Playing Jerry in the u23 match

Zero chemistry with Madine 😄😄😄

I suggest you watch the Nobbers match at Bloomfield Rd and see how the second goal was scored.
I'm sure it was a flick on from Gaz goals that put JY through to make Bowlers goal against Stoke.
The fact is they haven't played together often enough
A very dangerous partnership and the only one that has really worked for us this season. I think they enjoy the partnership and Jerry does read what Gaz is doing. Preston and Blackburn at home and Huddersfield away spring to mind.
 
Zero chemistry with Madine 😄😄😄

I suggest you watch the Nobbers match at Bloomfield Rd and see how the second goal was scored.
I'm sure it was a flick on from Gaz goals that put JY through to make Bowlers goal against Stoke.
The fact is they haven't played together often enough
2 examples in the 40+ games we've played this season. On fire!
 
Jerry Yates is a confidence player, no doubt about that, he need minute’s and has a goal. Let’s just see.
 
A slap in the face to a class striker and a player who was so instrumental in getting us promoted. I have no idea what is going on in Critch’s head, but for me he’s managed the situation badly. You just don’t do this sort of thing to a player who has done so much since joining the club.

His focus on lumping it to a big man has meant that we have not made the most of the best all round striker we’ve had in a decade.

Some will point to us being safe and generally I agree, but I’d also argue that at times we’ve been very negative in our approach, particularly when we have been safe from relegation for a long time.

Some will also say today is game time for Jerry, but I’d argue that should certainly be in the first team.

Let’s be clear, we’ve seen the class Jerry has in the Championship. Can anyone remember when he last missed a sitter, I can’t. Let’s also be clear that we’d have seen Jerry in full flow had we set up differently at times.

I fear we’ll lose Jerry and personally I be royally peed off with Critch if that happens. The lad was loving being here, but you can see his confidence has been destroyed.

I’m a bit confused by Critch’s approach, bearing in mind his background at Liverpool. Personally, I think he’s still hunting for the way his team should play, but that’s part of gaining experience I suppose. The Championship requires a different approach, but class players should be playing. I do not see how Gaz gets a start every game and I don’t believe we need his physicality every match.

Big test for Critch next season, we’ll see just how good he is. He can start by being consistent after games, win, lose or draw. I found his chest pumping and love heart signs embarrassing at Blackburn, after a draw and when he did little after losing at Preston and other matches.

Not bashing him, I think he’s been brilliant for us, just that the honeymoon period is over.
A very naive post from somebody who cannot see the bigger picture...
 
A couple of months ago in walk about in town actually and then at Cheltenham festival pissed out his brain acting like a nob to women.
So what!
He's young and daft, letting his hair down when he's not at work

I take it you've never made a mistake in life?
 
Clubs must play 6 players from the first team squad.
So why has this ‘Critch has insulted Jerry Yates’ post/nonsense come from - if you have to play half a first team he should play (assumed he fits the age criteria)
We had several experienced first teamers playing today
 
I’ve not made myself clear and my posts previously have mentioned specifically Gaz and Jerry working well together. I like big Gaz, but he’s not first name on the sheet. We need a plan B and we’ve become a bit predictable.
I agree with the sentiment of your posts Timperley but I disagree regarding Madine. Take him out and front to back we are a weaker unit. He's the classic player you see the benefits of when he is not playing. As for Jerry, he has clearly crossed a line somewhere for Critchley. The sign of a good manager is to bring that player back into the fold. Jerry is now part of our history and has lots to offer for the future, for us or for someone else. I really hope it's for us.
 
It is a bit of a strange one as the Senior Cup isn't technically a youth competition. It would traditionally be a reserves fixture but no-one has a ressies team anymore.

I don't know if it's my eyes deceiving me, but Jerry looks like he is carrying a bit too much weight. It looked particularly the case against Forest. It could just be a fitness thing.

