Labour Party as Dead as Disco

Bloodtangerine said:
Party torn down the middle, has no policies at all, just talks in generalities about winning the publicā€™s trust back.....in what??

Starmer isnā€™t inspirational and almost certainly will be ousted/resign at some stage in next 12/18 months

Then they will elect a left wing leader or if they donā€™t another who will be harangued by the left wing as Starmer shortly will be

Surely we need a new more centrist Party to provide the opposition that Democracy relies on. It isnā€™t healthy to have a one Party state which is to all intents and purposes what we have due to Labourā€™s total Impotence
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You're wrong Sir. It don't look like it now but I just know, you're wrong.
 
Shandypants said:
Yep utter turgid shite when the OP is responsible for 70% of the thread.
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Absolute tripe Shittypants.

if it was that easy thereā€™d be Centuries all over the Board laddie.

just sit back and applaud a masterful knock from a Bat Wielding Genius ........thatā€™s all there is to do

put your bitterness aside for a few minutes and rejoice in my Sporting prowess (that btw certainly attracts the Ladies šŸ’‹ā¤ļø)
 
Two years (probably) until the next general election. A lot can change. I think this thread could reach the 500 mark eventually.
 
Malced said:
Two years (probably) until the next general election. A lot can change. I think this thread could reach the 500 mark eventually.
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Based on the 33pt poll, seat forecasts project Labour to have around 550 seats and the Tories 4.

Now, that poll is a massive outlier, all the other pollsters have the lead around 20. So this is just a bit of fun unless the others show it too. There are still lots of Tory 2019 voters who are now in the 'dont Know' camp and will swing back at any sign of improvement. Modelling seats based off polling is also tough and adds more uncertainty. We're also maybe 18 months away and lots can change. Miliband had a big lead in 2013 for example (not nearly this big tho).

Starmer could fuck up, who knows what scandals are around the corner, the economy could turn around. But they could also get worse. The Tories are planning to announce capital spending and public sector cuts next week. That will go down like a lead balloon. People haven't yet been hit by the rising energy bills coming into effect tomorrow and mortgage payments. We'll see how the NHS copes this winter.

All to say, the chances of a Canada 1993 style wipeout where the biggest party lost all their seats and had 2 left....is not zero. It's not likely, it's not going to happen, I'm not predicting or saying it. Not even saying it would be fair based on FPTP. But it's not zero. This could be an extinction level of event for the Tories, as some of their MPs are saying. It's an absolutely remarkable turn of events. I'd guess what is most likely now is 1997 again. I was very confident of a Labour government for the next election before last week. Now I' m confident of a Labour government for the next decade. But that's based on where we stand now, not what could change in two years time.
 
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