PKE away same allocation as last season

I remember a game in 2000 I think where they had the whole east paddock and Kop. Think the attendance was still only about 9500, was more of them than us and they still generated f all atmosphere.

Anyway, think we'll beat them at home and draw 0-0 at the seat face arena.
 
These restrictions make both clubs look smalltime.
Why can't the 2 owners speak to each other and sort it out?
 
Fargo99 said:
These restrictions make both clubs look smalltime.
Why can't the 2 owners speak to each other and sort it out?
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I think it’s more to do with the police rather than both clubs. If police arnt happy with the fans they will do early kick offs for public safety and smaller away allocations
We’ve never had many problems with Sunderland. Derby. Boro etc that’s why they get 4K tickets
 
JJpool said:
Yeah people have said the same about other casual fans, even with only us as their club, the price in the climate is putting people off.

Your first game is effectively 40 quid, if they go the membership route, which many won't get enough value out of so won't.

If not its 30 and thats not attractive especially right now, its a double whammy of bad, 30 without a cost of living would put people off.
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This thread once again comes back to football finances. The next couple of years will probably be very challenging for many people and choices will have to be made when it comes to spending disposable income and the amount you have.
£30 plus travel, food and beer costs will be a significant amount for many.
Football in general needs to wind player wages right back, the vast majority of them are massively over paid, if clubs don't sort out the finances then there will be some casualties.
Probably over simplifying but if player wages were cut by a third and the ticket price was reduced to £20, crowds would be much healthier and footballers would still be well paid.
 
'Point blankly refused by Blackpool who want to "sell as many tickets as possible to their own fans".

They make out like their supporters should get priority over ours and we should give them the whole of the East.

Thick as pig shit the lot of them.

They have to be the thickest bunch of supporters in the football league. Look stupid, talk stupid and cant grasp the concept of anything no matter how many times you try to drum it into their thick skulls.
 
FY5_Seasider said:
'Point blankly refused by Blackpool who want to "sell as many tickets as possible to their own fans".

They make out like their supporters should get priority over ours and we should give them the whole of the East.

Thick as pig shit the lot of them.

They have to be the thickest bunch of supporters in the football league. Look stupid, talk stupid and cant grasp the concept of anything no matter how many times you try to drum it into their thick skulls.
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Not like they would be changing from last season with their fans in the Kop, no way.

So just what did they have to offer us to lock out our own fans? Nothing.

Bunch of thickos who expect the same as Blackburn but the majority of pool fans don't give 2 hoots about Blackburn, pne is the derby so the demand is far bigger. Plus that was a weeknight on sky.

Of course we'll prioritise our own fans, especially after how they acted last time.

It's just getting daft this.
 
Halifax71 said:
Might have already been posted.
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Good. No club would ever prioritise away fans over home fans, and nor should we ever contemplate it regardless of how it affects away allocation.

Once we have a completed stadium their allocation will probably increase, but until then it's all we can offer. What they do is up to them. This season with their increased crowds it probably makes perfect sense for them to restrict our allocation and I've no problem with that at all.
 
BFC_53 said:
Good. No club would ever prioritise away fans over home fans, and nor should we ever contemplate it regardless of how it affects away allocation.

Once we have a completed stadium their allocation will probably increase, but until then it's all we can offer. What they do is up to them. This season with their increased crowds it probably makes perfect sense for them to restrict our allocation and I've no problem with that at all.
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Its quite funny they gave Burnley the whole stand, yet Burnley will give them half the cricket stand as they'll be prioritising their own fans.

Yet when we do it suddenly it requires a retaliation.

Its really not difficult, if pne fans go past the media section and into the the NE, our fans cannot occupy any of it, limiting us to 10.5k home fans in the 3 sides, excluding hospitality.

No club in its right mind would do this when home demand was shown to be there.

It’s not like there are games from our club, they just have a simple decision between our fans and away fans, an obvious choice.

Whereas they are just cutting ours out of spite, they may fill enough to make it so we would have been reduced anyway, but they'd do it regardless, because they can't seem to comprehend why they get treated differently to Blackburn. The fact they keep bringing it up is worrying for their mental state.

Either being dumb or playing games, there's no way you'd try and compare us vs Blackburn on a weeknight on sky to us vs our main and in many eyes only rival vs PNE.