Two other points with Jerry atm for me:

He looks short of confidence.
He has zero chemistry with Madine.
He has, in the past, had outstanding chemistry with Madine. The Preston goal. The whole Yorke and Cole stuff last year.

I don't know what's up with Jezza. He plays well outside the box and in build up but he doesn't seem to have the deadly instinct he had.

He had a wretched patch when he first signed. It's like he's in the same trough again. He doesn't seem to back himself to score at the moment. That's what he was like at the beginning of last year. Like he'd rather lay it off than miss again.

He'll score sooner or later and be off on a run again or... he won't.
 
I’ve not made myself clear and my posts previously have mentioned specifically Gaz and Jerry working well together. I like big Gaz, but he’s not first name on the sheet. We need a plan B and we’ve become a bit predictable.
Madine was plan B because plan A wasn't working. Neither of the other strikers has especially excelled at being up front on their own bar from the odd time and Carey has been on the pitch when they gave. Playing 442 with two little lads isn't going to work with the midfield we have.

I don't disagree tbh, but I don't think we have what I suppose must be plan C amongst the playing staff yet.

The more direct style has worked. Will it continue to work? I doubt it's what Critch has planned. He is, however, a pragmatic manager and Madine has been a very useful player for us in that he hardly ever struggles to influence a game. It might be a bit crude, but he usually unsettles a defence.

Without him, we've seen a number of games where Jerry and to a lesser extent Lavery have literally barely touched the ball.

Get some class in midfield and that might change.
 
We got Yates to sign a four year contract in July last year, after we knew we'd be playing Championship football. That really doesn't suggest that the club or manager don't rate him, or don't believe he'll be good enough for this league. That's not to say we would've known if he could play at this level - he wasn't tried and tested in the championship.
But the point is, I think his lack of game time is down to one thing - we don't have the players in midfield that enable us to play to his strengths. I reckon we'll see much more of him next season when Carey, Anderson and hopefully another ball playing attacking midfielder will provide him the service he needs. Since the aforementioned two players have been out, we've played quite a direct game which doesn't suit him. I don't think it's anything more than that tbh. I also don't agree that he's been struggling as badly as suggested on the occasions that he's played - no he hasn't been scoring regularly, but he has been getting assists. He set up CJ against Bristol, he set up Bowler against Stoke. He is making contributions in games and affecting the results. He's very much a team player.
 
A slap in the face to a class striker and a player who was so instrumental in getting us promoted. I have no idea what is going on in Critch’s head, but for me he’s managed the situation badly. You just don’t do this sort of thing to a player who has done so much since joining the club.

His focus on lumping it to a big man has meant that we have not made the most of the best all round striker we’ve had in a decade.

Some will point to us being safe and generally I agree, but I’d also argue that at times we’ve been very negative in our approach, particularly when we have been safe from relegation for a long time.

Some will also say today is game time for Jerry, but I’d argue that should certainly be in the first team.

Let’s be clear, we’ve seen the class Jerry has in the Championship. Can anyone remember when he last missed a sitter, I can’t. Let’s also be clear that we’d have seen Jerry in full flow had we set up differently at times.

I fear we’ll lose Jerry and personally I be royally peed off with Critch if that happens. The lad was loving being here, but you can see his confidence has been destroyed.

I’m a bit confused by Critch’s approach, bearing in mind his background at Liverpool. Personally, I think he’s still hunting for the way his team should play, but that’s part of gaining experience I suppose. The Championship requires a different approach, but class players should be playing. I do not see how Gaz gets a start every game and I don’t believe we need his physicality every match.

Big test for Critch next season, we’ll see just how good he is. He can start by being consistent after games, win, lose or draw. I found his chest pumping and love heart signs embarrassing at Blackburn, after a draw and when he did little after losing at Preston and other matches.

Not bashing him, I think he’s been brilliant for us, just that the honeymoon period is over.
What has Yates done at this level or even recently for that matter? Nothing.

We've been crying out for quality in the final third all season, if Critch rated him at this level he'd of chucked him in.

We don't know what happens on the training ground, in Critch we trust.

