Port Vale v Blackpool Official Matchnight Thread 29.12.23

It's simply not the case is it? The two we had last season were worse, before we even bother to think back a bit, to Hendry etc. Weve currently got the best home form in the division. We've had loads that were worse.
I'm generally Mr Positive but I'm struggling to find a positive after the last 2 games.
If Critch stays, and I can't honestly see him going, then he needs to take a long hard look at himself. He is stubborn but he's not stupid so he needs to accept that something needs to change.
He's also got to hope the recruitment team have some decent reinforcements lined up.
 
We never used to be able to buy a win away under Billy Ayre and had great home form, but it was never due to the manager being deliberately obtusive in his selections and tactics nor was it that the players weren’t playing for their manager. It was because we just didn’t have the quality players, but we made the most of what we had and we battled. And the manager was honest with us.

Critchley has the players and he’s just giving us no chance game after game.
 
Agreed seems we have spoilt fans .. I remember worthington etc .. awful football. However I did have a certain expectation this season .. and so far we simply haven’t been good enough
We haven't been good enough and i questioned the wisdom of bringing him back at the time, it was never going to be straight forward for him to fit back in. But in difficult times it's important to be hnest and not just to vilify and only see the bad stuff and blame it all on one guy. You don't make progress through purely emotional knee jerk analysis. We have the best home form in the league! How the fuck is that happening with such a shit manager?! What's the answer? I don't know. I would have preferred Dobbie but it wasn't my decision or my money. The mix of players isn't right. Critchley is making mistakes too and he is repeating them every game. He hasn't tried anthing different away from home, really. the wing backs aren't good enough, so why stick with such a wing back dependent system? He deserves criticism.
 
You're consistently wrong.
He's not the worst, but he's as bad as all the others Sadler has appointed since he bought the club with the exception of McCarthy. Critchley is not a football league manager, he's a coach who needs to be bringing on your EPL players like he was before. He got us promoted but a lot of that was down to a very experienced assistant. You just have to sometimes say, :I got it wrong" and Sadler needs to be telling himself that because a loss on New Years day at home will be the end anyway.
 
I'm generally Mr Positive but I'm struggling to find a positive after the last 2 games.
If Critch stays, and I can't honestly see him going, then he needs to take a long hard look at himself. He is stubborn but he's not stupid so he needs to accept that something needs to change.
He's also got to hope the recruitment team have some decent reinforcements lined up.
I agree. things are not right.
 
We never used to be able to buy a win away under Billy Ayre and had great home form, but it was never due to the manager being deliberately obtusive in his selections and tactics nor was it that the players weren’t playing for their manager. It was because we just didn’t have the quality players, but we made the most of what we had and we battled. And the manager was honest with us.

Critchley has the players and he’s just giving us no chance game after game.
Like this , u must be sane age or nearly as me , loved King Billy
 
He's not the worst, but he's as bad as all the others Sadler has appointed since he bought the club with the exception of McCarthy. Critchley is not a football league manager, he's a coach who needs to be bringing on your EPL players like he was before. He got us promoted but a lot of that was down to a very experienced assistant. You just have to sometimes say, :I got it wrong" and Sadler needs to be telling himself that because a loss on New Years day at home will be the end anyway.
You have a memory like a sieve. His first two seasons were highly successful. Plus, we have the best home form in the division.
 
Right last score prediction... went for 0-3.... then changed it to 1-3.... 2-3.... now going for 3-3... what a finish we are in for lads 🤔
Q - Doctor, doctor - there's a Blackpool fan here showing worrying symptons of delerium. What should we do?

A - Obvious! Concede another goal - and then sack the manager ...
 
You have a memory like a sieve. His first two seasons were highly successful. Plus, we have the best home form in the division.
He was successful, in my opinion because he had 2 experienced coaches. The writing was on the wall for me towards the end of his second season, he had hit a wall and without help, which he hasn't got now he is struggling. He may have the best home form but he has the worst away form so they sort of equal each other out. It looks like the players hate his tactics, the supporters have turned on him and it can go one of 3 ways, it carries on like this, he sorts out the away form or we lose the home form, but how long do you give him? Give him to the end of the season and if it carries on or gets worse the damage will be greater. I don't think Sadler will get rid to save face but for me, he should if we do badly in the next 2 games.
 