There's far more demand for the PNE game and hence with our small stadium and limited east, the demand is now there so its a simple choice.

Same would happen if we played anyone in the league and home demand was there, away fans would only get the one side.

If that happens are other clubs going to kick off too?

"Blackburn got nearly the full stand, so why in this playoff game do you only give us half" Said nobody ever.
 
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Good. No club would ever prioritise away fans over home fans, and nor should we ever contemplate it regardless of how it affects away allocation.

Once we have a completed stadium their allocation will probably increase, but until then it's all we can offer. What they do is up to them. This season with their increased crowds it probably makes perfect sense for them to restrict our allocation and I've no problem with that at all.
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Be interesting to see if we have more than 800 in the east.
 
Mcewans Mullet said:
That line saying we will get the minimum 10% says to me we should reduce their allocation further to 2000

I'd they want to play this 💩 then we should go all out to do exactly what they are doing - giving us the minimum.
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Well as soon as they said that we could have gone down to 1661 or whatever it is.

Thats 10% of capacity.

However the club have showed they aren't reducing it out of spite, they may as well give them the away end they are in.

If they give them any on the other side it becomes unusable for us.
 
Halifax71 said:
Be interesting to see if we have more than 800 in the east.
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Yes agree, and actually it should become obvious whether we're going to need them at a point where it might still be possible to give them to away fans. If we don't need them then I have no issue increasing their allocation, I just think if there's any chance we might sell them then we need to encourage Blackpool folk to the ground, even if it's just once or twice a season.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Shame these fans of ours who will want Nobber tickets don’t attend the other 22 home games.
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Many will have been to some, the big games probably see the majority of exiles attend, most casuals, people with work usually who then book it off all come together and attend. Many of these people would pick and choose other games therefore not all attend at once, apart from the big games.

Its not the same 10k each week.

This is just how big games work, as a club we have to be able to accommodate them or they may as well give up trying to grow the fanbase.
 
I seem to remember there was pandemoniumon here last season because it took us ages to sell our small allocation, be much better to have more home fans in our ground. Mind you, I agree with Jaffa, why are there so many extra for this game who don’t go to others?

I’d much prefer the club did some £20 games after Christmas for home supporters and some other deals to get more in who may become regulars.
 
The club have made a couple of bizarre decisions this season this being the latest one. Even from a financial point of view giving the knobers the same as Blackburn would have generated more cash as they will bring more than we can fill it. And as now we only get 10% away, less support for the team and in all honesty a bit of a kick in the teeth to us fans. Very poor form and unfortunately does make us look a bit tinpot. 😔😔😔
 
Seasider1 said:
The club have made a couple of bizarre decisions this season this being the latest one. Even from a financial point of view giving the knobers the same as Blackburn would have generated more cash as they will bring more than we can fill it. And as now we only get 10% away, less support for the team and in all honesty a bit of a kick in the teeth to us fans. Very poor form and unfortunately does make us look a bit tinpot. 😔😔😔
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We will sell out the home end,and was only gonna get the same amount as last year away 🙄
 
Leyland bfc said:
We will sell out the home end,and was only gonna get the same amount as last year away 🙄
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We didn't last season, and had we given them the same as Blackburn would have got more in return. As said a bizarre decision and bad form from our club.
 
Seasider1 said:
We didn't last season, and had we given them the same as Blackburn would have got more in return. As said a bizarre decision and bad form from our club.
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We sold out last year, they only made another 800 available for the east.
 
Leyland bfc said:
It’s called segregation
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Yep, completely ott but not a lot we could do about that.

Now, having seen other clubs have just a line of stewards in between fans, I hope the club puts its foot down this season, there's no reason for 2 full blocks worth.

They should make the 3 blocks available in full, leaving 1 on the right for segregation, even thats ott but I'd take that.
 
JJpool said:
Yep, completely ott but not a lot we could do about that.

Now, having seen other clubs have just a line of stewards in between fans, I hope the club puts its foot down this season, there's no reason for 2 full blocks worth.

They should make the 3 blocks available in full, leaving 1 on the right for segregation, even thats ott but I'd take that.
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Yep it’s a joke to be fair mate,spot on👍
 
Blame Peter Ridsdale for the ticket shambles. SS explained to him before the home game that we had limited capacity and that demand meant that we could use the extra seats in the East. He got narky and then played his publicity stunt tit for tat card. The guy is a total **.
 
