Official approach for Duff

IMO ice bucket shows complete disrespect to the manager. I don’t want a clown as leader either. Or anyone who has previously been sacked.
That should narrow the field down a little bit
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Sorry I meant Isn Evans 👍
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Your the one who ain’t wired up right .

Who you on abaht brotha ???????

I think Duff would be a good appointment

Aside from that video which was a one off I get the impression he’s a serious guy who would fit in well
 
AngelBFC said:
Duffs fist pumping routine puts Critchleys well and truly into the shade

www.skysports.com

Ice dunk and dad dancing: Cheltenham's wild celebrations

Cheltenham manager Michael Duff was covered in ice by his team after they were promoted, then showed off some cringe-worthy dance moves for good measure.
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Can see that absolutely inspiring the north stand, absolute mental pumps, if we in the north do it too they'll be about 1k knock outs.

Cant wait. 👊
 
AngelBFC said:
Your the one who ain’t wired up right .

Who you on abaht brotha ???????

I think Duff would be a good appointment

Aside from that video which was a one off I get the impression he’s a serious guy who would fit in well
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It’s all a bit too much for me that dance routine.

Big Evers would be my first choice 👍

I think we’ll likely have talks with a good few potentials, so wouldn’t read too much into the interview with Mad McDuff.
 
Apologies if this is somewhere else but here's the statement from Cheltenham about Duffers.

www.ctfc.com

Michael Duff: an update

The Board is conscious of the speculation surrounding the future of Michael Duff and would like to update Cheltenham Town supporters about the current situation.
www.ctfc.com www.ctfc.com
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It’s all a bit too much for me that dance routine.

Big Evers would be my first choice 👍

I think we’ll likely have talks with a good few potentials, so wouldn’t read too much into the interview with Mad McDuff.
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Tbf thats only when he's won promotion, if he wins us promotion I'll happily watch him do that dance all day.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It’s all a bit too much for me that dance routine.

Big Evers would be my first choice 👍

I think we’ll likely have talks with a good few potentials, so wouldn’t read too much into the interview with Mad McDuff.
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I'd be surprised if Evo is interested at the moment.

Stranger things have happened though. Also a great candidate imo 👌
 
Memphisboy said:
Couple of issues with Duff one being the couple of times I saw them it was primarily long ball with some guy winging massive throws into the box. The other is the name not entirely comfortable with our manager having the surname Duff, maybe I’m shallow. Doesn’t strike me as a particularly charismatic individual, could be wrong, but been in game decades and I wouldn’t have a clue what he looked like.
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The guy with the long throw was Tozer who was bought by Wrexham mid season.
 
Goforgoal said:
Just been thinking, in his interview BM said Villa “ went about things the right way and conducted themselves properly “ no they didn’t. If they had gone about things in the right way, they would have contacted BFC and asked for permission to speak to Critchley , as we did with Cheltenam, not a late night phone call from Gerrard saying come and join us. Critchley, as we know didn’t do things the right way either with another late call to BM saying I’m off, sort the terms with Villa. He’s gone and after the last few days I’m glad, but the more I think about it the more annoyed I am. I had better stop thinking about it.😁
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Definitely an illegal approach,
Must have given us plenty of compo.
 
Goforgoal said:
Just been thinking, in his interview BM said Villa “ went about things the right way and conducted themselves properly “ no they didn’t. If they had gone about things in the right way, they would have contacted BFC and asked for permission to speak to Critchley , as we did with Cheltenam, not a late night phone call from Gerrard saying come and join us. Critchley, as we know didn’t do things the right way either with another late call to BM saying I’m off, sort the terms with Villa. He’s gone and after the last few days I’m glad, but the more I think about it the more annoyed I am. I had better stop thinking about it.😁
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My interpretation was, basically everyone in the world of football, players, coaches managers etc are ‘tapped up’ before a move and there is literally no point getting irate about it anymore, as we’ve probably done it in the past and maybe even during this recruitment drive. Like you say I was a bit surprised about how blasé BM was about it, but the fact he was told me it’s the standard.