Sam Ellis was my first manager

What Critchley is doing now with this formation and tactics is by far the most hideous thing I have ever seen and the least thing I can relate to out of all the previous Blackpool managers.
Ah, so you will have seen some garbage then. You'll have just missed Ball from memory, possibly Mullen and Carr, but you'll have seen the struggle at the bottom of Div3? Sam Ellis once said to me that the club was stopping the free parking on the Tangerine car park to ST holders as well as the match day programme in order to save money and stop the club going under - really crap days. So yeah, critch is operating within a totally different financial framework and a far better squad to those days, so I see your point.
 
Automatic promotion's looking a tall order.
i said a couple of weeks ago we could afford to lose two more games - weve lost them. im not even convinced at the moment we can make the playoffs, which is criminal cos i think critchley has one of the best squads in the league, he either cant motivate them or just doesnt know what to do with them.
 
Any fan that went to Burton and port vale away should be refunded by the players, 2 away trips just after Christmas for those 2 performances is unacceptable and since they have no bollocks on the pitch they should have some bollocks off it and refund every fan for both tickets. Spineless tvvats
I’ve been to both and it’s my birthday tomorrow too so I should get a double refund!
 
It was only 16 miles up the road for me tonight I just couldn’t bring myself to do it I knew we’d get beat, beaten not so badly but I just felt it. 3 shots on target I think two of them first half you just knew we’d fold after that first one went in
 
It was only 16 miles up the road for me tonight I just couldn’t bring myself to do it I knew we’d get beat, beaten not so badly but I just felt it. 3 shots on target I think two of them first half you just knew we’d fold after that first one went in
Predictably shite. There is nothing worse.
 
Ah, so you will have seen some garbage then. You'll have just missed Ball from memory, possibly Mullen and Carr, but you'll have seen the struggle at the bottom of Div3? Sam Ellis once said to me that the club was stopping the free parking on the Tangerine car park to ST holders as well as the match day programme in order to save money and stop the club going under - really crap days. So yeah, critch is operating within a totally different financial framework and a far better squad to those days, so I see your point.
Megson
 
''One of the best squads in the league'' yes retain possession and dominate the oposition, I dont think so 6/7 players are not good enough
to play the system he wants. This is becoming more and more apparent, Sadler must get the cheque book out or sack him.
 
Can you imagine what would have awaited the players in that dressing room tonight after that shit show?
If it results in Critches' departure - probably high-5s all-round, I would guess
He was successful, in my opinion because he had 2 experienced coaches. The writing was on the wall for me towards the end of his second season, he had hit a wall and without help, which he hasn't got now he is struggling. He may have the best home form but he has the worst away form so they sort of equal each other out. It looks like the players hate his tactics, the supporters have turned on him and it can go one of 3 ways, it carries on like this, he sorts out the away form or we lose the home form, but how long do you give him? Give him to the end of the season and if it carries on or gets worse the damage will be greater. I don't think Sadler will get rid to save face but for me, he should if we do badly in the next 2 games.
I can't help thinking, in terms of your assessment, you're being a little wide of the mark there. Basically, SS has been more than a little generous in the leeway he has shown Critch during his second spell in charge, and we have still yet to see signs of meaningful change or improvement out on the pitch. For the game against Port Vale spirits had clearly reached a new low and, as fans made their way from the ground shortly after the final whistle had been blown, you just got a distinct sense this was to be Critchley's final hurrah, or that the long-awaited death knell would soon be ringing out. Critchley has been granted a little more time than a great many had expected, and you sense now, his departure really can't come soon enough.
 
We have lost point to some really shit teams now and it’s not good enough.

Northampton, Cambridge, Burton, Port Vale, absolute garbage. We should be burying them with the squad we have.

I have supported Critchley this season but this is clearly not getting any better and maybe time for a change.
 
If it results in Critches' departure - probably high-5s all-round, I would guess

I can't help thinking, in terms of your assessment, you're being a little wide of the mark there. Basically, SS has been more than a little generous in the leeway he has shown Critch during his second spell in charge, and we have still yet to see signs of meaningful change or improvement out on the pitch. For the game against Port Vale spirits had clearly reached a new low and, as fans made their way from the ground shortly after the final whistle had been blown, you just got a distinct sense this was to be Critchley's final hurrah, or that the long-awaited death knell would soon be ringing out. Critchley has been granted a little more time than a great many had expected, and you sense now, his departure really can't come soon enough.
I hope you're right, I just think Sadler will stick his heels in.
 
Do the Brain's Trust on here still think we're being entitled for expecting us to perform better against Cambridge, Burton Albion and Port Vale?
I think there are supporters who think we should be beating 'teams like this' which is an entitled point of view.
We've been on the receiving end of such comments and it shows arrogance.
So yes, there are people who are entitled like little spoilt children not getting their own way.
 
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