Just had a quick look over there and this sums up the level of delusion in some and complete misunderstanding.

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"Purposely leaving a load of empty seats in the east stand just to spite us"

This just shows what we're dealing with, completely deluded on the subject.

Erm, no we're not just leaving empty seats. Last time there was only 800 pool fans allowed in on police advice, the rest had to be left empty for segregation. Why would our club just stop selling when there was still demand.

Same this time however I hope and expect more of it to be available to home fans as the segregation was ridiculous last time.

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"They haven't in other words done it out of spite towards us"

Neither have we, we don't sell enough in other games to occupy the east, clearly PNE is the big derby, so it makes perfect sense that when that demand is there we are well within our right to then use that side of the east.

It’s really simple.

Just because other teams got it doesn't mean shit, the home demand wasn't there.

If it was there against any of the other teams, they wouldn't get the full 2 ends either.

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"The annoying thing is when other teams get 4000 at bombsite Road but we get this allocation"

As stated already, it's about home demand.

If its not there of course teams have been getting the other side of the east. Home demand was there for the PNE game, because its our main derby, no one cares much for the others.

Its really that simple yet why can't they grasp this? It's really not that hard is it.
 
JJpool said:
Just had a quick look over there and this sums up the level of delusion in some and complete misunderstanding.

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"Purposely leaving a load of empty seats in the east stand just to spite us"

This just shows what we're dealing with, completely deluded on the subject.

Erm, no we're not just leaving empty seats. Last time there was only 800 pool fans allowed in on police advice, the rest had to be left empty for segregation. Why would our club just stop selling when there was still demand.

Same this time however I hope and expect more of it to be available to home fans as the segregation was ridiculous last time.

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"They haven't in other words done it out of spite towards us"

Neither have we, we don't sell enough in other games to occupy the east, clearly PNE is the big derby, so it makes perfect sense that when that demand is there we are well within our right to then use that side of the east.

It’s really simple.

Just because other teams got it doesn't mean shit, the home demand wasn't there.

If it was there against any of the other teams, they wouldn't get the full 2 ends either.

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"The annoying thing is when other teams get 4000 at bombsite Road but we get this allocation"

As stated already, it's about home demand.

If its not there of course teams have been getting the other side of the east. Home demand was there for the PNE game, because its our main derby, no one cares much for the others.

Its really that simple yet why can't they grasp this? It's really not that hard is it.
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Will be interesting to see what happens if there isn’t the same demand as last year in the home ends, I can’t see them being given more even if it doesn’t sell out.
 
Gary said:
Will be interesting to see what happens if there isn’t the same demand as last year in the home ends, I can’t see them being given more even if it doesn’t sell out.
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Me neither,they won’t have there fans exiting by the north no chance,and that’s wot would need to happen
 
JJpool said:
Well as soon as we do it means no home fans in the NE side.

We do have demand to sell 3 sides and the east, at least in part.

People want the club to grow, these are exactly the games that do it.

They may only be more casual fans, exiles etc but the more they attend the more likely they come more often.

For these games it's essential to be able to accommodate our fans.

To limit us to the 3 sides which is10.5k and then hospitality would be absolutely pitiful.
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So did we see an uplift in attendances this season based on reducing the Nobbers allocation last season ? 🤔....No we havnt, therefore your rationale is bollox
 
Gary said:
Will be interesting to see what happens if there isn’t the same demand as last year in the home ends, I can’t see them being given more even if it doesn’t sell out.
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Well if the 3 sides sell out it doesn't matter how many more we sell as once our fans are in the east thats it.

Despite high price, cost of living, I'd still be incredibly disappointed if we didn't sell out the 3 sides minimum.
 
Let's be real, they didn't add anything to the atmosphere last year so an extra 1,200 of the pricks won't make a difference.

They made more noise when there was 1,200 of them in the Gene Kelly open stand before kick off than they did the entire 90 minutes last year.
 
Tangerine Dream said:
So did we see an uplift in attendances this season based on reducing the Nobbers allocation last season ? 🤔....No we havnt, therefore your rationale is bollox
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We did have some bigger attendances later in the season.

No way of knowing who came to what game and decided to come again.

