Liverpool v Man City

Sick of hearing Liverpool fans go on about it’s having no fans & the fact they’ve so many centre backs injured.

They had all of January to address the injury situation and panicked on the last day of the window. They knew VVD is out for the season at the start of the window and Gomez and Matip are always picking up injuries so they’ve only themselves to blame.

Also to be fair VVD did play when they shipped 7 against Villa.

They’ve been found out and Klopp has no plan B, can go on about the centre backs as much as you want but they aren’t scoring no where near like they were last season, your telling me that’s down to injuries at the back and no fans, utter bollocks.

Phil Foden was absolutely superb and should be starting for England in that form. Yes he made a mistake in Bulgaria or wherever it was I’ve forgot but let’s move on now he’s served his punishment by being dropped but no doubt the media will find a negative story about him to hamper the England stars like they always do.
 
Two different managers going into this game. Pep positive and Klopp making all the excuses. If you keep banging on about tiredness then your players start to believe it.
 
Sick of hearing Liverpool fans go on about it’s having no fans & the fact they’ve so many centre backs injured.

They had all of January to address the injury situation and panicked on the last day of the window. They knew VVD is out for the season at the start of the window and Gomez and Matip are always picking up injuries so they’ve only themselves to blame.

Also to be fair VVD did play when they shipped 7 against Villa.

They’ve been found out and Klopp has no plan B, can go on about the centre backs as much as you want but they aren’t scoring no where near like they were last season, your telling me that’s down to injuries at the back and no fans, utter bollocks.

Phil Foden was absolutely superb and should be starting for England in that form. Yes he made a mistake in Bulgaria or wherever it was I’ve forgot but let’s move on now he’s served his punishment by being dropped but no doubt the media will find a negative story about him to hamper the England stars like they always do.
Problem is England have a poor manager
And Foden, Grealish, Mount etc will just end up the same way the so called ‘golden generation’ did. I agree we have some great young players coming through. But don’t pin your hopes on them making England in to a great team. It just won’t happen
 
The truth which must be dawning on Jurgen Klopp is that several elements have conspired to turn his world beaters into average Joe’s.

of course Van Dijk is a genius but his side kick Gomez and Matip the understudy being out too is just too much to cope with. Even resorted to buying Preston players for gods sake.... No wonder Allison lack confidence in those in front of him.

The decision to remove Henderson and Fabinho from midfield coupled with the clearly struggling Tiago had compounded this.

Add to that the fact that the Premier Leagues bosses have sussed the front three means they simply can’t break down defences. With Firmino targeted and out of form Salah and Mane are feeding off scraps.

Not playing either Kabak or Davies in Defence today was foolish. The season is still capable of saving if he gets his best midfield of Henderson, Fabinho and Wijnaldum back and plays Kabak, Phillips, Williams or Davies in rotation.
 
So I must have imagined the Champions League win and the 97 point total in the Prem the year before. And the Champions League Finalists the year before that. At least get your facts right before you post
 
Liverpool are still a very good team. City weren't much better than them before Allisons horrendous errors. Agree that Klopp should have had more faith in his defenders and tried to keep his strongest midfield together maybe apart from Fabinho to give some experience in the defence. Salah and Mane are great players but will Salah ever scale the peak he achieved in his first season when he got around 50 goals? I don't think so.
I also sense that Salah and Mane don't particularly get on too. Perhaps they both want to be the big star. Wouldn't surprise me if one of them if not both were to leave this summer.
 
Liverpool are shit seems to be the take away here?
Pretty much true at the moment Blood.
But that won't last as they have the perfect manager to turn things round. Trouble is footy fans want instant and permanent success. Sometimes you have to take a step back and realise what a remarkable 3 seasons they've had. I'll be very surprised if they're not back challenging next season. Those gloating now and hoping they've gone away might just be choking on their words.
What else is true is that them winning so many trophies recently has got under a lot of peoples' skin. 😉
 
Dunno I am talking league. Not cup competitions.
So you didn't know they won the Champions league the season before? And got 97 points in the league? Also reached the Champions League final the season before that? Hardly 'one season whizz kids' like Leicester.
 
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Allison Blunderland 😂
He's been reading the book of comical keeper errors by David De Gay.

I know Klopp keeps bleeting on about fatigue but they do look extremely jaded. That isn't the Liverpool side that have done so well for the past 2/3 years.

City will absolutely stoll this now. What a talent they have in Phil Foden and he's English
 
He's been reading the book of comical keeper errors by David De Gay.

I know Klopp keeps bleeting on about fatigue but they do look extremely jaded. That isn't the Liverpool side that have done so well for the past 2/3 years.

