) but we didn’t have time left in the window to get an Attacking Midfielder & Strike with the money.
Yes we tried to get a few targets in but they didn’t come off.
I know it’s depressing missing-out as we did but it wasn’t for the want of trying.
I still agree on going for “the player” we want as opposed to “a player”.
It’s time for “Unity” at our club at the moment not for “throwing toys out of the pram” and finding someone to blame.
I don’t like criticising the team but have to say we were nothing short of “awful” against Rotherham.
I didn’t see yesterdays game as I was at Trent bridge for cricket, but I have heard we were a “little less awful”.
Anyone can beat anyone in the Championship, we are certainly having a “bad patch” but let’s stay strong and together.
If the board loses faith in Appleton he will be gone before the next window, but NOT after 10 games with 11 points!!
Give everyone a little more time but, if we lose the next five in a row, then I may come back “flying” a different flag” sooner than later.
UTMP🚌🍊🧡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
Everyone points the finger at Mansford for failing to land targets, but given Appleton likes to see the "whites of peoples eyes", maybe he is also part of the problem? He hasn't been able to get the current squad playing for him, maybe potential new signings don't fancy playing under him either? If the best we can do is a 33yr old League 1 reject, who is crocked as often as some of our other players, it speaks volumes.
 
The recruitment has lacked in the spine of the team, which is most important also lacked experience and physicality.

Mentioned in my spine of the team post on deadline day, we made no effort to replace Keogh. Well ok we got Williams, but from his days at Swansea we could have seen he wasn't that great. We've failed to see that losing experience would be an issue, maybe they didn't but they haven't replaced it.

We've been unlucky with the injuries to Patino and Fiorini, but we haven't secured a strong midfielder, leader, experienced players there. We did get Wright who could be decent, but isn't a strong player. But that's OK if we want to play a passing game but you do still need stronger players. Having got those injuries and selling Bowler, which was OK for the cash, we had to bring a few in with the cash, we got Wright for 750k maybe, were getting 4m for Bowler and got aprox 2m for Critchley. We had to have had signings lined up and ready to go.

Up front which is absolutely key also, we failed to bring anyone in at all, even on loan. We are very weak up top, Jerry isn't a prolific championship striker, Madine score only a few, Lavery is only useful for his energy and Beesley is out injured.

So very disappointing not to significantly strengthen the spine of the team when we had money in and our own budget, plus we knew we'd sell Bowler and only managed to get Wright, whilst he looks decent, that alone isn't enough.

As for the manager he didn't have to play that formation again, we could have gone with Carey, Patino and Dougall/Connolly in midfield. It may not be optimal without securing better players in summer but he could have done it as 5 at the back we look disjointed, there's no indication from the previous games that this new to us system was the way to go.

We've looked very poor in that formation bar a spell in the 1st half yesterday.

Would have been better with 442 if we don't have the personal maybe.

All in all blame all round, some key areas neglected in summer and failed to replace experience and reinvest.

Appleton has had a mixed start, with his last games not being optimally set up, however the quality or lack of it may have seen us still concede many of the goals as its about the players too. Ultimately good players whether told to play whatever system would be able to pass, move and create chances. Weve seen the basics break down far too often.

But the pressing seem to have taken a hit too, its there sometimes but now what it once was and at time we've sat back and tried to defend. The pressing is absolutely key to our success and allowed us to bridge a quality gap in this division.

We have to get it back and 5 at the back doesn't set us up to best utilise it.
 
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The reality is that Blackpool is always likely to be a club with limited resources. Compared to most Championship Clubs, we are always going to be ‘making do’ when it comes to our squad.

So whoever the manager might be (and Critchley was in exactly the same situation) they are going to need to get the maximum out of the squad they have available.

433, 343, 541, 442 …. It’s all bullshit…

As a manager you have two options…

1. You go down the Holloway route and drill your side so well to play the specific system that you choose to play, so that all your squad can do it standing on their heads.

2. You adopt a more pragmatic approach and try to play a system that gets the maximum out of the players that you do have at your disposal.

At the minute, we don’t seem to be doing either and we look disorganised and uncomfortable with the system and every time we are in possession.

