Pandemic and illegal immigrants

tangerinenotorange

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Disturbing report in the papers that the UK now has an estimated 1.2 million illegal immigrants walking the streets, amounting to one quarter of the entire total in Europe. This figure is consistent with previous estimates of the illegal population in the UK by the Pew Research Centre in 2019, but the NAO acknowledged it had not attempted to verify the number. There is also evidence that French navy tugs are escorting immigrants to the UK. The immigrants tell UK officials they are from Iran and war-torn Afghanistan and Syria and that their lives are in danger and they are duly admitted and registered. These are in addition to the 1.2 million undetected.

Some will say that's OK because these are political refugees and we have a duty to let them in. However, the part of the news I found disturbing is not the numbers, but the fact that the Maltese government has recently revealed that 76% of illegal immigrants found by them tested positive for CV-19. I assume that those landing in the UK undetected join up with relatives already living in city centres and mix with their compatriots and the general public. Obviously, they will not disclose any virus symptoms for fear of being deported. If the numbers quoted are accurate this is going to render any test and trace regime worthless.

The govt has now set up a task force comprising the SBS, MI5 and GCHQ to identify the immigrants in the English Channel and give them assistance and medical help. This comes just days after Priti Patel asked French border chiefs to up their game as the number of Channel crossings was accelerating out of control.
 

CalmDown

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Disturbing report in the papers that the UK now has an estimated 1.2 million illegal immigrants walking the streets, amounting to one quarter of the entire total in Europe. This figure is consistent with previous estimates of the illegal population in the UK by the Pew Research Centre in 2019, but the NAO acknowledged it had not attempted to verify the number. There is also evidence that French navy tugs are escorting immigrants to the UK. The immigrants tell UK officials they are from Iran and war-torn Afghanistan and Syria and that their lives are in danger and they are duly admitted and registered. These are in addition to the 1.2 million undetected.

Some will say that's OK because these are political refugees and we have a duty to let them in. However, the part of the news I found disturbing is not the numbers, but the fact that the Maltese government has recently revealed that 76% of illegal immigrants found by them tested positive for CV-19. I assume that those landing in the UK undetected join up with relatives already living in city centres and mix with their compatriots and the general public. Obviously, they will not disclose any virus symptoms for fear of being deported. If the numbers quoted are accurate this is going to render any test and trace regime worthless.

The govt has now set up a task force comprising the SBS, MI5 and GCHQ to identify the immigrants in the English Channel and give them assistance and medical help. This comes just days after Priti Patel asked French border chiefs to up their game as the number of Channel crossings was accelerating out of control.
You’d never get a job as a reporter, for the BBC!
 

Giro

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Disturbing report in the papers that the UK now has an estimated 1.2 million illegal immigrants walking the streets, amounting to one quarter of the entire total in Europe. This figure is consistent with previous estimates of the illegal population in the UK by the Pew Research Centre in 2019, but the NAO acknowledged it had not attempted to verify the number. There is also evidence that French navy tugs are escorting immigrants to the UK. The immigrants tell UK officials they are from Iran and war-torn Afghanistan and Syria and that their lives are in danger and they are duly admitted and registered. These are in addition to the 1.2 million undetected.

Some will say that's OK because these are political refugees and we have a duty to let them in. However, the part of the news I found disturbing is not the numbers, but the fact that the Maltese government has recently revealed that 76% of illegal immigrants found by them tested positive for CV-19. I assume that those landing in the UK undetected join up with relatives already living in city centres and mix with their compatriots and the general public. Obviously, they will not disclose any virus symptoms for fear of being deported. If the numbers quoted are accurate this is going to render any test and trace regime worthless.

