We've ended up with generations of thickos with folk attending schools normally. It can't be any worse
Yes but you can look out of your window and see the thunder storm or you can be in the house and smell the smoke and then you can decide to go out and risk the lightening or decide to stay in and chuck some buckets of water about or to leave the house (hopefully fire not started by lightening!) - not so many clear signs when the danger is microscopic but you know you can only catch it from other humans or things other humans touched recently - so whats the best policy? I think I’ll try and avoid other people as much as possible thank you very much!
It's a similar if less serious situation with the football. Those players (mainly from relegation threatened teams) who want the season scrapped. Do they think that the virus will conveniently pack it's bags and go away so they can start next season safely?
Which is exactly what we are doing...
Why thickos? My daughter has been doing 6 or 7 hours work a day set by the school which is then scanned, sent in and marked.
So testing is some kind of reassurance is it? You can have as many tests as you like - but if you contract the damn thing all the testing in the world isn’t going to make you better, and no guarantee that you will only get mild symptoms even if you are not in an “at risk” group - just seem to be a lot of people trumpeting that other people should be placing themselves at risk for “the general good of the economy” to me is all - and especially those people in a better position to avoid that selfsame risk themselves.Which is exactly what we are doing...
There’s plenty of evidence to show that
a) The risk of significant transmission between children in a normal school environment is minimal.
b) The risk of children or healthy adults, within a certain age bracket, dying from the virus is also minimal.
Our high risk population are aware of who they are and we can take measures to limit contact with those who are vulnerable.
We can take proportionate measures in schools to ensure the already low transmission rates are reduced further.
We are already phasing the opening of schools and have much greater testing capability in the event of any possible isolated outbreak.
And of course, you are free to isolate yourself indefinitely, should that be something you feel it is the right thing for you personally
Is every school doing it? Is every parent bothered? What about vulnerable kids who live in dysfunctional families and never get a decent hot meal? I posted earlier “ keeping your kids out of school is a middle class privilege “
Because your daughter is very likely one of a limited number of kids who will actually be benefitting from that level of attention at home wiz.
Yes, of course testing is some kind of reassurance.
He shouldn't have fallen into Marr's trap and said they teachers would be safe, they aren't, but as you said, they never were before Covid-19.
It just frustrates me, because it's the public who are the loser here... Marr get's his 'prey' and the headlines focus on the narrow agenda "Gove fails to guarantee safety in Schools".
Funnily enough I took issue with Andrew Neil when he interviewed Jeremy Corbyn during the election campaign for exactly the same thing. Gove stammered around the subject like the wally he is, but it doesn't get away from the fact that by pursuing the headline, Marr has failed to [properly inform the British Public. He got what he wanted, which was to flummox Gove into providing a media soundbite, but unfortunately the Public are being misinformed as a result.
The government should have provided the detailed information from the start as they got it, particularly regarding who's most at risk, which isn't the children.
I'm not against a return at all, subject to appropriate measures being in place. It's good enough for adults in every other area of work. Adults in schools too.
Agree, I think giving parents an insight into comparative risk would have been the sensible thing to do. Without wishing to be harsh we've wandered too far into "pot bellied, weary African child with a fly on it's face" terrrtory. That's great if you are trying to persuade people to part with a donation or, in this case, to scare people enough to get an entire country to stay home, but not so good when you need people to start engaging with life again.
Mine would be Stay Home, Stay Safe, Protect As Many As You Can - people are adaptable, we’ve already proven that - I just don’t understand the rush to get back out there just yet is all.
I doubt you would understand any of it anyway you thick fucker✌
That's cool, but it's not for me...
Right on, man. Love and peace
It’s the media’s job to stir up crap, for totally self serving purposes as we know.
Bollie - I believe all private schools will remain closed, whilst state schools will open. That speaks volumes!
Any politician does. Each political party or voter cites press misrepresentation and bias. Particularly Labour voters who cannot stand most of the press due to owner influence.
Assuming those were child deaths, then perhaps Covid is not quite as bad as Measles.... Annual Flu is probably a more reasonable comparison, although still probably a bit worse than Covid.
Agreed.
It depends how far you go back, but there have been a small number of UK deaths even since the vaccination program started.
They were mostly children according to WHO
www.livescience.com
Just think about that for a second. Why? Do they not think it's safe, do they not have the space to socially distance, have their teachers all run away, have they gone bust?
Any risk is comparable in terms of the current risk figure you are exposing to your child to, as are the chances of being hit by lighting.I'm not sure they are comparable.
Yes, that's not quite what I meant. Also, I was speed reading and lost the point that this thread is referring to children. Anyhow, measles is creeping back due to lower vaccination uptakes. It is far more transmissible than Covid 19 with R0 of 12-18. This is a risk some parents seem prepared to take, which sums up the madness of all this. I had measles as a kid. It's not very pleasant.