But its basic common sense that if the club is to grow it has to be able to accommodate the fans who can't go all the time, who work, casuals etc.

If were stuck with the 3 sides its very limiting.

Really weird angle wanting the nobbers to have more and lock out pool fans, no matter how casual they are.

All the regular who go to any amount of away games will get them at their place.
 
SeasideKurt said:
Let's be real, they didn't add anything to the atmosphere last year so an extra 1,200 of the pricks won't make a difference.

They made more noise when there was 1,200 of them in the Gene Kelly open stand before kick off than they did the entire 90 minutes last year.
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But the 800 we had in the east did add to the atmosphere for us, so definitely worth having them there, hopefully even more allowed in.
 
It is what it is. If we don’t sell out it’s tuff. The police don’t want Preston having anymore tickets simple as
 
Fuck them. We will sell them to our own fans it’s simple.

I didn’t go to Blackburn on a weeknight because I’m London based but the PNE fixture is the first one I look for and will come back to see family and mates for a week. We’ll obviously have more demand for this game over others.

I won’t bother with Deepdale again, just not that bothered I’ve been loads of times so I’ll hand over to the younger guys. I would much rather go to the home game.
 
BFC_53 said:
Good. No club would ever prioritise away fans over home fans, and nor should we ever contemplate it regardless of how it affects away allocation.

Once we have a completed our stadium their allocation will probably increase, but until then it's all we can offer. What they do is up to them. This season with their increased crowds it probably makes perfect sense for them to restrict our allocation and I've no problem with that at all.
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I’ll believe this when I see it.
 
BFC_53 said:
Yes, unfortunately when you have an owner asset stripping the club instead of putting £12m a year in, things like this can be quite difficult and take a while.
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What I mean is given building costs are going up, the cost of steel due to the Russian War, will have put the cost to build your new stand will have gone up by between 25% - 50% IMHO. Given this the choice for SS will have to be a) go ahead with your new stand, or b) make money available for fresh signings but not both a) and b).
 
JJpool said:
There is no tit for tat from us, the club are simply allowing our home fans to fill it, its the only game we have demand for more than 3 sides currently.
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It was weird Nast year I thought it sold out but attendance was something like 14,500. Doubt we will sell this many like last year as we are pretty shit this time round.
 
Norfolk White said:
What I mean is given building costs are going up, the cost of steel due to the Russian War, will have put the cost to build your new stand will have gone up by between 25% - 50% IMHO. Given this the choice for SS will have to be a) go ahead with your new stand, or b) make money available for fresh signings but not both a) and b).
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When's your top level of the hospitality in invincibles being finished?
 
RP North Stand said:
It was weird Nast year I thought it sold out but attendance was something like 14,500. Doubt we will sell this many like last year as we are pretty shit this time round.
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It was a sell out but had ridiculous segregation from police advice.

No reason to do that again given the clubs we've played have had fans next to each other.

We've definitely seen a downward trend with the poor ish feeling summer, high costs and cost of living. But this game might still do well.

If people were saving and picking and choosing, then this game would be it.
 
Norfolk White said:
What I mean is given building costs are going up, the cost of steel due to the Russian War, will have put the cost to build your new stand will have gone up by between 25% - 50% IMHO. Given this the choice for SS will have to be a) go ahead with your new stand, or b) make money available for fresh signings but not both a) and b).
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I see, you're right but the earliest it will even start will be a couple of years I suspect because it's dependent on the redevelopment of the surrounding area by the council. The money has been allocated from government for that and has an expiry on it so it can't be too far off if they're to keep the funding.
 
BFC_53 said:
I see, you're right but the earliest it will even start will be a couple of years I suspect because it's dependent on the redevelopment of the surrounding area by the council. The money has been allocated from government for that and has an expiry on it so it can't be too far off if they're to keep the funding.
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Maybe like Boris said, we will build back in a more feminine way?

Maybe we will not use steel, we'll use some environmentally friendly material, this is 2022.... a fairer material, gender neutral material maybe?
 
We8PNE said:
That's highly unlikely.

You don't even attend games at Dumpdale.
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If we build a stand, this man will confirm it for us all, of that I have no doubt.

He might not attend their games, but he does watch select clips of us and listens for a lull in the atmosphere to pounce on. He uses that to prove how poor the atmosphere is for the rest of the 98 minutes that he didn't see.
 
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