The govt has now set up a task force comprising the SBS, MI5 and GCHQ to identify the immigrants in the English Channel and give them assistance and medical help. This comes just days after Priti Patel asked French border chiefs to up their game as the number of Channel crossings was accelerating out of control.
I suggest you stop reading The Mail on Sunday.😊
 

B_Side_The_C_Side

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So...5 mins of Googling
The figures are made up and come from 2017 when Pew did the research and came up with the figures.
This is a BBC comment on them
And this is the 'Official' UK Gov site figures for illegal immigrants
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If you want to browse all 3.....maybe the O/P would like to as well.....best to know the full facts rather than what you read on Facebook.
 

tangerinenotorange

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Don't be such a nob B-side. There are dozens of different estimates of illegal immigrants in the UK, but no official count because the government doesn't want to know and wouldn't know where to find them even if it did. The point of the OP is not the number here but the possibility 76% of them are carrying the virus.
 

Pool4eva

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Nonsense, just another racist article🙁
The French have no legal right to stop anyone who wants to set off from France and go for a sail into the English channel, but if the tides and currents take them out of French territorial waters (beyond 12 miles from the french coast) and into International waters, then the French navy has no jurisdiction. But if the immigrants then stray into our territorial waters, (within 12 miles of our coast) we it is us that has jurisdiction, we can stop them if we want to, But we obviously choose to let them in, - maybe we are still short of fruit pickers
 

Wizaard

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Don't be such a nob B-side. There are dozens of different estimates of illegal immigrants in the UK, but no official count because the government doesn't want to know and wouldn't know where to find them even if it did. The point of the OP is not the number here but the possibility 76% of them are carrying the virus.
76% with the virus when 2% is a high end total for any location seems like a made up stat to me.
 

CalmDown

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Poster posts links to facts and figures on an immigration related topic.

Posters immediately gets called racist, by the usual suspects who troll this politics forum.

That’s the problem with this type of topic now.
It’s almost impossible to raise and attempt to debate. Without getting shouted down and accused of racism - not just by the usual suspects on here, in all walks of life too.
 

Tangojoe

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What a strange bunch of posters we have on here. The OP warns about the risk of the spread of infection from unregistered immigrants because statistics show that in the Med immigrants are carrying the virus. As far as I can see he hasn't even given an opinion and he gets called a racist and a liar by the usual mob who can't grasp the concept of debate. The points made seem valid to me - lack of control over immigration, high level of infection likely and French naval assistance for immigrants to reach the UK.
 

Plumbs

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We had this at the turn of the last century when Woolwich Arsenal and the Royal Engineers came up on the Flying Scotsman* for some pre-season friendlies at Raikes Hall Gardens.

They had that flu that was going around and it spread like wildfire-not just the UK but all the over the world.

*edit:might have been Stevensons Rocket
 

1966_and_all_that

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Disturbing report in the papers that the UK now has an estimated 1.2 million illegal immigrants walking the streets, amounting to one quarter of the entire total in Europe. This figure is consistent with previous estimates of the illegal population in the UK by the Pew Research Centre in 2019, but the NAO acknowledged it had not attempted to verify the number. There is also evidence that French navy tugs are escorting immigrants to the UK. The immigrants tell UK officials they are from Iran and war-torn Afghanistan and Syria and that their lives are in danger and they are duly admitted and registered. These are in addition to the 1.2 million undetected.

Some will say that's OK because these are political refugees and we have a duty to let them in. However, the part of the news I found disturbing is not the numbers, but the fact that the Maltese government has recently revealed that 76% of illegal immigrants found by them tested positive for CV-19. I assume that those landing in the UK undetected join up with relatives already living in city centres and mix with their compatriots and the general public. Obviously, they will not disclose any virus symptoms for fear of being deported. If the numbers quoted are accurate this is going to render any test and trace regime worthless.

The govt has now set up a task force comprising the SBS, MI5 and GCHQ to identify the immigrants in the English Channel and give them assistance and medical help. This comes just days after Priti Patel asked French border chiefs to up their game as the number of Channel crossings was accelerating out of control.
What is your source for your post?
 
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