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Well if this thread has taught us one thing - there are fewer more pathetic sights than an English, white, baby-boomer playing the victim.
Eggs.Just for the sake of it I will refer back to the O/P, as it appears this thread has gone off on a tangent. (No surprises there)
The letter from the Black Lives Matter group to the POTUS elect and his Vice President is all well and good although it does appear to have a somewhat threatening undertone.
Regardless of that one thing is for certain, regardless of how Biden tackles this issue.
As soon as the next black, gun toting, knife wielding, assaulter of pregnant women and all round nasty piece of work gets shot and killed by the police (whether that be a black or white officer) then once again the streets of the US will turn into rioting and looting, etc, etc, etc.
Joe Biden needs all the help he can get to resolve this pandemic amongst certain parts of the American population.
This has been festering for many, many years and sadly it is not going to go away any time soon.
On a lighter note, I was quite amazed that when “gammon” was being discussed on this thread the gastronomic expert (aka Allez) didn’t make an appearance to discuss eggs or pineapple as the best accompaniment.
Could I just say I’m an English, white, baby boomer and I don’t feel victimised or offended in the slightest. I suspect it’s a tiny minority who just enjoy being outraged all the time.Well if this thread has taught us one thing - there are fewer more pathetic sights than an English, white, baby-boomer playing the victim.
The term 'gammon' is the equivalent of calling somebody 'a chocolate drop'. Both are wildly racist. I'm surprised this thread has stayed up on here for so long tbh.
That post is from last November. You must be well bored.
Too many sensit6ive souls around these days, seems like many people have nothing better to do than get offended.That post is from last November. You must be well bored.
Don't fall into the 'acceptable racism' trap. Racism - prejudice, antagonism, based on a person's skin colour - is simply wrong and should be called out.
'Gammon' in this context is clearly used as a derogatory term based on skin colour - only a fool would argue otherwise - and should be called out just as anyone using the term 'chocolate drop' should be challenged. There is no 'acceptable racism' be it anti-Semitism, anti-White or anti-Eastern European.
Top post.As a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
I am a fiscal & moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget & support myself and my family.
I went to Secondary School & have always held a job. I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was "advantaged”.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe. I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 50 making me a useless eater who doesn't understand Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat.
I think & I reason, and I doubt much of what "mainstream" media tells me, which makes me a "Right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I am proud of my heritage & our inclusive British culture, making me a xenophobe.
I believe in hard work, fair play, & fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort - not freedom of outcome or subsidies which makes me a borderline sociopath.
I believe in the defence & protection of Great Britain for & by all citizens, now making me a militant.
I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I must be an imperialist and a racist.
Please help me come to terms with the new me because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!
Funny - it all took place over the last 7 or 8 years !!
If all this nonsense wasn't enough to deal with, now I don't even know which fecking toilet to use !!
But have we though? I think this is a perpetual England fan mistake.
Is their forward line of Gnabry, Havertz and Sane/Muller worse than ours? No.
Would Kroos/Gundogan get in our midfield? Yes.
Would Stones and Maguire get in their team? Not too sure!
Neuer, or Pickford?!
Plus. Their coaching is better, they know how to maximize their assets, they are more confident, they have the hoodoo on us. Etc.
But we are at home, at least! And haven't conceded yet. Hungary drew in Munich. I guess we have a chance but we need to be more positive.
Brilliant post.As a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
I am a fiscal & moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget & support myself and my family.
I went to Secondary School & have always held a job. I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was "advantaged”.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe. I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 50 making me a useless eater who doesn't understand Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat.
I think & I reason, and I doubt much of what "mainstream" media tells me, which makes me a "Right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I am proud of my heritage & our inclusive British culture, making me a xenophobe.
I believe in hard work, fair play, & fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort - not freedom of outcome or subsidies which makes me a borderline sociopath.
I believe in the defence & protection of Great Britain for & by all citizens, now making me a militant.
I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I must be an imperialist and a racist.
Please help me come to terms with the new me because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!
Funny - it all took place over the last 7 or 8 years !!
If all this nonsense wasn't enough to deal with, now I don't even know which fecking toilet to use !!