I personally prefer Lavery & Madine, think Yates is a good league 1 striker or impact sub at this level.
 
2 examples in the 40+ games we've played this season. On fire!
Care to offer any ecamples of any other partnerships that have worked? Yates and Madine worked last season and this season is a step up and ir would be fair to say no paring or individual has been highly successful.
 
I agree with the sentiment of your posts Timperley but I disagree regarding Madine. Take him out and front to back we are a weaker unit. He's the classic player you see the benefits of when he is not playing. As for Jerry, he has clearly crossed a line somewhere for Critchley. The sign of a good manager is to bring that player back into the fold. Jerry is now part of our history and has lots to offer for the future, for us or for someone else. I really hope it's for us.
I needed to be more specific about Gaz. I’ve always posted that him and Jerry are such a dangerous partnership. I’m happy whenever i see them starting. It’s Gaz on his own that I don’t particularly like, and when it’s clearly not working in games, Critch has often been reluctant to move to plan B. I doubt Gaz enjoys being up there on his own. I also suspect that he prefers to be partnered with Jerry, who reads him better than Lavery.
 
What has Yates done at this level or even recently for that matter? Nothing.

We've been crying out for quality in the final third all season, if Critch rated him at this level he'd of chucked him in.

We don't know what happens on the training ground, in Critch we trust.

I personally prefer Lavery & Madine, think Yates is a good league 1 striker or impact sub at this level.

Oh dear ....

Hundreds of posts have been placed regarding the lacking of a midfield player that can actually get the ball forward to the strikers! Critch didn't fill this position during the January transfer window for some unknown reason.

If Jerry and Lavery don't get the ball it's impossible for them to score a goal isn't it? 🥺

Jerry should be starting every game and Lavery as sub.
 
What has Yates done at this level or even recently for that matter? Nothing.

We've been crying out for quality in the final third all season, if Critch rated him at this level he'd of chucked him in.

We don't know what happens on the training ground, in Critch we trust.

I personally prefer Lavery & Madine, think Yates is a good league 1 striker or impact sub at this level.
You say "in Critch we trust" but the rest of your post is just slating Yates. Seeing as Critch has given Yates plenty of starts this season I think it reasonable to say that Critch does trust him, it's you that doesn't. Makes you somewhat of a hypocrite. You also fail to realise as pointed out that players like Yates and Lavery require quality service. Something they've not been getting due to lack of creativity in the centre of the park.
 
There was rumours of someone in January coming in for him and he was up for going, don’t know if it’s true but something isn’t right. I don’t think the rotation helps him or Lavery and it’s especially frustrating when one of them has scored and played well and then is on the bench next game. We’ve needed Madine this season big-time but on his own isn’t great, as we weirdly tuck Bowler infield and higher to get close to him which means he has less space and width and is far less effective. QPR away 1st half and Knob End prime examples.

Maybe the O/P can tell us about the transfer stuff in January he knows that Jerry didn’t want to play yesterday.
 
Oh dear ....

Hundreds of posts have been placed regarding the lacking of a midfield player that can actually get the ball forward to the strikers! Critch didn't fill this position during the January transfer window for some unknown reason.

If Jerry and Lavery don't get the ball it's impossible for them to score a goal isn't it? 🥺

Jerry should be starting every game and Lavery as sub.
Why should Yates be starting ahead of Lavery? Stats say Lavery every time to date:
 

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I do, I know that no pro of Jerry’s calibre would ask for that.
I think your looking at this through tangerine tinted spectacles. Jerry has been bang average at best this season, I would argue often poor. His hold up play is dreadful, he is in the team to score goals which he has not done and never really looks like doing so. For me he is not a championship striker. He is great in league 1 and maybe that’s his level but he has a long way to go to be a good Championship striker. As for the game yesterday Jerry needed minutes to keep him ticking over for the games to come, no harm in that at all in my view.
 
He might realise that it's his job is to score goals, or then again maybe he can't cut in in the Championship much like Keigan Parker. Should have got rid last season when his stock was high.
 
