Wizzerboy
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Well the ** French didn't that's for sure
Liverpool fans boo the national anthem
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Malced
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I just walked past a street party in Poulton. There was a buzz of excitement and enjoyment. It was lovely to see.
I suppose itās a choice. You can live a happy positive life, or wallow in and spread misery, jealousy, resentment and divisiveness.
I know what I prefer.
I suppose itās a choice. You can live a happy positive life, or wallow in and spread misery, jealousy, resentment and divisiveness.
I know what I prefer.
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Malced
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By the way, I support free speech so I wouldnāt deny anyone the right to voice their dissent or the right to peacefully and lawfully protest.
Iām not comfortable with the police arresting protestors merely for displaying banners.
Iām not comfortable with the police arresting protestors merely for displaying banners.
BFC_BFC_BFC
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Thereās nothing āFactualā about itā¦ Itās a bloke in Fancy Dress.
The āNot My Kingā response is a natural and legitimate retort to the goons who seem to want to inflict this idiot and the whole nonsense that goes with him onto the rest of us.
If people want to play along with the Pantomime, then thatās their choice. Itās certainly not the intelligent choice though and it is a morally abhorrent choice, so letās be clear about it.
Wilburrabbit
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Not sure I heard booing but they sing Liverpool songs over the top.
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Malced
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Morally abhorrent to you. And youāre welcome to your opinion. But it sounds like an extreme one which I doubt you can justify.
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Malced
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Malced
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Thereāll be foodbanks and poverty with or without a monarchy. You do realise that yeah?
BFC_BFC_BFC
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Itās just morally abhorrent generally. Thereās no morally acceptable justification at all.
Iām not saying I donāt understand or āgetā why people are sucked into it, nor all of the āfinancialā, ātourist basedā, āpomp and ceremonyā justifications that are always bandied about at times like these, howeverā¦.
Ultimately the principle of Monarchy, the assumption of power based on birth right is repugnant and Iām afraid thereās no getting away from that.
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rockontommy
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If we were on the mainland (silly proposition because we aren't), I'd hazard a guess it'd be us rampaging around Europe needing to be repelled.
Spizz Tony
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Donāt do the āhā word. Hope those who love the Royals had a great dayā¦.I just despair at the cost of it all when food banks are losing funding and people are living in abject poverty; no hate just my opinion.
20togo
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The cost is astronomical of course, but life goes on despite all the many social problems the country has, It's easy and relevant to state issues like food banks etc but poverty has always been an issue but there's still a great many people packing pubs out etc and just getting on with life despite all these problems. It was a very special occasion with all the pomp and something we in this country do very well and long may it continue like that.
Wizzerboy
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We actually rampaged all over the world many decades before.
A bit of water didn't stop the English yet a thin strip of water prevented the Nazis from claiming Europe.
Phew, thank god for the English Channel
20togo
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Is there an element of hypocrisy and double standards? People raise the question of poverty and food banks. Don't know if Liverpool is one of the worst areas in that respect but hey they are all for putting on a good show with Eurovision. No expense spared with regards to cost no doubt.
TotallyTangerine
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No, Pierre Big Bollocks doesnāt quite have the same ring to it, does it!Obviously the French (with their bollocks) decide its better to chop women and children's heads off.
Unfortunately when Adolf came marching through their country, the majority of the bollocks carriers all shrivelled up and rolled over
Case of pick and choose when to have big bollocks eh!!
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rockontommy
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Spot on. And imagine not using your natural defences to even up the fight a bit lol.We actually rampaged all over the world many decades before.
A bit of water didn't stop the English yet a thin strip of water prevented the Nazis from claiming Europe.
Phew, thank god for the English Channel
Hmmmmm! You're British so like it or not, he actually is YOUR King.
The battle for France lasted for 46 days, the British evacuated at Dunkirk after 17 days of defeat.Obviously the French (with their bollocks) decide its better to chop women and children's heads off.
Unfortunately when Adolf came marching through their country, the majority of the bollocks carriers all shrivelled up and rolled over
Case of pick and choose when to have big bollocks eh!!
The French army was completely compromised by the high command ignoring reports of the approach through the Ardennes. Despite this the French fought a land war for a further month in their own country.
They in no way capitulated and the reason we never refer to their continuing battle is because we are conscious we backed out and left them to fight alone.
Theres good reason why we never discuss the Battle for France but are happy to focus entirely on the Dunkirk miracle.
Wizzerboy
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BFC_BFC_BFC
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I am British and no heās notā¦ I wrote to the Queen personally a number of years ago to confirm my legal position on the matter of opting out.
