Phil Foden - best current English midfielder?

Wizzerboy

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Absolutely and by the way, he's still only 20!!
Hopefully by the time he reaches his prime he can be mentioned in the same breath as Gerrard, Gazza and Scholes (trying to keep it to the last 15 years or so.)
 

BFC_53

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He's very good indeed. If he continues to develop over the next two years, England could genuinely have one of the best midfielders in the world.
 

poolseasider

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He's more of an attacking midfield than your standard midfielder so who's he competing with defo not Henderson or Rice holding,Barkley/Maddison/Mount who you'd class more in the number 10 role or does he compete with Rashford,Sterling or Sancho for wide of Kane in the England set up?
Brilliant player all the same.
 

Brazil

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Yes. He's top, top draw. He should be a shoe - in for England for years to come, injuries and form permitting. I remember watching him in the under 17s(?)WC which England won. I remember thinking, this boy is a player.
top drawer!!
 

traffordtang

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Best by a country mile. He would be forgiven for being a bit overwhelmed by his big name teammates but his composure is outstanding and he could easily become the biggest name of all
 

gjr69

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Nope Grealish is the best. Foden and Maddison are both excellent though.
I hope Southgate doesn't squander the current pool of talent.
Choose 2 or 3 from Foden, Grealish, Maddison, Sterling, with Kane as a focal point, makes us very potent.
I think Rice is improving for the deeper midfield role and I think Barclay is looking good at Villa.
I'm sure we can put a half decent back 4 together out of what's available and stick Pope in goals.
Looking quite good, just not sure about the manager.
 

20togo

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I hope Southgate doesn't squander the current pool of talent.
Choose 2 or 3 from Foden, Grealish, Maddison, Sterling, with Kane as a focal point, makes us very potent.
I think Rice is improving for the deeper midfield role and I think Barclay is looking good at Villa.
I'm sure we can put a half decent back 4 together out of what's available and stick Pope in goals.
Looking quite good, just not sure about the manager.
I'm afraid I'm not convinced by Rice at International level yet. Agree though, we are looking good going forward especially in the technical ability areas which is something we've struggled with for a long time. Defence still needs some work too.
 

Eternaloptimist

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Beside his great footballing ability he seems a level headed, down to earth lad.
Can see no reason he shouldn’t have a great England career.
 

Mark_GT

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He didn't when he was in Iceland. 😉
True 20s but I don't think (hope, maybe🤞) that he'll become a repeat offender in the halfwit stakes like Grealish. Football-wise I just think Foden has more to offer, particularly goals from midfield and is less lightweight than Grealish, who I agree is a fantastic talent though.
 
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Macseasider

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Nope Grealish is the best. Foden and Maddison are both excellent though.
Ha ha!

Grealish is a cheating, diving, Peaky Blinder wannabe show pony as you well know. Never an England player. Why do you think the top teams aren't interested and Gareth isn't convinced to play him?
 

20togo

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Ha ha!

Grealish is a cheating, diving, Peaky Blinder wannabe show pony as you well know. Never an England player. Why do you think the top teams aren't interested and Gareth isn't convinced to play him?
Grealish is currently a regular in the England team so that shows how much you know, which to be fair was never really much. You just fucked up with your statement that he's a Championship player at best. I take it you're on the pop again.
 

Fast Fourier Transformati

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Ha ha!

Grealish is a cheating, diving, Peaky Blinder wannabe show pony as you well know. Never an England player. Why do you think the top teams aren't interested and Gareth isn't convinced to play him?
That is probably the worst football related post I've ever read on here. If you have the slightest knowledge about football (which you obviously don't) you would realise that he (& Foden) are the most exciting and creative footballers England has had since Paul Gascoigne. Typical response from a jealous Jock 😀
 

Mark_GT

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Put "the big man" up front for England and it wouldn't matter which of these young pups was behind him, those defences would be quaking in their boots 👍
 

Macseasider

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That is probably the worst football related post I've ever read on here. If you have the slightest knowledge about football (which you obviously don't) you would realise that he (& Foden) are the most exciting and creative footballers England has had since Paul Gascoigne. Typical response from a jealous Jock 😀

You think Grealish isn't cheat? And he has a good haircut? And he is effective in the Premier League? And none of the top teams have ever gone near him? Mmmmmm.