It’s Sangare and he had a decent game

23 years old and out of contract in the summer, presumably available on a free and Critch interested in signing him.

Central midfielder, played a total of 2 league 1 games last season, so on the face of it not promising, but what his game like, is he what we need or just more of the same?
 
Let’s be honest, he looked better when playing in league one…it’s a tougher gig in the championship, madine is championship quality hence he’s in every game and rightly so..
 
23 years old and out of contract in the summer, presumably available on a free and Critch interested in signing him.

Central midfielder, played a total of 2 league 1 games last season, so on the face of it not promising, but what his game like, is he what we need or just more of the same?
Difficult to say after 1 game yesterday but he does put himself about and being a big lad he takes some knocking off the ball, showed some nice touches too. He’s worth trying a few more times in perhaps pre season friendlies, but if it turns out he doesn’t offer more than the current crop we have then it’s a case of thanks for your efforts.
 
A slap in the face to a class striker and a player who was so instrumental in getting us promoted. I have no idea what is going on in Critch’s head, but for me he’s managed the situation badly. You just don’t do this sort of thing to a player who has done so much since joining the club.

His focus on lumping it to a big man has meant that we have not made the most of the best all round striker we’ve had in a decade.

Some will point to us being safe and generally I agree, but I’d also argue that at times we’ve been very negative in our approach, particularly when we have been safe from relegation for a long time.

Some will also say today is game time for Jerry, but I’d argue that should certainly be in the first team.

Let’s be clear, we’ve seen the class Jerry has in the Championship. Can anyone remember when he last missed a sitter, I can’t. Let’s also be clear that we’d have seen Jerry in full flow had we set up differently at times.

I fear we’ll lose Jerry and personally I be royally peed off with Critch if that happens. The lad was loving being here, but you can see his confidence has been destroyed.

I’m a bit confused by Critch’s approach, bearing in mind his background at Liverpool. Personally, I think he’s still hunting for the way his team should play, but that’s part of gaining experience I suppose. The Championship requires a different approach, but class players should be playing. I do not see how Gaz gets a start every game and I don’t believe we need his physicality every match.

Big test for Critch next season, we’ll see just how good he is. He can start by being consistent after games, win, lose or draw. I found his chest pumping and love heart signs embarrassing at Blackburn, after a draw and when he did little after losing at Preston and other matches.

Not bashing him, I think he’s been brilliant for us, just that the honeymoon period is over.
Used as a training session for Jerry to get some game time in his legs, a professional approach not a slap in the face
 
Neil Critchley is paid to get results.

He picks a team that he thinks will get a result.

Timperley is seeking to create an issue that doesnt exist.
 
He's not getting a lot of game time and that's NC call ,why would he take it as a slap in the face ?? Agreed great last season ,this season not do good.The game in question will give him plenty of time on the pitch and give the manager opportunity to see him
No issues with this decision
 
He’s just not been very good lately. And critchley gets to see his attitude every single day, you don’t. I’m sure the videos of him out on the piss fighting with his top off in nightclubs doesn’t help him.
Do these videos exist ? I ain’t seen him fighting in nightclubs !

He comes across as a gentle soul does Jezza
No they don't exist, there is absolutely no video of Jerry Yates fighting pissed up. There is a picture of him with his top off in Manchester that preceded him becoming our top goalscorer the season it was taken, and our first player to score 20+ league goals in nearly 3 decades.

The other video was of this season where he was in Walkabout in Blackpool, a Blackpool fan requested Spirit in the Sky and recorded Yates's reaction which was to stand on his chair and he was told to get down by a bouncer.

So the claim there are videos of him fighting pissed up in nightclubs with his top off is a hyperbolic combination of two separate events. Probably being kind describing the fighting bit as hyperbolic actually, as its a complete fabrication.
 