Villa probably ponied the money up straight away and maybe paid a little bit of a sweetener into the deal to get it done in what seems like 24hours. That was Villa ‘doing the right thing and behaving in the proper manner’

Plus BM is a smart cookie, he left the line dangling as a little prod to the fans that Critch went running as soon as his master called, dropping all that he was and all that he could have been here to brew up for Stevie, a little bit of fuel to the fire of the sad tale that is now Neil Quitchley.

Would have love to have been a fly on the wall of the meeting between SS and Quitchley on the Thursday morning.
 
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Wallo7619 said:
Senior career*
YearsTeamApps(Gls)
1996–2004Cheltenham Town300(15)
1996–1997→ Cirencester Town (loan)
2004–2016Burnley342(7)

seems a very loyal player/Manager
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Well that would be nice! I firmly believe that if NC releases a statement, if only to the fans he apparently loved, then for me and hopefully most others it will be bitter, but a lot better than this radio silence we are getting.

I’m just still so disappointed. If on the other hand he says nothing, then if he ever comes back to Bloomfield road he’s going to get a lot of stick.
I liked this quote from Ben Mansford:

“This is a good job for someone, the club has come on so far and I hope the next person that comes in is here because they want to be here”
😔🍊
 
SeasideSid said:
Don’t know enough about him or how he plays but it doesn’t get my juices flowing.
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Maybe he doesn't get your juices flowing Because you haven't seen his team play or know anything about him. Easy enough to research these matters before you dismiss poor ol Duffy
 
I'll be honest and after listening to him I would prefer not to go down the Duff route. Another factor in that is the leak that we have approached Cheltenham to ask permission to speak to him. The Barnsley approach was out in the open and the fact that Cheltenham are offering him a new improved deal makes me think there is a bit of horse trading going on. I want a Manager/Head Coach who would drop everything and be bombing up the M5/M6 to sign on the dotted line. We are not a glorified L1 club we are an ambitious Championship club and would want any candidate to be prepared to crawl over broken glass to join us.
 
Duff doesn't seem intelligent enough to be a Championship manager IMO or to see through Ben and Simon's long term plans.

Just comes across as a bit of a neanderthal wide boy who is the "gaffer" of a bunch of lads. Not the right fit. Would be very surprised of he is appointed.
 
Macseasider said:
Duff doesn't seem intelligent enough to be a Championship manager IMO or to see through Ben and Simon's long term plans.

Just comes across as a bit of a neanderthal wide boy who is the "gaffer" of a bunch of lads. Not the right fit. Would be very surprised of he is appointed.
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People thought the same about Holloway. I think his personality is a strength, more of a Klopp than a Guardiola which suits us.
 
Macseasider said:
Duff doesn't seem intelligent enough to be a Championship manager IMO or to see through Ben and Simon's long term plans.

Just comes across as a bit of a neanderthal wide boy who is the "gaffer" of a bunch of lads. Not the right fit. Would be very surprised of he is appointed.
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My thoughts exactly….

The dancing thing is just plain idiotic and he doesn’t come across as having any particular insight as to why he’s been successful beyond the scope of the typical “great group of lads” cliches.

I’m not convinced it takes much of a brain tumour deliver success at that level, but I think he’d be a duffer for us.

Can’t see him getting past the interview stage …
 
Macseasider said:
Duff doesn't seem intelligent enough to be a Championship manager IMO or to see through Ben and Simon's long term plans.

Just comes across as a bit of a neanderthal wide boy who is the "gaffer" of a bunch of lads. Not the right fit. Would be very surprised of he is appointed.
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You don't need to be a mastermind to be a Championship manager ; you do need football intelligence which his results at Cheltenham
suggest he has. He will need to interview well though.
 
FessParker said:
You don't need to be a mastermind to be a Championship manager ; you do need football intelligence which his results at Cheltenham
suggest he has. He will need to interview well though.
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No they don’t…

There’s some absolute muppets who have managed to gain success in L1 & L2, simply by generating a reasonable team spirit and getting the basics right.