We seem to lack a coherent plan and leadership on the field.

We’re not just short in Midfield/Attacking options either… We need a proper centre half with some experience… we’re all at sea defensively.

I’m hoping that it’s just a case of this being a transitional phase and hopefully things will start to click when we settle down and become more familiar with the system(s) that Applegoose wants to play…

Resources are what they are though and I have no doubt in my mind, that Critchley would find a way to win with this squad.
I'd agree with a lot of that in principle, but I don't think we are that badly resourced in comparison with most Championship clubs. Those clubs that have been in the PL recently are operating on a different financial level, but they can only do that for two years safely or three if they really want to put the club at risk (if they don't get back up - and a below par coach and unmotivated players will see that happen or not happen depending on how you look at it). I remember posting something pre-season where I did a comparison to the other clubs in this division, and I think we are middling. whether we are utilising our resources well might be another question and i have my opinions on that.

with regard to centre halves, Marv last year was considered PL quality, he needed to work on his distribution but it wasn't any worse than the majority of CH's in this division and was better than most. He was garnering so much praise that we as supporters were genuinely concerned that he might get poached. he seems to have had all of his confidence just drained away. He's not making loads of mistakes, but defences at every level do make errors, but there is obviously something that has turned a well drilled defence into one that just all over the place. We let Keogh go who i didnt think was ever that good as a player - championship quality without doubt - but i personally think we were better when he didn't play - notwithstanding a few outstanding backs to the wall performances last year (my personal opinion others will disagree). he has I think been a big loss to the dressing room, he was a big personality and bought a certain something to the spirit of the squad. I've said this before that the unbridled joy he seemed to have in playing and being involved with football and the club was infectious to those around him.

And this is where i get to Appleton - he doesn't look happy - he seems troubled and disconnected, and recently somewhat ambivalent. and I think that is reflected in the way we are playing, passive, indifferent, with a lack of real purpose, and i don't think it helps that we are completely disorganised from front to back, and that has to be a training ground thing.

Although we are no worse off this season than last, last season we had some of the fancied teams early on this year we haven't (nobody really thinks QPR or Stoke are going to do anything beyond upper level mid table with an occasional flirtation with the play-offs and Huddersfield have somewhat imploded), but, and this is a personal view which others can justifiably argue with, I think the points we have picked this year have been despite Appleton, players finding some internal fight.

this squad is easily a mid championship squad, and good coaching and organisation and motivation should be able to push us beyond, and i will leave that hanging there because i have no idea what goes on in training, but . . . . . .

id also say that i don't think that the Holloway team was drilled in lets say the way the Critchley drilled players in routines bringing the ball out of defence (and created an easy tactical decision for opposing managers occasionally) but Holloway exploited the talents and capabilities of the players he had, and let them play with a certain exuberance. We were always a bit leaky at the back, but we couldn't half score goals.

When Appleton was appointed i was underwhelmed but I came round to think that because he wasn't the typical FA graduate of dull possession at all costs football which is often rather ineffective (re: England), that he might be the choice because the club had a long term vision and he would slot in to that and tweak as necessary. but e has literally ripped the heart and soul out of the team and seemingly headed off in a completely new direction that even MA doesn't quite know what it is.
 
He has been flanneled by Ben granted, but likewise part of the flannel. Apples is not going to progress us and I think decent results this season have been more of a mask to the reality. We have a 4 year contract to a jobbing manager who had been ‘let go’ by a league 1 pub team.
 
He has been flanneled by Ben granted, but likewise part of the flannel. Apples is not going to progress us and I think decent results this season have been more of a mask to the reality. We have a 4 year contract to a jobbing manager who had been ‘let go’ by a league 1 pub team.
To take a League 1 pub team to the play off final would therefore be an achievement don't you think ?
 