You’ve clearly had a very tough life with all that going on. Not to worry. Your AVFTT brothers and sisters are here to provide any support you need #we’re all victims nowAs a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
I am a fiscal & moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget & support myself and my family.
I went to Secondary School & have always held a job. I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was "advantaged”.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe. I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 50 making me a useless eater who doesn't understand Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat.
I think & I reason, and I doubt much of what "mainstream" media tells me, which makes me a "Right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I am proud of my heritage & our inclusive British culture, making me a xenophobe.
I believe in hard work, fair play, & fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort - not freedom of outcome or subsidies which makes me a borderline sociopath.
I believe in the defence & protection of Great Britain for & by all citizens, now making me a militant.
I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I must be an imperialist and a racist.
Please help me come to terms with the new me because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!
Funny - it all took place over the last 7 or 8 years !!
If all this nonsense wasn't enough to deal with, now I don't even know which fecking toilet to use !!
You omitted to add, " I am incapable of original thought and had to copy and paste the above from social media"As a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
I am a fiscal & moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget & support myself and my family.
I went to Secondary School & have always held a job. I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was "advantaged”.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe. I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 50 making me a useless eater who doesn't understand Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat.
I think & I reason, and I doubt much of what "mainstream" media tells me, which makes me a "Right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I am proud of my heritage & our inclusive British culture, making me a xenophobe.
I believe in hard work, fair play, & fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort - not freedom of outcome or subsidies which makes me a borderline sociopath.
I believe in the defence & protection of Great Britain for & by all citizens, now making me a militant.
I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I must be an imperialist and a racist.
Please help me come to terms with the new me because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!
Funny - it all took place over the last 7 or 8 years !!
If all this nonsense wasn't enough to deal with, now I don't even know which fecking toilet to use !!
The top one yeah. The other one is paranoid bullshit.Brilliant post.
As a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
It is funny to see how threatened and defensive people get. My life’s great. I know that some people have it better than me for no good reason other than birth and there’s plenty of people worse off for the very same reason. Still doesn’t stop my life being happy and wonderful.The tip one yeah. The other one is paranoid bullshit.
They also didn't believe Brown, Miliband and show no sign of believing Starmer either. There's this weird narrative that 'the left' lost labour the election. The actual narrative is 'the left lost an election, but so did the centre and the centre left'No, they didn't believe Corbyn.
What are you on about now.The top one yeah. The other one is paranoid bullshit.
Just getting the point across.You omitted to add, " I am incapable of original thought and had to copy and paste the above from social media"
As a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
I am a fiscal & moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget & support myself and my family.
I went to Secondary School & have always held a job. I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was "advantaged”.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe. I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 50 making me a useless eater who doesn't understand Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat.
I think & I reason, and I doubt much of what "mainstream" media tells me, which makes me a "Right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I am proud of my heritage & our inclusive British culture, making me a xenophobe.
I believe in hard work, fair play, & fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort - not freedom of outcome or subsidies which makes me a borderline sociopath.
I believe in the defence & protection of Great Britain for & by all citizens, now making me a militant.
I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I must be an imperialist and a racist.
Please help me come to terms with the new me because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!
Funny - it all took place over the last 7 or 8 years !!
If all this nonsense wasn't enough to deal with, now I don't even know which fecking toilet to use !!
See Straightatthewall's post.What are you on about now.
I don’t think Rupert realises he’d accidentally quoted your football related post above.See Straightatthewall's post.
Me neither.I don’t think Rupert realises he’d accidentally quoted your football related post above.
Me neither.
Ah right, you appeared to acknowledge it here, when saying “The top one yeah” …. It looked like you meant that the post of yours that he quoted was “Brilliant”, but the post he quoted of Wizzerboys was paranoid bullshitThe top one yeah. The other one is paranoid bullshit.