PS - English mate. Born in the Vic. Were you? Grow up.
 

Macseasider

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Grealish is currently a regular in the England team so that shows how much you know, which to be fair was never really much. You just fucked up with your statement that he's a Championship player at best. I take it you're on the pop again.

You never win an argument with me coming up with the same dull old lines.

Take your pills. They will help you calm down. I do worry about you. But it's nice to see you posting about football for a change rather than politics.
 

20togo

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1:48 am. You must have had a skinful. You stated that Grealish is a Championship player at best. Clearly the rest of the country and the people whose opinions count think differently. And the big clubs have shown plenty of interest in him and still do. I suppose Shearer and Le Tissier were crap in your eyes as they too never played for a big club. Stick to Scottish football Mac. Stick to the second best team in Scottish football. That's your level.
 
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Ruperthoop

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Foden has wonderful close control and i love the way he just ghosts past defenders. If he continues to improve and can be fortunate with injuries i believe he will be the the best English player in the modern era, better than Grealish, Charlton and Gazza.
 

Wizaard

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I'm afraid I'm not convinced by Rice at International level yet. Agree though, we are looking good going forward especially in the technical ability areas which is something we've struggled with for a long time. Defence still needs some work too.
Stop doing down England players and the manager. You're always the same 😉
 

20togo

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Foden should always be in the side ahead of Mount , Foden playing along side Grealish & Stirling with Kane as CF would be some attacking force !
Agree. Mount is a "safe" player. Sterling is an interesting one. No doubt he's massively improved from the player that first burst onto the scene but I really do think that some of these current players we are talking about are way ahead of him technically.
 

20togo

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True 20s but I don't think (hope, maybe🤞) that he'll become a repeat offender in the halfwit stakes like Grealish. Football-wise I just think Foden has more to offer, particularly goals from midfield and is less lightweight than Grealish, who I agree is a fantastic talent though.
Sorry Mark, I missed this post of yours as I first read the pile of bull that Mac had written.
Yep, I hope Foden has learned his lesson. Comparing them both at this point in time I think Grealish offers more to the team. He'll create more for others than Foden does. On the opposite side of the coin Foden knows where to be in and around the box. He's a good reader of what's gonna happen. He'll run beyond the front man and consequently he's likely to get more of the tap in type of goals. He's got a natural instinct of where to be. He's more of a forward than Grealish is. Grealish could play any midfield role which I don't think Foden could. Grealish wants to be involved in everything, he goes looking for the ball,, Foden will wait for himself to be brought into the game.
 

gjr69

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Sorry Mark, I missed this post of yours as I first read the pile of bull that Mac had written.
Yep, I hope Foden has learned his lesson. Comparing them both at this point in time I think Grealish offers more to the team. He'll create more for others than Foden does. On the opposite side of the coin Foden knows where to be in and around the box. He's a good reader of what's gonna happen. He'll run beyond the front man and consequently he's likely to get more of the tap in type of goals. He's got a natural instinct of where to be. He's more of a forward than Grealish is. Grealish could play any midfield role which I don't think Foden could. Grealish wants to be involved in everything, he goes looking for the ball,, Foden will wait for himself to be brought into the game.
Grealish and Foden would bring the best out of each other. One picks out and plays the pass, the other makes the run and provides the finish.
 

Mark_GT

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Good points 20s. I think they both have to play for us to have a genuine shot this summer. Defemce reaims my biggest worry. I can't see us winning the big games one nil so we'll need to be creative and have goals throughout the team.
 

I bleed Tangerine

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One player alot are sleeping on this season is Maddison. Think he was injured early on in the season, but he has come back and is flying. 4 goals in 4 games and has been at the heart of most of the good things Leicester have done recently. Got to be above Mount in the pecking order for me. I would say Grealish is out best MF right now, but Maddison and Foden are hard to separate for me. I do think that Foden will go on and become out best MF in the future though. Just my opinion though.
 

gjr69

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We can throw Rashford and Greenwood into England's attacking mix as well, Southgate has so many options!!
 
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