We sold Bowler (rightly so IMO) but we didn’t have time left in the window to get an Attacking Midfielder & Strike with the money.
Yes we tried to get a few targets in but they didn’t come off.
I know it’s depressing missing-out as we did but it wasn’t for the want of trying.
I still agree on going for “the player” we want as opposed to “a player”.
It’s time for “Unity” at our club at the moment not for “throwing toys out of the pram” and finding someone to blame.
I don’t like criticising the team but have to say we were nothing short of “awful” against Rotherham.
I didn’t see yesterdays game as I was at Trent bridge for cricket, but I have heard we were a “little less awful”.
Anyone can beat anyone in the Championship, we are certainly having a “bad patch” but let’s stay strong and together.
If the board loses faith in Appleton he will be gone before the next window, but NOT after 10 games with 11 points!!
Give everyone a little more time but, if we lose the next five in a row, then I may come back “flying” a different flag” sooner than later.
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Decent post that torycorner

Pretty much agree with all of that
 
Undoubtedly the recruitment has been a disaster but Appleton isnt shining either...lets judge him after another 5 or 6 games when he has had some time to work out how to overcome issues.
 
3 centre halves isn't his preferred system but a lack of midfield options are forcing his hand
Phil: we could have played Carey, Charlie, Kenny and Connolly in midfield yesterday as a better shape than 5 at the back. I get the 5 at the back against Hudders with a lack of midfielders, but yesterday Millwall (worst team we’ve played this season) were there for the taking and we blobbed it!
 
Phil: we could have played Carey, Charlie, Kenny and Connolly in midfield yesterday as a better shape than 5 at the back. I get the 5 at the back against Hudders with a lack of midfielders, but yesterday Millwall (worst team we’ve played this season) were there for the taking and we blobbed it!
Exactly - could've easily been a 442 set up yesterday with that midfield, and JG, ME, JH, & DT. Not convinced by JT & now DT going off the boil. Jerry & Theo up top causing mayhem.
 
Recruitment does seem to have failed somewhat this summer. Failed to get the correct players in and then added to that when players have come on it’s unclear how they fit into the side.

But Appleton is really struggling to get anything out of a group of players minus Bowler that comfortably finished mid table a handful of months ago.

Injuries have not be great granted, but in the last 3/4 games he still had the players available to played a 5–3-2 / 4-4-2 / 4-3-3.

Especially yesterday, after Wednesday nights showing. A solid 4-4-2 of Gabriel Marv Thorniley Thompson(or Husband)

CJ Connolly Pantino Corbeanu

Lavery Yates

Bit of shape, simpler for the players. I personally think he needs to just go back to basics for the next ten games which look bloody tough, get a squad similar to the above out on the pitch get some points on the board and get the heat off his back.
 
Missed transfer targets and selling off our best player on the cheap isn't down to the head coach

Plenty of time to get things right, we are no worse off than this time last season

However the cluster fuck of the transfer window with a lack of options in midfield and attack are currently biting us on the arse

Taxi for Bullshit.......
There's always an agenda with you so after being so anti Critchley and hanging your hat on Appleton very early on you would say that wouldn't you?
The recruitment has been poor I agree but you can't just give the manager a free pass like that. He supposedly came with good contacts in the game so he has to take some sort of responsibility for not getting players in. If he doesn't like the recruitment and can't work with it then he should leave. After all, he did last time.
 
He can only play the players he has available. He could have played 433 yesterday if he had put Carey in the midfield 3 or Connolly, but it doesn't work when Connolly and Dougall play together and I'm not convinced he thinks Carey is good enough. Fiorini is the player who would me in the middle 3 with Patino and Stewart ideally, Connolly isn't a central midfielder and Dougall may do okay if he had Patino and Fiorini in front of him, but for me he is league 1 at best.

So, let's stop using the manager as the excuse because we have needed a commanding experienced central midfielder ever since Sadler bought the club, how can we have failed to support any manager if we haven't been able to provide no one for that role? And in all honesty we need 2, not one. That is not acceptable, We seem to be king down the like of buying young players and hoping they will turn into great players so we can sell them on. Bowler was one success but the rest haven't been. That's the model Sadler & Mansford have touted but it's more a fantasy than reality and since last January we have failed to buy practically anyone and we have lots of loan players instead, again young players from EPL teams and again you take a chance, Patino great, Fiorini & Corbeanu good, Poveda not decided and Williams poor.