It's barely a few games ago that Yates was starting regularly and Lavery was on the bench. Really don't think there's much between them. None are likely to be top end Championship strikers but are decent players who work hard for the team. Both would benefit from some creativity in the middle of the park. Happy with whichever one Critch picks but both of them need another striker alongside them.
 
Jerry along with a lot of players has made a big step up to the Championship, they are learning all the time, our strikers work there balls off and need better service, agree with 20s our centre midfield needs something else and so does Critch going for the likes of Brannigan and the Peterborough lad whose name escapes me, the latter now done his cruciate I read whilst on International duty, so maybe a lucky escape. I digress but we are work in progress, a couple of years out of receivership and we find ourselves half way up The Championship, we are doing just fine. I am excited for the years ahead watching the mighty grow after decades of neglect.
 
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Care to offer any ecamples of any other partnerships that have worked? Yates and Madine worked last season and this season is a step up and ir would be fair to say no paring or individual has been highly successful.
Fair enough assessment.

Though I would add that just because we don't have better alternatives doesn't preclude this one from having its issues.
 
What a load of bollocks, if he is told play for the U23 then he does, it is a job you know. He's not been great this year despite always being a hard worker, hopefully he bangs them in next season.
 
You say "in Critch we trust" but the rest of your post is just slating Yates. Seeing as Critch has given Yates plenty of starts this season I think it reasonable to say that Critch does trust him, it's you that doesn't. Makes you somewhat of a hypocrite. You also fail to realise as pointed out that players like Yates and Lavery require quality service. Something they've not been getting due to lack of creativity in the centre of the park.
In the last few months he's not had a sniff. Your argument is gone.
 
In the last few months he's not had a sniff. Your argument is gone.
Who's not had a sniff of what? Read enough of your posts since you joined at the end of last year where you pretty much just slate a lot of our players. Perhaps you could just return back to from wherever you came.
 
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This type of thing is so common. Strikers in particular go through hot and cold spells and that can be longer than a few games, sometimes it’s a season long malaise.

Look at Rashford at Man Utd. He’s gone from lethal and first choice, plus a must pick for England to a big part player totally off form. He’s not suddenly not good enough for the Prem of International duty, he’s off form and needs to play somehow to get that back.
 
I forecast 6 months ago that Yates would be far less effective at this level just as he also was when at Rotherham. A few know alls on here shot me down in flames when back then I suggested he would struggle to get even half the number of goals he got in league1.

Yates always gives 100% but his 100% is, as forecast, demonstrably a pretty limited contribution in terms of scoring or creating goals and overall talent. Effort on it`s own without a sufficiency of ability to go with it is obviously not enough.

He hasn`t scored a single goal this year. For Rotherham in 29 Championship appearances he managed just 1 goal and 0 assists and they then got rid. He got a 4 year contract here at the end of last season so we may be unable to do the same for a long time yet, unless a lower league club comes in with a modest bid for him.
 
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I forecast 6 months ago that Yates would be far less effective at this level just as he also was when at Rotherham. A few know alls on here shot me down in flames when back then I suggested he would struggle to get even half the number of goals he got in league1.

Yates always gives 100% but his 100% is as forecast demonstrably a pretty limited contribution in terms of scoring or creating goals and overall talent.

He hasn`t scored a single goal this year. For Rotherham in 29 Championship appearances he managed just 1 goal and 0 assists and they then got rid. He got a 4 year contract here at the end of last season so we may be unable to do the same for a long time yet, unless a lower league club comes in for him.
A know all posting a post about know alls. Do you not realise the irony of your post. Brilliant.
 
I forecast 6 months ago that Yates would be far less effective at this level just as he also was when at Rotherham. A few know alls on here shot me down in flames when back then I suggested he would struggle to get even half the number of goals he got in league1.

Yates always gives 100% but his 100% is, as forecast, demonstrably a pretty limited contribution in terms of scoring or creating goals and overall talent. Effort on it`s own without a sufficiency of ability to go with it is obviously not enough.