AllezBlackpool
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Was Thatcher the queen?
tangerinetitans
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He is yor king and your British so no matter how much you kick and scream it will never change.
Archibald Knox
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Thatās a rather selective rendering of the Battle for France. The German push through the Ardennes was targeted at the boundary between the French and British armies initially aimed at Paris. The Germans then wheeled north towards the Channel ports concentrating their fire power on driving the British back and using a thin shield on their southern front holding the French in place.
The French had thought they would go straight for Paris and so had pulled their forces back in that direction having initially tried and failed to stop the breakthrough. The British attacked the northern flank of the German advance with slow tanks but were outnumbered and outpaced. After that, being surrounded, the only option was to evacuate to fight another day. Thatās me being selective, too.
Perhaps more relevant to this thread was the behaviour of the ex-King Edward VIII, the Duke of Windsor who was definitely a Nazi sympathiser and is now thought to have been sending them information about British government intentions. He fled to the south of France disobeying Churchillās instructions and only fell into line when threatened with a court martial and imprisonment.
For the record, I believe he was possibly a Leyton Orient supporter, while the late Queen Elizabeth II was an Arsenal fan.
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Well that was a waste of a postage stamp. Imagine taking the time to write to YOUR queen to say you don't want her to be your queen, as though she'll write back to say she's sorry to see you leave and is there an incentive to offer to make you stay. It's not a marketing mailing list or a mobile phone subscription. You can feel whatever you like in your heart but it doesn't change the fact that they are YOUR Royal Family.
Seasider1887
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Thereās alway one
Wizaard
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I've seen the identical photo with a Spurs shirt on.
That badge design came in after he died.
BFC_BFC_BFC
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Iām not kicking and screaming.. I just donāt have a King, a Queen or any other kind of Fairy Tale character thanksā¦ You can have them
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I didnāt write to her to say āI didnāt want herā
I simply gave her notice to formally clarify my status in order to avoid any confusion.
Matesrates
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Itās a tactic, they whinge about how badly done to they are, then they get city of culture and Eurovision
Johnno
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Not to mention that the heroic defence of Lille by the French bought us extra time to prepare the evacuation.
After Lille fell, the French that managed to escape, and other French made up the rearguard whilst the evacuation took place.
40,000 of them were left at Dunkirk.
If the French had had no balls, the BEF would never had escaped.
Archibald Knox
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Well, the French resisted in Lille for about 4 days. But it was not really the French, it was a 1000-strong battalion of Senegalese troops, with a few small pioneer units.
To add injury to insult, two weeks after the French had surrendered and signed an armistice with Germany the Royal Navy shelled the French fleet at Mars-el-Kebir on 3rd July 1940, blowing up a battleship, severely damaging two more capital ships and several smaller ones. 1300 French sailors were killed.
All to stop the ships falling into German hands because the arrogant French admiral, Darlan, refused to sail them to safety in the West Indies. That was viewed as dastardly ruthlessness and caused French animosity for many years afterwards. Thatās why many of the French prefer to think that the Americans liberated them in 1944
Matesrates
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Didnāt know that, it makes you understand to some extent, why the French donāt appear to like us, and as a result, we donāt like them.
Johnno
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There was about 40,000 French at Lille. It did include some African troops, But the vast majority were mainland French. There were about 35,000 prisoners taken at Lille.
No arguments with the rest.
The French High Command failed the ordinary soldier with their decisions. The French Army outnumbered the Germans in men but their tactics were doomed to failure. Tanks were not mobilised en masse and retreats were ordered in most cases where they could have stood and fought. After France was defeated the Germans discovered to their delight many planes, artillery, tanks, and other equipment that had never even been used in battle.
Johnno
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Iāve just done some googling to make sure I wasnāt mistaken, and found that apart from Churchill praising the defence, saying it was a major factor in us escaping Dunkirk, the Germans granted the French prisoners āhonours of warā. They were allowed to march through Lille, with German soldiers stood to attention, in respect, as they passed. Hitler threw a track, apparently.
Historians reckon that by distracting 7 German divisions, the French saved 100,000 British lives.
Historians reckon that by distracting 7 German divisions, the French saved 100,000 British lives.
Archibald Knox
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I donāt think we disagree; I was referring to the siege of Lille citadel defended by the Senegalese, which lasted 4 days.There was about 40,000 French at Lille. It did include some African troops, But the vast majority were mainland French. There were about 35,000 prisoners taken at Lille.
No arguments with the rest.
The 40,000 French troops covered the whole of the Lille region, from the Dutch border in the north down past Calais and Bologna to Abbeville at the mouth of the Somme and as far south inland as far as Arras, probably 3,000 sq miles.