Our squad lacks experience, we have Maxwell on the bench, Hubby, Connolly, Madine, Marv, Anderson but that's about it but if we are going to have experience they need to be good enough to be playing week in week out, players like Vaughan, GTF, Charlie, Evatt, DJ, Dobbie, Brett, Southern etc., We are a team full of kids and you can only blame the recruitment team for that and the strategy they have chosen to go down. It is admirable to try and make the club about bringing in young players and making them good adult players but it's so risky and you can't just do it and nothing else.

I don't know what Quitchley or Appleton were promised when they joined but if you ask me neither got it and if there are any changes that need to be made then the recruitment team have to go and Sadler needs to decide how he wants the club to go forward. If any of us had his money and took over the club we would all have our different ideas and maybe Sadler's is not the best.

If it were me I would get someone in like a director of football, a manager with bags of experience to work with Appleton and to help build a team around experience and youth and if Sadler is as wealthy as they say then he needs to be able to let us compete with wages. I don't care if it upsets the players we have, half of them don't deserve the wages they are already on so get rid of the players who aren't good enough and get some players in who are. Trouble is we are going to have to wait until the summer now, the ship has sailed this season.
 
Phil: we could have played Carey, Charlie, Kenny and Connolly in midfield yesterday as a better shape than 5 at the back. I get the 5 at the back against Hudders with a lack of midfielders, but yesterday Millwall (worst team we’ve played this season) were there for the taking and we blobbed it!
My thoughts entirely. We’re missing uncle Richard too as I believe Williams is disrupting the whole back line. Surely Casey would have fitted in better. Husband for me at CB & keep it as close to what seemed to work quite well last season. Not 3 CB’s as they always seem to leave it for someone else & get in each other’s way. I’ll be honest I didn’t want Appleton but I’ll still give him a chance. See where we are at Christmas.
 
So wish we had got Evo plays the football SS wants, Appleton convinced Simon that he will play attacking 433 as it is the only way he knows, is he therefore taking the P I SS playing 532 3 games running. Some of these youngsters have cost a small fortune I believe in wages/fees getting them here, I am sure more experienced players could of been brought in if needed. Been unlucky with injuries so he needs more time but things need to improve before Jan. we stayed up comfortably last year we have added plenty to the squad and let go who
MA wanted to go, the transfer window was poor granted but Apples is certainly not blameless.
 
At the moment we are in a transition phase. It has been Appleton's decision to bring in lots of young inexperienced players into the squad on loan from premier league clubs which is a very risky strategy given that we are also only signing inexperienced young permanent players to develop as well. Hopefully, the team will improve with experience and playing together, but at the moment we are woefully short of both nouse and quality. This may change when Anderson and hopefully Stewart return.
 
For me Bowler is a big miss . He drew defenders onto him thereby creating space for the forwards

Problem is these types of players are hard to replace instantly.

Last one we had was Tom Ince over a decade ago.

The loss of such a creative player without a replacement means the whole system and shape has to change .

There was nothing the board could have done re Bowler . If the board had stood firm big risk unhappy player and loss of money .

We have to be patient and trust Appleton .
 
He can only play the players he has available. He could have played 433 yesterday if he had put Carey in the midfield 3 or Connolly, but it doesn't work when Connolly and Dougall play together and I'm not convinced he thinks Carey is good enough. Fiorini is the player who would me in the middle 3 with Patino and Stewart ideally, Connolly isn't a central midfielder and Dougall may do okay if he had Patino and Fiorini in front of him, but for me he is league 1 at best.

So, let's stop using the manager as the excuse because we have needed a commanding experienced central midfielder ever since Sadler bought the club, how can we have failed to support any manager if we haven't been able to provide no one for that role? And in all honesty we need 2, not one. That is not acceptable, We seem to be king down the like of buying young players and hoping they will turn into great players so we can sell them on. Bowler was one success but the rest haven't been. That's the model Sadler & Mansford have touted but it's more a fantasy than reality and since last January we have failed to buy practically anyone and we have lots of loan players instead, again young players from EPL teams and again you take a chance, Patino great, Fiorini & Corbeanu good, Poveda not decided and Williams poor.