He hasn`t scored a single goal this year. For Rotherham in 29 Championship appearances he managed just 1 goal and 0 assists and they then got rid. He got a 4 year contract here at the end of last season so we may be unable to do the same for a long time yet, unless a lower league club comes in with a modest bid for him.
He creates nothing, really?

I suggest you watch games properly. Our wide midfield players are far more involved with him linking. Gaz is far more effective with Jerry alongside him.

Preston for Gaza’s goal and Stoke for Josh’s goal, both magical pieces of passing skill.
 
I forecast 6 months ago that Yates would be far less effective at this level just as he also was when at Rotherham. A few know alls on here shot me down in flames when back then I suggested he would struggle to get even half the number of goals he got in league1.

Yates always gives 100% but his 100% is, as forecast, demonstrably a pretty limited contribution in terms of scoring or creating goals and overall talent. Effort on it`s own without a sufficiency of ability to go with it is obviously not enough.

He hasn`t scored a single goal this year. For Rotherham in 29 Championship appearances he managed just 1 goal and 0 assists and they then got rid. He got a 4 year contract here at the end of last season so we may be unable to do the same for a long time yet, unless a lower league club comes in with a modest bid for him.
Remind me how we got 3 points at Stoke.
 
His first job as a striker is to score goals, his second is to provide assists for others to score. He has done far too little of either to justify his place in the team which is why now he is far from an automatic pick.

You don`t base judgement of any player on one game but on the whole season and the longer this season has gone on the less Yates has produced.
 
Who's not had a sniff of what? Read enough of your posts since you joined at the end of last year where you pretty much just slate a lot of our players. Perhaps you could just return back to from wherever you came.
Play time, what else could I be talking about, did you read the post or are you just hear to moan?

Wasn't slating Jerry either, I said he hasn't had much of an impact over the season and whenever he starts he doesn't do much, you can't disagree unless you don't attend the games. He was a beast in league 1 but I think that's his level. Lavery & Madine are more of a threat. Stats speak volumes.
 
Oh dear ....

Hundreds of posts have been placed regarding the lacking of a midfield player that can actually get the ball forward to the strikers! Critch didn't fill this position during the January transfer window for some unknown reason.

If Jerry and Lavery don't get the ball it's impossible for them to score a goal isn't it? 🥺

Jerry should be starting every game and Lavery as sub.
I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps you may prefer watching the cods?
 
I forecast 6 months ago that Yates would be far less effective at this level just as he also was when at Rotherham. A few know alls on here shot me down in flames when back then I suggested he would struggle to get even half the number of goals he got in league1.

Yates always gives 100% but his 100% is, as forecast, demonstrably a pretty limited contribution in terms of scoring or creating goals and overall talent. Effort on it`s own without a sufficiency of ability to go with it is obviously not enough.

He hasn`t scored a single goal this year. For Rotherham in 29 Championship appearances he managed just 1 goal and 0 assists and they then got rid. He got a 4 year contract here at the end of last season so we may be unable to do the same for a long time yet, unless a lower league club comes in with a modest bid for him.
If Jerry is here for 4 years as a squad player or as an adapted to the Championship main striker I will be a happy man.
 
Wasn't slating Jerry either,
Of course you were don't backtrack.

What has Yates done at this level or even recently for that matter? Nothing.

We've been crying out for quality in the final third all season, if Critch rated him at this level he'd of chucked him in.

We don't know what happens on the training ground, in Critch we trust.

I personally prefer Lavery & Madine, think Yates is a good league 1 striker or impact sub at this level.
Think that post of yours is pretty much slating him. Like I said your posting history shows you slate a lot of players. It's you that is here to just moan and have been doing so since you joined up less than four months ago.
 
If Jerry is here for 4 years as a squad player or as an adapted to the Championship main striker I will be a happy man.
I am always pleased to hear of others happiness and it`s a bonus to know how little it takes to make you happy. Unfortunately I need a lot more than Jerry Yates playing for Blackpool to make me happy but a goal scoring striker would certainly do it..
 
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