This Duff fella is clearly an idiot… He dances like some kind of mentalist, clearly doesn’t have the respect of his players, lacks proper discipline and relies on stupid games in training.

It might go down OK with a bunch of daft kids perhaps, but when managing decent professionals you need to bring much more to the table.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
No they don’t…

There’s some absolute muppets who have managed to gain success in L1 & L2, simply by generating a reasonable team spirit and getting the basics right.

This Duff fella is clearly an idiot… He dances like some kind of mentalist, clearly doesn’t have the respect of his players, lacks proper discipline and relies on stupid games in training.

It might go down OK with a bunch of daft kids perhaps, but when managing decent professionals you need to bring much more to the table.
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‘Clearly an idiot’?

Are you basing that on him dancing like a dad when they’ve won promotion and having ice poured over his head by his players? Harry Redknapp had water poured over him during an interview whilst at Spurs and I’d say he had the respect of his players.

As for ‘stupid games in training’ - heaven forbid a manager tries to make it enjoyable and different.

Get him in.
 
Tangerine_Dream said:
‘Clearly an idiot’?

Are you basing that on him dancing like a dad when they’ve won promotion and having ice poured over his head by his players? Harry Redknapp had water poured over him during an interview whilst at Spurs and I’d say he had the respect of his players.

As for ‘stupid games in training’ - heaven forbid a manager tries to make it enjoyable and different.

Get him in.
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I'm basing it on...

1. Idiot Dancing - Encouraged by his players (who are also clearly a bit stupid) - It's quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever witnessed from a manager.

2. Ice Bucket over the head during interview - Lack of respect from his players (Harry Redknapp is also thick as Mince)

3. His inability to articulate himself beyond the basics

He clearly relies on monkeying around as opposed to professionalism and IMO that's not a formula for consistent and long term success and particularly not as you step up through the higher levels. I think you also have to take account of what the existing squad is used to and how they will transition from an intelligent and thoughtful tactician like Critchley to Duff slapping them in the face with a wet glove.

Ian Evatt please.... At least he's got a brain and actually understands what he's doing and why it might make him successful.
 
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Looking at this sensibly, I would think the Barnsley interest would have sparked the alleged new contract offer from Cheltenham and given his playing connection I would think he would stay where he is rather than move to another league one side. Blackpool coming in will change the dynamic as this is a chance to manage at a higher level straight away.
It will be interesting to see how this develops, but based upon what I've read I would be happy with this.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I'm basing it on...

1. Idiot Dancing - Encouraged by his players (who are also clearly a bit stupid) - It's quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever witnessed from a manager.

2. Ice Bucket over the head during interview - Lack of respect from his players (Harry Redknapp is also thick as Mince)

3. His inability to articulate himself beyond the basics

He clearly relies on monkeying around as opposed to professionalism and IMO that's not a formula for consistent and long term success and particularly not as you step up through the higher levels.

Ian Evatt please.... At least he's got a brain and actually understands what he's doing and why it might make him successful.
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1. Similar sort of thing Holloway did away at Forest but with a cone on his head and he did more than ok with the resources available.

2. Harry Redknapp must have been a piss poor manager who struggled to gain respect from his players to manage at such a poor level throughout his career 😆

3. The interviews I’ve seen of him, he seems to come across very well.

Evatt took barrow up from none league - great achievement which is probably on par with Duff taking Cheltenham up.

Evatt took Bolton up but that was minimum expectation.

I’d be happy with either of them.
 
Tangerine_Dream said:
1. Similar sort of thing Holloway did away at Forest but with a cone on his head and he did more than ok with the resources available.

2. Harry Redknapp must have been a piss poor manager who struggled to gain respect from his players to manage at such a poor level throughout his career 😆

3. The interviews I’ve seen of him, he seems to come across very well.

Evatt took barrow up from none league - great achievement which is probably on par with Duff taking Cheltenham up.