You're digging too deep probably.Ah right, you appeared to acknowledge it here, when saying “The top one yeah” …. It looked like you meant that the post of yours that he quoted was “Brilliant”, but the post he quoted of Wizzerboys was paranoid bullshit
My Bad… though I’m mightily confused now
Oh i see, trying to hide behind somebody else now. You may not accept this voyeur and i do not really care but there is a significant body of thought that are a small group of bigots who push a distorted narrative that white people are bad. They are influential, small in number and only they know the poison in their hearts. I know black friends whom think woke etc is ridiculous.See Straightatthewall's post.
Do people still read newspapers?Because they believed the likes of the Daily Mail and the Sun, and still do.
Post of the year for meAs a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
I am a fiscal & moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget & support myself and my family.
I went to Secondary School & have always held a job. I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was "advantaged”.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe. I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 50 making me a useless eater who doesn't understand Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat.
I think & I reason, and I doubt much of what "mainstream" media tells me, which makes me a "Right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I am proud of my heritage & our inclusive British culture, making me a xenophobe.
I believe in hard work, fair play, & fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort - not freedom of outcome or subsidies which makes me a borderline sociopath.
I believe in the defence & protection of Great Britain for & by all citizens, now making me a militant.
I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I must be an imperialist and a racist.
Please help me come to terms with the new me because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!
Funny - it all took place over the last 7 or 8 years !!
If all this nonsense wasn't enough to deal with, now I don't even know which fecking toilet to use !!
Not hiding at all. Why type the same thing again? I'm white and don't feel like you seem to do.Oh i see, trying to hide behind somebody else now. You may not accept this voyeur and i do not really care but there is a significant body of thought that are a small group of bigots who push a distorted narrative that white people are bad. They are influential, small in number and only they know the poison in their hearts. I know black friends whom think woke etc is ridiculous.
Yet, whatever the personal opinions of the poster might be, it demonstrates an ignorance that is beyond belief….Post of the year for me
I think you should explain to the poster how he’s demonstrating ignorance.Yet, whatever the personal opinions of the poster might be, it demonstrates an ignorance that is beyond belief….
I've already done that...I think you should explain to the poster how he’s demonstrating ignorance.
I do not care about you and what you think.Not hiding at all. Why type the same thing again? I'm white and don't feel like you seem to do.
Well it resonated with me and I can assure you I’m not ignorant.I've already done that...
This is half the problem.... People are lashing out in anger, simply because they don't understand or are ignorant...
A simple example of this was the total uproar on the internet to the headline "Bacon Banned" and the subtext underneath was that Bacon had been banned in the UK in order to appease Muslims. Now let's face it, even the thickest racists on the planet ought to be able to work out that it is rather unlikely that Bacon had, in fact, been banned, yet still we had the ignorant fuckers up in arms about it.
The whole post is just riddled with ignorance and absolute nonsense....
That doesn't mean, that there aren't some valid concerns that we might reasonably hold in regard to issues surrounding race, religion, sexuality, gender etc... But lack of understanding, ignorance and the proliferation of the sort of shyte contained in that post doesn't do anything at all to advance the situation or make things better.
Literally millionsDo people still read newspapers?
How would you know?Well it resonated with me and I can assure you I’m not ignorant.
Has bacon actually been banned? Do some councils ignore the law of the land in favour of Sharia law?Well it resonated with me and I can assure you I’m not ignorant.
Very funnyHow would you know?
That's the problem though BFC x 3 if people dont agree with your views and agenda they are classed as ignorant.I've already done that...
This is half the problem.... People are lashing out in anger, simply because they don't understand or are ignorant...
A simple example of this was the total uproar on the internet to the headline "Bacon Banned" and the subtext underneath was that Bacon had been banned in the UK in order to appease Muslims. Now let's face it, even the thickest racists on the planet ought to be able to work out that it is rather unlikely that Bacon had, in fact, been banned, yet still we had the ignorant fuckers up in arms about it.
The whole post is just riddled with ignorance and absolute nonsense....
That doesn't mean, that there aren't some valid concerns that we might reasonably hold in regard to issues surrounding race, religion, sexuality, gender etc... But lack of understanding, ignorance and the proliferation of the sort of shyte contained in that post doesn't do anything at all to advance the situation or make things better.