Our squad lacks experience, we have Maxwell on the bench, Hubby, Connolly, Madine, Marv, Anderson but that's about it but if we are going to have experience they need to be good enough to be playing week in week out, players like Vaughan, GTF, Charlie, Evatt, DJ, Dobbie, Brett, Southern etc., We are a team full of kids and you can only blame the recruitment team for that and the strategy they have chosen to go down. It is admirable to try and make the club about bringing in young players and making them good adult players but it's so risky and you can't just do it and nothing else.

I don't know what Quitchley or Appleton were promised when they joined but if you ask me neither got it and if there are any changes that need to be made then the recruitment team have to go and Sadler needs to decide how he wants the club to go forward. If any of us had his money and took over the club we would all have our different ideas and maybe Sadler's is not the best.

If it were me I would get someone in like a director of football, a manager with bags of experience to work with Appleton and to help build a team around experience and youth and if Sadler is as wealthy as they say then he needs to be able to let us compete with wages. I don't care if it upsets the players we have, half of them don't deserve the wages they are already on so get rid of the players who aren't good enough and get some players in who are. Trouble is we are going to have to wait until the summer now, the ship has sailed this season.
Connolly is even less of a right wing back yet that is where he was played yesterday. He's a solid defensive, utility player, ideal for the bench. A midfield 3 with Dougall, Patino and Carey was the right choice yesterday. Not ideal as Carey and Dougall probably playing a division too high but that's the best we've got so play it.
 
Plenty of time to get things right, we are no worse off than this time last season

However the cluster fuck of the transfer window with a lack of options in midfield and attack are currently biting us on the arse
.. but I could see the signs last year, I can't see the signs this year.
That said agree with the transfer window line.
 
There’s no obvious style and system to me. That's a concern because we don’t have the squad to deal in randoms. You need a plan A that makes life easier for the players. That’s down to the coach.

Recruitment was awful without doubt but I wonder how anyone thinks keeping Bowler was ever an option. The lad wanted to leave. You HAVE to cash in.
Nonsense

Plenty of Championship clubs managed to keep their better players

Rotherham and Blackburn for a start
 
This guy attacked Critchley win lose or draw under exactly the same circumstances but now it’s a different manager it’s everyone else’s fault.

Makes it up as he goes along
Critchley got more backing in league 1 than Appleton has had in the Championship
 
As the kids say these days, he has this board on strings.

A little bit of light entertainment to cut through the gloom and doom, its humours to watch. Thanks Phil.

Not the hero we deserve but the hero we've got. 🦇
 
Bowler leaving should have resulted in at least 2 players in of ready to go quality. We all knew he was leaving so these players should have been secured even before he left.

5 at the back is the only way he can set up, the idea being the wide 2 play as much in midfield as anything else. They are not WB's as such.

BM is surplus to requirements and maybe one or two others as well. Ged rid.

So they now have 2 weeks to get players in that nobody else really wants and no doubt they'll be some time off playing games at full tilt.

Thank God we do have MA otherwise the loans would be the likes of Dale and Kirk.
No issue with the point about having a Bowler replacement ready - although perhaps that’s what Poveda was/is meant to be.
Nonsense

Plenty of Championship clubs managed to keep their better players

Rotherham and Blackburn for a start
So you’d have let him go for free?
 
.. but I could see the signs last year, I can't see the signs this year.
That said agree with the transfer window line.
Yet I'm pretty sure this board was in agreement that the football under Critchley was uninspiring at best and that four games ago, the football under Appleton was miles better. What signs are you referring to?
 
For me Bowler is a big miss . He drew defenders onto him thereby creating space for the forwards

Problem is these types of players are hard to replace instantly.

Last one we had was Tom Ince over a decade ago.

The loss of such a creative player without a replacement means the whole system and shape has to change .

There was nothing the board could have done re Bowler . If the board had stood firm big risk unhappy player and loss of money .

We have to be patient and trust Appleton .

hallelujah.

There was nothing the board could have done re Bowler . If the board had stood firm big risk unhappy player and loss of money .

Exactly.

We stand in the way of players like Bowler and we'll never get them. Again.
 
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