City will absolutely stoll this now. What a talent they have in Phil Foden and he's English
I agree City will stroll it and this season they've been the best team in what is a very average but competitive Premier League.
Foden is exceptional but I wouldn't be pinning my hopes on this current crop of talented young English players making England a great team.
History tells us that just doesn't happen.
It would appear that three exceptional seasons on the trot is a step too far with mainly the same squad of players. City did a 100 and a 98 point season. Then last season they fell away in the league, losing 9 games.
Liverpool did a 97 and a 99 point season and they too have fallen away.
Maybe it's just near impossible to achieve that level, consistency and intensity over 3 seasons.
 
So you didn't know they won the Champions league the season before? And got 97 points in the league? Also reached the Champions League final the season before that? Hardly 'one season whizz kids' like Leicester.
Only won the Premiership once. Like Leicester. Couldn't give a toss about cups.
 
Liverpool are still a very good team. City weren't much better than them before Allisons horrendous errors. Agree that Klopp should have had more faith in his defenders and tried to keep his strongest midfield together maybe apart from Fabinho to give some experience in the defence. Salah and Mane are great players but will Salah ever scale the peak he achieved in his first season when he got around 50 goals? I don't think so.
I also sense that Salah and Mane don't particularly get on too. Perhaps they both want to be the big star. Wouldn't surprise me if one of them if not both were to leave this summer.
Klopp was deluded in the post match interview when he said they deserved a draw. They stole a penalty with some comical overreacting to the slightest of contacts while City could and should have scored more. Miles better.
 
Phil Foden is becoming a very good player at City and getting plenty of game time, but l wouldn’t have him minding my car!🤣🤣🤣
 
Klopp was deluded in the post match interview when he said they deserved a draw. They stole a penalty with some comical overreacting to the slightest of contacts while City could and should have scored more. Miles better.
And miles better they should be shouldn't they. But when you actually look at the facts, they're not actually miles better.
With a net spend of 505 million compared to Klopp's 90 million, I think Guardiola should be winning trophies. Also when you consider City's spend on players in the last ten years has exceeded one billion.
What you've also got to take take in to consideration that Guardiola inherited a much stronger squad than Klopp and therefore had much less of a rebuilding job to do.
What I find amazing is that Klopp even managed to take the title from City last season despite the gulf in spending power. Even more amazing is Klopp has got Liverpool to two Champions League finals and won one, whereas Guardiola has failed to even get to a final, despite his huge spending power
Amazing isn't it.
 
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Some of the posts (and length of them) suggest Blackpool may be a 2nd team to for many to City, Liverpool or United.........
 
Pretty much true at the moment Blood.
But that won't last as they have the perfect manager to turn things round. Trouble is footy fans want instant and permanent success. Sometimes you have to take a step back and realise what a remarkable 3 seasons they've had. I'll be very surprised if they're not back challenging next season. Those gloating now and hoping they've gone away might just be choking on their words.
What else is true is that them winning so many trophies recently has got under a lot of peoples' skin. 😉
My comment was just a joke mate
 
I agree City will stroll it and this season they've been the best team in what is a very average but competitive Premier League.
Foden is exceptional but I wouldn't be pinning my hopes on this current crop of talented young English players making England a great team.
History tells us that just doesn't happen.
It would appear that three exceptional seasons on the trot is a step too far with mainly the same squad of players. City did a 100 and a 98 point season. Then last season they fell away in the league, losing 9 games.
Liverpool did a 97 and a 99 point season and they too have fallen away.
Maybe it's just near impossible to achieve that level, consistency and intensity over 3 seasons.
Fergie’s Man Utd won three in a row...as the song famously boasts
 
He's been reading the book of comical keeper errors by David De Gay.

I know Klopp keeps bleeting on about fatigue but they do look extremely jaded. That isn't the Liverpool side that have done so well for the past 2/3 years.

City will absolutely stoll this now. What a talent they have in Phil Foden and he's English
Homophobic slur.......has been reported to Mods. I am offended cos I know someone who might be a bit Gay.....well he quite likes dancing so we all think he may be.
 
And miles better they should be shouldn't they. But when you actually look at the facts, they're not actually miles better.
With a net spend of 505 million compared to Klopp's 90 million, I think Guardiola should be winning trophies. Also when you consider City's spend on players in the last ten years has exceeded one billion.
What you've also got to take take in to consideration that Guardiola inherited a much stronger squad than Klopp and therefore had much less of a rebuilding job to do.
What I find amazing is that Klopp even managed to take the title from City last season despite the gulf in spending power. Even more amazing is Klopp has got Liverpool to two Champions League finals and won one, whereas Guardiola has failed to even get to a final, despite his huge spending power
Amazing isn't it.
Pauper Scousers. Ok.
 
Pauper Scousers. Ok.
Not at all, they're far from paupers. But compared to City they are. And United for that matter. But thanks for your agreement anyway. Just stating a few facts to put things in to perspective.
It's a bit like expecting Blackpool to compete with big Championship clubs.
And that's why Holloway's achievement is up there with the best.
 
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