Funny, but true....You only know what you know... I'll tell you what, let's go thorugh the post line by line...Very funny
As a man, I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person, but I was born white, into a two-parent household which now, whether I like it or not, makes me "Privileged", a racist & responsible for slavery.
I am a fiscal & moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist because I plan, budget & support myself and my family.
I went to Secondary School & have always held a job. I now find out that I am not here because I earned it, but because I was "advantaged”.
I am heterosexual, which now makes me a homophobe. I am not a Muslim, which now labels me as an infidel.
I am older than 50 making me a useless eater who doesn't understand Facebook, Instagram, or Snapchat.
I think & I reason, and I doubt much of what "mainstream" media tells me, which makes me a "Right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I am proud of my heritage & our inclusive British culture, making me a xenophobe.
I believe in hard work, fair play, & fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.
I believe our system guarantees freedom of effort - not freedom of outcome or subsidies which makes me a borderline sociopath.
I believe in the defence & protection of Great Britain for & by all citizens, now making me a militant.
I am proud of our flag, what it stands for and the many who died to let it fly, so I must be an imperialist and a racist.
Please help me come to terms with the new me because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!
Funny - it all took place over the last 7 or 8 years !!
If all this nonsense wasn't enough to deal with, now I don't even know which fecking toilet to use !!
Thanks for proving my pointFunny, but true....You only know what you know... I'll tell you what, let's go thorugh the post line by line...
Three points here..
1. Total ignorance and misrepresentation of the term 'White Privilege'
2. Total lie regarding Racism... Nobody has ever suggested white people from two-person households are racist and it's totally ridiculous to suggest they have
3. Likewise responsibility for slavery - More ill informed bollocks
And here we go again.... Please show me an example of anyone anywehere even criticising people for planning, budgeting and supporting themselves and their families, let alone refering to them as fascists.... Again it's about as ridiculous and wildly exhagerated a claim as you'll ever hear.. Complete snowflakery!!
Another misunderstanding of advantage and / or privilege... Just because we can recognise that some people are advantaged or disadvantaged in life does not mean we can't also recognise or apprciate personal achievement. It just means that some people might have it easier or harder than others, because of their circumstances.
We're back in ridiculous territory again... Let's just think about this one.... so because he's heterosexual that means that makes him a homophobe...Do you actually believe that? I mean really?
In regard to the term 'infidel', it's been used by various religions to refer to non-beleivers for millennia, not just the last few years....
Do you know where the term "Useless Eater" actually came from and what it referred to.... Irony and Ignorance in the same sentence...
Where do you even start with someone who genuinely believes that doubting much of what mainstream media tells them is some kind of badge of honour to be proud of.... Who do you seek your media from instead? People who tell you what you want to hear and reaffirm your beliefs?
Back again to the realms of ridiculousness.... Nobody has ever accused people of xenophobia simply for being proud to be British.... In fact we all regularly celebrate and revel in our culture and Britishness....
Does it? WTF does this even mean FFS... It's just absolute unintellligable / meaningless shyte
WTF is freedom of effort? I suspect the thick shit might have meant "Freedom or Equlity of Opportunity" and has mixed that up with the term 'Freedom from Effort'...
I don't think that anyone in the world ever has suggested that a belief in equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome is even slightly unreasonable, let alone makes someone "A borderline sociopath"....though it's also not unreasonable to think that some people might need to be given a leg up either....
It might make him militant in his own strange, imaginary and apparently quite paranoid world, but really??? Really?
It was only a matter of time I suppose, before the Flag came into the equation.... The flag that you will see over the next few weeks waved and hung and celebrated by us all during the Euro's. The issue with the Flag has never been the Flag itself, but instead the fact that racists have used the flag as a means to rally behind.... So if you are looking for someone to blame... Blame organisations like the NF and the EDL, who have sought to use our flag for all the wrong reasons.
And a finish with even more absolute drivel.... I mean why wouldn;t any of us know which toilet to use? Have we suddenly become thick as pig shit over the past 7-8 years... In fact don't answer that....
This isn't about views though is it?That's the problem though BFC x 3 if people dont agree with your views and agenda they are classed as ignorant.