Evatt took Bolton up but that was minimum expectation.

I’d be happy with either of them.
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1. Putting a cone on your head and jumping around a bit in front of the fans is completely different to going into complete mad man mode, which is clearly a regular thing for him, considering the players were egging it on.

2. Redknapp is a dinosaur and wouldn't get a look in nowadays... Not that you'd ever see him dancing like a ** regardless

3. When you say "Comes across very well" what do you mean? I'll grant that he can speak on a basic level ... But he certainly doesn't give any sense of gravitas or tactical nous.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
1. Putting a cone on your head and jumping around a bit in front of the fans is completely different to going into complete mad man mode, which is clearly a regular thing for him, considering the players were egging it on.

2. Redknapp is a dinosaur and wouldn't get a look in nowadays... Not that you'd ever see him dancing like a ** regardless

3. When you say "Comes across very well" what do you mean? I'll grant that he can speak on a basic level ... But he certainly doesn't give any sense of gravitas or tactical nous.
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1. Wouldn’t say it is.

2. He is a dinosaur now, I’m talking about when he was at spurs, about 10-15 year ago. I wasn’t talking about him dancing, I was referring to a player chucking water on him, which you describe as not having the respect of the players.

3. He comes across as a knowledgeable guy in his interviews, to imply a guy who finished 4th and then won the league with Cheltenham, before leading them to the best league finish in their history has no tactical nouse is a bit ignorant to be fair.
 
Tangerine_Dream said:
1. Wouldn’t say it is.

2. He is a dinosaur now, I’m talking about when he was at spurs, about 10-15 year ago. I wasn’t talking about him dancing, I was referring to a player chucking water on him, which you describe as not having the respect of the players.

3. He comes across as a knowledgeable guy in his interviews, to imply a guy who finished 4th and then won the league with Cheltenham, before leading them to the best league finish in their history has no tactical nouse is a bit ignorant to be fair.
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1. Of course it is.... Holloway was in control of himself and just having a bit of fun.... By comparison, Duff looks completely out of control and almost childlike state.

2. I think football has moved on and become much more professional in the last 10-15 years in any case, which is why we've seen a lot of the old dinosaurs really struggle to compete. To my mind Duff's methods hark back to a bygone era.

3. Simon Grayson has achieved numerous promotions to the Championship, but he's still lacks the kind of tactical astuteness that is required at the higher level. As I said, that kind of team bonding and employing the basics well is all that you need in the lower leagues... There's a huge chasm between L2/L1 and L1/Champ... Please link an interview where he comes across as knowledgeable about the game and provides some kind of tactical insight..
 
The board will have done their homework on this guy if they are to interview him which is all speculation at the minute.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
1. Of course it is.... Holloway was in control of himself and just having a bit of fun.... By comparison, Duff looks completely out of control and almost childlike state.

2. I think football has moved on and become much more professional in the last 10-15 years in any case, which is why we've seen a lot of the old dinosaurs really struggle to compete. To my mind Duff's methods hark back to a bygone era.

3. Simon Grayson has achieved numerous promotions to the Championship, but he's still lacks the kind of tactical astuteness that is required at the higher level. As I said, that kind of team bonding and employing the basics well is all that you need in the lower leagues... There's a huge chasm between L2/L1 and L1/Champ... Please link an interview where he comes across as knowledgeable about the game and provides some kind of tactical insight..
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Your last point contradicts half of what you’ve just said.

In one breath you’ve said football has moved on in the last 10-15 years and in the next you’ve used Grayson as an example of a manager who’s won promotions from league 1. Grayson hasn’t achieved anything in the game for a hell of a long time.

I haven’t got an interview to use, I’m basing his tactical knowledge on results his team have gained.

So, you don’t want him as manager because you don’t agree with how he celebrates and dances, let’s hope the board don’t have similar, odd ‘put offs’ and concentrate on him as a head coach/manager.
 
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