It really isnt worth the time or effort as no matter what is posted there will always be a spin put onto it.
So let's all sit back and enjoy this new world that has been created
I don’t think he agrees with your postThanks for proving my point
It's just a shame there isn't something in his post to disagree with or agree with... That's the point really it's just utter meaningless shyteI don’t think he agrees with your post
Thanks for saving me the trouble. It's the kind of utter bollocks that makes you wonder whether the people who spout it grew up in a pond.Funny, but true....You only know what you know... I'll tell you what, let's go thorugh the post line by line...
Three points here..
1. Total ignorance and misrepresentation of the term 'White Privilege'
2. Total lie regarding Racism... Nobody has ever suggested white people from two-person households are racist and it's totally ridiculous to suggest they have
3. Likewise responsibility for slavery - More ill informed bollocks
And here we go again.... Please show me an example of anyone anywehere even criticising people for planning, budgeting and supporting themselves and their families, let alone refering to them as fascists.... Again it's about as ridiculous and wildly exhagerated a claim as you'll ever hear.. Complete snowflakery!!
Another misunderstanding of advantage and / or privilege... Just because we can recognise that some people are advantaged or disadvantaged in life does not mean we can't also recognise or apprciate personal achievement. It just means that some people might have it easier or harder than others, because of their circumstances.
We're back in ridiculous territory again... Let's just think about this one.... so because he's heterosexual that means that makes him a homophobe...Do you actually believe that? I mean really?
In regard to the term 'infidel', it's been used by various religions to refer to non-beleivers for millennia, not just the last few years....
Do you know where the term "Useless Eater" actually came from and what it referred to.... Irony and Ignorance in the same sentence...
Where do you even start with someone who genuinely believes that doubting much of what mainstream media tells them is some kind of badge of honour to be proud of.... Who do you seek your media from instead? People who tell you what you want to hear and reaffirm your beliefs?
Back again to the realms of ridiculousness.... Nobody has ever accused people of xenophobia simply for being proud to be British.... In fact we all regularly celebrate and revel in our culture and Britishness....
Does it? WTF does this even mean FFS... It's just absolute unintellligable / meaningless shyte
WTF is freedom of effort? I suspect the thick shit might have meant "Freedom or Equlity of Opportunity" and has mixed that up with the term 'Freedom from Effort'...
I don't think that anyone in the world ever has suggested that a belief in equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome is even slightly unreasonable, let alone makes someone "A borderline sociopath"....though it's also not unreasonable to think that some people might need to be given a leg up either....
It might make him militant in his own strange, imaginary and apparently quite paranoid world, but really??? Really?
It was only a matter of time I suppose, before the Flag came into the equation.... The flag that you will see over the next few weeks waved and hung and celebrated by us all during the Euro's. The issue with the Flag has never been the Flag itself, but instead the fact that racists have used the flag as a means to rally behind.... So if you are looking for someone to blame... Blame organisations like the NF and the EDL, who have sought to use our flag for all the wrong reasons.
And a finish with even more absolute drivel.... I mean why wouldn;t any of us know which toilet to use? Have we suddenly become thick as pig shit over the past 7-8 years... In fact don't answer that....
No they don't call it opinions...I think they call it opinions.
You might consider his post shit, ignorant etc, and some of it was no doubt tongue in cheek, but in the last few years, particularly the last couple, things have changed significantly, and not all for the better. I feel unable to say anything without thinking carefully first, am I upsetting someone, possibly, but I’m not sure, will I be in trouble, possibly, but I’m not sure. If I say I don’t see the point in taking the knee, or I don’t quite get all the gay pride stuff pushed in my face the whole time, or I just don’t understand gender neutral etc, I’ll be castigated because I’m supposed to comply with current trends. Frankly, I’m glad I’m of an age where it won’t matter much longerThis isn't about views though is it?
If you want to express properly considered concerns or views on a subject fine, but absolute inane drivel..? Where does that get anyone?
Do you actually believe that anyone in the world ever has accused anyone of being a racist just because they were white and came from a two parent family? Do you believe that shit?